B1rd wrote:

Defending Dawnsday is super easy to rationalise as scum. I mean lots of things are D1, but it's that in combination with other things. You can't just blame all your problems on RL things, firstly, you knew when you joined the game that it would be a commitment. And really, it only takes like an hour a day to be completely up to date with the game. You can't spare that? It's just weak excuses. If you really couldn't spare enough time to play the game you should have just replaced yourself.

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

You where town reading wisdom and I was town reading GE we where just disagreeing on the reasoning we used we still agreed on those reads.

Agreeing on reads isn't really a scum tell either. aren't YOU a player that sees that as a town tell anyway? Like didn't you town read Aero for having the same reads you did even though his reads came after yours.

It was the opposite, you gave TR on Wisdom because "lol not reading thread"
Yes, but i see something different with you, it's been idk... something bothering me ever since i saw your reads list

Frostings wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

I will post later after I get clam down since those two quote makes me get emotional and just realized I do nothing.starting to read for to first day.

I really hope that got lost in translation

Hika wrote:

Abraker, why u defending me fam

Sakura wrote:

So one thing still bothers me about beeboy and it's the fact that he came only to defend himself, he didnt comment on anything else that happened.

Sakura wrote:

I think we need to start consolidating soon

B1rd wrote:

I still want to lynch beeboy. But Jess or beeboy, at this point I just want to lynch someone.

rEdo wrote:

@beeboy:
a) Gimme reasons to think Jess is scum.
b) Why would you beetlejuice? You literally showed up when the wagon shifted from Jess to you, and you just said your vote sits on Jess without a proper explanation. I pretty much second everything that Sakura have said to this point.

Unvote
Vote: beeboy123 (this is L-2)

rEdo wrote:

B1rd, why beeboy over Jess?

rEdo wrote:

Frosty, abraker? Are you here?

rEdo wrote:

The reason I started the beeboy wagon was because I thought this can't be this simple and that we need to make out the most of today as possible, but in the end it seems like we need that flip.

B1rd wrote:

rEdo wrote:

The reason I started the beeboy wagon was because I thought this can't be this simple and that we need to make out the most of today as possible, but in the end it seems like we need that flip.

Before you said that Jess was 90% gonna flip town, did you change your mind or was it just to pressure beeboy? Because I was willing to trust your read and go off the assumption that Jess was town, at least until we get the first scum. Because while there is a chance that Jess is scum, it's also a good possibility that she's just an easy scapegoat to divert votes from scum and get them one day closer to their win condition.

Zexion wrote:

Votecount 1.4 (D1 Final)
Dawnsday [5] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika, -[Jess]- (LYNCH)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Dawnsday, Sakura, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

1. If Jess flips town: I don't like to repeat myself, but like I said, beeboy is 99% scum if that's the case. I will also point a FoS from the grave on Frostings. I mean, look at the D1 votecount. I'm not exactly sure about Hika, but my gut tells me she's town. As for beeboy's partner, um, I see abraker as his most possible partner.
2. If Jess flips scum: If I were still in the game I would cry over my existence because of not being able to read the game properly, but hey, that's Jess we're dealing with. I'm not really sure who could be her partner, but considering her reads from D1, abraker and/or Frostings would make me worry. However, that would make beeboy pretty much town because he wouldn't push his scumpartner just in order to save himself (unless WIFOM). I believe that ike literally everything that happens after that flip is going to heavily rely on what you guys are gonna do in the following day.

Sakura wrote:

Regardless now it's very true rEdo was shot N1 and it's about time i go and re-read D1 to figure out why.

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy
Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy
Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost

X is town game = lost
X is scum game = deserve to lose

Very much bs scum tend to say in lylo.

beeboy123 wrote:

I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.

beeboy123 wrote:

She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.

What wagon speed did i neglect? Im fairly sure all wagons that have formed here have been slow with the exception of yours, which was a way to make you come in and contribute, and all you did was come and complain about my read and b1rd's on you instead of commenting on anything else that had happened

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.

Meanwhile, you've been pretty much lurking it out all of D2, and didnt comment on anything that happened other than your read on Jess or my read on you.

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

beeboy123 wrote:

Did you forget you completely neglected dawnsday being lynched in 3 days with the only player fighting against the wagon being myself?
I mean your read on me was complete garbage you just said abunch of things that don't line up with anything you know about me as a player and b1rd just ignored my scum hunting and said I wasn't doing it.

beeboy123 wrote:

Given how the only people you haven't tried to push to lynch are frosting and b1rd and frosting is really unlikely to be scum b1rd is probably just your scum buddy.

beeboy123 wrote:

ast night I basically came to the realization yours and b1rds push on me is the same as the push pie and muffin made on me in PCB mafia where you just argue I am not scum hunting while ignoring all my scum hunting because I don't have strong or confident reads as town. What you are b1rd are doing is the same shit zmuffin and pie did.

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean I have literally never seen you play so aggressively before and considering how you say your town hunting falls apart as scum that's why your play changed. You did literally nothing day 1 because you couldn't town hunt as scum so you started to hard push people like nothing I have ever seen before.

Sakura wrote:

Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You literally only aggressively push me and that is the case across all our games for w/e reason you have to do