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Last I heard it was my blog thread not yours. If you want one make your own. I'm OK if you want to teach me things like informal verb conjugation, but you''ll actually have to explain it so I can learn, rather than just stating some abstract sentences, or complain that I'm not learning the way you think I should.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Are you gonna learn normal conjugation
Im here to stay
I dunno man, following the conjugation rule i used to right iku's past as iita.
Seems useful to know its irregular in that aspect
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Last I heard it was my blog thread not yours. If you want one make your own. I'm OK if you want to teach me things like informal verb conjugation, but you''ll actually have to explain it so I can learn, rather than just stating some abstract sentences, or complain that I'm not learning the way you think I should.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Are you gonna learn normal conjugation
Im here to stay
I dunno man, following the conjugation rule i used to right iku's past as iita.
Seems useful to know its irregular in that aspect
You should already know the present standard tense of every verb because you have to use that to convert it to polite
Here is some list I made of an example verb with every possible ending.
食べる (Ends in -ru but is ichidan or as they would call it -ru)
In order to make ichidan verbs past, change the last る to た. In order to make them negative, change it to ない. Since negative verbs are all adjectives, it can be further conjugated like an adjective at this point. Adjectives change い to かった for the past tense so therefore the negative past of an ichidan verb will end with なかった。食べる -> 食べなかった
In order to make BOTH potential and passive form for ichidan verbs, replace the る with られる。食べられる
In order to make it causative, replace it with させる。食べさせる
In order to make te form, replace it with て。食べて
In order to make -tara and -tari, go to past tense and just add in that sound. 食べたら、食べたり
In order to make imperative, replace る with ろ。食べろ
In order to make renyoukei form (or as they would call it masu stem [not like that's the only use of this stem but they call it that because that's all beginners use it for]) just remove the る. 食べ
At this point I would like to note that when you make verbs like 食べられる (Let's assume passive so "to be eaten") this verb is ANOTHER ichidan verb in its entirety. If you want to make it negative, replace る with ない just like you would any other ichidan verb.
帰る (Ends in -ru but is godan or as they would call it -u)
孕む
呼ぶ
泳ぐ
打つ
死ぬ
聞く
洗う
濡らす
If you look closely at the word godan, you'll realise the go stands for 5. This is because there are 5 groups of endings for them.
く
ぐ
う、つ、る
ぬ、む、ぶ
す
Each one of these groups will have the same conjugation/sound change pattern.
For past tense the sound change goes like this:
く -> いた. 聞いた
ぐ -> いだ. 泳いだ
う、つ、る -> った. 洗った、打った、帰った
ぬ、む、ぶ -> んだ. 死んだ、孕んだ、呼んだ
す -> した. 濡らした
To get Te form for a godan verb, just use past tense and replace the -a sound with -e. So all the ta's will become te's. (Or you can learn te form and make past tense by converting all the -e's to -a's.)
In order to make negative godan verbs, change the last syllable to the -a sound equivalent and add nai.
聞かない
泳がない
洗わない、打たない 帰らない (NOTE HERE: For verbs that end in う you change the vowel toわ. For verbs that end in つ you change it to た)
死なない、孕まない、呼ばない
濡らさない
Negative past tense is handled just like past tense adjectives. Isn't that handy?
In order to make potential form, change the -u sound to it's -e equivalent and add reru.
聞ける
泳げる
洗える、打てる、帰れる
死ねる、孕める、呼べる、
濡らせる
NOTE HERE: All these sounds end in the -eru sound that you learned ichidan verbs tend to end in! That means whenever you make a godan verb into potential form, this potential form is an ichidan verb when referring to later or additional conjugations.
In order to make passive form change the -u sound to -a and add reru.
聞かれる
泳がれる
洗われる、打たれる,帰られる
死なれる、孕まれる、呼ばれる
濡らされる
Tara and tari work the same as before where you go to past tense and add the sound.
Imperative form works by changing the final -u sound to -e
聞け
泳げ
洗え、打て、帰れ
死ね、孕め、呼べ
濡らせ
The renyoukei stem is formed by chaing the final -u sound to -i
聞き
泳ぎ
洗い、打ち、帰り
死に、孕み、呼び
濡らし
Sometimes this forms nouns from the verbs!
I'll finish this after my project is done. Posting not to lose it.
I remember trying to learn conversions and that was a fucking hell
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I remember trying to learn conversions and that was a fucking hell
Slur your words and drop particles
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I'll review this when I have time.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
I'll finish this after my project is done. Posting not to lose it.
What did he mean by this.Foxtrot wrote:
I remember trying to learn conversions and that was a fucking hell
I think the more accurate term I was looking for was conjugations. There are simple ones, like "-て" for U-verbs (which come in different groups since U-verbs can end in different -te forms). These conjugations are used when you want to describe an action, request an action, or forbid one. Now, the complicated thing that Khelly was talking about is the crazy amount of conjugations. I only learned present and past tense at school and I sure remember the struggle.B1rd wrote:
What did he mean by this.Foxtrot wrote:
I remember trying to learn conversions and that was a fucking hell
I prefer the term godan verb since it has 5 different groups of te endings; that's why its called go. Imo there aren't that many conjugations in the grand scheme of things; as long as you at least try to write then you'll "memorise" them all fairly quickly.
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5/5 hours done.
I remember doing て forms and stuff, it's been a while so I'll need some material to concrete my memory.
I've been reading though, apparently you need to study a lot more than 5 hours a week to learn the thing in a timely manner. Wish I could just pull motivation out of my arse like some people can.
I remember doing て forms and stuff, it's been a while so I'll need some material to concrete my memory.
I've been reading though, apparently you need to study a lot more than 5 hours a week to learn the thing in a timely manner. Wish I could just pull motivation out of my arse like some people can.
You can repeat the te form list i gave you as a mneumomic for godan verbs
It's fairly effective
くいて、ぐいで、うつるって、ぬむぶんで、すして
It's fairly effective
くいて、ぐいで、うつるって、ぬむぶんで、すして
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Lol, saying taberareru just seems silly.
It seems like good information, but I think it will take me some time and study to understand all of the complicated verb conjugations.
It seems like good information, but I think it will take me some time and study to understand all of the complicated verb conjugations.
The motivation comes from the enthusiasm of being able to read raws before translations come out.B1rd wrote:
Wish I could just pull motivation out of my arse like some people can.
Say the verb 現れる 5 times fast. (あらわれる)B1rd wrote:
Lol, saying taberareru just seems silly.
It seems like good information, but I think it will take me some time and study to understand all of the complicated verb conjugations.
My first tongue twister (But only if you pronounce the R's correctly with your tongue hitting the roof of your mouth)
Jesus christ b1rd just be happy that Khel is willing to give you good help on the subject
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So it's Monday and once again I'm tired af, gonna skip it again.
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So it's Monday and once again I'm tired af, gonna skip it again.
Rip you
It begins
Do you have anybody to practice Japanese with? For me, the best way to learn it was to practice it with my classmates and reading (like Khelly suggested).
Anime is also a good way to learn the language
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1/5 h
Well I allowed myself two days off a week so I may as well have them when I'm tired (as opposed to my other two states, lethargic and asleep).Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Rip youB1rd wrote:
So it's Monday and once again I'm tired af, gonna skip it again.
It begins
Well I'm not exactly at the stage where I can have in depths conversations, not sure how taking turns saying KORE WA SUMISU SAN NO PENSHIRU is gonna be that beneficial as opposed to just writing.Foxtrot wrote:
Do you have anybody to practice Japanese with? For me, the best way to learn it was to practice it with my classmates and reading (like Khelly suggested).
Yeah, I forgot to mention that writing also helps but obviously that's a given.
If it were me, and was me, there wouldn't be any days off from jp a week. A "day off" is simply having pure fun with jp by writing random useless shit, browsing nico nico, and playing dumb sprite games in jp. No hardcore studying.
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issei no sei
Na kumikono itori
bokurawa
If i posted the lyrics right
Na kumikono itori
bokurawa
If i posted the lyrics right
Actually outline more b1rd
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What was that
B1rd wrote:
What was that
Don't just say 3/5; say WHAT you did and WHAT you learned
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Well, last lesson was about prepositions and the particle が and や, for example テーブル の うえ に しんぶん や はな が あります。
Soon I'll look at learning verb conjugations and getting a kanji textbook to study.
Soon I'll look at learning verb conjugations and getting a kanji textbook to study.
Imo at that point it's very useful to start using simple kanji like
上、新聞、花
In the sentences you see so you can start linking kanji to words
You don't need all the readings, just at least one to start
In this case its kun for he first and last and on for the middle two
If you need a kun for shinbun then two words to learn is
新しい あたらしい new
聞く きく hear/listen/ask
Kanji also makes it incredibly easy to find spaces between words. If it's 100% kana it gets a bit hard at times
上、新聞、花
In the sentences you see so you can start linking kanji to words
You don't need all the readings, just at least one to start
In this case its kun for he first and last and on for the middle two
If you need a kun for shinbun then two words to learn is
新しい あたらしい new
聞く きく hear/listen/ask
Kanji also makes it incredibly easy to find spaces between words. If it's 100% kana it gets a bit hard at times
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I've previously learnt about 50 kanji, I know the ones for ue, shita, naka, the days of the week, kikimasu, kakimasu, tabemasu, etc. I guess I might try to implement kanji into my writing and look up the kanji for words I'm using, as well as get a textbook and do a more methodical study of them.
When you write kanji, stroke order is important! but it does not have to be memorised on some large scale basis. Once you know stroke order for a handful of kanji you'll automatically know the pattern for many many subsequent kanji and be able to break them down into their constituent parts.
For example:聞く is just writing 門 then 耳
Alternative example: 魔 looks pretty complicated right? Well I cant think of an example for the top outerpart right now but following that it's just 木 twice then 鬼. To break down oni, after the little tick at the top the big fat part is just written like 田 and the legs like in 見. Then the thing ontop of that right leg is ム which you'll notice is katakana for mu.
For example:聞く is just writing 門 then 耳
Alternative example: 魔 looks pretty complicated right? Well I cant think of an example for the top outerpart right now but following that it's just 木 twice then 鬼. To break down oni, after the little tick at the top the big fat part is just written like 田 and the legs like in 見. Then the thing ontop of that right leg is ム which you'll notice is katakana for mu.
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4/5; more of same + vocab; did an all nighter so missed an hour, finish on Sunday
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So in my book I've done yuubinkyouku wa ano biru no naka desu, would something like sumisu-san wa niwa desu also be correct?
So in my book I've done yuubinkyouku wa ano biru no naka desu, would something like sumisu-san wa niwa desu also be correct?
Ever had a convo with an actual japanese person or just someone who is fluent? I still feel like this is one of the best and "healthiest" methods of practice. Just wondering.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
If it were me, and was me, there wouldn't be any days off from jp a week. A "day off" is simply having pure fun with jp by writing random useless shit, browsing nico nico, and playing dumb sprite games in jp. No hardcore studying.
BGglass a lot. Cool fucking guy. He knew lots of English and was 40 years old too.Comfy Slippers wrote:
Ever had a convo with an actual japanese person or just someone who is fluent? I still feel like this is one of the best and "healthiest" methods of practice. Just wondering.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
If it were me, and was me, there wouldn't be any days off from jp a week. A "day off" is simply having pure fun with jp by writing random useless shit, browsing nico nico, and playing dumb sprite games in jp. No hardcore studying.
The old japanese lady whose last name was 小林
My mate who lived in Austrailia as a JP person who invited me to lots of weird fucking skype groups where I had to read H-doujin outloud.
Start typing like this!B1rd wrote:
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So in my book I've done yuubinkyouku wa ano biru no naka desu, would something like sumisu-san wa niwa desu also be correct?
郵便局はあのビルの中です。スミスさんは庭です。 Or did you want to write はにはです。in which case I'm gonna have to say no.
Yeah I think it's fine. Although I'd probably prefer to use にある and にいる instead of just です. /shrug
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What are you studying this week?
johnmedina999 wrote:
What are you studying this week?
Exactly
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can't be bothered writing detailed reports at this current time.
can't be bothered writing detailed reports at this current time.
If you ever feel like practicing writing to someone in Japanese feel free to do so with me. I only know the basics, but it'd be a good practice. Or write to Khelly
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3/5. Currently about 100 pages into my exercise book "Japanese for Busy People". I'll probably order volume two and a kanji book sometime soon.
I'll write some more tomorrow.
Thanks. Once I gain some basic competency I'll look into writing/talking with people, as well as probably paying for an online tutor. Though I think I'm gonna focus on the written aspect.Foxtrot wrote:
If you ever feel like practicing writing to someone in Japanese feel free to do so with me. I only know the basics, but it'd be a good practice. Or write to Khelly
I'll write some more tomorrow.
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4/5. Spent the day revising kana stroke order, vocabulary, and numbers.
Just put myself in debt for the next two decades by buying some new textnooks: Genki 1 and 2 + workbooks, The Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course: A Step-by-Step Guide to Mastering 2300 Characters, and A Guide to Japanese Grammar
Just put myself in debt for the next two decades by buying some new textnooks: Genki 1 and 2 + workbooks, The Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course: A Step-by-Step Guide to Mastering 2300 Characters, and A Guide to Japanese Grammar
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5/5
about 100 pages in and one exercise book filled in.
about 100 pages in and one exercise book filled in.
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1/5
dam, going strong!
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sorta
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2/5
B1rd wrote:
sorta
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BORING
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My life is boring.
As it seems I've broken my record for sleeping, went to sleep as soon as I got home at about 5pm and woke at 1pm the next day, I missed studying yesterday, but I'll catch up today.
As it seems I've broken my record for sleeping, went to sleep as soon as I got home at about 5pm and woke at 1pm the next day, I missed studying yesterday, but I'll catch up today.
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No. You MUST comment with more than just a number.
Posting what you learned will be a good idea, as it turns book knowledge into applied knowledge
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5/5. Procrastinated a bit this week so I did 2 hours of study today. I feel more motivated to study when I'm away from home and all its distractions, so I've been going to a cafe.
Writing what I've learned is more boring than studying itself so I'm not gonna do that all the time. But today I did some stuff on いいand な adjectives, and also just general stuff like putting together sentences, for example えいが は ぜんぜん おもしろくなかった です。 (tell me if that's wrong)
And before you get on my case, yes I'll learn the kanji and verb conjugations soon enough. I didn't have the money to buy the textbooks I wanted this week but I'll get them soon.
Writing what I've learned is more boring than studying itself so I'm not gonna do that all the time. But today I did some stuff on いいand な adjectives, and also just general stuff like putting together sentences, for example えいが は ぜんぜん おもしろくなかった です。 (tell me if that's wrong)
And before you get on my case, yes I'll learn the kanji and verb conjugations soon enough. I didn't have the money to buy the textbooks I wanted this week but I'll get them soon.
な adjectives aren't actually adjectives. They're nouns. な is an old form called rentaikei that doesn't exist in jp anymore. In these cases, it stands for だ. That is why it is conjugation with things like だった etc. I guess you're still going to interpret them as adjectives from an English perspective, but they're really really not. "静かな人 Quiet is person. Person that is quiet. Quiet person." I'm assuming at this point you're not used to head nouns so it'll make less sense. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Your sentence is fine but you don't need the です. If you want to be polite, it's おもしろくありませんでした。Look closely at the negative state. " なかった" This is past tense for nai. What is polite for nai? It's arimasen. What's negative past for this? ありませんでした. Exactly.
Yes I am aware that not ending such a sentence with です technically means it's ending with an adjective and not any sort of verb or copula. But I see this happen ALL the time where people end in actual adjectives. If you were to end it with a noun-"adjective", you would definitely need a だ though.
Also it's cool to note that two of your main words are ones that're like 20/80 written with/without kanji. You can basically get away with only using kanji for eiga and no one would bat an eye. Although personally I would use kanji for eiga and zenzen because the less amount of hiragana in a row the easier it is to read.
映画は全然面白くなかった for full kanji.
Your sentence is fine but you don't need the です. If you want to be polite, it's おもしろくありませんでした。Look closely at the negative state. " なかった" This is past tense for nai. What is polite for nai? It's arimasen. What's negative past for this? ありませんでした. Exactly.
Yes I am aware that not ending such a sentence with です technically means it's ending with an adjective and not any sort of verb or copula. But I see this happen ALL the time where people end in actual adjectives. If you were to end it with a noun-"adjective", you would definitely need a だ though.
Also it's cool to note that two of your main words are ones that're like 20/80 written with/without kanji. You can basically get away with only using kanji for eiga and no one would bat an eye. Although personally I would use kanji for eiga and zenzen because the less amount of hiragana in a row the easier it is to read.
映画は全然面白くなかった for full kanji.
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2/5
Yuudachi-kun wrote:
No. You MUST comment with more than just a number.
He wrote two.Allmynamestaken wrote:
Yuudachi-kun wrote:
No. You MUST comment with more than just a number.
Allmynamestaken wrote:
Yuudachi-kun wrote:
No. You MUST comment with more than just a number.
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By the way, I might do 10 hours of study this week. I'll pay out $50 if I don't meet that goal.
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Yep, I'm gonna force myself to follow my dreams whether I like it or not.
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Okay, I didn't have the money last week but I just ordered the Japanese textbooks, the ones I mentioned earlier + a Kodansha furigana dictionary, $365 AUD total.
I also decided to add some more pending actions to my routine, starting next week:
-20 minutes of calisthenics 3-4 times a week
-20 minutes of bow-related exercises 3-4 times a week
-60 minutes of housework a week
-bed by 1am, up by 7:30am each day of the week
-limit of $30 of takeout food/drink a fortnight, excluding coffees from cafes when studying
As always, failure to complete any of these will result in a $50 penalty to me as per the instructions in the OP. I'm also gonna change the format from daily updates to a weekly report.
I also decided to add some more pending actions to my routine, starting next week:
-20 minutes of calisthenics 3-4 times a week
-20 minutes of bow-related exercises 3-4 times a week
-60 minutes of housework a week
-bed by 1am, up by 7:30am each day of the week
-limit of $30 of takeout food/drink a fortnight, excluding coffees from cafes when studying
As always, failure to complete any of these will result in a $50 penalty to me as per the instructions in the OP. I'm also gonna change the format from daily updates to a weekly report.
hopefully doing weekly reports will give you more time to sit down and write more detailed information about what you learned so far. as always, good luck on your study
Also, how fluent do you think you are currently, at least when it comes to reading a text you haven't seen before?Foxtrot wrote:
good luck on your study
maybe you should study japanese too.
Flip that I already am having three new languages on my plate, plus helping a spelling bee out
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10/10 done. Still got 20 minutes of my teen years left before deadline.
Also, I'm gonna cancel the bed time schedule, until I get some sleeping pills from my doctor.
If you're talking to me, I still don't know much, I'm still earning basic vocabulary and sentence structure. I wouldn't know enough to understand the majority of basic conversation very well. I haven't been doing much reporting on what I've been learning because it's fairly tedious, I may do when I have time though.johnmedina999 wrote:
Also, how fluent do you think you are currently, at least when it comes to reading a text you haven't seen before?Foxtrot wrote:
good luck on your study
Also, I'm gonna cancel the bed time schedule, until I get some sleeping pills from my doctor.
It can hardly be worse than mine.lol wrote:
this thread is cool but also makes me worry about my life
rip study blog
rip studying
it's b1rd u.. u...... u imbecile
You Can't Use Numbers On 1st gen,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Best Regards,
Serra1onga
Best Regards,
Serra1onga
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serraionga i love you
serraionga i love you
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5/5 hours of studying done, did the exercises, housework, etc. I just went to sleep straight away afterwards on Sunday night then forgot about it this morning.
I'm gonna change it from 20 min to 10 min since 20 mins is a bit excessive just for pushups and stuff, and I'm gonna add 1 hour of sorting about my computer files
I'm gonna change it from 20 min to 10 min since 20 mins is a bit excessive just for pushups and stuff, and I'm gonna add 1 hour of sorting about my computer files
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I have to admit, last week I didn't really study properly. I procrastinated a fair bit and left the last 3 1/2 hours to the last minute, and when I finally had to do it I was tired so I spent most of the time dozing with the textbook in front of me. Since I effectively didn't do 4 hours, I'll have to give $200 to Allmynamestaken since he was the only poster in that week (sorry if you've posted a lot and you don't get anything, just following what's in the OP).
I'll try to keep up with the study in the future. I've done 125 mins of study this week and I'm gonna do another hour today.
I'll try to keep up with the study in the future. I've done 125 mins of study this week and I'm gonna do another hour today.
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Completed: 5 hours of study, 1h housework, 1h sorting computer files, 3 exercise sessions, 3 bow related exercise sessions, and I haven't spent more than $30 on takeaway food this fortnight.
I was pretty motivated midweek, though a cold killed my momentum a bit, so I only did the bare minimum and it make exercising a bit difficult but I still got through it. I've finally got the Japanese books that I ordered, the Genki book series, a Japanese dictionary, a grammar guide, and a Kanji learner's course book. I started on the latter tonight, I spent an hour and I still haven't finished the intro/preface/foreword and all that good stuff. I'm not a very fast learner so it'll probably take a longer while still to memorise the 2300 kanji characters afterwards.
I was pretty motivated midweek, though a cold killed my momentum a bit, so I only did the bare minimum and it make exercising a bit difficult but I still got through it. I've finally got the Japanese books that I ordered, the Genki book series, a Japanese dictionary, a grammar guide, and a Kanji learner's course book. I started on the latter tonight, I spent an hour and I still haven't finished the intro/preface/foreword and all that good stuff. I'm not a very fast learner so it'll probably take a longer while still to memorise the 2300 kanji characters afterwards.
Good luck, memorizing kanji can be slow and frustrating but don't give up!
You don't memorise; you use until it becomes learnt naturally.
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Status Report:
Everything complete. I've been studying the book I got that has about 2300 of the most common kanji, I'm studying 8 a day so I should have it done in less than a year. 44 done so far. Obviously I don't memorise all of the readings and vocabulary of every kanji as memorising something without context would be inefficient and would take far too long, so as the book suggests I just memorise the generalised meanings and one or two of the readings. Learning the kanji systematically should give me a headstart in actually being able to read Japanese text, which will have huge practical benefits in that I'll be able to practice Japanese just by reading stuff off the internet.
I've also started on the A Guide to Japanese Grammar by Tae Kim, which looks very promising in that it seems it will teach me all of the fundamentals of grammar, rather than just teaching me the Japanese equivalent of English phrases, which textbooks seem mainly to do. Though I still think textbooks will be useful for practice and learning practical words and phrases.
Of course I've also been doing exercises 3 times a week, just basic calisthenics and stretches. I've improved a bit since I've started, now I can do 35 pushups (with my chest touching the floor), 12 pull ups, 40+ squats etc., and I can get my palms on the floor with my legs straight. I've been thinking of joining a gym, but I don't really want to pay the membership costs. It's something I'll consider.
Everything complete. I've been studying the book I got that has about 2300 of the most common kanji, I'm studying 8 a day so I should have it done in less than a year. 44 done so far. Obviously I don't memorise all of the readings and vocabulary of every kanji as memorising something without context would be inefficient and would take far too long, so as the book suggests I just memorise the generalised meanings and one or two of the readings. Learning the kanji systematically should give me a headstart in actually being able to read Japanese text, which will have huge practical benefits in that I'll be able to practice Japanese just by reading stuff off the internet.
I've also started on the A Guide to Japanese Grammar by Tae Kim, which looks very promising in that it seems it will teach me all of the fundamentals of grammar, rather than just teaching me the Japanese equivalent of English phrases, which textbooks seem mainly to do. Though I still think textbooks will be useful for practice and learning practical words and phrases.
Of course I've also been doing exercises 3 times a week, just basic calisthenics and stretches. I've improved a bit since I've started, now I can do 35 pushups (with my chest touching the floor), 12 pull ups, 40+ squats etc., and I can get my palms on the floor with my legs straight. I've been thinking of joining a gym, but I don't really want to pay the membership costs. It's something I'll consider.
Damn i have respect for you. Best of luck B1rd. (y)
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What's HDUltraHenzie wrote:
You shouldn't have HD.
This is what you want, nice job finding this.B1rd wrote:
which looks very promising in that it seems it will teach me all of the fundamentals of grammar, rather than just teaching me the Japanese equivalent of English phrases,
Hard distance, the equivalence of wonky aim.
Aim is usually the most important balance in skill, although skill is not important.
Aim is usually the most important balance in skill, although skill is not important.
Tae Kim's guide to Japanese - that's a name I haven't heard in 5 years.B1rd wrote:
Status Report:
Everything complete. I've been studying the book I got that has about 2300 of the most common kanji, I'm studying 8 a day so I should have it done in less than a year. 44 done so far. Obviously I don't memorise all of the readings and vocabulary of every kanji as memorising something without context would be inefficient and would take far too long, so as the book suggests I just memorise the generalised meanings and one or two of the readings. Learning the kanji systematically should give me a headstart in actually being able to read Japanese text, which will have huge practical benefits in that I'll be able to practice Japanese just by reading stuff off the internet.
I've also started on the A Guide to Japanese Grammar by Tae Kim, which looks very promising in that it seems it will teach me all of the fundamentals of grammar, rather than just teaching me the Japanese equivalent of English phrases, which textbooks seem mainly to do. Though I still think textbooks will be useful for practice and learning practical words and phrases.
Of course I've also been doing exercises 3 times a week, just basic calisthenics and stretches. I've improved a bit since I've started, now I can do 35 pushups (with my chest touching the floor), 12 pull ups, 40+ squats etc., and I can get my palms on the floor with my legs straight. I've been thinking of joining a gym, but I don't really want to pay the membership costs. It's something I'll consider.
So you found what I used when I was a first day learner.
This isn'tis probably what Railey2 means when (s)he was saying "give feedback in addition to receiving"...
good god this thread is reminding me to learn japanese too. soon (tm)
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I remember having an android app for kanji. It was really useful.
hahhahahahhaha that pic got me.
kanjis are impossible. people should start using spaces, not a different set of letters
kanjis are impossible. people should start using spaces, not a different set of letters
There are spaces between the words and if you can't see them you're illiterate.kai99 wrote:
hahhahahahhaha that pic got me.
kanjis are impossible. people should start using spaces, not a different set of letters
correct me if im wrong, but as far as i know isnt kanji use to indicate the end of a word???Yuudachi-kun wrote:
There are spaces between the words and if you can't see them you're illiterate.kai99 wrote:
hahhahahahhaha that pic got me.
kanjis are impossible. people should start using spaces, not a different set of letters
My point is that if you know how to read it's damn well easy to tell the ends of words.
Let me go find some random article and mark them.
Let me go find some random article and mark them.
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A while ago you were complaining about how hard it was to read without kanji.