I should I listen to a corn?
That's just corny
That's just corny
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I want to read exotic eroge doujins and do shit in Japan a.k.a. anime land
Also your accent is fucked unless you're a native Spanish speaker or similar. Most if not all of the sounds are extremely similar.
makes sense, why corn tho
Learn normal conjugation not just the masu shit
行く、行った、 行かない、だった
Funny verb iku cause the past isnt いいた like other ku ending verbs eg 聞いた、抜いた、向いた etc
Im here to stay
I dunno man, following the conjugation rule i used to right iku's past as iita.
Seems useful to know its irregular in that aspect
You should already know the present standard tense of every verb because you have to use that to convert it to polite
Here is some list I made of an example verb with every possible ending.
食べる (Ends in -ru but is ichidan or as they would call it -ru)
In order to make ichidan verbs past, change the last る to た. In order to make them negative, change it to ない. Since negative verbs are all adjectives, it can be further conjugated like an adjective at this point. Adjectives change い to かった for the past tense so therefore the negative past of an ichidan verb will end with なかった。食べる -> 食べなかった
In order to make BOTH potential and passive form for ichidan verbs, replace the る with られる。食べられる
In order to make it causative, replace it with させる。食べさせる
In order to make te form, replace it with て。食べて
In order to make -tara and -tari, go to past tense and just add in that sound. 食べたら、食べたり
In order to make imperative, replace る with ろ。食べろ
In order to make renyoukei form (or as they would call it masu stem [not like that's the only use of this stem but they call it that because that's all beginners use it for]) just remove the る. 食べ
At this point I would like to note that when you make verbs like 食べられる (Let's assume passive so "to be eaten") this verb is ANOTHER ichidan verb in its entirety. If you want to make it negative, replace る with ない just like you would any other ichidan verb.
帰る (Ends in -ru but is godan or as they would call it -u)
孕む
呼ぶ
泳ぐ
打つ
死ぬ
聞く
洗う
濡らす
If you look closely at the word godan, you'll realise the go stands for 5. This is because there are 5 groups of endings for them.
く
ぐ
う、つ、る
ぬ、む、ぶ
す
Each one of these groups will have the same conjugation/sound change pattern.
For past tense the sound change goes like this:
く -> いた. 聞いた
ぐ -> いだ. 泳いだ
う、つ、る -> った. 洗った、打った、帰った
ぬ、む、ぶ -> んだ. 死んだ、孕んだ、呼んだ
す -> した. 濡らした
To get Te form for a godan verb, just use past tense and replace the -a sound with -e. So all the ta's will become te's. (Or you can learn te form and make past tense by converting all the -e's to -a's.)
In order to make negative godan verbs, change the last syllable to the -a sound equivalent and add nai.
聞かない
泳がない
洗わない、打たない 帰らない (NOTE HERE: For verbs that end in う you change the vowel toわ. For verbs that end in つ you change it to た)
死なない、孕まない、呼ばない
濡らさない
Negative past tense is handled just like past tense adjectives. Isn't that handy?
In order to make potential form, change the -u sound to it's -e equivalent and add reru.
聞ける
泳げる
洗える、打てる、帰れる
死ねる、孕める、呼べる、
濡らせる
NOTE HERE: All these sounds end in the -eru sound that you learned ichidan verbs tend to end in! That means whenever you make a godan verb into potential form, this potential form is an ichidan verb when referring to later or additional conjugations.
In order to make passive form change the -u sound to -a and add reru.
聞かれる
泳がれる
洗われる、打たれる,帰られる
死なれる、孕まれる、呼ばれる
濡らされる
Tara and tari work the same as before where you go to past tense and add the sound.
Imperative form works by changing the final -u sound to -e
聞け
泳げ
洗え、打て、帰れ
死ね、孕め、呼べ
濡らせ
The renyoukei stem is formed by chaing the final -u sound to -i
聞き
泳ぎ
洗い、打ち、帰り
死に、孕み、呼び
濡らし
Sometimes this forms nouns from the verbs!
I'll finish this after my project is done. Posting not to lose it.
Slur your words and drop particles
My first tongue twister (But only if you pronounce the R's correctly with your tongue hitting the roof of your mouth)
Rip you
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Don't just say 3/5; say WHAT you did and WHAT you learned
The old japanese lady whose last name was 小林
My mate who lived in Austrailia as a JP person who invited me to lots of weird fucking skype groups where I had to read H-doujin outloud.
郵便局はあのビルの中です。スミスさんは庭です。 Or did you want to write はにはです。in which case I'm gonna have to say no.
Yeah I think it's fine. Although I'd probably prefer to use にある and にいる instead of just です. /shrug
Exactly
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http://grammarist.com/spelling/learned-learnt/Caradine wrote:
B1rd learned spelling when!B1rd wrote:
learnt
The OP is complicated, I didn't understand.
why notYuudachi-kun wrote:
Jp is shit dont learn it
Don't repeat my mistake for 2 years
You can ask me questions though!
Also inb4 the jp title of that book is 忙しい人の為の日本語
I want to read exotic eroge doujins and do shit in Japan a.k.a. anime land
Caradine
But doujins contain kanji, aren't they? If you're planning to learn only hiragana and katakana then you're going nowhere.B1rd wrote:
why not
I want to read exotic eroge doujins and do shit in Japan a.k.a. anime land
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I never said I wasn't gonna learn kanji
time to memorise 10 billion+ individual characters to read a children's book because the Japanese were too lazy to come up with their own alphabet and just copied the Chinese
time to memorise 10 billion+ individual characters to read a children's book because the Japanese were too lazy to come up with their own alphabet and just copied the Chinese
this reminds me of when i tried to learn japanese. i never went past memorizing their alphabet
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I was actually top of my class in Japanese for a year, only got one question wrong on the end-of-year test. But the teacher expected me to keep up that level of performance and I couldn't keep up with the pressure, so I stopped going. Hence my problems with committing myself.
Besides that, my other goal is to pull back and shoot a 150lb warbow (for comparison, bows used by Olympic recurve archers are usually around 40-50lb). I'll keep you guys updated on that, don't expect anything for a few years though.
Besides that, my other goal is to pull back and shoot a 150lb warbow (for comparison, bows used by Olympic recurve archers are usually around 40-50lb). I'll keep you guys updated on that, don't expect anything for a few years though.
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3/5 hours done, hold me back niggas
I've finally finished revising all of the material that I've done before: memorising kana, times, numbers, counting, requesting and buying objects, greetings, nationalities and ownership, and some vocab. What I've started on now is transportation verbs and verb tenses, stuff I'm pretty solid on but it wouldn't hurt to go over it in this book.
I've finally finished revising all of the material that I've done before: memorising kana, times, numbers, counting, requesting and buying objects, greetings, nationalities and ownership, and some vocab. What I've started on now is transportation verbs and verb tenses, stuff I'm pretty solid on but it wouldn't hurt to go over it in this book.
ワイトピグゴーホームB1rd wrote:
I want to ... do shit in Japan a.k.a. anime land
Also your accent is fucked unless you're a native Spanish speaker or similar. Most if not all of the sounds are extremely similar.
I can already read ero doujin
Going to japn land is also overrated; the people and culture suck
I was 怒らせられやがった from their isolated shit everywhere on the net
Figure out that fucking mess of a verb conjugation
Thats your homework
Going to japn land is also overrated; the people and culture suck
I was 怒らせられやがった from their isolated shit everywhere on the net
Figure out that fucking mess of a verb conjugation
Thats your homework
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And I'm not gonna try and figure out what that thing is. Don't know what you mean about isolated shit.
怒る present
怒らせる causative (but still an ichidan verb in this state)
怒らせられる add passive tense
怒らせられやがる renyoukei + yagaru
怒らせられやがった yagaru in past tense
By isolated shit I mean lots of services are only availible to japanese people, kind of like thst korean ssn shit to play certain games; it's part of their dumbshit culture that foreigners are excluded from even attempting to acess the same thingd they do.
Not to mention the condescendin attitude
怒らせる causative (but still an ichidan verb in this state)
怒らせられる add passive tense
怒らせられやがる renyoukei + yagaru
怒らせられやがった yagaru in past tense
By isolated shit I mean lots of services are only availible to japanese people, kind of like thst korean ssn shit to play certain games; it's part of their dumbshit culture that foreigners are excluded from even attempting to acess the same thingd they do.
Not to mention the condescendin attitude
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I don't need you to run down that, I'm far from memorising verbs and vocab and doing verb conjugation.
I know Japs are xenophobic and reclusive, I don't really mind, and since you made your right wing thread I don't know why you're against a country maintaining their culture. That's talking about the actual country though, if you want to play the games just get a Jap VPN and pretend you're Japanese.
I know Japs are xenophobic and reclusive, I don't really mind, and since you made your right wing thread I don't know why you're against a country maintaining their culture. That's talking about the actual country though, if you want to play the games just get a Jap VPN and pretend you're Japanese.
My point is if I want to buy online services or products from jp, THEY SHOULD ALLOW FOREIGNERS TO LITERALLY GIVE THEM
MONEY; but no you have to go through a bunch of hoops whrn simply being able to navigate and read jp as a foreigner should suffice.
Also lmbo if you didn't lesrn all your verb conjugations from the start.
Also lmbo if you think you need to memorise vocab; that's dumb. For vocab all you need to do is read and write. Write the words you know and make sentences even if they're shit; and never stop attempting to read things. Even if you look up 90% of words you'll remember some somehow. It's great.
MONEY; but no you have to go through a bunch of hoops whrn simply being able to navigate and read jp as a foreigner should suffice.
Also lmbo if you didn't lesrn all your verb conjugations from the start.
Also lmbo if you think you need to memorise vocab; that's dumb. For vocab all you need to do is read and write. Write the words you know and make sentences even if they're shit; and never stop attempting to read things. Even if you look up 90% of words you'll remember some somehow. It's great.
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I was pissed off one time because DLsite fucked me over by short changing me of points. Their about page was wrong and it was their fault I lost the points but they refused to compensate me the $2. They can suit themselves, I'll just pirate that shit.
I like rote memorisation. I'll start learning more by reading when I have a basic vocabulary and understand the grammar.
There is tons of stuff to learn before all of the different types of verb conjugations. I learnt a fair bit of that stuff but I've since forgotten, I'm starting again from a beginner's level to give me a comprehensive knowledge.
I like rote memorisation. I'll start learning more by reading when I have a basic vocabulary and understand the grammar.
There is tons of stuff to learn before all of the different types of verb conjugations. I learnt a fair bit of that stuff but I've since forgotten, I'm starting again from a beginner's level to give me a comprehensive knowledge.
Rote memorisation is awful; without actually reading you'll not be able to put the proper word into context orconnotation.
Also imo there's nothing hardly to learn before verb conjugation; how do you expect to have sentences form without the almighty verb?
For me it went: both kana, jlpt5 kanji + all conjugation + all basic particles (not things lik combinations like との、には etc). And then lots of reading. I can't see what could come before them. Simple phrases don't count as they are useless. They can be formed naturally through you knowin things or learned from reading if they're jp specific like ごちそうさま.
In the almost 3 years since I stopped actively learning anything, I haven't forgotten much because every free moment in my high school and home time was spent on this language and I never memorised what I tried to learn. Lots of other people tend to forget things, like you, because they prefer to memorise first and understand second. (And procrastinate on understsanding)
Also imo there's nothing hardly to learn before verb conjugation; how do you expect to have sentences form without the almighty verb?
For me it went: both kana, jlpt5 kanji + all conjugation + all basic particles (not things lik combinations like との、には etc). And then lots of reading. I can't see what could come before them. Simple phrases don't count as they are useless. They can be formed naturally through you knowin things or learned from reading if they're jp specific like ごちそうさま.
In the almost 3 years since I stopped actively learning anything, I haven't forgotten much because every free moment in my high school and home time was spent on this language and I never memorised what I tried to learn. Lots of other people tend to forget things, like you, because they prefer to memorise first and understand second. (And procrastinate on understsanding)
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When you memorise the stuff you can read later to have a better understanding of the context. I'd rather focus on grammar rather than memorising stuff like the words for counting cylindrical objects from 1-10, but it hardly matters if I do it now or later.
Different people do things different ways. I've forgotten things that I've learnt but once I start studying it again it comes back pretty quickly. Once I actually have a basic understanding of the language then I will start reading stuff.
Different people do things different ways. I've forgotten things that I've learnt but once I start studying it again it comes back pretty quickly. Once I actually have a basic understanding of the language then I will start reading stuff.
Imo focusing on grammar implies reading.
Bring up some questions because I am bored
Bring up some questions because I am bored
I feel that avatar is spinning faster everyday
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I feel that avatar is spinning faster everyday
makes sense, why corn tho
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4/5 hours done.
I did the chapter that covered verb conjugation today. I remember it was pretty much the first thing I learnt in Japanese class: ikimasu, ikimashita, ikimasen deshita etc.
I did the chapter that covered verb conjugation today. I remember it was pretty much the first thing I learnt in Japanese class: ikimasu, ikimashita, ikimasen deshita etc.
Nothing wrong with practicing the very basics. I think you're doing a great job, keep it up!
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4/5 hours done.
I did the chapter that covered verb conjugation today. I remember it was pretty much the first thing I learnt in Japanese class: ikimasu, ikimashita, ikimasen deshita etc.
Learn normal conjugation not just the masu shit
行く、行った、 行かない、だった
Funny verb iku cause the past isnt いいた like other ku ending verbs eg 聞いた、抜いた、向いた etc
Funfact: since all negative verbs end in ない (or as you know since all you do is polite - ありません) all negative verbs are technically adjectives!
Theres some form inbetween the conjugation >> 飲ま from nomu that means something, but I can't remember the lexical term. Its not a modern jp thing except for attaching nai iirc
Theres some form inbetween the conjugation >> 飲ま from nomu that means something, but I can't remember the lexical term. Its not a modern jp thing except for attaching nai iirc
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You're just flaunting your knowledge, you're not actually teaching me anything.
Are you gonna learn normal conjugationB1rd wrote:
You're just flaunting your knowledge, you're not actually teaching me anything.
Im here to stay
I dunno man, following the conjugation rule i used to right iku's past as iita.
Seems useful to know its irregular in that aspect
now say that in japanese.
Nounを食え
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Last I heard it was my blog thread not yours. If you want one make your own. I'm OK if you want to teach me things like informal verb conjugation, but you''ll actually have to explain it so I can learn, rather than just stating some abstract sentences, or complain that I'm not learning the way you think I should.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Are you gonna learn normal conjugation
Im here to stay
I dunno man, following the conjugation rule i used to right iku's past as iita.
Seems useful to know its irregular in that aspect
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Last I heard it was my blog thread not yours. If you want one make your own. I'm OK if you want to teach me things like informal verb conjugation, but you''ll actually have to explain it so I can learn, rather than just stating some abstract sentences, or complain that I'm not learning the way you think I should.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Are you gonna learn normal conjugation
Im here to stay
I dunno man, following the conjugation rule i used to right iku's past as iita.
Seems useful to know its irregular in that aspect
You should already know the present standard tense of every verb because you have to use that to convert it to polite
Here is some list I made of an example verb with every possible ending.
食べる (Ends in -ru but is ichidan or as they would call it -ru)
In order to make ichidan verbs past, change the last る to た. In order to make them negative, change it to ない. Since negative verbs are all adjectives, it can be further conjugated like an adjective at this point. Adjectives change い to かった for the past tense so therefore the negative past of an ichidan verb will end with なかった。食べる -> 食べなかった
In order to make BOTH potential and passive form for ichidan verbs, replace the る with られる。食べられる
In order to make it causative, replace it with させる。食べさせる
In order to make te form, replace it with て。食べて
In order to make -tara and -tari, go to past tense and just add in that sound. 食べたら、食べたり
In order to make imperative, replace る with ろ。食べろ
In order to make renyoukei form (or as they would call it masu stem [not like that's the only use of this stem but they call it that because that's all beginners use it for]) just remove the る. 食べ
At this point I would like to note that when you make verbs like 食べられる (Let's assume passive so "to be eaten") this verb is ANOTHER ichidan verb in its entirety. If you want to make it negative, replace る with ない just like you would any other ichidan verb.
帰る (Ends in -ru but is godan or as they would call it -u)
孕む
呼ぶ
泳ぐ
打つ
死ぬ
聞く
洗う
濡らす
If you look closely at the word godan, you'll realise the go stands for 5. This is because there are 5 groups of endings for them.
く
ぐ
う、つ、る
ぬ、む、ぶ
す
Each one of these groups will have the same conjugation/sound change pattern.
For past tense the sound change goes like this:
く -> いた. 聞いた
ぐ -> いだ. 泳いだ
う、つ、る -> った. 洗った、打った、帰った
ぬ、む、ぶ -> んだ. 死んだ、孕んだ、呼んだ
す -> した. 濡らした
To get Te form for a godan verb, just use past tense and replace the -a sound with -e. So all the ta's will become te's. (Or you can learn te form and make past tense by converting all the -e's to -a's.)
In order to make negative godan verbs, change the last syllable to the -a sound equivalent and add nai.
聞かない
泳がない
洗わない、打たない 帰らない (NOTE HERE: For verbs that end in う you change the vowel toわ. For verbs that end in つ you change it to た)
死なない、孕まない、呼ばない
濡らさない
Negative past tense is handled just like past tense adjectives. Isn't that handy?
In order to make potential form, change the -u sound to it's -e equivalent and add reru.
聞ける
泳げる
洗える、打てる、帰れる
死ねる、孕める、呼べる、
濡らせる
NOTE HERE: All these sounds end in the -eru sound that you learned ichidan verbs tend to end in! That means whenever you make a godan verb into potential form, this potential form is an ichidan verb when referring to later or additional conjugations.
In order to make passive form change the -u sound to -a and add reru.
聞かれる
泳がれる
洗われる、打たれる,帰られる
死なれる、孕まれる、呼ばれる
濡らされる
Tara and tari work the same as before where you go to past tense and add the sound.
Imperative form works by changing the final -u sound to -e
聞け
泳げ
洗え、打て、帰れ
死ね、孕め、呼べ
濡らせ
The renyoukei stem is formed by chaing the final -u sound to -i
聞き
泳ぎ
洗い、打ち、帰り
死に、孕み、呼び
濡らし
Sometimes this forms nouns from the verbs!
I'll finish this after my project is done. Posting not to lose it.
I remember trying to learn conversions and that was a fucking hell
Foxtrot wrote:
I remember trying to learn conversions and that was a fucking hell
Slur your words and drop particles
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I'll review this when I have time.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
I'll finish this after my project is done. Posting not to lose it.
What did he mean by this.Foxtrot wrote:
I remember trying to learn conversions and that was a fucking hell
I think the more accurate term I was looking for was conjugations. There are simple ones, like "-て" for U-verbs (which come in different groups since U-verbs can end in different -te forms). These conjugations are used when you want to describe an action, request an action, or forbid one. Now, the complicated thing that Khelly was talking about is the crazy amount of conjugations. I only learned present and past tense at school and I sure remember the struggle.B1rd wrote:
What did he mean by this.Foxtrot wrote:
I remember trying to learn conversions and that was a fucking hell
I prefer the term godan verb since it has 5 different groups of te endings; that's why its called go. Imo there aren't that many conjugations in the grand scheme of things; as long as you at least try to write then you'll "memorise" them all fairly quickly.
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5/5 hours done.
I remember doing て forms and stuff, it's been a while so I'll need some material to concrete my memory.
I've been reading though, apparently you need to study a lot more than 5 hours a week to learn the thing in a timely manner. Wish I could just pull motivation out of my arse like some people can.
I remember doing て forms and stuff, it's been a while so I'll need some material to concrete my memory.
I've been reading though, apparently you need to study a lot more than 5 hours a week to learn the thing in a timely manner. Wish I could just pull motivation out of my arse like some people can.
You can repeat the te form list i gave you as a mneumomic for godan verbs
It's fairly effective
くいて、ぐいで、うつるって、ぬむぶんで、すして
It's fairly effective
くいて、ぐいで、うつるって、ぬむぶんで、すして
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Lol, saying taberareru just seems silly.
It seems like good information, but I think it will take me some time and study to understand all of the complicated verb conjugations.
It seems like good information, but I think it will take me some time and study to understand all of the complicated verb conjugations.
The motivation comes from the enthusiasm of being able to read raws before translations come out.B1rd wrote:
Wish I could just pull motivation out of my arse like some people can.
Say the verb 現れる 5 times fast. (あらわれる)B1rd wrote:
Lol, saying taberareru just seems silly.
It seems like good information, but I think it will take me some time and study to understand all of the complicated verb conjugations.
My first tongue twister (But only if you pronounce the R's correctly with your tongue hitting the roof of your mouth)
Jesus christ b1rd just be happy that Khel is willing to give you good help on the subject
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So it's Monday and once again I'm tired af, gonna skip it again.
B1rd wrote:
So it's Monday and once again I'm tired af, gonna skip it again.
Rip you
It begins
Do you have anybody to practice Japanese with? For me, the best way to learn it was to practice it with my classmates and reading (like Khelly suggested).
Anime is also a good way to learn the language
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1/5 h
Well I allowed myself two days off a week so I may as well have them when I'm tired (as opposed to my other two states, lethargic and asleep).Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Rip youB1rd wrote:
So it's Monday and once again I'm tired af, gonna skip it again.
It begins
Well I'm not exactly at the stage where I can have in depths conversations, not sure how taking turns saying KORE WA SUMISU SAN NO PENSHIRU is gonna be that beneficial as opposed to just writing.Foxtrot wrote:
Do you have anybody to practice Japanese with? For me, the best way to learn it was to practice it with my classmates and reading (like Khelly suggested).
Yeah, I forgot to mention that writing also helps but obviously that's a given.
If it were me, and was me, there wouldn't be any days off from jp a week. A "day off" is simply having pure fun with jp by writing random useless shit, browsing nico nico, and playing dumb sprite games in jp. No hardcore studying.
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2/5
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3/5
issei no sei
Na kumikono itori
bokurawa
If i posted the lyrics right
Na kumikono itori
bokurawa
If i posted the lyrics right
Actually outline more b1rd
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What was that
B1rd wrote:
What was that
Don't just say 3/5; say WHAT you did and WHAT you learned
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Well, last lesson was about prepositions and the particle が and や, for example テーブル の うえ に しんぶん や はな が あります。
Soon I'll look at learning verb conjugations and getting a kanji textbook to study.
Soon I'll look at learning verb conjugations and getting a kanji textbook to study.
Imo at that point it's very useful to start using simple kanji like
上、新聞、花
In the sentences you see so you can start linking kanji to words
You don't need all the readings, just at least one to start
In this case its kun for he first and last and on for the middle two
If you need a kun for shinbun then two words to learn is
新しい あたらしい new
聞く きく hear/listen/ask
Kanji also makes it incredibly easy to find spaces between words. If it's 100% kana it gets a bit hard at times
上、新聞、花
In the sentences you see so you can start linking kanji to words
You don't need all the readings, just at least one to start
In this case its kun for he first and last and on for the middle two
If you need a kun for shinbun then two words to learn is
新しい あたらしい new
聞く きく hear/listen/ask
Kanji also makes it incredibly easy to find spaces between words. If it's 100% kana it gets a bit hard at times
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I've previously learnt about 50 kanji, I know the ones for ue, shita, naka, the days of the week, kikimasu, kakimasu, tabemasu, etc. I guess I might try to implement kanji into my writing and look up the kanji for words I'm using, as well as get a textbook and do a more methodical study of them.
When you write kanji, stroke order is important! but it does not have to be memorised on some large scale basis. Once you know stroke order for a handful of kanji you'll automatically know the pattern for many many subsequent kanji and be able to break them down into their constituent parts.
For example:聞く is just writing 門 then 耳
Alternative example: 魔 looks pretty complicated right? Well I cant think of an example for the top outerpart right now but following that it's just 木 twice then 鬼. To break down oni, after the little tick at the top the big fat part is just written like 田 and the legs like in 見. Then the thing ontop of that right leg is ム which you'll notice is katakana for mu.
For example:聞く is just writing 門 then 耳
Alternative example: 魔 looks pretty complicated right? Well I cant think of an example for the top outerpart right now but following that it's just 木 twice then 鬼. To break down oni, after the little tick at the top the big fat part is just written like 田 and the legs like in 見. Then the thing ontop of that right leg is ム which you'll notice is katakana for mu.
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4/5; more of same + vocab; did an all nighter so missed an hour, finish on Sunday
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5/5
So in my book I've done yuubinkyouku wa ano biru no naka desu, would something like sumisu-san wa niwa desu also be correct?
So in my book I've done yuubinkyouku wa ano biru no naka desu, would something like sumisu-san wa niwa desu also be correct?
Ever had a convo with an actual japanese person or just someone who is fluent? I still feel like this is one of the best and "healthiest" methods of practice. Just wondering.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
If it were me, and was me, there wouldn't be any days off from jp a week. A "day off" is simply having pure fun with jp by writing random useless shit, browsing nico nico, and playing dumb sprite games in jp. No hardcore studying.
BGglass a lot. Cool fucking guy. He knew lots of English and was 40 years old too.Comfy Slippers wrote:
Ever had a convo with an actual japanese person or just someone who is fluent? I still feel like this is one of the best and "healthiest" methods of practice. Just wondering.Yuudachi-kun wrote:
If it were me, and was me, there wouldn't be any days off from jp a week. A "day off" is simply having pure fun with jp by writing random useless shit, browsing nico nico, and playing dumb sprite games in jp. No hardcore studying.
The old japanese lady whose last name was 小林
My mate who lived in Austrailia as a JP person who invited me to lots of weird fucking skype groups where I had to read H-doujin outloud.
Start typing like this!B1rd wrote:
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So in my book I've done yuubinkyouku wa ano biru no naka desu, would something like sumisu-san wa niwa desu also be correct?
郵便局はあのビルの中です。スミスさんは庭です。 Or did you want to write はにはです。in which case I'm gonna have to say no.
Yeah I think it's fine. Although I'd probably prefer to use にある and にいる instead of just です. /shrug
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1/5
What are you studying this week?
johnmedina999 wrote:
What are you studying this week?
Exactly
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can't be bothered writing detailed reports at this current time.
can't be bothered writing detailed reports at this current time.
If you ever feel like practicing writing to someone in Japanese feel free to do so with me. I only know the basics, but it'd be a good practice. Or write to Khelly
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3/5. Currently about 100 pages into my exercise book "Japanese for Busy People". I'll probably order volume two and a kanji book sometime soon.
I'll write some more tomorrow.
Thanks. Once I gain some basic competency I'll look into writing/talking with people, as well as probably paying for an online tutor. Though I think I'm gonna focus on the written aspect.Foxtrot wrote:
If you ever feel like practicing writing to someone in Japanese feel free to do so with me. I only know the basics, but it'd be a good practice. Or write to Khelly
I'll write some more tomorrow.
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4/5. Spent the day revising kana stroke order, vocabulary, and numbers.
Just put myself in debt for the next two decades by buying some new textnooks: Genki 1 and 2 + workbooks, The Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course: A Step-by-Step Guide to Mastering 2300 Characters, and A Guide to Japanese Grammar
Just put myself in debt for the next two decades by buying some new textnooks: Genki 1 and 2 + workbooks, The Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course: A Step-by-Step Guide to Mastering 2300 Characters, and A Guide to Japanese Grammar
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5/5
about 100 pages in and one exercise book filled in.
about 100 pages in and one exercise book filled in.
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1/5
dam, going strong!
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sorta
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2/5
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sorta
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BORING
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My life is boring.
As it seems I've broken my record for sleeping, went to sleep as soon as I got home at about 5pm and woke at 1pm the next day, I missed studying yesterday, but I'll catch up today.
As it seems I've broken my record for sleeping, went to sleep as soon as I got home at about 5pm and woke at 1pm the next day, I missed studying yesterday, but I'll catch up today.
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3/5
No. You MUST comment with more than just a number.
Posting what you learned will be a good idea, as it turns book knowledge into applied knowledge
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5/5. Procrastinated a bit this week so I did 2 hours of study today. I feel more motivated to study when I'm away from home and all its distractions, so I've been going to a cafe.
Writing what I've learned is more boring than studying itself so I'm not gonna do that all the time. But today I did some stuff on いいand な adjectives, and also just general stuff like putting together sentences, for example えいが は ぜんぜん おもしろくなかった です。 (tell me if that's wrong)
And before you get on my case, yes I'll learn the kanji and verb conjugations soon enough. I didn't have the money to buy the textbooks I wanted this week but I'll get them soon.
Writing what I've learned is more boring than studying itself so I'm not gonna do that all the time. But today I did some stuff on いいand な adjectives, and also just general stuff like putting together sentences, for example えいが は ぜんぜん おもしろくなかった です。 (tell me if that's wrong)
And before you get on my case, yes I'll learn the kanji and verb conjugations soon enough. I didn't have the money to buy the textbooks I wanted this week but I'll get them soon.
な adjectives aren't actually adjectives. They're nouns. な is an old form called rentaikei that doesn't exist in jp anymore. In these cases, it stands for だ. That is why it is conjugation with things like だった etc. I guess you're still going to interpret them as adjectives from an English perspective, but they're really really not. "静かな人 Quiet is person. Person that is quiet. Quiet person." I'm assuming at this point you're not used to head nouns so it'll make less sense. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Your sentence is fine but you don't need the です. If you want to be polite, it's おもしろくありませんでした。Look closely at the negative state. " なかった" This is past tense for nai. What is polite for nai? It's arimasen. What's negative past for this? ありませんでした. Exactly.
Yes I am aware that not ending such a sentence with です technically means it's ending with an adjective and not any sort of verb or copula. But I see this happen ALL the time where people end in actual adjectives. If you were to end it with a noun-"adjective", you would definitely need a だ though.
Also it's cool to note that two of your main words are ones that're like 20/80 written with/without kanji. You can basically get away with only using kanji for eiga and no one would bat an eye. Although personally I would use kanji for eiga and zenzen because the less amount of hiragana in a row the easier it is to read.
映画は全然面白くなかった for full kanji.
Your sentence is fine but you don't need the です. If you want to be polite, it's おもしろくありませんでした。Look closely at the negative state. " なかった" This is past tense for nai. What is polite for nai? It's arimasen. What's negative past for this? ありませんでした. Exactly.
Yes I am aware that not ending such a sentence with です technically means it's ending with an adjective and not any sort of verb or copula. But I see this happen ALL the time where people end in actual adjectives. If you were to end it with a noun-"adjective", you would definitely need a だ though.
Also it's cool to note that two of your main words are ones that're like 20/80 written with/without kanji. You can basically get away with only using kanji for eiga and no one would bat an eye. Although personally I would use kanji for eiga and zenzen because the less amount of hiragana in a row the easier it is to read.
映画は全然面白くなかった for full kanji.
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2/5
Yuudachi-kun wrote:
No. You MUST comment with more than just a number.
He wrote two.Allmynamestaken wrote:
Yuudachi-kun wrote:
No. You MUST comment with more than just a number.
Allmynamestaken wrote:
Yuudachi-kun wrote:
No. You MUST comment with more than just a number.
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By the way, I might do 10 hours of study this week. I'll pay out $50 if I don't meet that goal.
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Yep, I'm gonna force myself to follow my dreams whether I like it or not.
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Okay, I didn't have the money last week but I just ordered the Japanese textbooks, the ones I mentioned earlier + a Kodansha furigana dictionary, $365 AUD total.
I also decided to add some more pending actions to my routine, starting next week:
-20 minutes of calisthenics 3-4 times a week
-20 minutes of bow-related exercises 3-4 times a week
-60 minutes of housework a week
-bed by 1am, up by 7:30am each day of the week
-limit of $30 of takeout food/drink a fortnight, excluding coffees from cafes when studying
As always, failure to complete any of these will result in a $50 penalty to me as per the instructions in the OP. I'm also gonna change the format from daily updates to a weekly report.
I also decided to add some more pending actions to my routine, starting next week:
-20 minutes of calisthenics 3-4 times a week
-20 minutes of bow-related exercises 3-4 times a week
-60 minutes of housework a week
-bed by 1am, up by 7:30am each day of the week
-limit of $30 of takeout food/drink a fortnight, excluding coffees from cafes when studying
As always, failure to complete any of these will result in a $50 penalty to me as per the instructions in the OP. I'm also gonna change the format from daily updates to a weekly report.
hopefully doing weekly reports will give you more time to sit down and write more detailed information about what you learned so far. as always, good luck on your study
Also, how fluent do you think you are currently, at least when it comes to reading a text you haven't seen before?Foxtrot wrote:
good luck on your study
maybe you should study japanese too.
Flip that I already am having three new languages on my plate, plus helping a spelling bee out
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10/10 done. Still got 20 minutes of my teen years left before deadline.
Also, I'm gonna cancel the bed time schedule, until I get some sleeping pills from my doctor.
If you're talking to me, I still don't know much, I'm still earning basic vocabulary and sentence structure. I wouldn't know enough to understand the majority of basic conversation very well. I haven't been doing much reporting on what I've been learning because it's fairly tedious, I may do when I have time though.johnmedina999 wrote:
Also, how fluent do you think you are currently, at least when it comes to reading a text you haven't seen before?Foxtrot wrote:
good luck on your study
Also, I'm gonna cancel the bed time schedule, until I get some sleeping pills from my doctor.
It can hardly be worse than mine.lol wrote:
this thread is cool but also makes me worry about my life