My interpretation of forum rules is this: provided you aren't literally spamming the forum and making it physically difficult for other people to view posts, or on a focused campaign to harass people, then you can post whatever you want; and people are free to be offended or not, and people are free to scroll past content that they don't want to see. If there were to be some major policy or rule change, I assumed that it could be decided in a democratic fashion with votes. And if people decided with a democratic vote that they wanted a safe space rather than a forum of free discussion, then I'd still leave, but at least I'd know that it was because the people there didn't share my ideals and values, rather than an arbitrary decision by IppE which is what happened.
One of the main reasons I advocated for the migration to Tuuba because I wanted a place of free discussion free from shitty moderators banning people and deleting posts for arbitrary reasons, and getting in the way of discussion which is the primary purpose of forums. Because I'm damned sick of having to save any of my posts that were somewhat controversial because otherwise they might be erased from existence by the 1984-ministry-of-truth-esque moderators.
So it isn't that I couldn't have just "posted in the other thread", which I could have done easily, it's because my ideals were violated in an egregious manner. The fact is, if you agree with IppE, you must also agree that people who are offended have the right to censor the speech of those who are offending them. Either that, or you agree that one person should have dictatorial control over the forum "because he owns the server".
Aurani wrote:
Well I've now seen the posts where IppE and Bird were talking about the thing. I still have no idea what Bird posted, but let me put it like this:
I'm COMPLETELY on IppE's side if Bird posted some shit that could start a discussion about politics. So basically something serious.
I'm COMPLETELY on Bird's side if Bird only posted a joke, because a joke that is political in nature is still just a joke and thus has no reason to be posted in its appropriate thread.
It all boils down to what the shit he posted to begin with. I agree that cooking stuff goes into the cooking thread and politics go into the place with politics, but ONLY if it's worth the time and dedication to be there. If I make a joke about Mahogany being homo, I should not need to make a fucking separate LGBT thread to say "Yo Maho mate, yer gay". It would be downright silly...
However, Bird would definitely have no defense against the decision for it to be deleted if he posted something along the lines of "Trump is gay and all his supporters should die because he wants to build a wall". That's not something lighthearted and definitely doesn't belong in ITT.
I strongly disagree, ITT has never just been for "lighthearted stuff", it's been for everything. And the most serious discussions have almost always happened in ITT. But if we accept that ITT should only be for lighthearted stuff, then why didn't I get to force people posting about LGBT or anything else to post in other threads? I didn't, therefore you can't justify the deletion by saying "you were just posting stuff in the wrong place"
If you want to see the post, here it is:
p/5602106