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hahahahahahaha that's actually a good suggestion xDDD based on retries and map length or drain time. It may also help to show how consistent or inconsistent the player is. And... I guess it could be called either patience or determination.-Tatsuo wrote:
you could add patience for retrying a map a lot
I actually threw this idea around and it was concluded you should look at your pp instead.snyviper wrote:
It may also help to show how consistent or inconsistent the player is.
Well.. I said "may" as a possibility, forgive my english. But I like the idea of patience/determination xD it's funny, so... I think it's worth discussing about it, even if it ends up not being one of the skills in the future.abraker wrote:
I actually threw this idea around and it was concluded you should look at your pp instead.snyviper wrote:
It may also help to show how consistent or inconsistent the player is.
Chat! Chat! Chat! confirmed much harder to aim than Remote Control.
Im rank #7 global stamina but today I failed defenders because the streams were too stamina for me
4k is better
4k is better
Can you add a way to search scores by value ? I'm looking to improve my aim and it would be great if I could find all maps that give say between 550 and 650 aim score
If I'm right, this was written somewhere as the goal of osu!Skills, to be able to show people how much a map would award for each skill... but some months ago I was confused (I still am) because I just couldn't find it written anywhere again... Is my mind just tricking me, or any of you developers really wrote it somewhere?Shiro wrote:
Can you add a way to search scores by value ? I'm looking to improve my aim and it would be great if I could find all maps that give say between 550 and 650 aim score
Also, the IAHN map is broken on osu!skills, and you all probably know that. It wouldn't normally become ranked due to the way it was mapped, but it did reach ranked due to that mapping contest. What about disabling it on osu!Skills, at least for reaction and agility, so ranking would be more... fair?
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/108296
This map is not supported, it don't exist when I want to add it and the ID is consider invalid
Please fix this.Thanks
This map is not supported, it don't exist when I want to add it and the ID is consider invalid
Please fix this.Thanks
they're not going to remove it, they're adding loved maps in the future which would break agility / reaction even moreso due to the amount of 2B maps already in the categorysnyviper wrote:
Also, the IAHN map is broken on osu!skills, and you all probably know that. It wouldn't normally become ranked due to the way it was mapped, but it did reach ranked due to that mapping contest. What about disabling it on osu!Skills, at least for reaction and agility, so ranking would be more... fair?
not to mention the literally-only-aim-maps that are in it as well LUL
Theoretically you can't break something that is already found brokenfieryrage wrote:
they're not going to remove it, they're adding loved maps in the future which would break agility / reaction even moreso due to the amount of 2B maps already in the category
I have submitted a fix for the reaction skill, which should put it more closer to the other skills.
Use the /b ID not the /s one. I manually submitted it for you:TheLordKiwi wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/108296
This map is not supported, it don't exist when I want to add it and the ID is consider invalid
Please fix this.Thanks
Is there a reason why aim values are not affected by CS?
Ok, thanksabraker wrote:
Use the /b ID not the /s one. I manually submitted it for you:
cs factors into precision, not agilityIcyteru wrote:
Is there a reason why aim values are not affected by CS?
I mean, as a temporary fix... When they add the loved beatmaps (if they do add them), they would have probably reworked agility and reaction, so they can activate the IAHN map again with no issues.fieryrage wrote:
they're not going to remove it, they're adding loved maps in the future which would break agility / reaction even moreso due to the amount of 2B maps already in the categorysnyviper wrote:
Also, the IAHN map is broken on osu!skills, and you all probably know that. It wouldn't normally become ranked due to the way it was mapped, but it did reach ranked due to that mapping contest. What about disabling it on osu!Skills, at least for reaction and agility, so ranking would be more... fair?
i hope so but i mentioned this issue as soon as aspire was ranked with it giving too much agility/reactionsnyviper wrote:
I mean, as a temporary fix... When they add the loved beatmaps (if they do add them), they would have probably reworked agility and reaction, so they can activate the IAHN map again with no issues.
and besides, that's not the reason i'm saying loved maps will break agility, cuz 90% of them are aim maps
Precision is broken though - it pretty much only takes into account CS. It makes no sense for airman HR to give the same aim as airman nomod, and airman HR to give the same precision as some random TV size with HR.
Why is HD highly underweighted, when it goes to Reaction?
Comparing mine and other people FCs' I noticed that the same AR10.87 scores what are worth about 884 reaction points with HR,DT, are worth only 816 reaction points with HD,HR,DT.
The same with playing AR11: the very top people in Reaction ranking have +HR,DT plays and avoid HD on purpose, to farm more points.
Could someone explain why playing without Hidden requires much more reaction than while playing with HD?
Comparing mine and other people FCs' I noticed that the same AR10.87 scores what are worth about 884 reaction points with HR,DT, are worth only 816 reaction points with HD,HR,DT.
The same with playing AR11: the very top people in Reaction ranking have +HR,DT plays and avoid HD on purpose, to farm more points.
Could someone explain why playing without Hidden requires much more reaction than while playing with HD?
In HD the note fades in much faster than no mod, so you see it sooner. Same with mods. This makes HRDT harder to react to than HDHRDTScarlet Evans wrote:
Could someone explain why playing without Hidden requires much more reaction than while playing with HD?
With HD enabled, objects are fully faded in after 40% of the AR window (so on ar10 with 450ms, it's faded in after 180ms). Without HD enabled, fade-in time is a static 400ms.
But in both cases approach time, the real time you have to react, is 450 ms, right? Isn't taking fading into account by player more like memorisation and predicting when you should click the circle, while the time you have to react is the same? Or I don't understand the subject properly? I mean, even if it fades faster, it appears in the same time, so you have the same time to react, right?
Nope.Scarlet Evans wrote:
But in both cases approach time, the real time you have to react, is 450 ms, right? Isn't taking fading into account by player more like memorisation and predicting when you should click the circle, while the time you have to react is the same? Or I don't understand the subject properly? I mean, even if it fades faster, it appears in the same time, so you have the same time to react, right?
In the example provided:
so on ar10 with 450ms, it's faded in after 180msIt's fully faded in at 180ms, leaving you with 270 ms reaction time requirement on HD assuming you suddenly see the object at 100%. Code uses somewhere between 40-60% iirc (am on mobile so will need to check, so will use 40% for this example). That means that the object is 40% faded in at 72ms giving us with a 378ms reaction time requirement. On no mod, the object is fully faded in at 450ms, meaning it's 40% faded in at 180ms, giving us a 270ms reaction time requirement.
40% fade-in @ NM: 270ms reaction time
40% fade-in @ HD: 378 ms reaction time
The sooner you see the circle the sooner you have to realize where it is located, the more time you have to react and move the cursor there. While both start fading in at the same time, HD fades in faster, allowing you to percieve the note sooner.
Interesting.. I didn't know that... I always thought there was another reason for HDHR having rewarded less than HR...
http://osuskills.tk/user/DavidStylez this guys' hacked scores need to be cleared or smth
What do you mean by NoMod circles fading away? I never noticed anything like that :Oabraker wrote:
Nope.Scarlet Evans wrote:
But in both cases approach time, the real time you have to react, is 450 ms, right? Isn't taking fading into account by player more like memorisation and predicting when you should click the circle, while the time you have to react is the same? Or I don't understand the subject properly? I mean, even if it fades faster, it appears in the same time, so you have the same time to react, right?
In the example provided:so on ar10 with 450ms, it's faded in after 180msIt's fully faded in at 180ms, leaving you with 270 ms reaction time requirement on HD assuming you suddenly see the object at 100%. Code uses somewhere between 40-60% iirc (am on mobile so will need to check, so will use 40% for this example). That means that the object is 40% faded in at 72ms giving us with a 378ms reaction time requirement. On no mod, the object is fully faded in at 450ms, meaning it's 40% faded in at 180ms, giving us a 270ms reaction time requirement.
40% fade-in @ NM: 270ms reaction time
40% fade-in @ HD: 378 ms reaction time
The sooner you see the circle the sooner you have to realize where it is located, the more time you have to react and move the cursor there. While both start fading in at the same time, HD fades in faster, allowing you to percieve the note sooner.
I just tried to compare some AR0 + HT plays, using CE's [5] frame-by-frame speed key, with HD and without it and I fail to notice anything other than nomod circle disappearing... after it's clicked or missed, which doesn't affect reaction at all (because that happened in past).
For me, from what I see, the circle and approach circle both appear exactly at the same time on screen and the circle persists, until it's missed or clicked. Nothing fades away. At least on CuttingEdge.
Both on NoMod and HD circle appears not immediately, but a little faded, however it's really a tiny amount of time and I don't see a time difference in how long it takes for NoMod and Hidden circles to reach their normal state and stay on screen for these XXX milliseconds.
In other words, you start seeing HD and NoMod circle at the same time. The difference is that you see NoMod all the time, while HD starts to fade away, but it doesn't really affect your reaction. You already registered that there is a circle, both with HD and without it, within the exact time brackets. Now, with HD, it's more like a memory that "there is a circle here" from now on, rather than an actual change in the reaction time needed, because the Approach Time is not affected by HD in any way.
In other words, there's "an animation time" and the difference is that with HD it still happens and takes the same time, but it's just faded away and invisible for us. Nevertheless, it was no less or more visible for us for a certain extend of time and it appeared at the same moment at which NoMod circle would appear, so there's no really any difference in reaction time needed.
(1) Circle appears on screen, at the same time on HD and NM;
(2) Now, you perceive the circle and your time to react starts here;
(3) If it's Hidden, then circle starts to fade-in after some timespan;
(4) You reach the Perfect Click moment and your Reaction Time ends here. After that you can still get 300,100 or 50, but you clicked too late.
(5) Time you had to react is the one that lapses between (2) and (4), which isn't really affected by HD.
This is how I see this. But of course, I can be terribly wrong, as with anything I ever say
So, I'd really love you to explain more what is this NoMod fading-in that you say about
Fade-in: The circle first appears transparent, then it's opacity gradually increases over time.Scarlet Evans wrote:
What do you mean by NoMod circles fading away? I never noticed anything like that :O
I just tried to compare some AR0 + HT plays, using CE's [5] frame-by-frame speed key, with HD and without it and I fail to notice anything other than nomod circle disappearing... after it's clicked or missed, which doesn't affect reaction at all (because that happened in past).
For me, from what I see, the circle and approach circle both appear exactly at the same time on screen and the circle persists, until it's missed or clicked. Nothing fades away. At least on CuttingEdge.
Both on NoMod and HD circle appears not immediately, but a little faded, however it's really a tiny amount of time and I don't see a time difference in how long it takes for NoMod and Hidden circles to reach their normal state and stay on screen for these XXX milliseconds.
In other words, you start seeing HD and NoMod circle at the same time. The difference is that you see NoMod all the time, while HD starts to fade away, but it doesn't really affect your reaction. You already registered that there is a circle, both with HD and without it, within the exact time brackets. Now, with HD, it's more like a memory that "there is a circle here" from now on, rather than an actual change in the reaction time needed, because the Approach Time is not affected by HD in any way.
In other words, there's "an animation time" and the difference is that with HD it still happens and takes the same time, but it's just faded away and invisible for us. Nevertheless, it was no less or more visible for us for a certain extend of time and it appeared at the same moment at which NoMod circle would appear, so there's no really any difference in reaction time needed.
(1) Circle appears on screen, at the same time on HD and NM;
(2) Now, you perceive the circle and your time to react starts here;
(3) If it's Hidden, then circle starts to fade-in after some timespan;
(4) You reach the Perfect Click moment and your Reaction Time ends here. After that you can still get 300,100 or 50, but you clicked too late.
(5) Time you had to react is the one that lapses between (2) and (4), which isn't really affected by HD.
This is how I see this. But of course, I can be terribly wrong, as with anything I ever say
So, I'd really love you to explain more what is this NoMod fading-in that you say about
Fade-out: The circle, after some time, starts losing opacity over time. This only happens with HD.
Comparing a recording of the game screen at 120fps, on the same map (Cheatreal, AR10+DT), both HD and no-mod appear at the same time with the same opacity (barely visible), but the speed it gains opacity during the fade-in with HD is higher than no-mod.
I think I've got it, thanks!
But how do you judge at which moment of fading in player notices the circle? People can actually perceive it a little faster, going for 100% of visibility can be not fully fair.
edit: I didn't noticed that what an online dictionary showed me in summary was definition of just fading, but under the name of fading-in, not fading-in, my bad ;_;
But how do you judge at which moment of fading in player notices the circle? People can actually perceive it a little faster, going for 100% of visibility can be not fully fair.
edit: I didn't noticed that what an online dictionary showed me in summary was definition of just fading, but under the name of fading-in, not fading-in, my bad ;_;
just wondering, now that Hatsune Miku - Kouon Chu Oniki Test is loved-- once adding maps of the category to osu!skills would the 0108 diff be worth tons of stamina due to having an infinity (or 2,949,075? not sure if it's 1/65535 or 1/∞) BPM quad in it? or is it not long enough to count
I have ran that map through the algorithm, and it's fine.unko wrote:
just wondering, now that Hatsune Miku - Kouon Chu Oniki Test is loved-- once adding maps of the category to osu!skills would the 0108 diff be worth tons of stamina due to having an infinity (or 2,949,075? not sure if it's 1/65535 or 1/∞) BPM quad in it? or is it not long enough to count
omg do isogu 290bpmabraker wrote:
I have ran that map through the algorithm, and it's fine.unko wrote:
just wondering, now that Hatsune Miku - Kouon Chu Oniki Test is loved-- once adding maps of the category to osu!skills would the 0108 diff be worth tons of stamina due to having an infinity (or 2,949,075? not sure if it's 1/65535 or 1/∞) BPM quad in it? or is it not long enough to count
Can you also make a nifty tool so people can run unranked maps through the aalgorithms
Such tool already does exist, and it's what we use in the back end. It's up to Kert if he wants to release it though.Dawnsday wrote:
Can you also make a nifty tool so people can run unranked maps through the aalgorithms
Right,
So I haven't been on osu!skills in a while, and I wanted to check my user stats
I went onto the site and typed in "Karma", expecting to see my profile, I didn't I saw some Italian with the username KaRmA.
Odd.
So I try my old username I changed a few months ago which was "SparKticas"
TL;DR - If i try search my name Karma, I dont find me, I have to search my old username.
Does this mean that it's not updated?
So I haven't been on osu!skills in a while, and I wanted to check my user stats
I went onto the site and typed in "Karma", expecting to see my profile, I didn't I saw some Italian with the username KaRmA.
Odd.
So I try my old username I changed a few months ago which was "SparKticas"
TL;DR - If i try search my name Karma, I dont find me, I have to search my old username.
Does this mean that it's not updated?
I'll tell kert to update itKarma wrote:
TL;DR - If i try search my name Karma, I dont find me, I have to search my old username.
Does this mean that it's not updated?
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6639910
so whilst this map was qualified i set the highest score ( the 88% one) and when it got ranked i decided to submit it to osuskills seeing as i'd thought it would count, it didn't. i then make a few other scores (as seen in the screenshot), submitting all of them. none have yet to submit? what's going on
so whilst this map was qualified i set the highest score ( the 88% one) and when it got ranked i decided to submit it to osuskills seeing as i'd thought it would count, it didn't. i then make a few other scores (as seen in the screenshot), submitting all of them. none have yet to submit? what's going on
Have you tried manually adding them?Chemistry wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6639910
so whilst this map was qualified i set the highest score ( the 88% one) and when it got ranked i decided to submit it to osuskills seeing as i'd thought it would count, it didn't. i then make a few other scores (as seen in the screenshot), submitting all of them. none have yet to submit? what's going on
yesabraker wrote:
Have you tried manually adding them?Chemistry wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6639910
so whilst this map was qualified i set the highest score ( the 88% one) and when it got ranked i decided to submit it to osuskills seeing as i'd thought it would count, it didn't. i then make a few other scores (as seen in the screenshot), submitting all of them. none have yet to submit? what's going on
Did you use ctrl+F to search? This is on your agility:Chemistry wrote:
yesabraker wrote:
Have you tried manually adding them?
So you are saying the value should be lower?unko wrote:
um, this map with DT is ridiculously overweighted for stamina, so much so that i can only put it to some sort of error/mischief in calculation
it's ranking with 300bpm deathstream maps (804 points for 4xmiss), yet it's only 234... is it perhaps the doubles?
very, it's valued higher than reunion (15 second 276bpm stream section, 802 points for 0xmiss), fascination maxx (long 300bpm stream section, 846 for 1xmiss), and about the same as gekishou (65 note 300bpm stream, 897 for 0xmiss)abraker wrote:
So you are saying the value should be lower?unko wrote:
um, this map with DT is ridiculously overweighted for stamina, so much so that i can only put it to some sort of error/mischief in calculation
it's ranking with 300bpm deathstream maps (804 points for 4xmiss), yet it's only 234... is it perhaps the doubles?
native faith's deathstream is about 40 notes longer and 25bpm higher, yet it's worth over 100 points less for an fc if i'm right
Yeah, but they don't have 1/4 stream jumps. I'm not sure how that factors in though.
it updated cause i got a better score on it, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6655821
my stamina hasn't gone up since though, 542 before (this score is 600 stamina) still 542
my stamina hasn't gone up since though, 542 before (this score is 600 stamina) still 542
I think it's because the circles weren't hidden enough by the darkness-Jukke- wrote:
there is definitely something wrong with the memory stat
in my room FL is WAY harder than any of those and took me way more retries than all the others combined
(Sight reading)
Even if it was ar11 with 800bpm a stream with fl doesn't count much as long you can sight read
I found out about many useful things and some game mechanics perks here, so forgive me that I will ask one more thing that keeps me wonder =-) [I am HD player, just in case this matters]
Playing very high AR, I find it much easier to hit the sliders. I don't really mean slider's leniency, which don't really punish you for bad acc on score v1, but I have an impression that they are literally kind of easier to react to.
Is this just an impression or there is something behind this, like a slightly more time to react for sliders?
Or maybe I just perceive them easier because they are bigger and more visible, while there's nothing what technically makes them easier?
It really makes me curious
Playing very high AR, I find it much easier to hit the sliders. I don't really mean slider's leniency, which don't really punish you for bad acc on score v1, but I have an impression that they are literally kind of easier to react to.
Is this just an impression or there is something behind this, like a slightly more time to react for sliders?
Or maybe I just perceive them easier because they are bigger and more visible, while there's nothing what technically makes them easier?
It really makes me curious
I noticed this too, but have not really looked much into it. I will see what that is about when I get a chance to.Scarlet Evans wrote:
Is this just an impression or there is something behind this, like a slightly more time to react for sliders?
I have not found any fade in variation between hitcircles and sliders, so the only thing left is to suspect that we better react to moving objects. Having snaking sliders enabled will do this.abraker wrote:
I noticed this too, but have not really looked much into it. I will see what that is about when I get a chance to.Scarlet Evans wrote:
Is this just an impression or there is something behind this, like a slightly more time to react for sliders?
Would be nice if i could submit a score that wasn't my best on a map...
You canLick wrote:
Would be nice if i could submit a score that wasn't my best on a map...
You need to use "Manual score input" on your profile page, it's located on player's profile, little below the scores:http://puu.sh/sOkx9/2f1a3d4f3a.png
Now, you need to write in ID of map or link of it. For example, for
Renard - Love Song [insane]
you will need to paste / write either " https://osu.ppy.sh/b/211776 " or just "211776".
The number after /b/ in link is beatmap ID. Don't mistake it with ID or link to mapset, which in this case is https://osu.ppy.sh/s/74617
Also, make sure that you enter correct ID. It happened to me few times that I entered ID of the wrong difficulty. In this case, you just need to enter it again, but this time a correct one^^.
Personally, I am addicted to this button. I don't know, if it's supposed to refresh only from time to time or just once upon visiting your profile, then the next refresh is after X time, but when I play something and I did good, then even if it's within top #1000 on map or top #100 in my scores, I want to see how it affects my profile quickly.
So, I refresh it few times and upon not seeing any change, I just add a play manually. Sometimes I do this quite many times a day
AFAIK it's a queue. So as soon as its turn comes in the list of requests, it updates.Scarlet Evans wrote:
I don't know, if it's supposed to refresh only from time to time or just once upon visiting your profile, then the next refresh is after X time,
Sometimes it just randomly updates old scores too...abraker wrote:
AFAIK it's a queue. So as soon as its turn comes in the list of requests, it updates.Scarlet Evans wrote:
I don't know, if it's supposed to refresh only from time to time or just once upon visiting your profile, then the next refresh is after X time,
How's that reading skill coming?
I wish I can say it's close to done or at least an estimation to when it might be. All I can say is what I am currently doing, and that is an algorithm for circle and slider overlap calculation.[Toy] wrote:
How's that reading skill coming?
Topic Starter
You should get more scoresGudafild wrote:
How does this work?
It's weighted mean, where the weights are:Gudafild wrote:
How does this work?
1,
0.95,
0.95^2,
0.95^3,
...
0.95^{N-1},
for N being number of your scores and 0.95^x is exponentiation.
Theoretically it works like this: all score values are sorted (descending from the highest one to the lowest one), then they are multiplied by their weights and divided by the sum of weights. We are assuming here that aside of your achieved scores, you also have infinitely many scores that are equal to 0.
In this case, sum of weights is 20, so we can simply say that N-th score is takes as: (value*0.95^{N-1})/20.
You sum up these for all your scores and you have your total skill (✿◠‿◠)
For a little insight about how the first scores impact the total value, check this, it can be useful:
p/5306937
Edit: In your case, you have just a few of the highest scores, which are not enough to overweight the rest. The first top six scores, even though they are much higher than the rest, have a total sum of weights ~26.5%, and give you a total of about ~185.42 Agility, so the total score depends mostly on the lower ones. We can say that not having enough of such high Agility scores drags you down a little.
If all your lower scores were higher, for example like this 601 one, your Agility would be much higher and equal to about 627.
It's such a nice idea. It's not that useful as you've meant to be but is fun and interesting! Nice!
This is really cool and convenient. I like the titles you can get according to your skills, its very creative. I've ended up playing certain maps and focusing on certain factors just so I can get the 'sniper' title lol.
Topic Starter
Update!
You can now see player titles on ranking pages
Added links to osu! profiles
Latest 50 scores you made are also tracked now
Added flags everywhere on ranking pages
Don't forget to refresh you browser cache to see changes
You can now see player titles on ranking pages
Added links to osu! profiles
Latest 50 scores you made are also tracked now
Added flags everywhere on ranking pages
Don't forget to refresh you browser cache to see changes
Found out about that just yesterday. Yup, fun stuff...unko wrote:
huh
Any plans to implement charts on how I improved or degraded over time?
https://google-developers.appspot.com/c ... /linechart
https://google-developers.appspot.com/c ... /linechart
what caused it to throw this one? i didn't see weird sliders like in the aspire mapabraker wrote:
Found out about that just yesterday. Yup, fun stuff...unko wrote:
huh
Topic Starter
Whom?blahpy wrote:
Are there any plans to remove banned players?
PM the list of users that are banned and I will remove them
Not sure. But sounds interestingSlowLogicBoy wrote:
Any plans to implement charts on how I improved or degraded over time?
https://google-developers.appspot.com/c ... /linechart
http://puu.sh/teM2w/b8188d2e63.png
nice system
this was a 5 miss and aspire was a 1 miss
why are these even in agility when they dont require aim at all
nice system
this was a 5 miss and aspire was a 1 miss
why are these even in agility when they dont require aim at all
Will keep in mind to post the verdict once I get to it.unko wrote:
what caused it to throw this one? i didn't see weird sliders like in the aspire map
Cool idea, Maybe you can add something like "Luck" category that would depend on the number of choke scores in the top plays? It would be funny XD
Will the newly implemented multiple score submissions (for each mod combination) now allow people to submit scores to osuskills with lesser mod combinations?
E.g. If I have a HDHR score, and I set a lesser score DT play on it, will this update allow osuskills to recognize it now?
E.g. If I have a HDHR score, and I set a lesser score DT play on it, will this update allow osuskills to recognize it now?
I recently changed my name a week ago and I try to search my name and it comes up with a Korean player that hasn't played in 3 years. When trying to search my previous name, it says there is no such player. A suggestion to fix this issue is that we'd able able to search for our profile using our profile link or a sign in factor.
when can I get my Dear You +FL pass added to memory
Have you tried manual score input?F1r3tar wrote:
when can I get my Dear You +FL pass added to memory
We have to manually update the player names due to how the system is setup. I'll tell kert to update it.[ Toy ] wrote:
I recently changed my name a week ago and I try to search my name and it comes up with a Korean player that hasn't played in 3 years. When trying to search my previous name, it says there is no such player. A suggestion to fix this issue is that we'd able able to search for our profile using our profile link or a sign in factor.
E.g. If I have a HDHR score, and I set a lesser score DT play on it, will this update allow osuskills to recognize it now?That's a good question. I have not used the osu!API multiple scores were implemented, so I am not sure. I am willing to guess no, but kert would give a more accurate answer..
I don't know, if it's fully supported yet, but I've just got some low combo with +DT,HR,FL on a map that I already have +HD,HR SS on and it automatically added the score. Hooray \o/abraker wrote:
E.g. If I have a HDHR score, and I set a lesser score DT play on it, will this update allow osuskills to recognize it now?That's a good question. I have not used the osu!API multiple scores were implemented, so I am not sure. I am willing to guess no, but kert would give a more accurate answer..
The questions that I think should be asked is: how exactly it works?
Much of automatically uploaded scores comes from Event Feed. Does event feed gives only top #1000 of best scores points-wise?
If yes, how many non-best points-wise scores from chosen mods we can get?
Do they also have some kind of event feed? Or it's like only top #100 of them that are accessible through the API?
In other words, is this like top #1000 in general + top #100 with chosen mods? Or this reaches further than that?
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Also, are multiple mods scores always reachable, if we try to input them manually?
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About the last one, I hope they are and think they should be. If they are not, I wonder what peppy thinks about adding such possibility or when he will be able to add this. It would be really great, if we could add all scores
Okay, looks like manual submission doesn't work...
I played the map again, almost doubling previous combo and decided to add it manually for more Memory points. This not only added me the old HD,HR score, but also deleted the +DT,HR,FL, which was added automatically.
It looks like osu!skills is adding some scores automatically and manual adding replaced them... I don't want to test it, but does it mean that there is only 1 skill "slot" for chosen map from player in osu!skills for now and getting some chokes with multiple-mods-combinations on maps will overwrite them?
If yes, I hope that you will support it soon ♥
EDIT (to avoid triple post xD):
Maybe some scaling of the graphs would be nice? If the players have too long skill bars, they "fuse". Trying to resize page doesn't effect it at all too.
http://osuskills.tk/user/Rafis/vs/Cookiezi
http://puu.sh/tpBIf/d879f4255f.png
http://puu.sh/tpCeC/191783c595.png
I played the map again, almost doubling previous combo and decided to add it manually for more Memory points. This not only added me the old HD,HR score, but also deleted the +DT,HR,FL, which was added automatically.
It looks like osu!skills is adding some scores automatically and manual adding replaced them... I don't want to test it, but does it mean that there is only 1 skill "slot" for chosen map from player in osu!skills for now and getting some chokes with multiple-mods-combinations on maps will overwrite them?
If yes, I hope that you will support it soon ♥
EDIT (to avoid triple post xD):
Maybe some scaling of the graphs would be nice? If the players have too long skill bars, they "fuse". Trying to resize page doesn't effect it at all too.
http://osuskills.tk/user/Rafis/vs/Cookiezi
http://puu.sh/tpBIf/d879f4255f.png
http://puu.sh/tpCeC/191783c595.png
I have a new suggestion, this time for the broken agility, and also for the precision. (this is gona be long, so I'll separate it with boxes)
Introduction
Ok, ok, I know, I understand talking bad stuff about other people's work isn't nice, but I've said many times I'm a fan of this work, and I wanna help with everything I can, ideas included.
Agility is... kinda broken, everyone knows that. The solution would be to fix it, or to remake it from scratch. I've been taking a look in precision, and it doesn't make much sense to get a skill about ability to hit small circles. I myself farmed a lot of precision points by just farming small circle maps, and one of my worst stats, if not the worst, is aim. So I thought about this, and said "why not turn agility into a speed measurement, and precision into aim measurement?" It's basically what my suggestion is, now the details will come on the boxes below:
Agility is... kinda broken, everyone knows that. The solution would be to fix it, or to remake it from scratch. I've been taking a look in precision, and it doesn't make much sense to get a skill about ability to hit small circles. I myself farmed a lot of precision points by just farming small circle maps, and one of my worst stats, if not the worst, is aim. So I thought about this, and said "why not turn agility into a speed measurement, and precision into aim measurement?" It's basically what my suggestion is, now the details will come on the boxes below:
Speed
Speed would take into account two important factors mainly, which are "distance to the next circle" and "time in which the next circle should be hit". The length of the map wouldn't affect the speed measurement, because the agility would measure the speed, and if the person can maintain the same speed for a long period of time, it's a matter of aim and/or stamina, not speed itself. (Long, fast, and straight or slightly curved sliders would award medium speed points. Long, fast and weird shaped sliders would award... a lot of speed points? Not sure). Misses would decrease speed points awarded normally, and sliderbreaks (or max combo on the map) would decrease speed points awarded slightly. I'm not sure if you would, and how you would deal with touchscreen maps (if there's anyone who use touch out there), and I wouldn't mind if square jumps were buffed and stars/triangles were nerfed, up to you to balance it the way you think it's best.
Aim
The aim would take 3 factors into account mainly, in this order: distance between circles > circle size > time between clicks. I understand it looks like the speed I mentioned above, but the key is the weightage of every factor, time between clicks would have a small weight, an example would be trying to FC a full screen jumps map with HTHR, instead of nomod, it's not much easier, the time between clicks would increase, but the circle size would decrease, it would require less speed, and more aim. The length of a map, or drain time, would also increase the aim points awarded, as it requires consistency to not break a combo. Long and weird shaped sliders would award aim points, specially if they're fast. Both misses and sliderbreaks (or max combo on the map) would heavily decrease the aim points awarded. Just like for speed, feel free to balance the square/triangle/star shaped jumps and/or touchscreen maps the way you think it's best.
Conclusion
I've been thinking about this for a very long time now, I was just afraid to put it here, I don't want you to stop working on the reading skill, finish that thing before doing anything else xD so... I really want this implemented, makes more sense somehow than "raw aim skill" and "small circle skill". The names of the skills can remain Agility and Precision though, no need to change them to speed and aim, it's just a name. I hope you like the idea.
Also my page is just broken lol
but would something like this count for precision despite me having an HDDT SS? Because if you can somehow integrate the multiple mod submissions to the website that would be fantastic.
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7090711
but would something like this count for precision despite me having an HDDT SS? Because if you can somehow integrate the multiple mod submissions to the website that would be fantastic.
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7090711
^ yup
Archangel-_old_1
I'm having the same issues as azurau and ReptilianD, and none of the profiles I've checked show anything other than "No scores in top 100!"
Also, will there be a HD reading skill added if there isn't one already, and will you be bringing out other mode skills?
Also, will there be a HD reading skill added if there isn't one already, and will you be bringing out other mode skills?
Topic Starter
Fixed
I should fix the graphs yes...
Also, snyviper, you basically described what the agility and precision are about.
The problem is the weightning of the factors you mentioned in both of them is too extreme.
I actually tried multiple tries to make them not that harsh, but with no success so far
Currently it just replaces with the play that has more scoreScarlet Evans wrote:
It looks like osu!skills is adding some scores automatically and manual adding replaced them... I don't want to test it, but does it mean that there is only 1 skill "slot" for chosen map from player in osu!skills for now and getting some chokes with multiple-mods-combinations on maps will overwrite them?
I should fix the graphs yes...
Also, snyviper, you basically described what the agility and precision are about.
The problem is the weightning of the factors you mentioned in both of them is too extreme.
I actually tried multiple tries to make them not that harsh, but with no success so far
Wow... so... I think It's gonna be hard to suggest changes without tests, but I would say.... I have no idea what should change on agility. But I would put less weigth for circle size, and a lot more weight for distance on precision, until it is something similar to distance>CS>time.Kert wrote:
Also, snyviper, you basically described what the agility and precision are about.
The problem is the weightning of the factors you mentioned in both of them is too extreme.
I actually tried multiple tries to make them not that harsh, but with no success so far
Thank you for noticing my post, focus on the reading skill though... I hope I can help you on agility/precision once reading is finished.
Do you maybe have in plans to make more that one play from single map available (one per a mod combination, to be exact), then chose the best one from them for every skill?Kert wrote:
Currently it just replaces with the play that has more scoreScarlet Evans wrote:
It looks like osu!skills is adding some scores automatically and manual adding replaced them... I don't want to test it, but does it mean that there is only 1 skill "slot" for chosen map from player in osu!skills for now and getting some chokes with multiple-mods-combinations on maps will overwrite them?
For example, we could have on the very same map NoMod SS for Accuracy, +HR FC for Precision, +EZ,DT score for Stamina and Tenacity, etc. Only one score from a map would be counted for chosen Skill, but for different Skills, the different mods combination score could count.
I believe that something like this would make many players really happy =)
I'm having issues where its still previewing the "skills" for the last person who had my name who hasnt played in 3 1/2 years.
My score hasn't been updating, since I've tried manually inputting some scores and my graph went up by a large amount of number. Could you check with this issue, please?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Topic Starter
fixedHawaii wrote:
Hawaii
Can you rephrase your sentence, please? I am not sure I understand youkai99 wrote:
My score hasn't been updating, since I've tried manually inputting some scores and my graph went up by a large amount of number. Could you check with this issue, please?
Thanks.
It shows you have two new scores added on January 21 and 30 on the page where the "graphs" are listed. Sometimes it can take up to half hour for new scores to be added (depending on how big the queue is)kai99 wrote:
My score hasn't been updating, since I've tried manually inputting some scores and my graph went up by a large amount of number. Could you check with this issue, please?
Thanks.
Can i have a flag change on osuskills? I recently changed flag from France to Portugal
http://i.imgur.com/WG7Xe8Q.png would DT not submit on osu!skills?
Topic Starter
290x :>Momiji wrote:
get it? because Kert has a 290 lol ecks dee xd lol
2Chemistry:
Only highest scored one is considered on osu!Skills
2Kon4m: Fixed your flag
ok so um cookiezi just got a 900 stamina score (a record i believe) from that 230bpm map i mentioned a few weeks ago
http://osuskills.tk/user/Cookiezi/skill/stamina
is this positively meant to happen
http://osuskills.tk/user/Cookiezi/skill/stamina
is this positively meant to happen
Topic Starter
Not really
