B1rd wrote:
Yuudachi-kun wrote:
Are you gonna learn normal conjugation
Im here to stay
I dunno man, following the conjugation rule i used to right iku's past as iita.
Seems useful to know its irregular in that aspect
Last I heard it was my blog thread not yours. If you want one make your own. I'm OK if you want to teach me things like informal verb conjugation, but you''ll actually have to explain it so I can learn, rather than just stating some abstract sentences, or complain that I'm not learning the way you think I should.
You should already know the present standard tense of every verb because you have to use that to convert it to polite
Here is some list I made of an example verb with every possible ending.
食べる (Ends in -ru but is ichidan or as they would call it -ru)
In order to make ichidan verbs past, change the last る to た. In order to make them negative, change it to ない. Since negative verbs are all adjectives, it can be further conjugated like an adjective at this point. Adjectives change い to かった for the past tense so therefore the negative past of an ichidan verb will end with なかった。食べる -> 食べなかった
In order to make BOTH potential and passive form for ichidan verbs, replace the る with られる。食べられる
In order to make it causative, replace it with させる。食べさせる
In order to make te form, replace it with て。食べて
In order to make -tara and -tari, go to past tense and just add in that sound. 食べたら、食べたり
In order to make imperative, replace る with ろ。食べろ
In order to make renyoukei form (or as they would call it masu stem [not like that's the only use of this stem but they call it that because that's all beginners use it for]) just remove the る. 食べ
At this point I would like to note that when you make verbs like 食べられる (Let's assume passive so "to be eaten") this verb is ANOTHER ichidan verb in its entirety. If you want to make it negative, replace る with ない just like you would any other ichidan verb.
帰る (Ends in -ru but is godan or as they would call it -u)
孕む
呼ぶ
泳ぐ
打つ
死ぬ
聞く
洗う
濡らす
If you look closely at the word godan, you'll realise the go stands for 5. This is because there are 5 groups of endings for them.
く
ぐ
う、つ、る
ぬ、む、ぶ
す
Each one of these groups will have the same conjugation/sound change pattern.
For past tense the sound change goes like this:
く -> いた. 聞いた
ぐ -> いだ. 泳いだ
う、つ、る -> った. 洗った、打った、帰った
ぬ、む、ぶ -> んだ. 死んだ、孕んだ、呼んだ
す -> した. 濡らした
To get Te form for a godan verb, just use past tense and replace the -a sound with -e. So all the ta's will become te's. (Or you can learn te form and make past tense by converting all the -e's to -a's.)
In order to make negative godan verbs, change the last syllable to the -a sound equivalent and add nai.
聞かない
泳がない
洗わない、打たない 帰らない (NOTE HERE: For verbs that end in う you change the vowel toわ. For verbs that end in つ you change it to た)
死なない、孕まない、呼ばない
濡らさない
Negative past tense is handled just like past tense adjectives. Isn't that handy?
In order to make potential form, change the -u sound to it's -e equivalent and add reru.
聞ける
泳げる
洗える、打てる、帰れる
死ねる、孕める、呼べる、
濡らせる
NOTE HERE: All these sounds end in the -eru sound that you learned ichidan verbs tend to end in! That means whenever you make a godan verb into potential form, this potential form is an ichidan verb when referring to later or additional conjugations.
In order to make passive form change the -u sound to -a and add reru.
聞かれる
泳がれる
洗われる、打たれる,帰られる
死なれる、孕まれる、呼ばれる
濡らされる
Tara and tari work the same as before where you go to past tense and add the sound.
Imperative form works by changing the final -u sound to -e
聞け
泳げ
洗え、打て、帰れ
死ね、孕め、呼べ
濡らせ
The renyoukei stem is formed by chaing the final -u sound to -i
聞き
泳ぎ
洗い、打ち、帰り
死に、孕み、呼び
濡らし
Sometimes this forms nouns from the verbs!
I'll finish this after my project is done. Posting not to lose it.
