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Cryptic 2016-12-28T03:58:29+00:00

fieryrage wrote:
Haha Lol You Think I forgot

kilkl me
disable widescreen support on mbomb's diffs (the only one that's correct is the IMAGINATION diff) I'll let MBomb do it when he finally adds the HSs to the diffs.
y is there no kiais on the insane diffs and below I don't know, blame the GDers

and this is most likely a bug on my end but TRAUMATIZED, EXTREME, EXPERT, EXTRA and INSANE all have lower than 30 secs of drain time but this is according to navosu so yea dont blame me if it isnt Yeah its a bugmethinks

top diff

00:01:500 (1,1) - honestly the note caught me like really off guard here, why not just extend the spinner Cuz cool kids click the circles to the beat and I prefer having the opening beat being clickable. Its not like you can't just restart.
00:09:000 (1,2,3) - not rly a fan of this rhythm choice especially on the top diff, it feels so out of place following vocals here instead of the drums tbh I wanted to follow the vocals there (and I do it on the Extreme too) to add variety and to emphasize the intensity of the vocals. The slider tick catches the drum beat so its okay fam.
00:11:750 (4,5) - what happen 2 ur spacing 00:09:750 (4,5) - lolz Lower pitch, exaggerated a bit but it seemed smoother at this DS when I was watching playtesters.
00:14:250 (2,3) - honestly i'd space this out more cuz every other 1/4 thing like this is spaced pretty decently Except for one other place on the map, all of the 1/4ths are slider to slider, whereas here its slider to circle. Thats why the change in the DS is okay. As far as the reasoning, its moreso to emphasize the transition from vocals to drums.
00:15:250 (2,3,4) - dude why Represents drum nicely, I haven't seen anyone having problems with it after first playthrough.
00:15:750 (1,2,3,1) - pretty awkward to play due to the sudden 1/3 transition coupled with the stupid spacing though i'm not really sure how to make this play better, maybe just nc every note so ppl realize it's 1/3 like all the Cool Dnb Maps do Okay, why not.
00:17:625 (1,2,3) - y is this less spacing Pitch lowering.
00:18:625 (1,2,3) - y is 3 not stacked on 1 dude this is THE SAME RHYthm Cuz I was being edgy and increasing spacing to build intensity.
00:19:500 (3,4) - space this out more plz also nc 00:19:750 (4) - because sv change Not sure where I'd space it out tbh and I don't need to NC because this is the first slider in several combos so it doesn't really matter.
00:23:750 (4,5) - wot is wrong with ur SPACING same as before
00:25:000 (1,2,3,4) - i don't really see a reason to change flow here honestly, i'd just continue the flow you set up previously; rhythm doesn't change at all here so It flow changes in the previous 1/2 spam section as well, maybe its just more noticeable here? It flow changes at the repeat of the lyrics.
00:27:250 (2,3,4) - god damit do u know how unreadable this is on ar 9.8 because its pretty unreadable(tm) Apparently really bad? AR can go up or down, I'm not picky - give me a suggestion.
00:28:000 (1,2) - you use the same spacing for 1/4 sliders like this so changing to 1/2 suddenly is pretty weird, i'd space out a bit more personally at least for this one With the exception of two parts? this is a lot more spacing than all the sliders previously (visually) so I think it should be fine. I haven't had anyone have any issues with it in playtesting either.
00:31:750 (1,2,3) - honestly the spacing here is so similar to the 1/4 spacing before i'd say just make this a slider or stack but i played this fine somehow on sightread so uh NC'd like an edgemaster
on a related note 00:31:812 (2,1) - wtf are u doing Mapping, what about you?
00:33:500 (1) - adding a finish here makes this sound a lot better but that's ignoring the rhythm so hE Blame sharkster

Thanks for moderino amigo. I'll get a few more opinions on the top diff since yours had more feedback than I was initially expecting.

MBomb

MBomb 2017-01-02T01:27:12+00:00

Added hitsounds to all diffs and remapped my Imagination because it was a bit :thinking:

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Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cryptic 2017-01-02T01:35:26+00:00

Updated.

Sharkie

343 posts

Joined May 2014

Sharkie 2017-01-02T04:39:46+00:00

fieryrage wrote:
00:33:500 (1) - adding a finish here makes this sound a lot better but that's ignoring the rhythm so hE
There's no cymbal sound there to back it up. Of course you could argue it sounds better, it doesn't represent the song at all. In metalcoreish songs likes these, the percussion (if you took out all the other instruments) sometimes sounds bad. That's done intentionally. Furthermore, you could tell that the last note of the song isn't extended with the other instruments, and is cut off almost instantly and echoes for around 1 beat. If I did put a Finish there (the hi-hat sound) it would extend around the same length and sound really weird to the player.

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,950 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-01-03T06:40:31+00:00

DROP THE BEERS NONE FOR ME
song ruined

I modded Traumatic/Overdose HT. I often play the 6-9* maps with it because there aren't enough low 5* maps so I'm used to these patterns/difficulty despite my rank.

Rain
00:22:000 (1,2) - Too far imo, missed this often when testplaying
Rain is probably fine

Overdose
00:19:750 (4) - Just rotate this clockwise a bit for more leniency on the h-dash, since it's an unexpected 3/4
00:33:000 (5) - ^ just a bit
00:22:125 (2,3) - That's really hard, would suggest to break the slider into circles and have even spacing on 1,2,3

Traumatic
Could NC at 00:12:500 (7,7) - and 00:24:500 (7) - for some variety, since the music changes it could work
These are only issues that I really think should be changed. I'm overlooking other stuff because its hard
00:12:375 (6) - Might have been done on purpose but I'm really against this since it's not done anywhere else
00:14:875 (6,1) - Since you're more on following the vocals, this hyper should be closer because it's far less stressed compared to the previous... noises. Went through quite a few playtests and this seems to be the biggest part for misses.
00:23:000 (1,2,3,4) - Easily the hardest part and it shouldn't be. This is a hyperdash to edge dash, (unrankable on overdose but idk for deluge since we don't have something for that.) I would still suggest you nerf this because it's just unplayable by nature, I still can't catch 00:23:125 (2) - after moving it right 3-4 grid spaces. Move 2 and 4 as close as possible to 1 and 3 while keeping the ~~edge~~ HYPER dash. Something like this is much more playable (although I overdid it in the screenshot, too easy there)
00:29:625 (10) - Really strong anti flow from this, would suggest ctrl-g to be consistent because this isn't that important of a part to emphasise. 00:30:875 (13) - is fine because it's part of the flow
00:30:375 (6,7,8,9) - Not enough slider velocity on these streams, easy to overshoot. Also, since the guitar is rising in pitch, I would suggest that the streams increase in spacing during these chords to match this.

I did reject a request for the other traumatic set because of the song, but I like MBomb's mapping enough to ignore this

Last edited by Xinnoh 2017-01-03T07:06:05+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

MBomb

MBomb 2017-01-03T07:01:27+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
DROP THE BEERS NONE FOR ME
song ruined

I modded Traumatic/Overdose HT. I often play the 6-9* maps with it because there aren't enough low 5* maps so I'm used to these patterns/difficulty despite my rank.

Rain
00:22:000 (1,2) - Too far imo, missed this often when testplaying - Done.
Rain is probably fine

Overdose
00:19:750 (4) - Just rotate this clockwise a bit for more leniency on the h-dash, since it's an unexpected 3/4 - Done.
00:33:000 (5) - ^ just a bit - Reduced distances slightly instead.
00:22:125 (2,3) - That's really hard, would suggest to break the slider into circles and have even spacing on 1,2,3 - Reduced spacing slightly, but not quite made it equal spacing, I think this is fine.

Traumatic

Didn't do NC stuff, NC pattern is consistent throughout the whole map so I'm keeping it the same.
These are only issues that I really think should be changed. I'm overlooking other stuff because its hard
00:12:375 (6) - Might have been done on purpose but I'm really against this since it's not done anywhere else - Was on purpose, but I decided to weaken it slightly.
00:14:875 (6,1) - Since you're more on following the vocals, this hyper should be closer because it's far less stressed compared to the previous... noises. Went through quite a few playtests and this seems to be the biggest part for misses. - Changed distances around a bit.
00:23:000 (1,2,3,4) - Easily the hardest part and it shouldn't be. This is a hyperdash to edge dash, (unrankable on overdose but idk for deluge since we don't have something for that.) I would still suggest you nerf this because it's just unplayable by nature, I still can't catch 00:23:125 (2) - after moving it right 3-4 grid spaces. Move 2 and 4 as close as possible to 1 and 3 while keeping the edge dash. Something like this is much more playable (although I overdid it in the screenshot, too easy there) - Got told this by numerous testplayers, changed it quite a bit.
00:29:625 (10) - Really strong anti flow from this, would suggest ctrl-g to be consistent because this isn't that important of a part to emphasise. 00:30:875 (13) - is fine because it's part of the flow - Made vertical to get rid of antiflow.
00:30:375 (6,7,8,9) - Not enough slider velocity on these streams, easy to overshoot. Also, since the guitar is rising in pitch, I would suggest that the streams increase in spacing during these chords to match this. - Great idea, changed.

I did reject a request for the other traumatic set because of the song, but I like MBomb's mapping enough to ignore this

Thanks for the mod, really helped a lot, especially with the hardest diff.

rain

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[Metadata]
Title:TRAUMATIC
TitleUnicode:TRAUMATIC
Artist:Utsu-P
ArtistUnicode:鬱P
Creator:Cryptic
Version:MBomb's OVERDOSE
Source:
Tags:MY SONG IS SHIT Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder P.T.S.D. PxTxSxD Reissue metalcore hastune miku 初音ミク rock vocaloid Exote Anxient Sharkie Magic Bomb UtsuP
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Exote

416 posts

Joined April 2013

Exote 2017-01-03T14:10:57+00:00

@Weber

00:17:000 (2,3,4) - Consider putting a note on the white ticks before this, this section feels really empty for the amount of notes being played here, even for a normal. - thought of it, diff is gonna get harder for sure

ty

Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cryptic 2017-01-03T20:45:44+00:00

Updated the CTB diffs, thanks Sharkie + Exote for responding to the short Weeber mod. Calling STD BNs now while Mbomb finishes up CTB stuff

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2017-01-11T14:48:46+00:00

[traum]

00:09:000 (1,2) - don't really agree with extending all of these sliders throughout the map to ignore the drums. yes there is the vocal but forcefully extending it isn't that great imo, maybe I'm deaf but they cut off at the red ticks for me anyway, same for your other diffs I guess

[extreme]

00:15:750 (1,2,3,1) - 00:31:750 (1,2,3) - nc the whole thing like in the highest diff?

00:28:000 (1) - hardest diff also handles this part better with increasing difficulty as intensity increases

[extra]

00:17:625 (1,2,3,4) - Iget what you're doing but it looks so gross lol

liked this diff the most prob because CS2 is the best CS

[sharkie]

00:14:375 (3,5) - don't hide the repeat arrow pls

[anxient hard]

00:07:000 (1) - don't really like this thing, but if you intend to keep it atleast lower the volume more, it sounds cancer

00:15:875 (4) - suppose to be 1/3

00:31:750 (1) - same

[anxient advanced]

00:07:000 (1) - same as hard

00:15:750 (4,5,1) - same as hard

fix bolded stuff and call me

Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cryptic 2017-01-11T18:57:58+00:00

Strategas wrote:
[traum]

00:09:000 (1,2) - don't really agree with extending all of these sliders throughout the map to ignore the drums. yes there is the vocal but forcefully extending it isn't that great imo, maybe I'm deaf but they cut off at the red ticks for me anyway, same for your other diffs I guess Its mainly a stylistic choice to avoid constant 1/2 spam and to emphasize some of vocal patterns. I personally prefer it like this, and I think theres no reason to just make it 30 seconds of 1/2 spam.

[extreme]

00:15:750 (1,2,3,1) - 00:31:750 (1,2,3) - nc the whole thing like in the highest diff? Sure.

00:28:000 (1) - hardest diff also handles this part better with increasing difficulty as intensity increases Changed 00:31:000 (1,2,1) - to bring it in line with the rest of this section, as this part does have mostly consistent increasing spacing, but the last part was disappointingly weak in terms of spacing, so I buffed that. If this isn't quite enough, I'm willing to change more but I'll need some suggestions.

[extra]

00:17:625 (1,2,3,4) - Iget what you're doing but it looks so gross lol Best pattern in the whole set IMO - screw the haters mang.

liked this diff the most prob because CS2 is the best CS 2.5 is best tho
fix bolded stuff and call me

I'll wait and update when everyone responds and still waiting on Mbomb to finish up stuff.

Sharkie

343 posts

Joined May 2014

Sharkie 2017-01-11T20:11:50+00:00

fixed aLL (and fixed some of the stuff on my own)

Sharkie's Shitty Shit Shitpert

osu file format v14

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Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-01-12T14:24:03+00:00

Strategas wrote:
[anxient hard]

00:07:000 (1) - don't really like this thing, but if you intend to keep it atleast lower the volume more, it sounds cancer - 30% then

00:15:875 (4) - suppose to be 1/3 - [b]#iTried

00:31:750 (1) - same[/b] - ok

[anxient advanced]

00:07:000 (1) - same as hard - 30%

00:15:750 (4,5,1) - same as hard - same

fix bolded stuff and call me

http://puu.sh/tjN6I/b8b01d52e8.osu= ADV
http://puu.sh/tjN7m/e2f2be1811.osu = HD

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-01-12T14:29:18+00:00

Aeonian Sonder

974 posts

Joined May 2012

Aeonian Sonder 2017-01-14T05:14:08+00:00

I can only mod normal mode difficulties. Sorry

[Shared]
Traumatized, Extreme & Sharkie's Extra
00:19:750 - There's a slider here that's of difference velocity. Would if be possible to add another color to the combo colors to signify different velocity?

[Traumatized]
00:19:500 (3) - I actually prefer to have this object farther from the other preceding objects and the next incoming object.
00:27:875 (3) - I would prefer this object to have increased distance so that the greatest distance is between this object and the next first combo.
00:30:000 (1) - I have a bit of a problem here, not so much that it's basically reusing a slider just to same time mapping a song because some people don't want to make another one, but that it's right under the original object.

00:31:750 (1) - Is it possible to move this somewhere else?

[Extreme]
00:15:500 (1,1) - The first circle feels like it would make players keep going without stopping in search of an object to click, but then sudden the second circle is like "I'm right here."

00:28:750 (4,5,6) - I just feel like the space that's between them is bigger than its counterpart in "Traumatized."
00:29:750 (4,5,6) - Same as above.
I'm aware that it's suppose to be the same spacing between the objects until the last part before kiai, but you could try to make it increasing spacing like in "Traumatized," or just have the spacing be the same, but with smaller gaps (up to the point when the circles barely touch the other circles)

[Extra]
00:17:625 (1,2,3,4) - Rather than decreasing the space between, how about increasing them like how the other pair (00:16:625 (1,2,3,4) & 00:18:625 (1,2,3,4)) does.

[Sharkie's Extra]
00:15:500 (4,5,1) - This is slightly annoying because this is a 1/3 beat, and the first beat isn't sometime like another object, but instead the end of slider 00:15:500 (4). Maybe you could end the slider at 00:15:625 so that an object can begin the 1/3.

00:28:000 - Idea: since it's closing near the end, how about increasing the velocity of the sliders by .1x for the four times that the guitar changes key.

[Exote's Insane]
00:17:000 (3,3) - Um... well... There's isn't anything play here that would really FIT the cymbals. They fit more 00:19:000 (3,4,5,6), but not so much with these two circles.

[Anxient's Hard]
00:07:000 (1) - If I didn't say anything but to tell you remove it, you would probably say something like "oh, but it fits with the guitar that building up in the background," wouldn't you?
...
Just remove it, please. It's not like anything instrument is making any distinctive sounds here.

00:09:875 (4) - Move it diagonally up rather than down.
00:10:875 (4) - Same as above
00:22:375 (2,4) - ^
00:26:375 (2,4) - ^

[Anxient's Advanced]
00:07:000 (1) - Same problem as Hard. I would be more concern for the normal players

[Complaint about Anxient's difficulties]
Anxient's Hard and advance have the exact same beginning 3 objects from 00:04:000. Two circles and a slider. I don't know if you thought that it would be easier for players going from Advanced to the Hard difficulty, but I believe that you could make the beginnings of these two a bit more distinctive, and not just by moving the object somewhere else on the map.
But then, I made a mod about the third object.

[Overall]
Well, it's only 30 seconds long (yeah, 32 seconds, I know, don't correct me). I don't know if anything more is needed...

Exote

416 posts

Joined April 2013

Exote 2017-01-14T13:56:28+00:00

@-APXH

00:17:000 (3,3) - Um... well... There's isn't anything play here that would really FIT the cymbals. They fit more 00:19:000 (3,4,5,6), but not so much with these two circles. - huh? I didn't understand what does not fit here, it just plays and fits fine.

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-01-15T17:20:47+00:00

-APXH wrote:
[Anxient's Hard]
00:07:000 (1) - If I didn't say anything but to tell you remove it, you would probably say something like "oh, but it fits with the guitar that building up in the background," wouldn't you?
...
Just remove it, please. It's not like anything instrument is making any distinctive sounds here. - nope. im keeping it there because i think it fits. i legit cant think of a better reason than that, but thats what im going with.

00:09:875 (4) - Move it diagonally up rather than down.
00:10:875 (4) - Same as above
00:22:375 (2,4) - ^
00:26:375 (2,4) - ^ - theyre all autostack, cant do jack squat about it. besides, moving it diagonally up would make it 10x weaker than how i did it.

[Anxient's Advanced]
00:07:000 (1) - Same problem as Hard. I would be more concern for the normal players - if the BNs think that this is fine, its probably fine. besides, the diff below this is literally as fast as this. its a bridge between normal --> hard, im pretty sure people can handle this.

[Complaint about Anxient's difficulties]
Anxient's Hard and advance have the exact same beginning 3 objects from 00:04:000. Two circles and a slider. I don't know if you thought that it would be easier for players going from Advanced to the Hard difficulty, but I believe that you could make the beginnings of these two a bit more distinctive, and not just by moving the object somewhere else on the map.
But then, I made a mod about the third object. - its fine. i coulve rotated it 90 degrees but that wouldve made it look horrible. if it aint broken, dont fix it. i dont see a reason why this is an issue really.

thanks for modding tho~

Sharkie

343 posts

Joined May 2014

Sharkie 2017-01-17T02:53:57+00:00

-APXH wrote:
[Sharkie's Extra]
00:15:500 (4,5,1) - This is slightly annoying because this is a 1/3 beat, and the first beat isn't sometime like another object, but instead the end of slider
00:15:500 (4). Maybe you could end the slider at 00:15:625 so that an object can begin the 1/3.
I disagree, this plays fine.
00:28:000 - Idea: since it's closing near the end, how about increasing the velocity of the sliders by .1x for the four times that the guitar changes key.
Well, I'd prefer to keep the difficulty below 5 stars, so that it fits the spread. I would not want to increase the difficulty anymore than it is now.

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,950 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-01-17T04:31:51+00:00

No kudosu
Recheck before either Deif or JBH approves because no one else is capable of the 8*

Rain
00:05:500 (3,4) - Just make this dash smaller since the guitar is the same, unnecessarily hard to catch
00:10:125 (2,3) - Isn't this kind of far?
00:22:750 (5,1) - Same
00:23:750 (4,1) - Edge dash
00:24:125 (2,3) - Antiflow might be too strong for this spacing, could reduce by move slider to right + reduces hyper distance from previous point
00:29:500 (4,5) - Spacing is too small for hardest part of song
00:31:125 (2,3) - That distance is kind of flow breaking since the slider is quite small compared to the jump
tbh might have been easier to map if the SV was higher but it's fine

Overdose
00:10:125 (2) - Split slider into circles and use even spacing for better dash leniency
00:12:625 (5,6) - ^
00:14:000 (1,2) - Opinion but the anti flow distance might be too far, since the platter speed decreases more on the triple compared to the next similar pattern, which has a slider instead
00:22:125 (2) - that's kind of an awkward slow down in speed
00:23:000 (1,2) - Spacing might be too large because of the antiflow triple before
00:26:750 (6,7,8) - That was a really intense section before, could change this so it flows left for an easier catch
00:30:125 (2) - Spacing too small, use circles
00:33:000 (5) - Still too harsh

Imagination is probably the best ctb diff in the set right now, I'd say it'd be ready for ranking after a qat check

good luck

Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cryptic 2017-01-21T00:45:43+00:00

-APXH wrote:
I can only mod normal mode difficulties. Sorry

[Shared]
Traumatized, Extreme & Sharkie's Extra
00:19:750 - There's a slider here that's of difference velocity. Would if be possible to add another color to the combo colors to signify different velocity? Not required, it's been a super long time since sliders have shown up. The timing point would have the same effect anywhere in that span of time so moving it or NC'ing would be pointless.

[Traumatized]
00:19:500 (3) - I actually prefer to have this object farther from the other preceding objects and the next incoming object. Any particular reason as to why? Personally, I find the current composition to sound as if it's slowly building up to a halt just to unleash itself again, making my pattern feel more accurate (to me at least).
00:27:875 (3) - I would prefer this object to have increased distance so that the greatest distance is between this object and the next first combo. But the most intense note in this 00:27:625 (1,2,3) - pattern is actually the 1>2, so giving 3 more spacing would be unjustified and poor mapping.
00:30:000 (1) - I have a bit of a problem here, not so much that it's basically reusing a slider just to same time mapping a song because some people don't want to make another one, but that it's right under the original object. ...Okay? Sorry? I think it's fine...
00:31:750 (1) - Is it possible to move this somewhere else? Anything is possible if you believe in yourself, but this placement is fine.

[Extreme]
00:15:500 (1,1) - The first circle feels like it would make players keep going without stopping in search of an object to click, but then sudden the second circle is like "I'm right here." ...Alright? The vocals end abruptly, so I tried to echo that in the mapping.
00:28:750 (4,5,6) - I just feel like the space that's between them is bigger than its counterpart in "Traumatized." The themes behind the difficulties are different, and they are a bit larger. This one has always had some form of movement attached to it's triplets and other elements of the map overall, so it felt right to continue that in the buildup.
00:29:750 (4,5,6) - Same as above. Same as above.
I'm aware that it's suppose to be the same spacing between the objects until the last part before kiai, but you could try to make it increasing spacing like in "Traumatized," or just have the spacing be the same, but with smaller gaps (up to the point when the circles barely touch the other circles) The spacing does increase, its just more subtle since its a lower diff. I feel like if I were to increase it enough to notice it would either ruin the spread or make the ending too hard.

[Extra]
00:17:625 (1,2,3,4) - Rather than decreasing the space between, how about increasing them like how the other pair (00:16:625 (1,2,3,4) & 00:18:625 (1,2,3,4)) does. Following pitch so decreasing makes sense.

@Lasse: Thank you, fixed.

Updated, removed MBomb's diffs (today was his deadline, sorry Sinnoh). Calling Strategas back and calling other BN here.

Strategas

1,378 posts

Joined July 2013

Strategas 2017-01-21T01:08:51+00:00

b

Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cryptic 2017-01-21T01:18:59+00:00

Thanks Strat~
winter 2017 anime here we come

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-01-21T01:22:48+00:00

PogChamp

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,950 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-01-21T06:48:45+00:00

mbomb couldn't reply because his computer was broken

He could potentially finish the spread in another set since it only needs platter/salad to be rankable, next time i guess

edit: remove magic bomb from the tags, not something worth making an extra post for.

Last edited by Xinnoh 2017-01-21T13:24:18+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cryptic 2017-01-21T06:56:51+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
mbomb couldn't reply because his computer was broken

He could potentially finish the spread in another set since it only needs platter/salad to be rankable, next time i guess

I talked to him about it on discord last week and after I removed the diffs today, the agreement we had was he had to have them ready by today. So ye
But it won't be too hard to make a few extra diffs and finish it on another set, so I hope he does

Edit: It's fine in game and on the actual beatmap page, just broke in the forum - I edited it.

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-01-22T02:16:11+00:00

TRAUMATIZED

00:15:250 (2,3) - This just baits people into misclicking imo... I think it's better to space it out normally, since the rhythm here isn't that different from elsewhere.
00:25:250 (3,1) - This placement just feels too close together, Like between the slider-end and circle.,
00:27:250 (2,3) - I really don't recommend doing this right before cross screen jumps. You end up killing player momentum unnecessarily by forcing them to basically pause for 1/2 a beat.
00:31:833 (1,1) - There's potential for a stack patter here, I think you just need a better angle.
00:32:000 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Nice!

EXTREME

00:23:500 (3,4,1,2,3,1,2) - A lot of patterns are just stacked under each other here, and it creates this cramped up feeling in the map. I would use more of the screen and not overuse similar locations so much here.

EXTRA

00:08:500 (3,4) - This is the only time you use a partial overlap for like the next 12 seconds, so it doesn't realy fit your aesthetics.
00:20:750 (4) - Repeat is still a bit hard to see. Have the slider be half overlapped instead of like 75%? That way half of the arrow can be seen, and not just the tip.

Use the control points for reference

Sharkie's EXPERT

00:19:000 (1,2,3,4) - Make these even? The spacing change isn't necessary imo.
00:30:500 (3) - Ctrl+G flows better imo.

Exote's INSANE

00:26:250 (2,4) - Really hard to see the repeat arrow on 4 imo. Can you position it more rightward.

Sharkie

343 posts

Joined May 2014

Sharkie 2017-01-22T03:50:29+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Sharkie's EXPERT

00:19:000 (1,2,3,4) - Make these even? The spacing change isn't necessary imo.
Done.
00:30:500 (3) - Ctrl+G flows better imo.
Done.
Exote's INSANE

Thanks Monster-ata!!11

Sharkie's Shark Shark

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Cryptic

551 posts

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Topic Starter

Cryptic 2017-01-22T08:12:28+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
TRAUMATIZED

00:15:250 (2,3) - This just baits people into misclicking imo... I think it's better to space it out normally, since the rhythm here isn't that different from elsewhere. I honestly can't recall the original reasoning and at this point I agree with you, so I tried some stuff. Let me know if you have a better idea, I'm tentative about the way I changed it.
00:25:250 (3,1) - This placement just feels too close together, Like between the slider-end and circle., Moved circle.
00:27:250 (2,3) - I really don't recommend doing this right before cross screen jumps. You end up killing player momentum unnecessarily by forcing them to basically pause for 1/2 a beat. Yeah, I definitely agree that this stop here makes the next jumps really hard, it was originally intended to mimic the earlier section, so I made it mimic the changed earlier section.
00:31:833 (1,1) - There's potential for a stack patter here, I think you just need a better angle. Changed, too many people pointed it out.
00:32:000 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Nice! Thanks!

EXTREME

00:23:500 (3,4,1,2,3,1,2) - A lot of patterns are just stacked under each other here, and it creates this cramped up feeling in the map. I would use more of the screen and not overuse similar locations so much here. I can't really find any alternative patterns with the same DS and the same flow changes as I have in other places. While I agree that this section feels more cramped than others, I also think thats its not particularly hard to read and that it doesn't feel anymore cramped than 00:09:000 (1,2,3) - or 00:26:000 (1,2,3) - . With that being said, if you have a good alternative that maintains a very similar DS and similar flow changes, I'm definitely willing to change it as long as it doesn't deter from the maps' structure.

EXTRA

00:08:500 (3,4) - This is the only time you use a partial overlap for like the next 12 seconds, so it doesn't realy fit your aesthetics. Yeaaaah, I don't know why I CTRL+J'd this before, fixed it though.
00:20:750 (4) - Repeat is still a bit hard to see. Have the slider be half overlapped instead of like 75%? That way half of the arrow can be seen, and not just the tip. Done.
Use the control points for reference

Will update after Exote responds and call you back~
Thank you!

Exote

416 posts

Joined April 2013

Exote 2017-01-22T12:36:24+00:00

@Monstrata

fixd

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Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cryptic 2017-01-22T15:43:35+00:00

Updated.

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-01-23T03:28:51+00:00

Qualified!

Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cryptic 2017-01-23T03:29:02+00:00

Thank you! Hype~

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Anxient

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Joined June 2014

Anxient 2017-01-23T04:30:26+00:00

ZUTTZUTT

wuaaa

Exote

416 posts

Joined April 2013

Exote 2017-01-23T05:17:15+00:00

Shit song, solid set : ^) gz

Sonnyc

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Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2017-01-23T13:30:13+00:00

General.
-- Why is "MY SONG IS SHIT" on the tags? It really feels some inappropriate contents to be inside the tags, and if it is related with the song officially, I'd like to get some reference regarding that. Unless, removing it would work safe.
-- Dark concepted combo color along a dark BG wasn't really good enough to properly read the approach circles. Though it isn't really merging with the BG, I strongly recommend you to use an alternative for a fair gameplay.
-- Imo, the sound appears at least from 00:01:750, and the point where the spinner starts felt a lot questionable.

Exote's Normal.
Personally ar5 felt way too fast to get used at the lowest difficulty of a 240bpm song imo.

Anxient's Advanced.
00:19:500 (3,1) - 00:33:000 (3,1) - These were the jumps appearing in this diff. Would be fine as it is, but considering this is one of the difficulty consisting a mapset, you'll want to take a look at your Hard. Even the hard diff is mainly having some large spacing, you didn't used a concept of a jump at these parts. I consider these jumps in Advanced to be a difficult concept than the ones used in hard, and therefore recommend you to get rid of these jumps.

Sharkie's Expert.
Overall, I do not consider this difficulty to be readied for a rank. The map lacks proper structures or technical skills to support the mapper's ideas on expressing the song. To start with one of the beginning patterns: 00:08:000 (1,2,3,4) - the sliders has some similar angled shape, and the rhythms are 1/2 -> 1/4 reverse -> 1/2 -> 1/4 reverse. Concept so far was fine, but then not much skills were presented here to create some quality. Let me ask you some questions. 00:08:000 (1,2) - this is having a 1.26x, is this your base spacing? 00:08:250 (2,3) - You've used a jump here. In which part of the song do you wanted to express this jump concept? Is it used consistently? How did you decided the scale of this jump? 00:08:000 (1,3) - these are overlapping each other. Not directly unrankable indeed, but such placement or relationship between a shape that was intended to be similar was neither creating any extra quality. 00:08:500 (3,4) - the concept of a 1/4 after a 1/2 slider repeated, but the placement concept has changed a lot. Why did the spacing increase to 1.38x while the one you were using at 00:08:000 (1,2) was only 1.26x? (2) was heading outside of the previous slider, but why is (4) heading towards the previous slider? Was there any musical difference to use such inconsistency? Such question goes on the whole map.

00:06:000 (1,1) - I pretty much feel the overlaps being really hard to indicate the covered one as a slider.
00:15:000 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 00:31:500 (3,4,1) - These mapping concepts you are using are not properly indicating the 1/3 rhythms. Since it is using slider leniency, it is playable. While these two were the distinctive 1/3 rhythms in this map, the way you mapped is just an ordinary slider with a spacing concept that is nothing much different from others. If there was no timeline providen, there is less way to tell this is 1/3 and it isn't good in quality.

Extreme.
00:11:250 (2,3) - 00:23:000 (1,2) - I hope the overlaps of each could be polished more. The overlaps between sliderends/sliderheads didn't really looked aesthetically pleasing, considering how you've successfully managed to do at 00:26:000 (1,2,3,4).
00:27:750 (1) - Do you think the nc is necessary? It made the slider of 00:27:500 (1) single comboed, which made some inconsistent feeling apart 00:27:000 (1,2). Also since the drum beat is pretty much consistent since 00:27:625, removing the nc of the circle would work better. I don't think it would hinder playability.

ehh was considering to pop this but I was a little late.

Lanturn

osu! Alumni

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Lanturn 2017-01-23T13:52:11+00:00

MY SONG IS SHIT is actually the name of the circle apparently lol.

https://msis.jimdo.com/

Sonnyc

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Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2017-01-23T14:19:49+00:00

Lanturn wrote:
MY SONG IS SHIT is actually the name of the circle apparently lol.

https://msis.jimdo.com/

demn they are cool bois

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

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Okoratu 2017-01-23T15:24:45+00:00

Cryptic

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Joined December 2013

Topic Starter

Cryptic 2017-01-23T15:24:47+00:00

Gonna respond properly later when I get the chance but I definitely agree with the combo colors and the AR thing, so requesting a DQ to expedite the process.
Thank you for the mod!

Sharkie

343 posts

Joined May 2014

Sharkie 2017-01-23T15:44:21+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Sharkie's Expert.
Overall, I do not consider this difficulty to be readied for a rank. The map lacks proper structures or technical skills to support the mapper's ideas on expressing the song.

To start with one of the beginning patterns: 00:08:000 (1,2,3,4) - the sliders has some similar angled shape, and the rhythms are 1/2 -> 1/4 reverse -> 1/2 -> 1/4 reverse. Concept so far was fine, but then not much skills were presented here to create some quality. Let me ask you some questions. 00:08:000 (1,2) - this is having a 1.26x, is this your base spacing?
Nah, didn't really have a base spacing in mid. Wanted this diff to be a in a way, a "Light Extra", where spacing isn't always exactly the same, even for small spacings.
00:08:250 (2,3) - You've used a jump here. In which part of the song do you wanted to express this jump concept? Is it used consistently? How did you decided the scale of this jump? 00:08:000 (1,3) - these are overlapping each other. Not directly unrankable indeed, but such placement or relationship between a shape that was intended to be similar was neither creating any extra quality.
A couple of inconsistencies are fine, that's part of style. Generally, the overlaps do create a shape and consistency throughout the map.

00:08:500 (3,4) - the concept of a 1/4 after a 1/2 slider repeated, but the placement concept has changed a lot. Why did the spacing increase to 1.38x while the one you were using at 00:08:000 (1,2) was only 1.26x? (2) was heading outside of the previous slider, but why is (4) heading towards the previous slider? Was there any musical difference to use such inconsistency? Such question goes on the whole map.
As stated earlier, in mapping Hard Insanes/Light Extras, they really should introduce the player to varying spacings as most Extras do, in addition, the playability is fine.
00:06:000 (1,1) - I pretty much feel the overlaps being really hard to indicate the covered one as a slider.
I disagree, its very easy to read and see the new slider.
00:15:000 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - 00:31:500 (3,4,1) - These mapping concepts you are using are not properly indicating the 1/3 rhythms. Since it is using slider leniency, it is playable. While these two were the distinctive 1/3 rhythms in this map, the way you mapped is just an ordinary slider with a spacing concept that is nothing much different from others. If there was no timeline providen, there is less way to tell this is 1/3 and it isn't good in quality.
That was done for the sake of difficulty, in addition, I wanted a different rhythm than what Cryptic had used in his diffs, so its not boring. I have asked many players about that pattern and it plays fine. Again, what I prefer doing in these difficulties is introducing concepts in Extras, but they're still not that hard to play. This makes it less awkward for when players learn more about the different techniques mappers use in mapping Extras.

Sonnyc

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Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2017-01-23T16:08:31+00:00

Nah, didn't really have a base spacing in mid. Wanted this diff to be a in a way, a "Light Extra", where spacing isn't always exactly the same, even for small spacings.

Okay, and guess that's why I've got the whole feeling of an inconsistency and whatever feeling of the diff being not ready yet.

Not using the same spacing all the time doesn't mean that you can just completely forget about the spacing concepts and use 100 kinds of random inconsistent spacings. If every spacing just differs by time to time, they hardly form any consistent structure inside a map. This such goes even before the decision of jumps. 00:08:750 (4,1,2) - 00:20:000 (1,2,3) - each placement uses a close 1/2 distance, but why is one 1.1x while the other is 1.0x? Do you really consider such inconsistency to be forming a structure? At the early part, 00:08:250 (2,3) has a jump but then 00:20:250 (2,3) is containing no jump. In where did you form a consistency or structures?

Maybe I was inaccurate regarding the overlapped slider. It is fine as long as you've got testplays regarding it, since I thought it to be some playability issue.

However the 1/3 thingy wasn't an issue regarding playability. As I said, slider leniency is being used. Players would deal it nicely enough. The issue is regarding spacing concepts which lays under the beatmap quality. The spacing concept that appears in the 1/3 rhythm shows no major difference with other normal 1/2 objects, and that is why I consider this to be not high enough in quality. This goes far back to the beginning that you weren't thinking about some base spacing concepts. If there was a major difference of spacing concepts to indicate a 1/2 and 1/3 respectively, I wouldn't even have mentioned this issue.

If you disagree with my statements regarding how the map wasn't good enough, then I'd like to hear your opinion regarding "why the map is good under the current design". It doesn't necessarily have to be a point by point arguement of my concerns.

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