rEdo wrote:

@beeboy:
a) Gimme reasons to think Jess is scum.
b) Why would you beetlejuice? You literally showed up when the wagon shifted from Jess to you, and you just said your vote sits on Jess without a proper explanation. I pretty much second everything that Sakura have said to this point.

Unvote
Vote: beeboy123 (this is L-2)

rEdo wrote:

B1rd, why beeboy over Jess?

rEdo wrote:

Frosty, abraker? Are you here?

rEdo wrote:

The reason I started the beeboy wagon was because I thought this can't be this simple and that we need to make out the most of today as possible, but in the end it seems like we need that flip.

B1rd wrote:

rEdo wrote:

The reason I started the beeboy wagon was because I thought this can't be this simple and that we need to make out the most of today as possible, but in the end it seems like we need that flip.

Before you said that Jess was 90% gonna flip town, did you change your mind or was it just to pressure beeboy? Because I was willing to trust your read and go off the assumption that Jess was town, at least until we get the first scum. Because while there is a chance that Jess is scum, it's also a good possibility that she's just an easy scapegoat to divert votes from scum and get them one day closer to their win condition.

Zexion wrote:

Votecount 1.4 (D1 Final)
Dawnsday [5] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika, -[Jess]- (LYNCH)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Dawnsday, Sakura, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

1. If Jess flips town: I don't like to repeat myself, but like I said, beeboy is 99% scum if that's the case. I will also point a FoS from the grave on Frostings. I mean, look at the D1 votecount. I'm not exactly sure about Hika, but my gut tells me she's town. As for beeboy's partner, um, I see abraker as his most possible partner.
2. If Jess flips scum: If I were still in the game I would cry over my existence because of not being able to read the game properly, but hey, that's Jess we're dealing with. I'm not really sure who could be her partner, but considering her reads from D1, abraker and/or Frostings would make me worry. However, that would make beeboy pretty much town because he wouldn't push his scumpartner just in order to save himself (unless WIFOM). I believe that ike literally everything that happens after that flip is going to heavily rely on what you guys are gonna do in the following day.

Sakura wrote:

Regardless now it's very true rEdo was shot N1 and it's about time i go and re-read D1 to figure out why.

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy
Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy
Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost

X is town game = lost
X is scum game = deserve to lose

Very much bs scum tend to say in lylo.

beeboy123 wrote:

I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.

beeboy123 wrote:

She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.

What wagon speed did i neglect? Im fairly sure all wagons that have formed here have been slow with the exception of yours, which was a way to make you come in and contribute, and all you did was come and complain about my read and b1rd's on you instead of commenting on anything else that had happened

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.

Meanwhile, you've been pretty much lurking it out all of D2, and didnt comment on anything that happened other than your read on Jess or my read on you.

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

beeboy123 wrote:

Did you forget you completely neglected dawnsday being lynched in 3 days with the only player fighting against the wagon being myself?
I mean your read on me was complete garbage you just said abunch of things that don't line up with anything you know about me as a player and b1rd just ignored my scum hunting and said I wasn't doing it.

beeboy123 wrote:

Given how the only people you haven't tried to push to lynch are frosting and b1rd and frosting is really unlikely to be scum b1rd is probably just your scum buddy.

beeboy123 wrote:

ast night I basically came to the realization yours and b1rds push on me is the same as the push pie and muffin made on me in PCB mafia where you just argue I am not scum hunting while ignoring all my scum hunting because I don't have strong or confident reads as town. What you are b1rd are doing is the same shit zmuffin and pie did.

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean I have literally never seen you play so aggressively before and considering how you say your town hunting falls apart as scum that's why your play changed. You did literally nothing day 1 because you couldn't town hunt as scum so you started to hard push people like nothing I have ever seen before.

Sakura wrote:

Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You literally only aggressively push me and that is the case across all our games for w/e reason you have to do

beeboy123 wrote:

I have still never seen you treat other players (ie Hika and Jess) that way before.

beeboy123 wrote:

Your own words is you solve via town hunting and that falls apart as scum.
Those are your words and all your play suggests against town hunting this game.

You literally just don't know how to play as scum with your new play style and it shows this game.

Sakura wrote:

Like Street fighter mafia am i right?

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

Your own words is you solve via town hunting and that falls apart as scum.
Those are your words and all your play suggests against town hunting this game.

You literally just don't know how to play as scum with your new play style and it shows this game.

My own words is that i am more disinterested and disconnected from games as scum.
You can ask this to ANYONE that knows my meta.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Like Street fighter mafia am i right?

You did all of street fighter mafia through POE and VCA you pressured other people 0 times.

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

I have still never seen you treat other players (ie Hika and Jess) that way before.

Because i totally didnt out of Magical Girl mafia because i couldnt WotC Jess
Because you've totally never seen me make a case on someone else? Oh right i made a case on you in pieguyn game.

beeboy123 wrote:

You aren't town hunting there is a drastic change in your play style this game despite the fact you spent day 1 arguing you where town hunting.

Sakura wrote:

All you're doing is bringing up "meta"
It is already proven that your meta assesment is BS.
So what's left?
This game.

Sakura wrote:

Not to mention there's also Tarot where i made a case on Wisdom on D2.
There's also EoSD where i started pushing ppl hard even on D1 after townthunting for a bit.

Again your meta assesment is BS.
If you're really not scum, then you gotta start looking elsewhere and prove to us that you're town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

beeboy123 wrote:

It's the same bullshit pie and zmuffin where spouting that you and b1rd are saying this game

Sakura wrote:

You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Compared to your full hearted commitments of trying to lynch anyone you can?
And all your full hearted day 1 play?

I was getting what I wanted in terms of the Jess why would I need to pressure Hika?
Why would I be scum like you and just push anyone I can when I can push my top scum read.

Sakura wrote:

You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.

I gave my reads based on everything that had happened, I dont like catching up as town so I didn't reply to everything because what is the point of you have my reads and you very much just would lynxh everyone which is much worse then "vote parking" or w/e scum bs you are pushing

Sakura wrote:

So apparently i push everyone i can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You keep singing the same melody, maybe someone will believe you.

>Everyone
I guess someone here doesnt know what "Everyone" means.