Manami Numakura - Climber's High! · forum

Kyle73

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Kyle73 2017-04-26T13:25:24+00:00

Mun wrote:
bng here we come

are you sure you want "anime pussy" in the tags? I ain't no pussy. I will remove it when bns check :>

[Insane]
Where are your corners? Tfw can't tell if meme or part of the mod lmao
00:01:706 (1,2,3,4) - There's a drum pattern here that you initially map (with the triple followed by a slider 2 ticks later) as circle-slider, and it's then inverted as slider-circle despite being the same relative intensity within the patterns. Following what you establish first, 00:02:209 (3,4) - should be changed from slider-circle to circle-slider. I see what you mean but what I have still works fine imo, and I am following the drum here which is true, but at 00:02:544 - there is a distinct guitar sound and I think having a circle start here is better representation for drum + guitar.
00:05:393 (5,6) - Same thing I said on Kibb's Extra, 5 is on a really strong drum hit that's very different from the rest of the beats in this stream, and 6 is also different. A kickslider-jump would accurately depict this major intensity difference. Yeah but I feel like the stream overall better represents the drum roll here, also it keeps it pretty simple and clean which imo is great for an insane. A kickslider jump would be too abnormal in this map I think.
00:14:109 (2,3,1,2) - You establish pretty strong counterclockwise flow here, why do you contradict it in the last 2 notes of the jump section at 00:14:779 (1,2) - ? Are you emphasizing a change or a sound? Actually I had it inverted before but I've been told by many people that this pattern plays better lol, I see what you mean by flow though. I will probably look for more testplays and see which one fits best here.
01:24:667 (2,3,1,2) - This looks great visually, but visually representing a completely different rhythmic pattern in a very similar way that looks connected to the previous pattern is exactly how you make a pattern into a misread machine. Maybe that's what I wanted :eyes: but on a serious note, the NC is enough to distinguish the change up here from the previous pattern. But maybe spacing it out a bit to create a half-overlap between 01:24:835 (3,1) - or something, would fix the issue? Idk it seems fine to me but I will work on it.

Am I just tired or does this map really have that few errors? xd

beyond that it's difficult for me to find anything. The set is quite solid, I was pleasantly surprised. Can't wait to see this set in qualified ~~so i can farm top diff when it gets ranked~~!

Thanks so much for the mod!

- Frontier -

1,854 posts

Joined April 2014

- Frontier - 2017-04-29T05:18:32+00:00

q

[General]

Video offset in BetaStar's diff is different from the other diffs.
1. BetaStar's Diff: -366
2. Other diffs: -336
Tick out "Widescreen Support" in every diff except kibb's extra because your map has no sb.
Diff spread is kinda inconsistent. xP
BetaStar's diff should end at the same time as other diffs do

don't give me kd thanks
GL

Kyle73

356 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Kyle73 2017-04-29T15:05:04+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
q

[General]
Video offset in BetaStar's diff is different from the other diffs.
BetaStar's Diff: -366
Other diffs: -336
Tick out "Widescreen Support" in every diff except kibb's extra because your map has no sb.
Diff spread is kinda inconsistent. xP
BetaStar's diff should end at the same time as other diffs do
don't give me kd thanks
GL

Thanks for the help!

Sidetail

1,268 posts

Joined October 2012

Sidetail 2017-05-04T12:46:20+00:00

Mun wrote:
[BetaStar's Hard]
where is your top right corner? Not sure if that really matters.. xD
00:00:366 (1) - Mapping this sound with a single repeat slider and then mapping the same musical pattern 00:03:047 (1,2) - with separated sliders may create an unnecessary reading challenge, and has a higher object density than both difficulty levels that are higher than this. Just separated for consistency. I dont think this is particularly hard rhythm either.
00:19:974 (4,6,1) - Mapping hit circles on a certain sound and then proceeding to ignore said sound is not advisable. Fixed
00:29:862 (1,2,3) - I like this pattern a lot, but it looks like it's supposed to be making sequentially sharpening curves. However, 2 and 3 are the exact same curve rotated 30 degrees.
Maybe make 2 a slightly softer curve to make this a smooth progression? hopefully it's better now
00:35:226 (1) - This looks like it's supposed to be a blanket - if it is, it'd be best to make it more consistent. If not, perhaps change the curve or rotate it a bit to disassociate the sliderbody with the previous object. I like the current version :l
00:59:192 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Nothing is wrong here. Very cool pattern! Thanks! :>
01:03:215 (1,2) - Considering visual distance between 01:02:712 (4,5) - or the later 01:03:717 (3,4) - it would probably look best to move hit circle 2 out to emulate these. I am strongly following DS there and plays just fine :l

Thank you Mun!

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Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2017-05-22T06:18:40+00:00

@Sidetail: 00:32:544 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - shouldn't the rhythm be

? felt better when I tried it and sounds more accurate

have som

Sidetail

1,268 posts

Joined October 2012

Sidetail 2017-05-22T12:58:12+00:00

- Yoshimaro - wrote:

@Sidetail: 00:32:544 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - shouldn't the rhythm be

? felt better when I tried it and sounds more accurate hmm okay appplied.

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Winnie

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Joined November 2013

Winnie 2017-05-31T01:21:11+00:00

Hello from modding queue

[Kibb's Extra]

00:27:516 (2,3) - Stupid music creators forcing a 5/6 slider for all diffs naisu all I wanted to say really

[Insane]

00:08:745 (2,3,4,5,1) - I think you're adding a lot of emphasis on spacing here when it's not really that big of a factor yet. Having a lot left and right movements in such a short amount of time without really emphasizing much in the music is kind of crazy especially from (3)(4)(5)
00:10:254 (3,4,5) - Could be the same as above seems like you're trying really hard to map out this rotation
00:11:762 (4,1) - Could be a tad bit cleaner of a blanket
00:13:606 (1) - Furthest spacing out of all the previous ones you did especially for this sound in the music
00:26:176 (2,3) - This spacing doesn't make sense, not much in the music to state for this jump. It feels inconsistent with 00:24:667 (2,3) - where the jumps had a purpose because of the guitar strums
00:40:589 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Lots of copy and paste rhythms doesn't have much variation between them especially when 00:38:578 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - was mapped almost accordingly to vocals. So it'll be strange to just add more of that on the next portion of the map 3 times back to back. Just some random ass shit Ex: http://puu.sh/w66cM/809a1b5145.jpg
01:01:874 (1) - Definitely needs more spacing relatively too close and somewhat inconsistent with the others you did. Mostly with things like you did for vocal emphasis 01:01:203 (3,4) - it's strange to just randomly cut that spacing and make it smaller on a stronger beat
01:05:058 (2,3,4) - Little more spacing could make this part feel better because of how 01:04:723 (1,2) - is conjoined together
01:08:578 (6,1,2) - Very linear and feels somewhat strange to play considering all the patterns before this. Could've been a stack or some other form if you really wanted to map that double sound out. Plus it leaves no leg room to hit the stream and make it a strong stream
01:12:600 (1) - Ctrl+G feels really great here. One it creates bigger spacing compared to 01:10:421 (1) - and it emphasizes her vocals with the change in flow for both that and 01:13:271 (3) - as well as 01:13:941 (1) -
01:15:784 (3) - Stacking on (2) would be better. Would just be forced stack and wouldn't leave the same impact as 01:16:287 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -
01:24:835 (1) - Could be color haxed this way. Would rather just keep the other portion independent http://puu.sh/w66yG/da01d6812a.jpg

[Normal]

00:01:539 - I'd probably would want to put a note here creates a better sound palette then without one because it'll make 00:04:388 feel like they're different from one another. If both had the same thing but then one area has a beat while the other doesn't, it'll just be strange
00:08:243 (1) - I think you're oversimplifying these too much. Rhythm would be more accurate and it'll leave more impact as a strong part of the music http://puu.sh/w66JH/73b386dea1.jpg Plus I'm being lenient with 00:09:081 (3) - It could've been a 1/2 repeat
00:10:924 (1,2,3) - These I can agree because the guitar here is strung for a longer duration
00:20:310 (3,4) - Could be slightly blanketed better
00:40:254 (5,1) - Too simple of a rhythm, Could try a 1/2 slider on (5) like you previously do but moved back. Ex: http://puu.sh/w66Tz/f3f7f70dc1.jpg You decide

Should be ok. Don't really care if most of the editor isn't used while mapping. I just want to see it work

Kyle73

356 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Kyle73 2017-05-31T02:51:29+00:00

Kocari wrote:
Hello from modding queue

[Kibb's Extra]
00:27:516 (2,3) - Stupid music creators forcing a 5/6 slider for all diffs naisu all I wanted to say really

[Insane]
00:08:745 (2,3,4,5,1) - I think you're adding a lot of emphasis on spacing here when it's not really that big of a factor yet. Having a lot left and right movements in such a short amount of time without really emphasizing much in the music is kind of crazy especially from (3)(4)(5) Honestly I like how it plays out with the difference in guitar here, it feels nice imo but it does seem pretty intense rather early on, I will work on it
00:10:254 (3,4,5) - Could be the same as above seems like you're trying really hard to map out this rotation ^
00:11:762 (4,1) - Could be a tad bit cleaner of a blanket Fixed
00:13:606 (1) - Furthest spacing out of all the previous ones you did especially for this sound in the music Fits pretty well into the jump pattern imo, it's a good emphasis here I think
00:26:176 (2,3) - This spacing doesn't make sense, not much in the music to state for this jump. It feels inconsistent with 00:24:667 (2,3) - where the jumps had a purpose because of the guitar strums Fixed
00:40:589 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Lots of copy and paste rhythms doesn't have much variation between them especially when 00:38:578 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - was mapped almost accordingly to vocals. So it'll be strange to just add more of that on the next portion of the map 3 times back to back. Just some random ass shit Ex: http://puu.sh/w66cM/809a1b5145.jpg I actually feel as though it's fine as the motion is more distinct and the combo colors add in that little extra effect to it.
01:01:874 (1) - Definitely needs more spacing relatively too close and somewhat inconsistent with the others you did. Mostly with things like you did for vocal emphasis 01:01:203 (3,4) - it's strange to just randomly cut that spacing and make it smaller on a stronger beat Alright I hear enough about this one so I'mma change it up (finally).
01:05:058 (2,3,4) - Little more spacing could make this part feel better because of how 01:04:723 (1,2) - is conjoined together I really like the way it's set up right now as it's like a clear "slowdown" and it fills in the empty space for the next stronger jump section.
01:08:578 (6,1,2) - Very linear and feels somewhat strange to play considering all the patterns before this. Could've been a stack or some other form if you really wanted to map that double sound out. Plus it leaves no leg room to hit the stream and make it a strong stream Hmm I tried to readjust the linear feel to something more equal to the rest of section's feel, and yeah I guess I should make a stack. The stack does the job nicely
01:12:600 (1) - Ctrl+G feels really great here. One it creates bigger spacing compared to 01:10:421 (1) - and it emphasizes her vocals with the change in flow for both that and 01:13:271 (3) - as well as 01:13:941 (1) - Oh damn I really like that emphasis actually, thank you
01:15:784 (3) - Stacking on (2) would be better. Would just be forced stack and wouldn't leave the same impact as 01:16:287 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Very true, fixed
01:24:835 (1) - Could be color haxed this way. Would rather just keep the other portion independent http://puu.sh/w66yG/da01d6812a.jpg I don't know what that is LOL. I will ask Kibb or something later :X

[Normal]
[notice]00:01:539 - I'd probably would want to put a note here creates a better sound palette then without one because it'll make 00:04:388 feel like they're different from one another. If both had the same thing but then one area has a beat while the other doesn't, it'll just be strange Added
00:08:243 (1) - I think you're oversimplifying these too much. Rhythm would be more accurate and it'll leave more impact as a strong part of the music http://puu.sh/w66JH/73b386dea1.jpg Plus I'm being lenient with 00:09:081 (3) - It could've been a 1/2 repeat
00:10:924 (1,2,3) - These I can agree because the guitar here is strung for a longer duration Yeah but the problem is I wonder if the sudden change up would be too difficult for newer players to follow, but I think for now I will apply the above mod. It shouldn't be too difficult lol.
00:20:310 (3,4) - Could be slightly blanketed better Fixed
00:40:254 (5,1) - Too simple of a rhythm, Could try a 1/2 slider on (5) like you previously do but moved back. Ex: http://puu.sh/w66Tz/f3f7f70dc1.jpg You decide Changed

Should be ok. Don't really care if most of the editor isn't used while mapping. I just want to see it work Assuming it works LOL

Thank you so much for the mod Kocari ^^!!

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2017-06-02T02:31:10+00:00

tags
5/4 slider
round anime girl nose

ex ex
01:10:086 (1,2) - 1/4 sliders covering 1/2 sounds already suck, but doing so in the part of the chorus that stops intensity is like ignoring the song as much as possible lol. use rhythms that reflect song pls ty

insane
00:05:476 (6,1) - space these visually the same as the rest of the stream. sv change means numbers in hte top right aren't accurate
01:24:835 (1,2) - 01:25:338 (3,1) - be consistent with your overlapping or stacking for these 1/1 gaps. so weird to use 2 different ideas for the same repeated sounds

hard
video missing
00:01:203 (2,3,1) - spaced 1/4 after sliderends isn't something you should be doing on a hard, especially when it's the same visual sapcing as 1/2. either overlap stuff or do uhsomethingelse
00:16:287 (1,2) - slightly larger spacing >>>>
00:21:148 (6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - did you like accidentally lower distance snap from 1.4 to 1.3 or something? song repeats the same thing and you lowered spacing by a notch lol
00:38:410 (3) - 00:49:639 (4) - if you ever have a 1/2 slider followed by a 1/1 gap, there's a good chance you've got sliderend on the stronger sound zzz. using 2 circles in both of htese cases = ideal
01:03:215 (1,2) - what mun said tbh. can still follow distance snap without having it look so out of place ex
01:09:416 (5,6,7,8,9,1) - automatic stacking is destroying your pattern stuff lol. enable stacking and try moving stuff to their intended positions

nomral
01:04:555 (5,1) - swap newcombos for reasons you already know

easy
00:17:293 (2,3) - try arranging things so that 3's head is closer to 2 than its tail. makes it seem like the tail is the next object to click with this kind of arrangement. like

call me back if kibb changes his thing!!

Sidetail

1,268 posts

Joined October 2012

Sidetail 2017-06-02T02:33:35+00:00

pish didnt say anything about tags :thinking:

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2017-06-02T02:41:14+00:00

the first line of the post tho

Sidetail

1,268 posts

Joined October 2012

Sidetail 2017-06-02T02:49:36+00:00

oh oop

code

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TitleUnicode:Climber's High!
Artist:Manami Numakura
ArtistUnicode:沼倉愛美
Creator:Kyle73
Version:Sidetail's Hard
Source:風夏
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(fixed everything including video)

pishifat wrote:
round anime girl nose

not sure if kyle can fix that
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Kyle73

356 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Kyle73 2017-06-02T02:53:39+00:00

pishifat wrote:
tags i don't see a problem
5/4 slider Drummer's High
round anime girl nose Kibb chose the picture.

insane
00:05:476 (6,1) - space these visually the same as the rest of the stream. sv change means numbers in hte top right aren't accurate How did I not notice this rofl
01:24:835 (1,2) - 01:25:338 (3,1) - be consistent with your overlapping or stacking for these 1/1 gaps. so weird to use 2 different ideas for the same repeated sounds
I will just make it all stacked here then

nomral
01:04:555 (5,1) - swap newcombos for reasons you already know
Changed

easy
00:17:293 (2,3) - try arranging things so that 3's head is closer to 2 than its tail. makes it seem like the tail is the next object to click with this kind of arrangement. like
Fixed

call me back if kibb changes his thing!!

Thanks for the mod pishi :d!

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-06-02T11:57:46+00:00

lol to be completely honest i don't really feel there is anything wrong with how i did it.
nevertheless, fixed <3

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Kyle73

356 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Kyle73 2017-06-02T12:59:07+00:00

All updated, thanks Kibb and Sidetail :>

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-06-03T14:27:26+00:00

hello!
[General]
get rid of anime from tags as well, it gets covered already by genre

[Easy]
00:04:555 (2) - drum sounds a lot more apparent at 00:04:723 - the red tick is more of a lead in triplet, try have the slider start there instead
00:59:192 - rhythm gets a bit messy in the kiai as its a bit ambiguous as to what ur following. it seems to be following drums as the snares are prioritised over vocals like 00:59:695 - then from 01:01:203 - onwards u kinda just switch over to vocals without much change in the music. there are a few rhythms that could work to follow instruments while still giving emphasis to offbeats eg. http://puu.sh/w9xAr/6aad91e5a2.jpg

01:11:427 (4,5) - transition could also be a bit nicer here http://puu.sh/w9xSl/26d4877c58.jpg
01:24:835 (4,5,6) - should probably avoid these patterns too, as the flow could be misinterpreted as 4 -> 6

[Normal]
01:08:745 (1,5) - makes more sense to have the ncs swapped around here
01:11:259 (1) - then this nc isn't needed

[Sidetail's Hard]
why's od so hiiiiigh. 6 would be more appropriate
00:01:203 (2,3,1) - hm would be nice if you had the spacings more consistent here, using http://puu.sh/w9BYP/fc537eef1f.jpg as a reference in the top right corner
00:17:963 (2,3,4,5) - visual spacing, cos of the stack this looks much closer than you think http://puu.sh/w9C0l/72c2c03332.jpg
00:19:974 (4,5,6) - ee using a copy of 00:19:136 (1,2,3) - would look much nicer here

pishifat wrote:
00:21:148 (6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - did you like accidentally lower distance snap from 1.4 to 1.3 or something? song repeats the same thing and you lowered spacing by a notch lol

its 1.5 now :thinking: the sections are purely identical intensity wise so try to keep it at 1.4x so the spacing changes at 00:27:181 - are actually meaningful

00:43:103 - mapping the triplet in the music here would be a nice touch, considering you used a decent amount of triplets for the section before 00:16:287 - https://puu.sh/w9C87/d571e69b58.jpg
00:46:622 (4) - most of ur rhythms follow vocals so having the vocal on the slider end here 00:46:790 - isnt that great. could have 00:46:287 (3) - as a 1/1 to map from 00:46:790 - onward
01:02:544 (3,4) - these sliders 00:59:192 (1,4,1,4,5) - give off the impression of emphasising the vocals with sliders so i kinda expected one here too 01:02:544
01:10:924 (5) - strong sound on slider end + the double vocal

could try a rhythm like http://puu.sh/w9CEd/f62d3c4a49.jpg that also emphasises the finish a bit better
01:12:265 (4) - think the clap is misplaced here
01:16:958 (2,3) - the finishes end up on weird beats here 01:16:958 - 01:17:460 - when u originally had sliders representing them 01:15:449 (1,3,5) . u could probably just ctrl g the rhythm here to keep the finishes on clickable objects

[Insane]
00:19:807 (3) - u did a pretty good job at avoiding any filler rhythms except for here. has neither vocal/drum so u could try making 00:19:472 (2) - a 1/1, or stick with patterns similar to 00:21:818 (1,2,3) - 00:24:500 (1,2,3)
00:49:639 (4,1) - 00:52:321 (4,1) - hm personally i find stacking these snares a bit underwhelming
00:53:662 (6,7,1) - angle is quite wide here which doesn't really work well directly after sharp stuff 00:53:495 (5,6,7)

[Kibb's Extra]
take a look at all those previous mods pls

00:49:974 (3) - idk about putting spacing emphasis on this lol, also ends on the snare + vocal z
00:52:488 (4,5) - ^
01:16:120 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - yikes why organise stuff in 4's when the music works in 3's

call me (or pishi) back

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2017-06-03T14:51:45+00:00

00:11:762 (1,2,3) - i don't really get whats wrong here

00:18:466 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - strong drum section tho so i use more circles
00:21:818 (1,2,3) - i think it is fairly intense tho, also the contrast is better if its a bigger jump

01:19:472 (1) - nc is necessary here imo

00:11:762 (1,3) - prefer not to overlap like that
00:33:131 (4,5) - nah im consistent with these

00:05:393 (5,6) - nah im not really focusing on these
01:02:544 (3) - i prefer to keep this slider structure going
01:17:460 (1,3) - this one has a slider in between

ya everything else was fixed more or less

Pentori wrote:
hello!

[Kibb's Extra]
take a look at all those previous mods pls
00:49:974 (3) - idk about putting spacing emphasis on this lol, also ends on the snare + vocal z
00:52:488 (4,5) - ^
01:16:120 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - yikes why organise stuff in 4's when the music works in 3's i think i was following vocals o-o

call me (or pishi) back

rest fixed

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Last edited by Kibbleru 2017-06-06T11:10:00+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kyle73

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Kyle73 2017-06-03T17:09:48+00:00

Pentori wrote:
hello!
[General]
get rid of anime from tags as well, it gets covered already by genre Oops

[Easy]
00:04:555 (2) - drum sounds a lot more apparent at 00:04:723 - the red tick is more of a lead in triplet, try have the slider start there instead
I think that having the slider on the red tick is appropriate enough because the drum sound clearly starts there. There's a clear division between this section and the previous one (guitar and drums) this way so imo it's fine.
00:59:192 - rhythm gets a bit messy in the kiai as its a bit ambiguous as to what ur following. it seems to be following drums as the snares are prioritised over vocals like 00:59:695 - then from 01:01:203 - onwards u kinda just switch over to vocals without much change in the music. there are a few rhythms that could work to follow instruments while still giving emphasis to offbeats eg. http://puu.sh/w9xAr/6aad91e5a2.jpg The vocals are very emphasized so I think it's very justifiable to put emphasis on the vocals instead.

01:11:427 (4,5) - transition could also be a bit nicer here http://puu.sh/w9xSl/26d4877c58.jpg The transition leads to following vocals so it's fine as is imo.
01:24:835 (4,5,6) - should probably avoid these patterns too, as the flow could be misinterpreted as 4 -> 6 Oh, changed

[Normal]
01:08:745 (1,5) - makes more sense to have the ncs swapped around here Swapped NC
01:11:259 (1) - then this nc isn't needed Removed :X

[Insane]
00:19:807 (3) - u did a pretty good job at avoiding any filler rhythms except for here. has neither vocal/drum so u could try making 00:19:472 (2) - a 1/1, or stick with patterns similar to 00:21:818 (1,2,3) - 00:24:500 (1,2,3) Fixed
00:49:639 (4,1) - 00:52:321 (4,1) - hm personally i find stacking these snares a bit underwhelming Imo this representation of the snares is fine 'cause the stacking differentiates it from the rest of the section here. Showing a difference therefore implementing enough emphasis.
00:53:662 (6,7,1) - angle is quite wide here which doesn't really work well directly after sharp stuff 00:53:495 (5,6,7) Ok changed

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Thanks for the mod :d!!

Sidetail

1,268 posts

Joined October 2012

Sidetail 2017-06-03T19:10:46+00:00

Pentori wrote:
hello!

[Sidetail's Hard]
why's od so hiiiiigh. 6 would be more appropriate fixed.
00:01:203 (2,3,1) - hm would be nice if you had the spacings more consistent here, using http://puu.sh/w9BYP/fc537eef1f.jpg as a reference in the top right corner fixed.
00:17:963 (2,3,4,5) - visual spacing, cos of the stack this looks much closer than you think http://puu.sh/w9C0l/72c2c03332.jpg fixed.
00:19:974 (4,5,6) - ee using a copy of 00:19:136 (1,2,3) - would look much nicer here fixed.

pishifat wrote:
00:21:148 (6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - did you like accidentally lower distance snap from 1.4 to 1.3 or something? song repeats the same thing and you lowered spacing by a notch lol
its 1.5 now :thinking: the sections are purely identical intensity wise so try to keep it at 1.4x so the spacing changes at 00:27:181 - are actually meaningful fixed.

00:43:103 - mapping the triplet in the music here would be a nice touch, considering you used a decent amount of triplets for the section before 00:16:287 - https://puu.sh/w9C87/d571e69b58.jpg fixed.
00:46:622 (4) - most of ur rhythms follow vocals so having the vocal on the slider end here 00:46:790 - isnt that great. could have 00:46:287 (3) - as a 1/1 to map from 00:46:790 - onward I currently think a place where i do sliderend on vocal isnt very strong compared to objects after it and also that would make 00:47:963 (3,4,5,6) - way too long and would feel bit uncomfortable to play.
01:02:544 (3,4) - these sliders 00:59:192 (1,4,1,4,5) - give off the impression of emphasising the vocals with sliders so i kinda expected one here too 01:02:544 fixed.
01:10:924 (5) - strong sound on slider end + the double vocal could try a rhythm like http://puu.sh/w9CEd/f62d3c4a49.jpg that also emphasises the finish a bit better fixed.
01:12:265 (4) - think the clap is misplaced here fixed.
01:16:958 (2,3) - the finishes end up on weird beats here 01:16:958 - 01:17:460 - when u originally had sliders representing them 01:15:449 (1,3,5) . u could probably just ctrl g the rhythm here to keep the finishes on clickable objects fixed.

the perks of mapping my first hard diff + high bpm.. rip
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garbo

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ok back to sleep (¦3ꇤ[▓▓]

Kyle73

356 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Kyle73 2017-06-03T19:29:56+00:00

All updated thanks guys :>

Pentori

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Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-06-04T13:56:23+00:00

Kyle73 wrote:
Pentori wrote:
[Easy]
00:59:192 - rhythm gets a bit messy in the kiai as its a bit ambiguous as to what ur following. it seems to be following drums as the snares are prioritised over vocals like 00:59:695 - then from 01:01:203 - onwards u kinda just switch over to vocals without much change in the music. there are a few rhythms that could work to follow instruments while still giving emphasis to offbeats eg. http://puu.sh/w9xAr/6aad91e5a2.jpg The vocals are very emphasized so I think it's very justifiable to put emphasis on the vocals instead.

01:11:427 (4,5) - transition could also be a bit nicer here http://puu.sh/w9xSl/26d4877c58.jpg The transition leads to following vocals so it's fine as is imo.

the problem is that you are following a certain track for one measure, then switch to another track in the next measure while the music remains the same. the vocals on 00:59:528 - 00:59:863 - 01:00:198 - 01:00:533 - 01:00:868 - are also there but get skipped for instruments

right your rhythms are basically
00:59:192 (1,2) - instruments
01:00:701 (3,4,1,2) - vocals
01:03:215 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - instruments
01:11:427 (4,5) - vocal

and it becomes unclear as to what ur actually following. a rhythm that sticks with the same track would be more appropriate

Kyle73

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Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Kyle73 2017-06-04T16:36:17+00:00

Pentori wrote:
the problem is that you are following a certain track for one measure, then switch to another track in the next measure while the music remains the same. the vocals on 00:59:528 - 00:59:863 - 01:00:198 - 01:00:533 - 01:00:868 - are also there but get skipped for instruments

right your rhythms are basically
00:59:192 (1,2) - instruments
01:00:701 (3,4,1,2) - vocals
01:03:215 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - instruments
01:11:427 (4,5) - vocal

and it becomes unclear as to what ur actually following. a rhythm that sticks with the same track would be more appropriate

Fair enough, applied all changes but for 01:12:097 (5) - I opted for a 1/2 slider instead of a circle to help with polarity.

Pentori

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Pentori 2017-06-05T02:36:23+00:00