B1rd wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

A) I am still waiting for b1rd to respond to my post where I called his entire read on me false. Like his read on me was 100% confusion of my posts and if he actually spoke to me I don't think he'd think I am scum.

Pretty sure I did p/5835756

beeboy123 wrote:

I am tired of defending myself from garbage on this site.

I would say I am a blatant counter wagon to scum and this wagon happened so fast despite Jess doing literally nothing and being pretty scum read that I couldn't possibly flip scum but no one listened to me when I said Dawnsday was town for similar reasons so I guess you guys can have fun continuing ignore me and lose this game.

I don't think your counter-wagon claim holds much weight when pretty much all the people voting you are strong town reads, at least to me, and who were actually voting Jess before. It's not one else fault that you've been lurking, now you're just complaining and blaming everyone else now that you're under pressure for valid reasons. Sick of defending yourself? You've put like half the effort in defending yourself than some other people have done pursuing one scum read. And even less actually following your own. This reaction pretty much just consolidates my scum read on you.

Sakura wrote:

You mean the game where you wanted to lynch me?
The game where i got pushed hard for townreading postie?

Much agreement, very wow

beeboy123 wrote:

And we agreed on like all reads up until lylo.

Sakura wrote:

My TR on bee has been weakening as of late, but part of it is paranoia coz me and beeboy usually tend to not agree on townreads, and his latest reads list seems to mirror mine more or less.
(I had already mentioned TRs on him, b1rd and Frosty, and with the rEdo CC out of the way that would make rEdo town, leading to a PoE of Hika/Jess/abraker)
I was half expecting him to fight me on the Jess lynch and say Jess is town or something.

Frostings wrote:

do I have to click those links? because I don't really wanna click those links

I thought Sakura's vote on beeboy was a reaction test what
why are we pushing so many different people a few days before the deadline and what is that super fast beeboy wagon

Sakura wrote:

I was checking to see if he would beetlejuice

Sakura wrote:

Sakura wrote:

My TR on bee has been weakening as of late, but part of it is paranoia coz me and beeboy usually tend to not agree on townreads, and his latest reads list seems to mirror mine more or less.
(I had already mentioned TRs on him, b1rd and Frosty, and with the rEdo CC out of the way that would make rEdo town, leading to a PoE of Hika/Jess/abraker)
I was half expecting him to fight me on the Jess lynch and say Jess is town or something.

Also you never replied to this back then.
You're only complaining now.

Frostings wrote:

Sakura wrote:

I was checking to see if he would beetlejuice

is that scum indicative?

beeboy123 wrote:

Agreeing on reads is a garbage scum tell regardless of who you are talking to there you go I replied.

Now find me a game as scum where I am uncomfortable making reads and pushing people.

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

Agreeing on reads is a garbage scum tell regardless of who you are talking to there you go I replied.

Now find me a game as scum where I am uncomfortable making reads and pushing people.

Umm, knowing you you'd probably get help from a scum partner and as such are pretty sure i wont find one.

-[Jess]- wrote:

I will post later after I get clam down since those two quote makes me get emotional and just realized I do nothing.starting to read for to first day.

beeboy123 wrote:

You where town reading wisdom and I was town reading GE we where just disagreeing on the reasoning we used we still agreed on those reads.

Agreeing on reads isn't really a scum tell either. aren't YOU a player that sees that as a town tell anyway? Like didn't you town read Aero for having the same reads you did even though his reads came after yours.

B1rd wrote:

Defending Dawnsday is super easy to rationalise as scum. I mean lots of things are D1, but it's that in combination with other things. You can't just blame all your problems on RL things, firstly, you knew when you joined the game that it would be a commitment. And really, it only takes like an hour a day to be completely up to date with the game. You can't spare that? It's just weak excuses. If you really couldn't spare enough time to play the game you should have just replaced yourself.

Sakura wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

You where town reading wisdom and I was town reading GE we where just disagreeing on the reasoning we used we still agreed on those reads.

Agreeing on reads isn't really a scum tell either. aren't YOU a player that sees that as a town tell anyway? Like didn't you town read Aero for having the same reads you did even though his reads came after yours.

It was the opposite, you gave TR on Wisdom because "lol not reading thread"
Yes, but i see something different with you, it's been idk... something bothering me ever since i saw your reads list

Frostings wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

I will post later after I get clam down since those two quote makes me get emotional and just realized I do nothing.starting to read for to first day.

I really hope that got lost in translation

Hika wrote:

Abraker, why u defending me fam

Sakura wrote:

So one thing still bothers me about beeboy and it's the fact that he came only to defend himself, he didnt comment on anything else that happened.

Sakura wrote:

I think we need to start consolidating soon

B1rd wrote:

I still want to lynch beeboy. But Jess or beeboy, at this point I just want to lynch someone.

rEdo wrote:

@beeboy:
a) Gimme reasons to think Jess is scum.
b) Why would you beetlejuice? You literally showed up when the wagon shifted from Jess to you, and you just said your vote sits on Jess without a proper explanation. I pretty much second everything that Sakura have said to this point.

Unvote
Vote: beeboy123 (this is L-2)

rEdo wrote:

B1rd, why beeboy over Jess?

rEdo wrote:

Frosty, abraker? Are you here?

rEdo wrote:

The reason I started the beeboy wagon was because I thought this can't be this simple and that we need to make out the most of today as possible, but in the end it seems like we need that flip.

B1rd wrote:

rEdo wrote:

The reason I started the beeboy wagon was because I thought this can't be this simple and that we need to make out the most of today as possible, but in the end it seems like we need that flip.

Before you said that Jess was 90% gonna flip town, did you change your mind or was it just to pressure beeboy? Because I was willing to trust your read and go off the assumption that Jess was town, at least until we get the first scum. Because while there is a chance that Jess is scum, it's also a good possibility that she's just an easy scapegoat to divert votes from scum and get them one day closer to their win condition.

Zexion wrote:

Votecount 1.4 (D1 Final)
Dawnsday [5] - abrake, Frostings, rEdo, Hika, -[Jess]- (LYNCH)
Hika [1] - beeboy123
B1rd [0] -
Sakura [0] -
abraker [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Frostings [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -
rEdo [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - Dawnsday, Sakura, B1rd
With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

1. If Jess flips town: I don't like to repeat myself, but like I said, beeboy is 99% scum if that's the case. I will also point a FoS from the grave on Frostings. I mean, look at the D1 votecount. I'm not exactly sure about Hika, but my gut tells me she's town. As for beeboy's partner, um, I see abraker as his most possible partner.
2. If Jess flips scum: If I were still in the game I would cry over my existence because of not being able to read the game properly, but hey, that's Jess we're dealing with. I'm not really sure who could be her partner, but considering her reads from D1, abraker and/or Frostings would make me worry. However, that would make beeboy pretty much town because he wouldn't push his scumpartner just in order to save himself (unless WIFOM). I believe that ike literally everything that happens after that flip is going to heavily rely on what you guys are gonna do in the following day.