Oh i msread corrected as "current".
I still would like to know what made you change your mind on me.
I still would like to know what made you change your mind on me.
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Ok so as scum Hika would basically have no reason to commit to a counter claim on your bullet proof.rEdo wrote:
Let me corrent myself: {Jess, beeboy, {Hika | abraker}}. I just reminded myself of the fact that beeboy didn't even question Hika's counterclaim to me and voted me right off the bat.rEdo wrote:
I see the scumteam in {Jess, beeboy, {Frostings | abraker}}. Jess is put in this set for complete safety, to be honest.
It isn't like you are a full bullet proof or a cop with a doctor still alive (literally anything that would be worth dying to get lynched) scum could literally just kill you N2 if you are a bullet proof and there is nothing anyone could do about it so I just made the assumption that Hika was the town in the situation in addition to the fact she sort of sorted some kind of PR.
Was I correct, no but to say I didn't question it when in my mind there was literally nothing to question is kinda silly.
I ninja you silly willy
Also sorry Sakura, I meant to say I suspect bboy* not is suspect bboy.
I would argue my reads are more then just factual analysis but meh.rEdo wrote:
[*]beeboy. For some reason most people (myself included) assumed from the beginning of the game that beeboy is town. I've seen this happen way too many times (especially in the Hoenn Mafia) - a scum player posts nothing but accurate analysis at beginning of the day 1 and woo, he gets towncred for that. I have more reasons to believe he's scum than to believe he's town.[/list]
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vote: jess
anyway I said I would do this so ima do this.
anyway I said I would do this so ima do this.
Also Sakura, do you actually think Hika is scum? Because if you have a strong case, that's all well and good. But if you're just going to relentlessly pursue a small chance that she's scum when most others don't think so, I feel like that's just gonna break up the cohesion of town, especially when you're one of the most conftown at the moment and could take a strong leading role in scumhunting.
Jess on L-1 right?
I can hammer if everyone's ready to end the day in a few hours.
I can hammer if everyone's ready to end the day in a few hours.
That's right. Jess unvoted herself too.
I'm 90% sure Jess is gonna flip town due to her going emotional and voting herself. That's not what I've seen earlier, and I don't think she would do that.Hika wrote:
Jess on L-1 right?
I can hammer if everyone's ready to end the day in a few hours.
I'll catch up (especially answer Sakura) in a few moments, sort of busy with uni work now.
I did something like that back on Sunday.B1rd wrote:
Also Sakura, do you actually think Hika is scum? Because if you have a strong case, that's all well and good. But if you're just going to relentlessly pursue a small chance that she's scum when most others don't think so, I feel like that's just gonna break up the cohesion of town, especially when you're one of the most conftown at the moment and could take a strong leading role in scumhunting.
But all people said is that her "townslip" made it impossible for her to be scum.
At the top of that post also showed a potential "scumslip" in the form of CCing as Mafia Goon.
I'm not 100% sure on her being scum, if anything it's more like... 50-60%, what i do know is that players always do something for a reason, whether the reason is subconcious or concious could heavily lead to alignment relevant information, which is why i still wonder "why did she CC as VT, when there wasn't a VT on either of the row or the column".
The same could be said about her constant rejecting of PRs using their abilities on her, and her false meta call that was later invalidated anyway before anyone investigated it in depth.
I'm fine with the Jess lynch, but I also do have a feeling she might flip town
I'm afraid though if we vote anyone else and we mislynch, we'll eventually be stuck in Lylo with Jess alive, and if she's town, scum can easily play the "Lynch Jess instead of me" card for the win
I'm afraid though if we vote anyone else and we mislynch, we'll eventually be stuck in Lylo with Jess alive, and if she's town, scum can easily play the "Lynch Jess instead of me" card for the win
Dawnsday and rEdo were questioning my vote, but what prompted me to explain it was when he got to L-1abraker wrote:
I never got an answer to this iircabraker wrote:
must have missed something. Who was questioning you?
This may sound weird, but literally the only reason i want Jess lynched is because, 1) she did a scummy move and should be punished for it, she could still be scum after all. 2) She's literally not contributing anything. 3) She being here is frustrating me to no end because i literally can't tell with her posts what her alignment might be, and she still has potential to flip scum.
I've already avoided joining games with jess on them before because people give her a pass for BS like this.
I feel like if we give her a pass after what she did she's just going to do it again, she could be scum AtEing, she could be town AtEing, and i dont fricken know, but if she's town and we encourage that kind of play, who's to say she won't do the same as scum, and no one would bat an eye on it.
tl;dr: Jess is just frustrating to try to read, and people in here like to give her a pass for doing all the scummy stuff she does, in MS she would already been WotC'd or even WotM'd out of games or people would just simply lynch her for things like that.
I've already avoided joining games with jess on them before because people give her a pass for BS like this.
I feel like if we give her a pass after what she did she's just going to do it again, she could be scum AtEing, she could be town AtEing, and i dont fricken know, but if she's town and we encourage that kind of play, who's to say she won't do the same as scum, and no one would bat an eye on it.
tl;dr: Jess is just frustrating to try to read, and people in here like to give her a pass for doing all the scummy stuff she does, in MS she would already been WotC'd or even WotM'd out of games or people would just simply lynch her for things like that.
Also I briefly skimmed over the posts again
When I townread abraker over his tryhard diagrams, in retrospect it could actually be an easy way to convince others to vote the wrong people if town is dumb like me
When I townread abraker over his tryhard diagrams, in retrospect it could actually be an easy way to convince others to vote the wrong people if town is dumb like me
I believe i've said several times that Effort =/= TownFrostings wrote:
Also I briefly skimmed over the posts again
When I townread abraker over his tryhard diagrams, in retrospect it could actually be an easy way to convince others to vote the wrong people if town is dumb like me
I haven't played a whole lot with Jess, so I can't really comment on her meta play, but I'd say there's a fair chance she's scum. And at the end of the day, I'd rather mislynch Jess than leave her alive and mislynch another townie. I'd be on board with lynching beeboy instead if other people with more experience have good townreads on Jess, but I can't really see that happening at this point.
I'll admit I haven't followed your analysis 100%, but from my point of view it just seems like it'd be unlikely for scum to do such a thing and cause a scene like Hika did. Scum tend to be more cautious and think out their moves, so I think it's unlikely that they'd do something like that.Sakura wrote:
I did something like that back on Sunday.
But all people said is that her "townslip" made it impossible for her to be scum.
At the top of that post also showed a potential "scumslip" in the form of CCing as Mafia Goon.
I'm not 100% sure on her being scum, if anything it's more like... 50-60%, what i do know is that players always do something for a reason, whether the reason is subconcious or concious could heavily lead to alignment relevant information, which is why i still wonder "why did she CC as VT, when there wasn't a VT on either of the row or the column".
The same could be said about her constant rejecting of PRs using their abilities on her, and her false meta call that was later invalidated anyway before anyone investigated it in depth.
She's probably not scum but I'm comfortable with a lynch on Jess.
Just the safest lynch on the table because it does eliminate some of the late game WIFOM possibilities if she's left here.
Just the safest lynch on the table because it does eliminate some of the late game WIFOM possibilities if she's left here.
I can't really see it happening. I believe she just thought that she's the vanilla townie and that it counter-claims me. A flaw in logic.Sakura wrote:
What do you think of my theory that she saw Mafia Goon on the vertical line and thought it'd counterclaim you? Makes more sense to me since there's no VT on either line.
That's not good enough of a reason for me. You haven't stayed why he's stupid, you just went along with everything people said beforehand.abraker wrote:
I just did?rEdo wrote:
You have never explained why your vote on Dawnsday stayed on him, thoughOr are you referring to me saying anything back then and not now?abraker wrote:
I just chose my vote at random on day 1 based on judgement on an avatar and remained on Dawn because his stupidity mislead everyone including me to vote for him.
Yes, I know. My point here was that you knew Hika's doing a townie move and that I got hit tonight, and you knew I survived because of my PR. So hey, since you know I'm conftown, let's use that counterclaim thing to actually start a wagon on me not only to get me lynched, but perhaps Hika on the following day as well.beeboy123 wrote:
Ok so as scum Hika would basically have no reason to commit to a counter claim on your bullet proof.
It isn't like you are a full bullet proof or a cop with a doctor still alive (literally anything that would be worth dying to get lynched) scum could literally just kill you N2 if you are a bullet proof and there is nothing anyone could do about it so I just made the assumption that Hika was the town in the situation in addition to the fact she sort of sorted some kind of PR.
Was I correct, no but to say I didn't question it when in my mind there was literally nothing to question is kinda silly.
Well, since you know who's town and scum. If you were a vanilla townie, could you get any other source for your reads than factual analysis?beeboy123 wrote:
I would argue my reads are more then just factual analysis but meh.
Play-safe card. Nice. If Jess gets lynched today and flips town, you're literally confscum to me.beeboy123 wrote:
vote: jess
anyway I said I would do this so ima do this.
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Unfortunately I have to agree with Sakura on the fact that Jess' alignment is something we literally can't solve in any other way than lynching her. Even though like literally 3 people (myself included) she's about to flip town.
rEdo wrote:
Unfortunately I have to agree with Sakura on the fact that Jess' alignment is something we literally can't solve in any other way than lynching her. Even though like literally 3 people (myself included) said she's about to flip town.
What im interested in is knowing what makes you say she's gonna flip town.
Because time is running low
I have a feeling she's just playing regular jess?
Either way if she flips scum or town, you can't really link her to anyone else lol
her scumbuddy probably won't even defend her
Either way if she flips scum or town, you can't really link her to anyone else lol
her scumbuddy probably won't even defend her
Also im gonna drop my pursuit of Hika in favor of cohesion, i did notice some differences in her play in Lovers mafia, i just dont understand why people think she townslipped, but since a lot of my townreads (Frosty, B1rd, rEdo) seem to think so i'll let it go as im starting to feel like im beating a dead horse here. But if she does turn up being scum, expect a word of "I told you so!" from me at endgame.
This puts me in here:
Town:
rEdo
B1rd ^
Frostings ^
Leaning Town:
beeboy V
Hika ^
Leftovers:
abraker
Jess
(the arrows just indicate changes across my reads from their last position)
If Jess is town then im going wrong somewhere.
This puts me in here:
Town:
rEdo
B1rd ^
Frostings ^
Leaning Town:
beeboy V
Hika ^
Leftovers:
abraker
Jess
(the arrows just indicate changes across my reads from their last position)
If Jess is town then im going wrong somewhere.
That self-vote thing triggered me to thinking she's frustrated that we scumread her so she self-voted.Sakura wrote:
What im interested in is knowing what makes you say she's gonna flip town.
Do you have reasons to believe she wouldnt do this as scum?rEdo wrote:
That self-vote thing triggered me to thinking she's frustrated that we scumread her so she self-voted.Sakura wrote:
What im interested in is knowing what makes you say she's gonna flip town.
I don't want to be mean, but to be honest I don't believe she's intelligent enough to pull that off xdSakura wrote:
Do you have reasons to believe she wouldnt do this as scum?
She's basically done 3 pro-scum actions:
1) Hammering a player without letting them claim.
2) Self-voting which muddles VCA and if town, she's literally voting the only player that is conftown to her (herself)
3) Not contributing anything overall.
Sure, 2 could have been caused by frustration, but it's Jess we're talking about.
1) Hammering a player without letting them claim.
2) Self-voting which muddles VCA and if town, she's literally voting the only player that is conftown to her (herself)
3) Not contributing anything overall.
Sure, 2 could have been caused by frustration, but it's Jess we're talking about.
I mean as far as i recall, she's done the self voting thing before, why wouldnt it become a scum tactic.
Now let's assume for the sake of argument that you're right and she's town.
What happens then if we mislynch today, even if scum dont pull a lynch on her at XyLo, im worried she'll vote wrong, i mean, she already did it D1 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Now let's assume for the sake of argument that you're right and she's town.
What happens then if we mislynch today, even if scum dont pull a lynch on her at XyLo, im worried she'll vote wrong, i mean, she already did it D1 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
While we do have time, why do you two have a town read on Frostings? I had a scum read on him before, and I haven't analysed frosty's recent posts, but him being scum is still a possibility IMO.
Dude frosty scum is soooo possible.
Everything is always a possibility, I just think the chances are very unlikely. And my read on him comes entirely from Experience, specially coz i've been in his crosshairs several times in the past on games.B1rd wrote:
While we do have time, why do you two have a town read on Frostings? I had a scum read on him before, and I haven't analysed frosty's recent posts, but him being scum is still a possibility IMO.
Also, it's just jess, Sakura. If she turns out town, whoops.
If not then okay; we will just figure something out.
If not then okay; we will just figure something out.
Literally the only reason for people to say she's town is
"OMG SHE SELF VOTED SHE'S SO TOTES FRUSTRATED AND TOWN"
I know the deal trust me, it's a strategy i used to use too, and no it shouldn't be encouraged.
"OMG SHE SELF VOTED SHE'S SO TOTES FRUSTRATED AND TOWN"
I know the deal trust me, it's a strategy i used to use too, and no it shouldn't be encouraged.
Your defence of him including experience is starting to be a weak arguements for me. More the reason a fellow scum is protecting scum. Like you seem too defensive of him.Sakura wrote:
Everything is always a possibility, I just think the chances are very unlikely. And my read on him comes entirely from Experience, specially coz i've been in his crosshairs several times in the past on games.B1rd wrote:
While we do have time, why do you two have a town read on Frostings? I had a scum read on him before, and I haven't analysed frosty's recent posts, but him being scum is still a possibility IMO.
If Jess flips town, you are and Frosty will be in my watch list
We've been on your watch list for a while. What's new?abraker wrote:
If Jess flips town, you are and Frosty will be in my watch list
To be clear, it's as if the subtle mentioning of "Frosty might be scum" sets off a "I know he's not from experience" trigger
It's starting to wet off red flags for me
*set
I mean i have a hard time explaining my townread on Frosty
Just like people have a hard time explaining why they think Jess will flip town from the self vote despite it being null at best.
Havent you ever heard about gut?
Just like people have a hard time explaining why they think Jess will flip town from the self vote despite it being null at best.
Havent you ever heard about gut?
I play gut only on first day when there is nothing to go by. I will need find something that doesn't exist if you want me to play by "gut".
Failure to explain something leads to suspicion
Failure to explain something leads to suspicion
A subtle mentioning?abraker wrote:
To be clear, it's as if the subtle mentioning of "Frosty might be scum" sets off a "I know he's not from experience" trigger
Is this subtle to you?:
B1rd wrote:
While we do have time, why do you two have a town read on Frostings? I had a scum read on him before, and I haven't analysed frosty's recent posts, but him being scum is still a possibility IMO.
Sure, but you're not going to impress anyone else with contradicting reads with your only reasoning being your "gut feeling".
Lol. I read that in the thread you linked and I was thinking of quoting it myself.Sakura wrote:
Literally the only reason for people to say she's town is
"OMG SHE SELF VOTED SHE'S SO TOTES FRUSTRATED AND TOWN"
I know the deal trust me, it's a strategy i used to use too, and no it shouldn't be encouraged.
"Subtle"
I will admit, you can now see how I can easily dismiss things as something lesser and prioritize things that are that align with the pile of coincidences I have found. To be clear though coincidence =/= fact, but it is my digging grounds for facts
I will admit, you can now see how I can easily dismiss things as something lesser and prioritize things that are that align with the pile of coincidences I have found. To be clear though coincidence =/= fact, but it is my digging grounds for facts
My gut comes from direct play experience with Frosty, i can try and explain it but im not very good at explaining feelings.
You're saying i went and said that he's town from experience at the lightest subtle suspicion.abraker wrote:
"Subtle"
I will admit, you can now see how I can easily dismiss things as something lesser and prioritize things that are that align with the pile of coincidences I have found. To be clear though coincidence =/= fact, but it is my digging grounds for facts
But that's not true, I was asked a direct question.
Well I think frostings is actually scum from experience.
He's not pulling his "I know I'm town" strings like he usually does.
He's not pulling his "I know I'm town" strings like he usually does.
My theory right now is Frosty+Sakura scum. My agenda right now is to find any coincidences that align with that theory and hopefully stumble upon a fact that may prove or disprove this theory.Sakura wrote:
You're saying i went and said that he's town from experience at the lightest subtle suspicion.abraker wrote:
"Subtle"
I will admit, you can now see how I can easily dismiss things as something lesser and prioritize things that are that align with the pile of coincidences I have found. To be clear though coincidence =/= fact, but it is my digging grounds for facts
But that's not true, I was asked a direct question.
Not exactly, Frosty hates playing as scum.
At game start the way he went after you and Dawn reminds me a lot of how he went after me in Madoka, and idk, i feel like he'd be like more lost and confused instead of straightforward if he was scum.
At game start the way he went after you and Dawn reminds me a lot of how he went after me in Madoka, and idk, i feel like he'd be like more lost and confused instead of straightforward if he was scum.
I can buy lost and confused but you can act list and confused as scum as well.
As I said before I strictly ignore the "x wouldn't act like y" claims. Those are nothing to me unless you prove why "x would or would not act like y"
As I said before I strictly ignore the "x wouldn't act like y" claims. Those are nothing to me unless you prove why "x would or would not act like y"
For starters he was the first one to mention you could be faking your confusion and then he also was the first one to mention you had townslipped instead, i find it hard to see him doing either of those 2 things as scum.
Ahhh
Sakura please quote.
Sakura please quote.
idk who you are talking to
Hey now... Usually I have a pretty good idea what's going onSakura wrote:
idk, i feel like he'd be like more lost and confused instead of straightforward if he was scum.
At least I like to think that
I was talking to Hika but here are the relevant quotes:
Same with his push on Dawnsday D1.
Frostings wrote:
Hello
I don't know if I'm reading this correctly, but it seems like abraker and B1rd are suspicious of me because they think I have some secret motive or psychology with my votes and reads, but I can't even understand your explanations for my actions let alone come up with them
Hika reminds me of Irre in I think the Tree house game where he acted like he had no idea what was going on. I don't really believe her when she says the setup is confusing, and since Dawn flipped town I think she's still pretty suspicious. The VT claim doesn't help at all.. It looks like she's trying to rack up town points by claiming early, when we already know everybody who's town is VT after rEdo's claim
Jess.. uhhh in the back of my mind I had a feeling she would lynch early. I should have unvoted to get a claim at least but she hammered earlier than I expected. Her action isn't really a tell, but I would be content with a PL to save us headache later
As for the others, I'll have to read the posts again, I just had a quick skim over all the posts
Long story short i have a hard time seeing Frosty pulling this off as scum.Frostings wrote:
So... Hika thought there was only one VT in the game? Even after Tracker got flipped?
... It's actually a pretty convincing townslip, how can you even make this up as scum
Same with his push on Dawnsday D1.
He's still being a little confusing though. His post seem ambiguous and the way he's playing has to be alignment indicative.
I mean saying something like "I'm town" is way more fakeable than the way he approaches the game.
How can you even be using that as a meta tell.
It's just a usual indicator for me that Frostings is town if:
1. Straightforward and doesn't change mindset, regardless of whole town perspective.
2. Always says "but I'm VT, but I'm VT" when he's town.
Number 1 always being the biggest indicator.
1. Straightforward and doesn't change mindset, regardless of whole town perspective.
2. Always says "but I'm VT, but I'm VT" when he's town.
Number 1 always being the biggest indicator.
Frosty also just prevented Hika lynch after being on about her being scum since D1. What kind of scum does that (unless Hika's scum)
He could be scum keeping me alive for WIFOM.
He also jumped in to defend Hika after my Wall post:
If anything im more surprised Hika's scumreading him after this than if anyone else is.Frostings wrote:
I actually don't think Hika could make this up as scum
it doesn't really make sense to claim VT as scum on Day 1 and then push that onto Day 2 to try to "CC" a claimed BP in an open setup, especially after the Tracker flip
It's a pretty believable townslip, I'd be really really surprised if Hika flipped scum
But I already stated that earlier on, I think.
That's why I claimed myself the first time around and made sure I did so scum wouldn't use me for that purpose.
That's why I claimed myself the first time around and made sure I did so scum wouldn't use me for that purpose.
Is this really all you got to say about it?Hika wrote:
He could be scum keeping me alive for WIFOM.
I don't care if he defended me. Someone defending me does not make them automatically town in my eyes. their play is more important to me than me securing a townread in everyone else's reads.
No, because you could be doing the same thing too.Sakura wrote:
Is this really all you got to say about it?Hika wrote:
He could be scum keeping me alive for WIFOM.
I won't know until D3, if I'm alive or not lol
So basically you're implying thatHika wrote:
I don't care if he defended me. Someone defending me does not make them automatically town in my eyes. their play is more important to me than me securing a townread in everyone else's reads.
Scum Frosty decided to ignore an open road to a mislynch that would make a towny look bad, in favor of WIFOM?
I really have a hard time believing that and it feels more like you're trying to scramble for reasons to lynch him, but hey, apparently your supposed townslip means i shouldn't pursue you anymore right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm not even gonna be mad if i lose when you're scum at this point.
Are you referring to him pushing a D1 lynch or D2 lynch?
D2
Hold on, I'll reply to you after I reread his ISO because I'm not sure what you mean.
+ I've been at the doctor for an hour and finally got a room wtf yay
The momment you posted this:
This post signifies 2 things
Either you're scum that is trying to scramble for reasons to scumread Frosty.
Or you're town so deep in confbias that you cant think of anything else of why he would be scum, but just WANT him to be scum.
You already revealed your true motives.Hika wrote:
He could be scum keeping me alive for WIFOM.
This post signifies 2 things
Either you're scum that is trying to scramble for reasons to scumread Frosty.
Or you're town so deep in confbias that you cant think of anything else of why he would be scum, but just WANT him to be scum.
I think you might be looking too hard into it, actually
Because afaik, you just said on the last page that Frosty is town because GUT FEELING.
Yeah and i explained where that gut feeling came from.
Too bad your little mislynch vanished into thin air huh
Unvote
Vote: Hika
Literally dont care why everyone thinks she townslipped at this point.
She just went from looking for any reason to scumread Frosty to trying to discredit me.
This is scum.
Wow, that's bold. Sakura, she's been doing that to pretty much everyone who's been suspicious of her at slightest, as far as I have seen, ourselves included. Do you imply this is a bold scum move?
Eh, I'm not gonna question it because I'm town.
She was my scum read anyway lel
She was my scum read anyway lel
No you're not
You're my conf townread
Hika wrote:
bboy + frosty
or bboy + Jess
are my corrected scumteam reads.
?????????????????????????????Hika wrote:
Eh, I'm not gonna question it because I'm town.
She was my scum read anyway lel
bboy frosty Sakura
Why abraker isn't included on this list? Why do you want to lynch Jess?
Sakura because she tried to defend frosty not being scum.
Bboy because I have no idea wtf he's on about.
Frosty because he's flopping his reads too much. This can be applied to Sakura too.
Bboy because I have no idea wtf he's on about.
Frosty because he's flopping his reads too much. This can be applied to Sakura too.
abraker not on my list because he interrogated me D1 and I believe he doing his best to scumhunt.
Jess I'm willing to lynch bc she is anti town.
Jess I'm willing to lynch bc she is anti town.
I'll let myself use the red color to respond to this.
Hika wrote:
Sakura because she tried to defend frosty not being scum. Is that really a scumtell that you don't agree with somebody?
Bboy because I have no idea wtf he's on about.
Frosty because he's flopping his reads too much. This can be applied to Sakura too. How is he flopping? Provide examples.
Hika wrote:
abraker not on my list because he interrogated me D1 and I believe he doing his best to scumhunt. You seem to be agreeing with him on the Frostings scumread. You see, you said you believe he's doing his best. Shouldn't the same logic apply for Sakura's townread on Frosty?
Jess I'm willing to lynch bc she is anti town. Why would you lynch anti-town on top of scum?
Formatting.rEdo wrote:
I'll let myself use the red color to respond to this.Hika wrote:
Sakura because she tried to defend frosty not being scum. Is that really a scumtell that you don't agree with somebody?
Bboy because I have no idea wtf he's on about. Fine.
Frosty because he's flopping his reads too much. This can be applied to Sakura too. How is he flopping? Provide examples.Hika wrote:
abraker not on my list because he interrogated me D1 and I believe he doing his best to scumhunt. You seem to be agreeing with him on the Frostings scumread. You see, you said you believe he's doing his best. Shouldn't the same logic apply for Sakura's townread on Frosty?
Jess I'm willing to lynch bc she is anti town. Why would you lynch anti-town on top of scum?
I will gladly respond to this when I get on a computer, as quoting requires too much effort.
You're on a bus home? It's almost midnight here in Poland, and I've got classes at 12 AM. I guess I ain't responding to that overnight then.
Nobody hammers that shit before I wake up. I double dare you.
Good night.
Nobody hammers that shit before I wake up. I double dare you.
Good night.
I would like you to give us a strong case on Sakura, too. I know it's asking for much, but I just want to know your POV as much as possible.
I can do that.
Also yes, I'm taking the train home at the moment so a reply in the next 2 hours is highly unlikely. A reply to a post that requires me to quote however.
Welp, seems it's gonna be a long day. I guess I'm gonna have to do a fair bit of reading to reevaluate my read on Hika.
I can just imagine, we get to L-1, Jess hammers, then we lynch Jess but it turns out she's town and we lose the gamerEdo wrote:
Nobody hammers that shit before I wake up. I double dare you.