A thread where everyone can relate to.
people still know each other, you just don't know themBlue Dragon wrote:
it was good exactly because it was basically a circlejerk, now it's pretty much everyone from forum games joining in with "hey guys xDD im so randommmm gonna make threads about toasters LOL!!!!! also hi mods ^^" which is pretty annoyingMilkshake wrote:
aren't you guys fantasizing about 5-years-ago-OT a bit too much? we had nice running gags and shit like that, but to say it was so much better than it is now...well, not so much. the main difference was most of the people actually KNEW each other so it basically became an exclusive cool kidz club.
the humor was as bad as it is now, the difference is that people actually knew each other so the jokes weren't as awkward as it is to read things now
Sorry sir, fixed.Aurani wrote:
What does that quote have to do with me insulting people?
... then sound logic dictates that what I think and say here is of no concern to you either.yes it is cause you're insulting people who work hard to make this community better for everyone. Unlike you, I haven't talked shit about any of these "old" users. I'm trying to stay neutral in this discussion as much as possible and present my arguments with understanding of "both sides".
Tae wrote:
I'd personally describe it as something that can actually be discussed and is relevant to those in OT... which, in all fairness, a lot of these threads don't fulfill.
I wonder what others consider it to be though.
Aurani wrote:
"Post shit that has some sort of underbelly to it, makes even marginal sense and reasoning behind it and can be properly replied to"
I think that's loose enough for everyone to both have fun and be decent about it.
see now we're getting somewhereMeah wrote:
A thread where everyone can relate to.
Yes, but people need to learn that OT isn't their personal place to post whatever.kai99 wrote:
see, sometimes I think making a "quality" thread is hard and people just need somewhere to post their shit, hence the shitposters
Take a look in the mirror, i'm not the one who tries to purposely antagonize people by calling their community shit and insulting them over hours.Aurani wrote:
What the fuck are you on about?
How is spamming memes and being utterly retarded in EVERY sense of that definition good in ANY way to you? It isn't, you're just countering me without any actual reason - something I've noticed you doing in other discussions with other people. It's like you enjoy making things tense in a perverse way, but whatever, you aren't the point of discussion here.
oh lmao this is such an obvious factAurani wrote:
You see, if you make a thread that says "Flanster best boi ban me daddy" or has a similar theme, 5 times in a month, you're either extremely lonely and needy for attention, have some sort of mental issue so you can't understand the basic concept of content that SHOULDN'T be posted, despite a heap of examples from the past showing you how to behave, or you're just an utter troll who understands everything but gives absolutely no fucks regardless of what's going on.
I do NOT have a problem with people being dumb and having a giggle every once in a whileYet you call them imbeciles.
You see, if you make a thread that says "Flanster best boi ban me daddy" or has a similar theme, 5 times in a month, you're either extremely lonely and needy for attention, have some sort of mental issue so you can't understand the basic concept of content that SHOULDN'T be posted, despite a heap of examples from the past showing you how to behave, or you're just an utter troll who understands everything but gives absolutely no fucks regardless of what's going on.Which is similar to what you guys had "back in the day". For you, it's easier to trashtalk rather than participate and understand the meaning behind some of these threads. Only then will your arguments beat out the things I say.
Aurani wrote:
I don't visit the place for half a day and people are already showing their retarded side.
The reason "old OT" was a much better place is because of two things:
1) People who shitposted at least displayed a minimum of 80 IQ in form of witty shitposts, compared to today's OT regulars who do their utmost to post the most autistic, least funny bullshit they can think of, if the concept of "thinking" can even be applied to their pitiful existence
2) In spite of all the junk that was undeniably there, some threads were still breeding grounds for nice discussions, compared to today when the only "intelligent" discussions spawn in ITT and even those immediately get tainted by the sheer scale of idiocy circling around this place.
All in all, old OT might've been a filthy piss bottle, but the current OT is like a bucket full of 8-month old semen mixed with salmonella and cockroach spit.You flatter yourself, slave.Hika wrote:
Oops sorry. I'll post more then.
I don't need a pretentious pseudo-intellectual such as yourself telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about because you don't want to admit that this community is shit. Shitposting existed back then to a limited degree as well, but there difference was that there were some individuals who weren't just shitposters and who were actually interesting to interact with. I understand the "culture" and "inside jokes" of shitposting perfectly, it's just as asinine as it was back then, it's low quality posting that doesn't require any thought or effort. Anyone could do it, I have no desire to.Railey2 wrote:
Real talk.
its common knowledge that people have a strong tendency to romanticise the past. The reasons for that are manifold, but without going further into it:
The only difference between OT back then and today now is, that you have a harder time relating to the people that frequent OT today. You lost your exclusive club and since you're not invited to the new one, you interpret lots of the banter and inside jokes here as senseless shitposting (because thats what it looks like to you).
But there's a new community here today and they're having a blast, just like you did 5 years ago.
You can still have meaningful discussions with most people here, the possibilities are all there.. you just don't have an interest in actually getting to know anyone here.
Complaining is always easier than actually getting engaged once more.
if you want to keep feeling bad about what you've lost but refuse to see whats there to be gained, then the past will always look more appealing than the present.
You make your choices.
If they left because the place was shit then they were part of the problemBlue Dragon wrote:
the reason why most of the OT oldfags left is because this place is a pile of stinky shitjohnmedina999 wrote:
Here we go! The moment we've all been waiting for. The reason why Mara and B1rd and Auranai and Hika and abraker are the only ones here that have been here for 5+ years are still here; one of the reasons why the others have left. This is it!
I mean at least before it was a laughable pile of stinky shit
now it's just stinky
Explain the "talking to yourself" part.Railey2 wrote:
there are plenty individuals that are interesting to interact with here, you just don't know that because you've been talking to yourself for the last 3 years.
Who is interesting? Who has said anything meaningful outside of a couple of people or a few isolated examples? I haven't been talking to myself, that doesn't even make any sense.Railey2 wrote:
there are plenty individuals that are interesting to interact with here, you just don't know that because you've been talking to yourself for the last 3 years.
lmao thought it was a sarcasm directed at me borrowing the title of someone else's thread.Aurani wrote:
No, the thread wasn't made by you, Kai.
you should compare dear kai99 to the ''i'm turning japanese''-sort of thread from the screenshot.Aurani wrote:
Are you actually TRYING to compare someone like Wojjan, the greatest of all shitposters, to something like "dear kai99", to name a random thread? Because that's the kind of shitposter I like, compared to a normal, mindless shitposter. Just because people like Wojjan existed, doesn't mean there weren't shitposters back then who are the same as the ones I'm talking about right now.
The ONLY side I stand on is my own side. I'm explaining my point of having a problem with people who REPEATEDLY (note the word - to answer Comfy's "yet you call them imbeciles") fail to contribute ANYTHING of note.
As for OT stinking less being a myth: "only 25% of people will be here after 4 years" - so if the other 75% are replaced with mindless turnips (it's just an example, chill your tits, since I already know that you want to take the number literally), compared to there being a 50-50 in the past, doesn't that prove that it's filthier now than it was before?
I personally think there were more serious and intelligent people active back then, and by that point I shall remain until you provide solid evidence for the contrary, in which case I'll change my opinion. Nostalgia has no play in it, as it's my rational conclusion after having been here for 4 and a half + 2 years.
why dont u love me 2Aurani wrote:
But no matter which way you turn it, it still makes no sense. Even if I didn't like you and only knew you as a familiar face in OT, that would still, according to that, be incorrect. I mean I'm familiar with Bird and I love Hika, yet neither of those two's posts are perfect, nor am I biased towards them.
As I said, you make the perfect example with the current discussion, and you can't deny it, since you know I respect you, yet here we are.
You definitely make a point there with the age, but age can't explain certain behaviour that some people have (mindless shitposting).Railey2 wrote:
This is an awkward position.
All i can tell you that i haven't experienced any significant change in the community over the last 2.5 years, and nothing from pre-2015 suggests that its been better before i joined.
From past experiences and with some knowledge about the psychological basis of the ''golden age fallacy'' (unofficial name), i can tell you that people are almost always wrong when they start talking about how things used to be better. You claim that none of this applies to you because you're unbiased, be it naturally or through conscious effort.
You tell me it was better, i'm here looking at OT 4 years ago like .......
Neither of us has the will or time to do a statistical analysis of OT in its totality to prove an increase or decrease in quality, so where does that leave us?
i would love to have the same discussion with you in 4 years again, but i don't think either of us will be around by then, sadly.
The last thing i ask you to consider is this:
People that were around 4 years ago are 4 years older today. Blitzfrog and kai are 16 today, they will both be 20 in 4 years.
if you still talk to people from back then, how they act today might affect your memories of how they were back then (far more immature), skewing them in their favor.
I have always secretly loved you and have made intricate plans to remove Tom.Milkshake wrote:
why dont u love me 2
I have no idea who you're directing this at, but as always you're extremely arrogant, to insist that you're right, you're the only rational one, everyone else's perception of reality is wrong, even though you have no evidence, and that the reason that this subforum isn't good for us isn't because of meaningless shitposting non-stop, it's becasue we're not "engaging" with the community in the right way. Absolute nonsense, the reason why I don't bother engaging is that I wouldn't get any satisfaction from participating in the asinine behavior like spamming one letter posts that was going on just before this argument. I liked the old posters because they were better, and so I engaged with them and therefore was "affiliated" with them, I didn't become "affiliated" with them and then like them because of that, that's putting the cart before the horse. I engage with any sort of posting that interest me, regardless of the poster, and 97% of posts here do not interest me in any way.Railey2 wrote:
you should compare dear kai99 to the ''i'm turning japanese''-sort of thread from the screenshot.Aurani wrote:
Are you actually TRYING to compare someone like Wojjan, the greatest of all shitposters, to something like "dear kai99", to name a random thread? Because that's the kind of shitposter I like, compared to a normal, mindless shitposter. Just because people like Wojjan existed, doesn't mean there weren't shitposters back then who are the same as the ones I'm talking about right now.
The ONLY side I stand on is my own side. I'm explaining my point of having a problem with people who REPEATEDLY (note the word - to answer Comfy's "yet you call them imbeciles") fail to contribute ANYTHING of note.
As for OT stinking less being a myth: "only 25% of people will be here after 4 years" - so if the other 75% are replaced with mindless turnips (it's just an example, chill your tits, since I already know that you want to take the number literally), compared to there being a 50-50 in the past, doesn't that prove that it's filthier now than it was before?
I personally think there were more serious and intelligent people active back then, and by that point I shall remain until you provide solid evidence for the contrary, in which case I'll change my opinion. Nostalgia has no play in it, as it's my rational conclusion after having been here for 4 and a half + 2 years.
And wojjan posted so much shit on here. SO much shit.
i don't need to explain to you how sides work, you're not autistic. But here you go anyway: if, in a discussion, you hold a view that is very similar to the views of a group of people, it makes sense to group you in with them in the context of the discussion and address the arguments of your ''group'' as a whole.
the numbers are just made up, take them as you wish.
The point is: How you view peoples posts depends greatly on what your affiliation to them is. That's not a secret, there are things like the Halo-effect, in-group out-group dynamics etc. The whole wide area of social psychology confirms that people tend to be biased in favor of people that they've known for longer and had personal relations with.
if those people disappear and get replaced with others, you'll feel left out in that new group and may even become bitter over what was lost.
its a normal process and people regularly fall for it, even though its so painfully unnecessary.
They weren't replaced with 75 percent mindless turnips, you're just bad at adjusting. Trust me when i say that its not the first time for me to notice this. it's happened in virtually every community i've been a part of, multiple times.
Your conclusion isn't rational, it's biased in favor of people you know and like.
Go find your own evidence. Talk to abraker, maybe, probably my favourite shitposter on here, or talk to https://osu.ppy.sh/u/lol
or talk to me, hell i count as a new user too, don't i?
the talking to yourself part was just a diss, guys please. its what you do when someone posts a reply thats not worth a proper response, but leaving it as is would feel weird so you do that.
Selfies are more than welcome in the Post you in real life thread in GD.Granger wrote:
Also do we have a selfie thread somewhere? I belive i never posted a pic of myself but im sure a few of those who still remain are curious about my looks as ever. My lifes better now as do i feel better about myself now, so im not as opposed to showing myself as i was before.
I meant more like "faces of OT" which we used to have, but sure i can post in GD. Not like it matters really.Madvillain wrote:
Selfies are more than welcome in the Post you in real life thread in GD.Granger wrote:
Also do we have a selfie thread somewhere? I belive i never posted a pic of myself but im sure a few of those who still remain are curious about my looks as ever. My lifes better now as do i feel better about myself now, so im not as opposed to showing myself as i was before.