Tae wrote:

gottagof4ast wrote:

NM from queue

Easy

Even for an easy this SV is really slow so I would up it a bit. how so

00:17:999 (1,2,3,1) - You use this rythym way too much (slider, circle, circle, slider), change it up sometimes But it fits the vocals of the song...?

00:35:943 (1,2) - This is another pattern that comes up a bit too much (reverse slider into cirlce) ^

01:02:859 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - This is the worst offender of repeating patterns and its easy too see in the NC's ^

I get that you want this to be an easy difficulty but I would up the spacing in the whole song so you can also use more variation in your patterns
I would space the whole song again and change up some of the patterns so you can't predict whats going to come in the next 10 sec But, the song is pretty repetitive, so of course the rhythms are going to have the same sort of idea.

Normal

00:17:999 (1,2) - There is no reason for a gap here, the music is still playing even if the vocals are quiet for some time.

Except for the start there are no 1/1 sliders even though they make for variation and can reflcet the rythym better. I feel that you replaced alot of spots where 1/1 sliders were viable with 1/2 reverses, its a normal so there isn't a huge problem if some of the vocals on red ticks are not clickable. But there's sounds halfway through the sliders, so I should be using reverses on them...?

I feel like this has the same problem as the easy, although there are parts where the song reflects the music well namely 01:18:560 (1,2) and 01:29:775 (1,2) (where there is a small break), the map still feels the same during the whole song. It's a repetitive song, I can't really help that fact...

In short, implement some 1/1 sliders and don't feel forced to many reverse sliders

Hard

00:17:158 (3,4,5,6,7) - This is too intense for the start of the song and would maybe fit better in the chorus why? if it fits the vocals surely I should be mapping it?

00:19:962 (7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same here, these 1/4 gaps are way too difficult, especially the last 2 circles beacause the spacing make you think they are actually 1/2 gaps Fixed the spacing slightly, but still want to emphasise the last circle.

00:21:644 (7,8,9,10,11) - It doesn't feel like this follows the vocals It follows both the vocals and instruments for flow

00:24:168 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't get all these 1/4 gaps Following the vocals

I can repeat the above points on alot of spots but im going to skip these as it would take a while since the song is full of them

00:32:859 (2,3,4) - Weird spacing It's meant to be a fast motion from 3->4, because of the vocals.

00:33:700 (1,2,3,4,5) - Atleast make the stream flow from the slider What's wrong with the current pattern?

00:34:822 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ New lyric, so why?

00:36:504 (2,3,4,5,1) - Uneven spacing between all of these Emphasising the two sliders

00:39:588 (3) - You don't need a reverse slider here But that's how the vocals are...

00:40:429 (1,2,3,4) - I like that u try to make some variation in the song but here its not really done well, the 1/4 slider doesn't fit and 00:40:710 (2,3,4) should be spaced the same as 00:40:429 (1,2). the vocal is on the 1/4 slider... ...but fixed the spacing

00:41:831 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - If you really want the burst here, I would make it stop at 00:42:391 (9). but there's a sound on 10?

00:43:513 (3,4) - This overlap doesn't look nice Not really?

00:43:513 (3,6) - Overlap Fixed

00:44:915 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing issues Should be better now.

00:47:579 (2) - delete this note Why? I hear a sound.

00:47:999 (4,5,6,7) - Spacing doesnt reflect timing Fixed.

I could go on for the rest of the song as most of it just spacing that is way too hard for this diff like 00:52:766 (6,7,8,9) But that fits the song... or misleading spacing like 00:57:252 (3,4,5,6).
I would recommend this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1_HRo-lWWI (or if you have some time his entire playlist of these kinds of videos) and then try to respace the song according to the amount of gap in timing you leave inbetween. Please don't try to justify your explanation with pishi videos.

Gl with your map thanks

Endaris wrote:

inferno cop on roasting duty :cry:

Easy

00:17:439 (1) - Consider deleting this note. This is some kind of upbeat to the phrase that feels a bit too much considering the slow pacing of the map. Starting with the phrase on the downbeat is good enough imo. done

00:24:728 (1,2,1,2) - the first repeat bugs me a bit for the following reason: It changes the previously used pattern (probably due to lyrics) and drives attention that way. However, the second repeat slider is the much more important sound (start of the new vocal phrase and first downbeat in the set of 4 measures) and it has its spotlight stolen by the previous one because it merely repeats the pattern. I think you should pay more attention to the overall phrasing here as the difficulty is kept at a very easy level and you can't properly go in-depth on small details like the changing vocals here. The downbeat feels much stronger for me at least.
If you want to keep promoting 00:24:728 (1,2) - I would suggest changing 00:22:485 (1,2,3) - instead(maybe to all circles?) so that it contrasts the previous combo that has barely any vocals ^

00:53:887 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I am not sure about this part in terms of context. It is the most soft part of the song with many of the beats on 2 and 4 only being taken by the singer, yet the density is literally the same as in all other parts of the song. There are some details that can be highlighted, yes, but imo this is not the appropriate difficulty to do so
I'd do something like https://puu.sh/uS1rr/8b857dc16c.png which isn't very exciting but well, easy diffs ^

01:09:588 (1,2,3) - If you broke the slider-circle-circle pattern here the start of the kiai wouldn't feel as much as a repitition. As 01:10:710 (2,3) - also work as a leadin for the kiai a small deviation in the pattern it would also be perfectly justified imo. ^

The kiai itself does indeed feel kinda repititive but that's what the music does so it is fine.
I really like that you throw in stuff like 01:36:504 (1,2) - that makes it a lot more bearable. You should use that at 01:18:560 (1,2,3) - as well for consistency though. ^

if you want the roast to spread to the other diffs you have to tell me s-stop being right b-baka ><

DendyMudak wrote:

H e l l o T h e r e! oh no.

Miss You

00:02:298 (1,2) - this pattern is not similar to the first and next, copy this pattern 00:00:056 (1,2) and paste it.
00:06:784 (1,2) - if all these patterns following rotation principle, why this pattern is not horizontal to the first one?
00:17:158 (3,4,5,6,7) - there's don't need to be stream, there is no sound for it, even vocal don't have it
00:19:962 (7) - it's hard to see, but spacing need to be similar to 00:19:401 (5,6)
00:21:084 (5,6) - this is literally hard difficulty, don't make them singletap for players, mappers usually making 1/4 gaps stacked, but if song can afford it
00:25:570 (5,6) - ^ but now its stacked?!?!?
00:30:056 (3,4,5) - maybe slider?
00:32:579 (1,2,3) - hard difficulty still should teach players for different pattern mechanics, but this is truly hard to play and read, don't make it complicated, just stack them
00:33:140 (4) - ^
00:34:541 (5,1) - why is spacing now is larger than before? The sound is not changed.
00:52:766 (6,7,8,9) - hard to read for hard difficulty
00:55:289 (2,3) - no sound
01:26:130 (2,3) - why is this not blanket too?
01:31:457 (4,5) - bad blanket, this is not acceptable
01:50:242 (2) - replace to notes?
02:01:738 (2,4) - make spacing similar

Okey, now my opinion. I can understand that your map is following 1/4 spacing gimmicks, but, you forgetting that this is a hard difficulty, it don't need to be too much complicated, you have to make it suitable for players which will play it, even for DT farmers it will be too difficult. Your map is having a good variety of flows and structure, but please, have a tint that hard difficulty should be readable and teach players how to play different varieties of low bpm.

gl in further mapping

Kisses wrote:

wtf I was post #3 the other day, where did all these ppl come from? O.o i've been busy :thinking:

Miss You

1. 00:12:712 (4) - replace finish with whistle. I think this was a mistake but on the off chance it was intentional a finish isn't appropriate since there are really any distinct sounds that are supported by a finish nor is it any different from the other notes such as 00:07:906 (2,2,2) etc.
2. 00:17:999 (1) - add finish on head?
3. 00:21:224 (3) - making this into a 1/2 slider would not only map the held vocals that you've been doing with 00:20:242 (1,1) etc but it would also get rid of that slightly awkward pause.
4. 00:25:570 (5,6) - you've used different spacing here than you have at 00:24:728 (1,2). Recommend to keep the distances the same (at least visually). Inconsistencies such as these do affect cursor movement which is something you don't want to have if you aren't particularly emphasizing anything; they can also affect the general reading of your map, something you definitely do not want. You know how they teach you use consistent DS for easy and normal diffs for the sake of reading right? Well think of it similar to that. When you have the same rhythms, patterns use different spacings in lower diffs where doesn't seem to be a justifiable reason to it (e.g. something drastic in the song it can serve to throw players off.
   
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   Things about rhythm
   You like mapping to the vocals, which is a good thing especially for a song like this where they are very dominant over ever thing else but i feel like you could follow them more accurately in some places. As you've done some overmapping for the sake of simplifying the rhythm even though you've gone all out in places such as 00:19:962 (7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3) with the use of sliders on the held vocals so it makes me think that you want to go all out and map the vocals as accurately as you can. Not only that but adding shying away from the long 1/4 circle patterns would add more variety to the map (that doesn't mean that some of said patterns don't map the music accordingly)
   
   The places I think they could be improved would be places such as
5. 00:28:373 (4,5,6,7,8) - deleting 00:28:653 (6) would play cool since there isn't a vocal sound here
6. 00:27:813 (3) - a rhythm such as this http://puu.sh/uSxEf/865f2f7cfa.jpg or something similar would better capture the held vocal not. Though at the same time this is also one of those minor spots where you can gloss over it like you have done and map to the background music; I just wanted to state this anyways
7. 00:30:616 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - omitting 00:30:896 (6,9) would better reflect the vocal rhythm imo.
   Those are just some of the places, the vocals things are all in the verse, kiai time is fine.
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8. 00:43:513 (3,4,5) - I don't recommend overlaps such as in lower SR diffs as well as this map itself, it seems to go against the structure of the rest of your map which does break it down and look less appealing aesthetics wise
9. 00:47:579 (2,3,4) - You've used increase spacing for the 1/4 beats which is fine but you should also use the same increased spacing for 00:47:719 (3,4) else players will muddle up the entire pattern. I also believe that 00:47:999 (4) should have the same emphasis as 00:47:719 (3) spacing wise
10. 01:14:074 (1) - For a similar reason as to inconsistency thing earlier I recommend you to use 1x DS (or higher since this beat can be emphasized if you so please to do it) . On top of that I genuinely think it looks unappealing. This would apply to 01:32:018 (5) as well
11. 01:37:065 (2,3,4) - This rhythm is really un-intuitive, it also doesn't accurately follow what's going on in the music (i.e. having an active beat on 01:37:205). how about this rhythm? http://puu.sh/uSzxt/aa68e35ccf.jpg
12. 01:50:803 (1) - I'm kind of against this SV change. SV changes are normally when the music itself changes not the vocals (very rearely does the opposite happen) this is slightly because of the intuition of it. The main reason I'm against it is that the song itself is carrying on with the same intensity when you've dropped the SV. So yeah I would personally not have the SV lowered
13. 01:55:289 (3) - I feel like it would flow a lot smoother rhythmically to replace this with a circle and slider ( http://puu.sh/uSzTI/82cda40017.jpg ) or to just turn it into a repeat slider
14. 02:07:906 - add a timing point at the end of the spinner and reduce the volume to 5% and change it to soft sample

[]I see you've got the hang of hitsounding haha, sure such as claps on snares etc, but I still think it can be improved. I really want to make another post later explaining how and why. Catch you later!

Kisses wrote:

If you were just going to post that short sentence then you didn't need to quote the entire mod :p

makes it easier to navigate through the thread and doesn't kill ppl' mouse wheels

Firetruck wrote:

where is hard diff lol, miss you is literally insane

+ u should lower the volume of hitsounds its so loud D:

Firetruck wrote:

no u suck nuked lololobxdxddzd

Firetruck wrote:

meme

Firetruck wrote:

meme

Josefumi wrote:

Hello there, commin' from my queue!

Easy:
00:13:513 (1) - If you put the end on 00:16:878 It would be as nice i think there's something about this...
00:19:682 - Maybe a circle in here? the sound isn't really that significant/is more of a background sound
00:57:252 - What about this? <.<

for a slower section it'd probably best to keep a less dense rhythm
01:37:626 (2) - This looks nicer ...but doesn't that break DS?

Missed You
I think putting the stack leniency to 3, it fits much more a e s t h e t i c a l y (Note: Only do changes with "*" if you changed it) completely forgot this was a thing xd
00:19:962 (1,2,3) - Overlap 2 with 3 and put them looking at eachother aight ye
00:21:084 (4,5) - I recommend trying a full slider from 00:21:084 to 00:21:364 but... there's different sounds
* 00:22:485 (1) - Move it under 00:22:204 (10)
* 00:23:046 (2) - Move under 3
00:28:793 (7,8) - Stack together instead of spreading, it's confusing how...?
00:31:036 (6,7) - ^
01:02:579 (5,6) - Stack over 01:02:859 that looks p confusing tbh
* 01:25:289 (1) - Move under 01:24:168 (3)
01:46:317 (3) - Instead of b i g slider try slider retur stream b-but muh vocal

Nice mapset! Good luck
Namjoon stan here o.o/

Behonkiss wrote:

Liked the sound of this song, so here's a mod.

Easy:
00:24:168 (5): Make this a new combo instead of the slider after it. The pause before it calls for that. yeah, I agree
01:03:981 (2): Feels weird that this is the only section to use the default whistle sound effect. It's weird... but it kinda fits too, I guess?

Josefumi wrote:

Lapi's Hard
I recommend putting a lower AR Why? It's already too low.
00:15:756 (1) - Spinner conflics with the next slider, im my opinion is too close and too fast. Pretty sure it's fine, considering the fact that it's a hard difficulty.
00:50:523 - What about this for a slider form? Looks nice, but I want to keep mine.

01:03:981 (5,6,7) - Too cloose with eachother, try to separate them a little bit I'm following DS here.
01:06:504 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This part is kinda overmapped, I recommend adjusting a slower pace on 01:07:766 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) I'm following the beats in the background, meaning that these are not overmapped, they're completely fine as long as they follow the beats.
01:23:887 (4,5) - Jump too big, try to avoid these without an excuse I want a proper reason for this. Saying "try to avoid these without an excuse" is kinda of rude.
01:41:831 (2,3) - ^ .
01:49:682 (4,1) - ^!!!! .
01:54:168 (4,1) - ^ .
01:54:448 (1,2) - Not so much of a big gap, but I recommend adjusting it. .
02:01:177 (1) - Missed sample

Behonkiss wrote:

Lapis' Hard:
01:02:859 (1): This new combo placement feels especially weird. There's a downbeat here, and every NC starts at downbeat, so I'm keeping it.

Josefumi wrote:

Firetruck's Normal

01:11:831 (1) - Missed sample (Clap)
01:16:317 (1) - ^
01:18:560 (1) - ^
01:29:775 (1) - ^
01:34:261 (1) - ^
01:36:504 (1) - ^
01:43:233 (1) - ^
01:45:476 (1) - ^
01:52:205 (1) - ^
01:54:448 (1) - ^
01:56:691 (1) - ^
02:01:738 (2) - ^
02:05:102 (3) - ^

cosmiccc wrote:

lapis' hard

00:51:364 - I feel like there should be a circle here bc there's no pause in instrumentals or vocals Sure.
01:06:925 (7,8) - imo this part would work better w/ a circle at 01:06:504, and a two beat slider at 01:06:784. Bc the current rhythm there feels weird to play and kinda off but that could be just me If you listen carefully at 01:06:504, there's a hold in his vocals, and I used a slider here to emphasise that. So I'm keeping this rhythm.
01:38:747 (1) - Random Hitsound? Don't think so.

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cosmiccc wrote:

missing you

00:13:513 - personally preference, think there should be a spinner here to the downbeat before the first slider alright, yeah
00:17:579 (6) - These 1/4 beats are following the vocals but 6 doesn't belong bc no vocal or prominent sound is hear on that beat what about the "s" sound

1. 00:21:644 (6,7,8,9,10) - Same w/ 9 here but the "sh" sound?

00:20:383 (2) - doesn't represent any sound and is weird playing imo yeah, I'll remove it
00:30:056 (3) - repeat doesn't serve any purpose it goes with the vocal, like na-neun
01:07:766 (2) - unnecessary imo bc there is no sound it represents, and doesn't serve as good filler either but there's an instrument here which is mapped later on as well
02:01:738 (2,3) and 02:05:102 (1,2) represent the vocals but the vocals lose emphasis at 02:02:579 (4,5,1,2,3,4) bc these notes are just following the beat. Kinda breaks the flow imo and u should stick to mapping one or the other it's meant to gradually decrease in spacing to represent the slowing nature of the song, idk it works in my mind...
the spacing in general is a little weird bc sometimes 1/4 beats will be touching but when they aren't touching they look like the 1/2 spacing, so playing isn't always as intuitive as I feel like it should be yeah... i do emphasise a few things with spacing

ok that's all, hope it's helpful & ty for ur mod again thank you!

1. Add a fe w more tags like Bangtan Boys and Bangtans just in case somebody tries to use them.
2. Metadata is correct, as we've already discussed that. link
3. The hitsounds feel really loud in general. Pobably should be 15-30% quiter.

1. 01:20:803 (1,2,3) - this combo definitely stands out in terms of length and consistency. You might want to look into it to make sure it works as intended.
2. 01:36:504 (1,2) - that'd be cool if these two were using identical shapes, sort of like 01:32:018 (1,1) - this way the patterning would feel more structured.
   Note: 01:51:084 (2,4) - again, similar shapes could make the part feel more structured.
3. 01:47:719 - I would really prefer this to be an individual circle. As a matter of fact, 01:46:598 (2) - I would probably just replace each of the beats with a circle, the vocals here feel pretty interesting and so do the drums.
4. 01:49:962 (1) - minor - overlaps with the HP bar, probably should be higher as to prevent that from happening.
   
   Just a few visual things. I actually think it's a pretty cool difficulty.

1. 00:28:373 - shouldn't there be somethimg as both vocals and drums feel pretty powerful. Probably a circle or at least a reverse from the previous slider?
   Note: 00:43:794 - same. Perhaps this, plus, the 3/2 gap feels a bit forced.
2. 00:49:401 (1,2) - I doubt this is spaced intentionally as there is nothing to justify the change and it doesn't look consistent at all.
3. 01:14:074 (1) - splitting it into a 1/1 slider and a circle would match the rhythm better and feel more consistent in general. See 01:16:317 (1,2,3) - for example.
   Note: 01:32:018 (1) - same.
   
   Kind of a shame there's no spinner. But everything else is neat, I like it.

• 
  We've done an IRC check, fixed a number of jumps. The rest was pretty.
  
  IRC log

  16:21 Lapis Aoki: Hana didn't update my diff, sec
  16:21 Lapis Aoki: http://puu.sh/w9wUk.osz
  16:22 Bakari: Okay, let me scan through general stuff
  16:23 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1244096 BTS - Spring Day [Lapis' Hard]]
  16:23 Bakari: 00:15:756 (1,1) - are you sure about having only 1/2 beat of recovery time?
  16:25 Lapis Aoki: I've got some complains about this before. But since this is a hard diff, I thought it was okay.
  16:25 Bakari: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8250624 try something like this
  16:25 Lapis Aoki: I'll remove it, since I can't end it anywhere else-
  16:25 Bakari: oh, okay then
  16:26 Bakari: 00:20:242 (1,2) - 00:29:214 (1,2) - these two feel similar, yet spacing is very different
  16:27 Bakari: I'd probably remove the jump on the first pattern
  16:28 Lapis Aoki: https://puu.sh/w9x7F.jpg
  16:28 Bakari: yeah, it's cool
  16:29 Bakari: 00:39:027 (2,3) - i like the way 2-3 jump feels, but isn't (2) strong as well?
  16:29 Bakari: probably something like https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/CYphBtFU.jpg this
  16:32 Lapis Aoki: 00:39:027 - has the same sound as 00:30:056 - and there's no jump in here
  16:32 Lapis Aoki: pretty much like the same point you mentioned
  16:33 Bakari: oh, i see
  16:33 Bakari: 00:47:158 (1,3) - btw, are you sure about this pattern?
  16:33 Bakari: it looks different from the rest of the things
  16:35 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/TpXrnp42.jpg probably something like this?
  16:35 Lapis Aoki: I'm pretty sure it's fine, plus I like the visuals of this pattern
  16:35 Lapis Aoki: but if you have another pattern in mind, then show me some
  16:35 Bakari: it felt like the stack/overlap thingy stood out
  16:36 Lapis Aoki: https://puu.sh/w9xmv.jpg
  16:36 Bakari: yeah, why not
  16:36 Bakari: I'm happy with any kind of pattern that you like \o/
  16:37 Lapis Aoki: Alrighty
  16:37 Bakari: 01:04:822 - the 3/4 thingy feels sort of out of sync and there's definitely vocal here, so, let's add a circle?
  16:38 Bakari: obv, the vocal is alos supported with the drums
  16:40 Bakari: 01:06:224 (5,6) - also, let's try to ctrl+g these two, I have a feeling this would represent the song better
  16:40 Bakari: also, that'd give us one more 1/4 double, and doubles here feel relaly cool
  16:42 Bakari: I guess 01:15:196 (4,5,1) - 01:19:682 (3,4,1) - these are based on vocals and you intentionally don't stress (1), right?
  16:42 Lapis Aoki: https://puu.sh/w9xA3.jpg
  16:43 Lapis Aoki: also about the previous point
  16:43 Lapis Aoki: http://puu.sh/w9xB3.jpg
  16:43 Bakari: looks sweet
  16:44 Bakari: 01:29:775 (1,2,3) - what about this jump, though. it feels sort of like the first one that we've nerfed
  16:45 Bakari: the rest is okay, it's just a few things about the jumps
  16:45 Lapis Aoki: How about this one then? https://puu.sh/w9xE9.jpg
  16:45 Bakari: (3) has some vocals going on and feels pretty valueable, I can see that pattern working, sure
  16:46 Lapis Aoki: Yep, (1) (2) has some high notes, then (3) has soft vocals
  16:48 Bakari: so yeah, just check it once again to make sure everything works as you intended it after the changes
  16:49 Lapis Aoki: Alright

• 
  We did a few things, changed some patterns to flow and look better.
  
  IRC log

  20:12 Tae: touch my butt~
  20:12 Bakari: sure <3
  20:12 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1226410 BTS - Spring Day [Missing You]]
  20:14 Bakari: 00:22:204 (9,1,2,3) - can you explain why the spacing gradually increases here?
  20:15 Bakari: I'd rather go for 9-1 being a strong jump
  20:15 Bakari: then 1-2 being a jump but less intense
  20:15 Tae: yeah, igy
  20:15 Bakari: and then regular ds to match the instruments
  20:15 Tae: ah, yeah
  20:16 Bakari: oh, and are you sure about the intro being so heavy in terms of 1/4s?
  20:17 Bakari: I'd probably use more sliders than circles for the sake of spread
  20:17 Bakari: besides, kiai feels pretty easy when compared with the intro
  20:18 Tae: yeah
  20:18 Tae: im willing to tone it down on the 1/4 in some areas, but I feel it fits in other areas
  20:18 Bakari: it definitely works well with the rapping
  20:18 Tae: 00:24:168 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - for example, i'd be happy to put some more sliders here
  20:18 Bakari: yeah, that's the kind of stuff that'd benefit from having more sliders
  20:19 Bakari: also, the 1/4 spacing at times is pretty hard to read
  20:19 Bakari: and spacing in general as well
  20:19 Bakari: 00:19:962 (1,2,3) - for example the change here
  20:20 Tae: yeah
  20:20 Tae: ah, if 1 goes down, and 2 goes up, that could work better?
  20:20 Bakari: my main concern is patterns like 00:45:336 (3,4,5) - 00:49:822 (3,4,5,6) -
  20:21 Bakari: anything goes, as long as you feel like a player can understand and feel the spacing changes
  20:21 Tae: https://puu.sh/w9FZa/30a530bd10.png like this, for example?
  20:21 Bakari: yeah, this looks great
  20:22 Bakari: 00:52:205 (4,5) - 00:53:186 (9,10) - 00:58:373 (1,2) - have a look at these things
  20:22 Bakari: 00:58:373 (1,2) - 00:59:495 (4,5,6) - or maybe at these, this is a more noticeable contrast
  20:22 Tae: yeah
  20:22 Bakari: i see tha you try to do cool stuff with the spacings
  20:22 Tae: the first should definitely be more spaced than the second
  20:23 Bakari: probably you could play with the stacks as well
  20:23 Bakari: but keep in mind that stacks should also be consistent
  20:23 Tae: yeah
  20:25 Bakari: in terms of rhythm this whole thing is pretty good, by the way
  20:25 Bakari: but i'm not so sure about your flow
  20:25 Tae: that's good to know
  20:25 Bakari: 00:40:570 (2,3,4,5) - this seems to be linear flow, but then it suddenly breaks
  20:25 Tae: yeah, i do struggle with flow above everything else
  20:26 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/GV50RsqS.jpg
  20:26 Bakari: probably something of the kind?
  20:26 Tae: yeah, that looks better if 4/5 is flipped
  20:28 Bakari: 00:36:504 (2,3,4) - this isn't a bad pattern, but your flow appears to be mostly linear.
  20:28 Bakari: so, it sort of stands out
  20:29 Bakari: probably something closer to this https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/3isJjeGc.jpg
  20:29 Bakari: or if you like the existing pattern, introduce something similar in a few more parts
  20:30 Tae: yeah
  20:30 Bakari: 01:06:784 (7,8,1) - i don't feel this pattern in the song, let me explain why
  20:31 Bakari: a) (1) is stressed less than (8), which is quite strange considering the fact that (1) is actually stronger
  20:32 Bakari: b) the pattern on its own is sort of unfinished, there's a lot of empty space and it just feels somewhat random
  20:33 Tae: hm, yeah
  20:33 Bakari: if we could use spacing more freely, sometihng like https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/1GFse1sv.jpg this would be perfect
  20:33 Tae: o, that looks good
  20:33 Tae: lemme try that
  20:33 Bakari: i personally think that the pattern i showed looks better because it has a finished idea
  20:34 Bakari: i make 7-8 symmetrical
  20:34 Bakari: and keep the flow somewhat linear
  20:34 Bakari: probably we could try a ner'd version like https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/2KdI3k55.jpg this
  20:36 Tae: https://puu.sh/w9GzQ/dbf68052b0.png yeah, I think I managed to do it, that flows well, thanks
  20:37 Bakari: just introduce a few more patterns like this (spacing/flow)
  20:37 Bakari: so it'd feel like a part of your style, rather than a single fix
  20:38 Tae: yeah
  20:38 Bakari: 01:24:728 (4,1) - this doesn't really flow, I think
  20:38 Bakari: i mean, it does, but it works differently than the rest of the patterns
  20:38 Bakari: there's a pretty sharp angle between 4 and 1
  20:38 Tae: ctrl+g on 4, maybe?
  20:38 Bakari: then 3-4 goes weird :p
  20:39 Tae: hm
  20:40 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/0tCkHjxk.jpg 120 degrees rotation, perhaps?
  20:41 Bakari: and the rest would look like this https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/S4Vejz2a.jpg
  20:43 Bakari: 01:29:214 (4,1,2,3) - similar pattern/flow thingy https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/dOnSi1vW.jpg
  20:43 Bakari: 01:35:943 (5,1) - and this'd be the last one, i believe
  20:46 Tae: alright, fixed those now
  20:46 Bakari: I guess that's about it
  20:46 Bakari: just the spacings/flow

Bakari wrote:

Hey!

[General]

1. Add a fe w more tags like Bangtan Boys and Bangtans just in case somebody tries to use them. yep, added a few more tags as mentioned... im not too sure about "Bangtans" though...?
2. Metadata is correct, as we've already discussed that. link
3. The hitsounds feel really loud in general. Pobably should be 15-30% quiter. I believe I adjusted this before we had our irc discussion

[Easy]

1. 01:20:803 (1,2,3) - this combo definitely stands out in terms of length and consistency. You might want to look into it to make sure it works as intended. aa, fixed the ncs
2. 01:36:504 (1,2) - that'd be cool if these two were using identical shapes, sort of like 01:32:018 (1,1) - this way the patterning would feel more structured. yup
   Note: 01:51:084 (2,4) - again, similar shapes could make the part feel more structured. think these are more similar
3. 01:47:719 - I would really prefer this to be an individual circle. alright. As a matter of fact, 01:46:598 (2) - I would probably just replace each of the beats with a circle, the vocals here feel pretty interesting and so do the drums. hm... I think the vocal itself calls for a slider as it's a continuous sound
4. 01:49:962 (1) - minor - overlaps with the HP bar, probably should be higher as to prevent that from happening. adjusted because of the issue above
   
   Just a few visual things. I actually think it's a pretty cool difficulty.

[Missing You]

• 
  We did a few things, changed some patterns to flow and look better. should be better now
  
  IRC log

  20:12 Tae: touch my butt~
  20:12 Bakari: sure <3
  20:12 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1226410 BTS - Spring Day [Missing You]]
  20:14 Bakari: 00:22:204 (9,1,2,3) - can you explain why the spacing gradually increases here?
  20:15 Bakari: I'd rather go for 9-1 being a strong jump
  20:15 Bakari: then 1-2 being a jump but less intense
  20:15 Tae: yeah, igy
  20:15 Bakari: and then regular ds to match the instruments
  20:15 Tae: ah, yeah
  20:16 Bakari: oh, and are you sure about the intro being so heavy in terms of 1/4s?
  20:17 Bakari: I'd probably use more sliders than circles for the sake of spread
  20:17 Bakari: besides, kiai feels pretty easy when compared with the intro
  20:18 Tae: yeah
  20:18 Tae: im willing to tone it down on the 1/4 in some areas, but I feel it fits in other areas
  20:18 Bakari: it definitely works well with the rapping
  20:18 Tae: 00:24:168 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - for example, i'd be happy to put some more sliders here
  20:18 Bakari: yeah, that's the kind of stuff that'd benefit from having more sliders
  20:19 Bakari: also, the 1/4 spacing at times is pretty hard to read
  20:19 Bakari: and spacing in general as well
  20:19 Bakari: 00:19:962 (1,2,3) - for example the change here
  20:20 Tae: yeah
  20:20 Tae: ah, if 1 goes down, and 2 goes up, that could work better?
  20:20 Bakari: my main concern is patterns like 00:45:336 (3,4,5) - 00:49:822 (3,4,5,6) -
  20:21 Bakari: anything goes, as long as you feel like a player can understand and feel the spacing changes
  20:21 Tae: https://puu.sh/w9FZa/30a530bd10.png like this, for example?
  20:21 Bakari: yeah, this looks great
  20:22 Bakari: 00:52:205 (4,5) - 00:53:186 (9,10) - 00:58:373 (1,2) - have a look at these things
  20:22 Bakari: 00:58:373 (1,2) - 00:59:495 (4,5,6) - or maybe at these, this is a more noticeable contrast
  20:22 Tae: yeah
  20:22 Bakari: i see tha you try to do cool stuff with the spacings
  20:22 Tae: the first should definitely be more spaced than the second
  20:23 Bakari: probably you could play with the stacks as well
  20:23 Bakari: but keep in mind that stacks should also be consistent
  20:23 Tae: yeah
  20:25 Bakari: in terms of rhythm this whole thing is pretty good, by the way
  20:25 Bakari: but i'm not so sure about your flow
  20:25 Tae: that's good to know
  20:25 Bakari: 00:40:570 (2,3,4,5) - this seems to be linear flow, but then it suddenly breaks
  20:25 Tae: yeah, i do struggle with flow above everything else
  20:26 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/GV50RsqS.jpg
  20:26 Bakari: probably something of the kind?
  20:26 Tae: yeah, that looks better if 4/5 is flipped
  20:28 Bakari: 00:36:504 (2,3,4) - this isn't a bad pattern, but your flow appears to be mostly linear.
  20:28 Bakari: so, it sort of stands out
  20:29 Bakari: probably something closer to this https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/3isJjeGc.jpg
  20:29 Bakari: or if you like the existing pattern, introduce something similar in a few more parts
  20:30 Tae: yeah
  20:30 Bakari: 01:06:784 (7,8,1) - i don't feel this pattern in the song, let me explain why
  20:31 Bakari: a) (1) is stressed less than (8), which is quite strange considering the fact that (1) is actually stronger
  20:32 Bakari: b) the pattern on its own is sort of unfinished, there's a lot of empty space and it just feels somewhat random
  20:33 Tae: hm, yeah
  20:33 Bakari: if we could use spacing more freely, sometihng like https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/1GFse1sv.jpg this would be perfect
  20:33 Tae: o, that looks good
  20:33 Tae: lemme try that
  20:33 Bakari: i personally think that the pattern i showed looks better because it has a finished idea
  20:34 Bakari: i make 7-8 symmetrical
  20:34 Bakari: and keep the flow somewhat linear
  20:34 Bakari: probably we could try a ner'd version like https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/2KdI3k55.jpg this
  20:36 Tae: https://puu.sh/w9GzQ/dbf68052b0.png yeah, I think I managed to do it, that flows well, thanks
  20:37 Bakari: just introduce a few more patterns like this (spacing/flow)
  20:37 Bakari: so it'd feel like a part of your style, rather than a single fix
  20:38 Tae: yeah
  20:38 Bakari: 01:24:728 (4,1) - this doesn't really flow, I think
  20:38 Bakari: i mean, it does, but it works differently than the rest of the patterns
  20:38 Bakari: there's a pretty sharp angle between 4 and 1
  20:38 Tae: ctrl+g on 4, maybe?
  20:38 Bakari: then 3-4 goes weird :p
  20:39 Tae: hm
  20:40 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/0tCkHjxk.jpg 120 degrees rotation, perhaps?
  20:41 Bakari: and the rest would look like this https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/S4Vejz2a.jpg
  20:43 Bakari: 01:29:214 (4,1,2,3) - similar pattern/flow thingy https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/dOnSi1vW.jpg
  20:43 Bakari: 01:35:943 (5,1) - and this'd be the last one, i believe
  20:46 Tae: alright, fixed those now
  20:46 Bakari: I guess that's about it
  20:46 Bakari: just the spacings/flow

I feel like the set is pretty cool, but it definitely can and should get better before we push it any further. Remind me to stick around and get back to it some time later Will do!