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Hika
I don't care who hammer tbh just write what you think and declare intent to hammer
rEdo
If Jess self-hammers and flips town I will *REDACTED*
Hika
TBH
B1rd

rEdo wrote:

B1rd, why beeboy over Jess?
It's that I think beeboy is scum, but with Jess it's more I think she might be scum, but I'm not really sure. I'm fine with voting Jess too, but that's more of a conservative option, I'd prefer to go with my scumreads.

Welp, seems that it has swung back to a Jess lynch after all, I'm fine with hammering when everyone's ready.
rEdo
The reason I started the beeboy wagon was because I thought this can't be this simple and that we need to make out the most of today as possible, but in the end it seems like we need that flip.
Sakura
I'm hammering within 1 hour if no one has any objections.
rEdo
Frosty, abraker? Are you here?
abraker

rEdo wrote:

Frosty, abraker? Are you here?
Yea just watching this conclude. Have no objections, though I really wish Jess posted more
rEdo
Since Frosty's vote on Jess already, abraker has no objections and both Sakura and B1rd declared their intent to hammer, I think we can end the day.

It's 2 AM and I'm taking a bus to my parents' house and it's time for me to take some sleep at once. Once I wake up, I want to see the flip.

Hammer's on the table.
rEdo
Oh, and I'm pretty sure I'm dead, so good luck town.
B1rd
hold up for a sec
Topic Starter
Zexion
I would really like to add some flavor to this game

Votecount 2.9
-[Jess]- [4] - beeboy123, Frostings, rEdo, Hika (L-1)
beeboy123 [2] - Sakura, B1rd,
Frostings [1] - abraker
Hika [0] -
rEdo [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
B1rd [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [1] - -[Jess]-
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Please tell me if you see any mistakes.
Day 2 ends on Feb 24th, 22:00 UTC.

B1rd

rEdo wrote:

The reason I started the beeboy wagon was because I thought this can't be this simple and that we need to make out the most of today as possible, but in the end it seems like we need that flip.
Before you said that Jess was 90% gonna flip town, did you change your mind or was it just to pressure beeboy? Because I was willing to trust your read and go off the assumption that Jess was town, at least until we get the first scum. Because while there is a chance that Jess is scum, it's also a good possibility that she's just an easy scapegoat to divert votes from scum and get them one day closer to their win condition.
abraker
A part of me hopes Jess will come up Dues ex Machina post, but most of me knows she won't post before the hammer.
rEdo

B1rd wrote:

rEdo wrote:

The reason I started the beeboy wagon was because I thought this can't be this simple and that we need to make out the most of today as possible, but in the end it seems like we need that flip.
Before you said that Jess was 90% gonna flip town, did you change your mind or was it just to pressure beeboy? Because I was willing to trust your read and go off the assumption that Jess was town, at least until we get the first scum. Because while there is a chance that Jess is scum, it's also a good possibility that she's just an easy scapegoat to divert votes from scum and get them one day closer to their win condition.
The 90% chance was a bluff, but I do believe there is a chance that she flips town, mainly basing on her AtE self-vote. I'm not sure she's smart enough to pull that out as scum. And I'm hella afraid she actually is a scapegoat, but if that's the case, I'm 99% certain beeboy is scum in that case. I think taking the risk and lynching beeboy today is not a good move for town, and lynching Jess is a much safer one since she might flip scum.
rEdo
If Jess flips town then Frostings should also be a guy to observe.
rEdo
I'm literally pissing off people on my bus because I mash f5 LMAO
B1rd
Yeah I definitely agree with that, and I've pretty much been suspicious of beeboy and forstings for most of the game. Do you have any other insights or comments about any of your posts before the hammer?
Sakura
You should probably post your reads and final thoughts depending on Jess flip, i'll give you time to do that.
abraker
Insights: Jess must have given up judging by her not voting in addition to the self vote
Comments: none
rEdo
Unvote

Just in case.
B1rd
Sorry lol, I was in the middle of a post and then I got a call from the Australian wine company wanting to sell me wines :lol:
Hika
I don't have anything to say.
bboy and frosty is what I'll be most concerned about.
Frostings
unless we have a confscum there's no way we're not lynching Jess today
Having Jess alive during Xylo is the worst spot to be in
We need her to flip while we still have a guaranteed free lynch available
abraker
I'm on 2%
cya in half hour
rEdo
Votecount from D1 lynch:

Zexion wrote:

Votecount 1.4 (D1 Final)
Dawnsday [5] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika, -[Jess]- (LYNCH)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Dawnsday, Sakura, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Now, let's consider two cases for D3.
  1. If Jess flips town: I don't like to repeat myself, but like I said, beeboy is 99% scum if that's the case. I will also point a FoS from the grave on Frostings. I mean, look at the D1 votecount. I'm not exactly sure about Hika, but my gut tells me she's town. As for beeboy's partner, um, I see abraker as his most possible partner.
  2. If Jess flips scum: If I were still in the game I would cry over my existence because of not being able to read the game properly, but hey, that's Jess we're dealing with. I'm not really sure who could be her partner, but considering her reads from D1, abraker and/or Frostings would make me worry. However, that would make beeboy pretty much town because he wouldn't push his scumpartner just in order to save himself (unless WIFOM). I believe that ike literally everything that happens after that flip is going to heavily rely on what you guys are gonna do in the following day.
In either cases I have no idea how to read abraker, he generally leans scum, but there's no way Frostings and abraker can be scum at the same time.

Any last questions? I will hammer if anyone votes earlier.
Sakura
Unvote
Vote: Jess
Sakura
Feel free to hammer whenever you're ready
rEdo
So be it.
Vote: -[Jess]-
rEdo
===[]
Topic Starter
Zexion
you guys were lucky I didn't disconnect (I was expecting this anyways)

Votecount 2.10 (Day 2 Final)
-[Jess]- [5] - beeboy123, Frostings, rEdo, Hika, Sakura (LYNCH)
beeboy123 [1] - B1rd
Frostings [1] - abraker
Hika [0] -
rEdo [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
B1rd [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [1] - -[Jess]-
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved. Scene coming soon.
rEdo
I would kill you if you hadn't.
rEdo
I mean I want to know the flip and take some sleep already x.x
rEdo
ZEXION PLS
Topic Starter
Zexion
*waiting intensifies*
rEdo
FUCK OFF LOL
Topic Starter
Zexion
@rEdo: Not to mention you would have had to wait like another full day until I got access to a PC.

"After a great battle that's really hard for me to write at 11 PM having to get up at 5AM next day to go to work (and rEdo would probably kill me IRL if I don't post this soon), Jess had to answer for her crimes.

Crimes she didn't commit. She seemed completely innocent."


-[Jess]-, Vanilla Townie, has been lynched Day 2.


It is now Night 2. It ends 48 hours after this post, that is Feb 26th, 01:30 UTC.
(48 hours long nights will be kept since it's a newbie game)
All actions are due to my inbox until that date.
Topic Starter
Zexion
"rEdo was kinda suicidal from yesterday, wasn't he?

Yeah that guy was like "I'm gonna be killed!", who could ever die or let alone be killed in a town so peaceful like this?

If I recall correctly that guy was always paranoid, I think he purchased a bulletproof vest before coming here.

Hey, wait a second.... what's that on the plaza....?

Oh...."


rEdo, 1-shot Bulletproof Townie, was killed Night 2.

It is now Day 2. It ends 6 days after this post, that is March 4th, 01:30 AM UTC.

Votecount 3.0 (Day 3 Start)
Hika [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
Frostings [0] -
B1rd [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [6] - Hika, Sakura, abraker , Frostings , B1rd, beeboy123
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
rEdo
Bah.
Sakura
Vote: beeboy
Sakura
Oh wait this is MyLo
Vote: No Lynch
Sakura
Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy

Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost, not sure if there's a point to voting NL if bee's gonna be lynched either way even if it's today or tomorrow.
Regardless now it's very true rEdo was shot N1 and it's about time i go and re-read D1 to figure out why.
Sakura

Sakura wrote:

Regardless now it's very true rEdo was shot N1 and it's about time i go and re-read D1 to figure out why.
To expand on this, i was actually hoping scum would have no killed N1 for one reason or another, but since rEdo died, there's no doubt anymore he was the N1 shot.
beeboy123
I am actually starting to think Sakura is scum tbh I'll post more later don't put me at L-2 during mylo pls.
beeboy123
All arguments on me she hasn't conceded is that we think differently usually and we had the same reads this game and I don't think she would use that garbage of a read on me.
Don't get me wrong we do think differently in almost if not all the games we play together it just doesn't make me scum and she knows that.


vote: Sakura
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy

Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost
X is town game = lost
X is scum game = deserve to lose

Very much bs scum tend to say in lylo.
beeboy123
I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy

Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost
X is town game = lost
X is scum game = deserve to lose

Very much bs scum tend to say in lylo.
This is so not true, lol.
beeboy123
She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.
What wagon speed did i neglect? Im fairly sure all wagons that have formed here have been slow with the exception of yours, which was a way to make you come in and contribute, and all you did was come and complain about my read and b1rd's on you instead of commenting on anything else that had happened
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.
Meanwhile, you've been pretty much lurking it out all of D2, and didnt comment on anything that happened other than your read on Jess or my read on you.
Sakura
Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

I am also very much convinced that Sakura is a player that reads into wagon speed and things like that. (In street fighter mafia she town read Ranger for having a fast wagon that was a counter wagon to scum) and she basically neglected it all together like it is shit play to think that is really weird her opinion on how to play mafia as a whole would change like that.

I let it all slide because I felt like the rest of her play was very much to her town game and I was kinda apathetic in terms of pushing her after the last game we played together but she is scum.
What wagon speed did i neglect? Im fairly sure all wagons that have formed here have been slow with the exception of yours, which was a way to make you come in and contribute, and all you did was come and complain about my read and b1rd's on you instead of commenting on anything else that had happened
Did you forget you completely neglected dawnsday being lynched in 3 days with the only player fighting against the wagon being myself?
I mean your read on me was complete garbage you just said abunch of things that don't line up with anything you know about me as a player and b1rd just ignored my scum hunting and said I wasn't doing it.

Given how the only people you haven't tried to push to lynch are frosting and b1rd and frosting is really unlikely to be scum b1rd is probably just your scum buddy.

last night I basically came to the realization yours and b1rds push on me is the same as the push pie and muffin made on me in PCB mafia where you just argue I am not scum hunting while ignoring all my scum hunting because I don't have strong or confident reads as town. What you are b1rd are doing is the same shit zmuffin and pie did.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

She really has been ok lynching anyone but b1rd, frosting and rEdo this game which is really bad coming from someone who solves the game via town hunting.
Meanwhile, you've been pretty much lurking it out all of D2, and didnt comment on anything that happened other than your read on Jess or my read on you.
Guess you can ignore I was on VLA for all of D2 until he end of the day phase and argue this sure.
And also ignore the change in all my other reads at the time
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's one way to say pushing everyone until you can see what sticks as a player who likes to town hunt sure.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean I have literally never seen you play so aggressively before and considering how you say your town hunting falls apart as scum that's why your play changed. You did literally nothing day 1 because you couldn't town hunt as scum so you started to hard push people like nothing I have ever seen before.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Did you forget you completely neglected dawnsday being lynched in 3 days with the only player fighting against the wagon being myself?
I mean your read on me was complete garbage you just said abunch of things that don't line up with anything you know about me as a player and b1rd just ignored my scum hunting and said I wasn't doing it.
Oh wow that happened within 3 RL days? i didnt notice. It felt a lot longer.
My read on you is very legit, for someone that was scumreading Hika, you didnt lift a finger when we were arguing before i townread her, for someone scumreading abraker, you didnt do a thing either, all you cared was about vote parking Jess.

beeboy123 wrote:

Given how the only people you haven't tried to push to lynch are frosting and b1rd and frosting is really unlikely to be scum b1rd is probably just your scum buddy.
Hey i know you kinda have to do your best to get a mislynch, but at least get your facts straight ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
l

beeboy123 wrote:

ast night I basically came to the realization yours and b1rds push on me is the same as the push pie and muffin made on me in PCB mafia where you just argue I am not scum hunting while ignoring all my scum hunting because I don't have strong or confident reads as town. What you are b1rd are doing is the same shit zmuffin and pie did.
>The same
>Bird pushes you for not scumhunting
>I push you out of paranoia because we never have the same reads.

Much similar, very wow.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Considering at the very least i've been trying to figure this out, you've just been vote parking jess all of D2 and complaining
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean I have literally never seen you play so aggressively before and considering how you say your town hunting falls apart as scum that's why your play changed. You did literally nothing day 1 because you couldn't town hunt as scum so you started to hard push people like nothing I have ever seen before.
Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
Day 1: I can't do anything cuz I only town hunt bye town tracker
Day 2: better hard push everyone
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You literally only aggressively push me and that is the case across all our games for w/e reason you have to do that it's just I have still never seen you treat other players (ie Hika and Jess) that way before.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Like pieguyn game, am i rite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You literally only aggressively push me and that is the case across all our games for w/e reason you have to do
Like Street fighter mafia am i right?
beeboy123
Your own words is you solve via town hunting and that falls apart as scum.
Those are your words and all your play suggests against town hunting this game.

You literally just don't know how to play as scum with your new play style and it shows this game.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

I have still never seen you treat other players (ie Hika and Jess) that way before.
Because i totally didnt out of Magical Girl mafia because i couldnt WotC Jess
Because you've totally never seen me make a case on someone else? Oh right i made a case on you in pieguyn game.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Your own words is you solve via town hunting and that falls apart as scum.
Those are your words and all your play suggests against town hunting this game.

You literally just don't know how to play as scum with your new play style and it shows this game.
My own words is that i am more disinterested and disconnected from games as scum.
You can ask this to ANYONE that knows my meta.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Like Street fighter mafia am i right?
You did all of street fighter mafia through POE and VCA you pressured other people 0 times.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

Your own words is you solve via town hunting and that falls apart as scum.
Those are your words and all your play suggests against town hunting this game.

You literally just don't know how to play as scum with your new play style and it shows this game.
My own words is that i am more disinterested and disconnected from games as scum.
You can ask this to ANYONE that knows my meta.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>you can't town hunt as scum so you push people instead this game
>ask anyone if I am interested as scum
Wow much defense, very point I was making.

You very much are engaged this game just not in the way you usually are as town.
beeboy123
You aren't town hunting there is a drastic change in your play style this game despite the fact you spent day 1 arguing you where town hunting.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Like Street fighter mafia am i right?
You did all of street fighter mafia through POE and VCA you pressured other people 0 times.
But i didnt scurmead you there.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2nd, Hika, abraker and Jess were part of my PoE when i made the case on Hika, at that time Frosty gave me the possibility that Hika was faking confusion so i looked into it, i said that at the very start of my post, after further interactions with Hika i figured she was probably not scum, you had also been away and i had this weird feeling in my head due to you having come to the same conclusions i had, and then decided to forget about the game and not pursue anything, town beeboy pushes things harder, scum beeboy invents BS to survive.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

I have still never seen you treat other players (ie Hika and Jess) that way before.
Because i totally didnt out of Magical Girl mafia because i couldnt WotC Jess
Because you've totally never seen me make a case on someone else? Oh right i made a case on you in pieguyn game.
>I have never seen you make a case on other people after you started town hunting
>but beeboy I made a case on you

Well good thing I acknowledged you have made cases on me before.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

You aren't town hunting there is a drastic change in your play style this game despite the fact you spent day 1 arguing you where town hunting.
I didnt townhunt in pieguyn game either.
I also didn't townhunt in semi-nightless after D1.
Guess what alignment i flipped on both of those games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
but pieguyn mafia you where do apathetic it doesn't really count.
I wasnt in semi night less but that is like 1 game out of like 10 I have seen you in with your town hunting meta I could read it cause it is prolly more scum bs on your end.
Sakura
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 1#p8168571 <- totes not a case.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p8127615 <- totes wasnt townhunting on D1.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8297044 <- Take a wild guess at what my replacement flipped.
Sakura
All you're doing is bringing up "meta"
It is already proven that your meta assesment is BS.
So what's left?
This game.
beeboy123
Wow you made 1 case in 30 games on your alt.
Wow I am wrong that totally justifies you pushing literally anyone until you can see what sticks.
Sakura
Not to mention there's also Tarot where i made a case on Wisdom on D2.
There's also EoSD where i started pushing ppl hard even on D1 after townthunting for a bit.

Again your meta assesment is BS.
If you're really not scum, then you gotta start looking elsewhere and prove to us that you're town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

All you're doing is bringing up "meta"
It is already proven that your meta assesment is BS.
So what's left?
This game.
Wow 1 case in 30 games means my meta is bs wow.
That doesn't even mean you where playing aggressively (which you weren't really doing in that game)

Like you have never played this aggressively before and your meta doesn't back that up. Hell your "I am active as scum" meta you brought up actually goes against you.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Not to mention there's also Tarot where i made a case on Wisdom on D2.
There's also EoSD where i started pushing ppl hard even on D1 after townthunting for a bit.

Again your meta assesment is BS.
If you're really not scum, then you gotta start looking elsewhere and prove to us that you're town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Both those games you replaced on your main where you don't solve via passive play and town hunting so my meta isn't bs.
And you are the one that needs to town it up not me.
Sakura
Your meta assesment is BS if there are exceptions, which means, what you're saying i only do as scum i've done as town.
so it is BS.
Stop moving the goalpost ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123
It's the same bullshit pie and zmuffin where spouting that you and b1rd are saying this game
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

It's the same bullshit pie and zmuffin where spouting that you and b1rd are saying this game
I could've sworn you said this before
Oh yeah you did.
Sakura
You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.
Hika
read tomorrow
Sakura
You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Compared to your full hearted commitments of trying to lynch anyone you can?
And all your full hearted day 1 play?

I was getting what I wanted in terms of the Jess why would I need to pressure Hika?
Why would I be scum like you and just push anyone I can when I can push my top scum read.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Compared to your full hearted commitments of trying to lynch anyone you can?
And all your full hearted day 1 play?

I was getting what I wanted in terms of the Jess why would I need to pressure Hika?
Why would I be scum like you and just push anyone I can when I can push my top scum read.
So apparently i push everyone i can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You keep singing the same melody, maybe someone will believe you.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.
I gave my reads based on everything that had happened, I dont like catching up as town so I didn't reply to everything because what is the point of you have my reads and you very much just would lynxh everyone which is much worse then "vote parking" or w/e scum bs you are pushing
Sakura
I mean sure, copying my reads is the exact perfect natural read progression a townie would have, totally.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.
I gave my reads based on everything that had happened, I dont like catching up as town so I didn't reply to everything because what is the point of you have my reads and you very much just would lynxh everyone which is much worse then "vote parking" or w/e scum bs you are pushing
>Everyone
I guess someone here doesnt know what "Everyone" means.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

So apparently i push everyone i can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You keep singing the same melody, maybe someone will believe you.
You haven't Denied anything I said though
Sakura
I guess sure, staying fully silent and not commenting or interacting with reads is totally going to get me... better reads.
Why didnt i think of that! :o
Sakura
Now i know how to get better reads without putting any effort!
beeboy123
>Everyone
I guess someone here doesnt know what "Everyone" means.
Not frosting, conf town and your scum buddy
Sorry I forgot you won't bus or push frosting
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

>Everyone
I guess someone here doesnt know what "Everyone" means.
Not frosting, conf town and your scum buddy
Sorry I forgot you won't bus or push frosting
Nope, still not scum!
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

I guess sure, staying fully silent and not commenting or interacting with reads is totally going to get me... better reads.
Why didnt i think of that! :o
You where totally ok killing the players that is different from pressure
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

I guess sure, staying fully silent and not commenting or interacting with reads is totally going to get me... better reads.
Why didnt i think of that! :o
You where totally ok killing the players that is different from pressure
Of course im ok killing them, i thought they were scum, my interactions with Hika made me think otherwise of her.
beeboy123
You haven't mentioned who you think I am scim with despite it being mylo as well.


God I hope town sees through all your bs arguments.
Sakura
You're talking as if you've never played with me.
Which should show how BS this push you're making is.
beeboy123

Sakura wrote:

Of course im ok killing them, i thought they were scum, my interactions with Hika made me think otherwise of her.
Yes which is why I said you just keep pushing people to see what sticks.
Hell at one point you said you thought Hika was conf scum but you gave up pushing Her to push Jess (aka not town play)
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

You haven't mentioned who you think I am scim with despite it being mylo as well.


God I hope town sees through all your bs arguments.

Sakura wrote:

Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy

Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost, not sure if there's a point to voting NL if bee's gonna be lynched either way even if it's today or tomorrow.
Regardless now it's very true rEdo was shot N1 and it's about time i go and re-read D1 to figure out why.
Sakura

beeboy123 wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Of course im ok killing them, i thought they were scum, my interactions with Hika made me think otherwise of her.
Yes which is why I said you just keep pushing people to see what sticks.
Hell at one point you said you thought Hika was conf scum but you gave up pushing Her to push Jess (aka not town play)
No, i pushed you.
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