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good morning, anyone here want to discuss p o l i t i c s?
nah can we discuss how my fuckin light bill dropped like 150$
those damn summer rates jesus
those damn summer rates jesus
how did Trump got the most votes?
Meme magic of course.
I am pretty sure that memes had nothing to do with it. The internet is frequently overestimating its influence. I'm always amused when people say "don't mess with the internet!!!", as if the internet could have an actual impact on anything. One person IRL with proper skills and contacts can get things moving 10 times as fast, than a brigade of 10.000 shitposting degenerates. Numbers =/= power. Most of the memeing edgelords probably weren't even legal voting age, or didn't vote for trump, or were spread out over countries that aren't the US.
Hillary supporters thinking memes made Trump win
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Electoral CollegeRilene wrote:
how did Trump got the most votes?
Don't underestimate the power of meme magic.
just a bunch of people trying to feel important because they are subconsciously aware of the fact that they have absolutely no impact on anything major that happens in the world. Feels better to think of yourself as part of a movement that got things moving, such as "our memes did this!!", even though you actually didn't affect jack shit.B1rd wrote:
Don't underestimate the power of meme magic.
Don't underestimate the internet. Haha.
You obviously have zero grasp on the relevance internet has in our culture. This it isn't the early 2000s.
And saying that people saw Trump as a joke because of memes is ridiculous. The only people who think that were sjw who think pepe is a hate symbol of white supremacy.
And saying that people saw Trump as a joke because of memes is ridiculous. The only people who think that were sjw who think pepe is a hate symbol of white supremacy.
A younger person would ask, 'Why and how?' Someone older would simply reply, 'Well, people just straight up hate Hillary.'Rilene wrote:
how did Trump got the most votes?
That's the simplest answer. Americans have hated Hillary ever since the 90s when she debuted as the first lady, appearing as a sort of feminist and making a horrible attempt at politics. Ever since then, she's done nothing to boost her reputation and done the exact opposite. If anything, hating Hillary is a bigger meme than Trump is so no idea what kids are saying. So when someone a whole country hates suddenly becomes a prime elect, that's when you know shit sucks. Even among the people that voted for Hillary, a lot of them were reluctant to because she never really brought anything good to the table.
Reasons to vote for Hillary:
-I'm a liberal so I have to vote for my political party!
-To become first female president
-So Trump doesn't become president
Those reasons are trash.
Simply put, the hate Hillary has garnered for the past 20 years was greater than the hate Trump got the past 2 years and Hillary had a piss poor campaign.
Ok, at least that partially does matches with what my English teacher said.
And I do see that in Hillary Clinton's website months ago.
And I do see that in Hillary Clinton's website months ago.
What I'm saying is that the people who claim that trump won or that hillary lost because of memes, are ridiculous. Memes had nothing to do with it.B1rd wrote:
You obviously have zero grasp on the relevance internet has in our culture. This it isn't the early 2000s.
And saying that people saw Trump as a joke because of memes is ridiculous. The only people who think that were sjw who think pepe is a hate symbol of white supremacy.
Ted Cruz didn't lose because people started spamming that he is the zodiac Killer. Trump didn't win because people on 4chan were spamming "he's gonna build a wall and make mexico pay for it"-memes.
The largest part of the voting population doesn't even know what 4chan is, and yet they claim to be influential? The internet has relevance for a small part of the population, namely the people that spend more time online than they spend outside. For everyone else? They use the internet to communicate with their circle of friends and acquaintances of facebook, or use it to read newspages (which are mostly controlled by classical media companies). But opinions formed by reading newspages might as well be attributed to classical media, as "the internet" usually tries to separate itself from newspages or any form of modern/classical media as hard as it can. It's supposed to be decentralized after all.
Most of the people in legal voting age probably don't even know what pepe is, so how could someone possibly claim that anything spawned by 4chan has any semblance of importance in the real world? It doesn't. It's fucking irrelevant. And that's why I'm laughing at them, because they want to believe that they have impact soooo badly. Yes, most parts of the internet are irrelevant. Anonymous message boards where a bunch of degenerates circlejerk their meaningless opinions up are probably among the most irrelevant places online.
"Don't mess with the internet" is one of the most laughable catchphrases I've ever heard.
Well tbh, a lot of people hate on Hillary without any reason either, they just follow the crowd like the sheep they are. It goes both ways.Jellyblob56 wrote:
exactly. Liking Hillary was a joke because the only people who supported her are people who don't know anything. They usually have no clue on what Hillary's or Trump's policies are. Same with the idiots who voted for Bernie. They just heard Trump was bad on the news so they went with it.EneT wrote:
-I'm a liberal so I have to vote for my political party!
-To become first female president
-So Trump doesn't become president
Those reasons are trash.
Simply put, the hate Hillary has garnered for the past 20 years was greater than the hate Trump got the past 2 years and Hillary had a piss poor campaign.
But anyways, Hillary has established a nice and solid 20 years worth of hate towards her while Trump has only started turning heads towards him for 1/10 of the time. There's no escaping that, that woman will never become president unless a miracle comes along. It took a miracle for her to become a prime elect and that miracle was Trump. Praise him.
Trump is right on most of this lolMahogany wrote:
Trump isn't racisthah
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Donald Trump violated the civil rights act by refusing to rent homes to black people.
http://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/20 ... ald-trump/
http://new.www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/ ... 55553.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... lacks.html
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/ ... antic-city
Trump continued to refuse to rent homes to black people three years after Justice Department ruling on the matter sides against Trump.
http://www.nytimes.com/1978/03/07/archi ... -bias.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/10/16/reale ... wanted=all
Trump ordered blacks to leave casino floor whenever him or wife arrives on property.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/ ... antic-city
1991 book written by Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino President quotes Trump as saying:
“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day… . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.“
http://articles.philly.com/1991-05-10/n ... nald-trump
Trump built a casino in black majority city and breaks promise to mayor about hiring locals, refrains to hire the minorities and opting to staff the casino with almost exclusively all Caucasian employees.
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/mon ... e-1.726389
Trump discriminated against Native-Americans as well.
http://www.courant.com/business/dan-haa ... olumn.html
Trump refuses to condemn violence against muslims and African-Americans committed by his supporters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e ... SKCN0WM0RJ
http://www.japantoday.com/category/worl ... is-rallies
Trump falsely claims 4 out of 5 white people who were victims of homicide were murdered by blacks.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... e-victims/
Trump believes that Mexicans are rapists by default.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... and-crime/
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This isn't even a full list.
It's pretty clear trump is very racist
I wouldn't say voting for the Democrat president to ensure 1-3 liberal Supreme Court justices (who serve for life for whatever reason) isn't a "trash" reason. Otherwise, this hits the nail on the head.EneT wrote:
A younger person would ask, 'Why and how?' Someone older would simply reply, 'Well, people just straight up hate Hillary.'Rilene wrote:
how did Trump got the most votes?
That's the simplest answer. Americans have hated Hillary ever since the 90s when she debuted as the first lady, appearing as a sort of feminist and making a horrible attempt at politics. Ever since then, she's done nothing to boost her reputation and done the exact opposite. If anything, hating Hillary is a bigger meme than Trump is so no idea what kids are saying. So when someone a whole country hates suddenly becomes a prime elect, that's when you know shit sucks. Even among the people that voted for Hillary, a lot of them were reluctant to because she never really brought anything good to the table.
Reasons to vote for Hillary:
-I'm a liberal so I have to vote for my political party!
-To become first female president
-So Trump doesn't become president
Those reasons are trash.
Simply put, the hate Hillary has garnered for the past 20 years was greater than the hate Trump got the past 2 years and Hillary had a piss poor campaign.
What I find unfortunate about this entire thing (and what y'all may find funny) is that all the journalists who are pro-Hillary can't engage in a little introspection about the HRC campaign and blame literally everyone else: third-party voters, Bernie supporters, literally all of "white America," etc. Maybe if the campaign focused less on what a random collection of Hollywood celebrities have to say and more on actually reaching out to every demographic (Bernie winning Wisconsin and Michigan should've raised some red flags WAY before the presidential phase!) they would've had a fighting chance.
(also Hillary's millennial outreach is hilariously bad)
She reached out to millennials because out of everyone within voting age, they were the most likely to have little knowledge over the hate that's plagued her all these years. It shows on the internet considering people are more distracted by the Trump memes rather than Hillary.
Congratulations, you're also racistJordan wrote:
Trump is right on most of this lol
Your the one who seems pathetic with your condescending ranting about people on 4chan. I thought you didn't insult people because of simple differences in opinion? Seems you have some issues.Railey2 wrote:
What I'm saying is that the people who claim that trump won or that hillary lost because of memes, are ridiculous. Memes had nothing to do with it.
Ted Cruz didn't lose because people started spamming that he is the zodiac Killer. Trump didn't win because people on 4chan were spamming "he's gonna build a wall and make mexico pay for it"-memes.
The largest part of the voting population doesn't even know what 4chan is, and yet they claim to be influential? The internet has relevance for a small part of the population, namely the people that spend more time online than they spend outside. For everyone else? They use the internet to communicate with their circle of friends and acquaintances of facebook, or use it to read newspages (which are mostly controlled by classical media companies). But opinions formed by reading newspages might as well be attributed to classical media, as "the internet" usually tries to separate itself from newspages or any form of modern/classical media as hard as it can. It's supposed to be decentralized after all.
Most of the people in legal voting age probably don't even know what pepe is, so how could someone possibly claim that anything spawned by 4chan has any semblance of importance in the real world? It doesn't. It's fucking irrelevant. And that's why I'm laughing at them, because they want to believe that they have impact soooo badly. Yes, most parts of the internet are irrelevant. Anonymous message boards where a bunch of degenerates circlejerk their meaningless opinions up are probably among the most irrelevant places online.
"Don't mess with the internet" is one of the most laughable catchphrases I've ever heard.
Image boards affect a relatively small amount of the population but their effect on influencing people should not be underestimated. There are other facets of the internet like Reddit that are normie friendly and likely influenced a lot more people. /r/the_donald is very popular and frequently reaches the front page. It's unlikely that memes alone are responsible for Trumps win but who can say, it's hard to quantify such things. Maybe it tipped the balance just enough in a few swing states.
Eh, I'm pretty sure most Internet people are aware of that. But yeah, I'm pretty sure "How does your student debt feel, tell us in 3 emojis or less" or "Pokémon Go to the polls" or "things Hillary has in common with your abuela" didn't help. People can see right through the obvious levels of pandering.EneT wrote:
She reached out to millennials because out of everyone within voting age, they were the most likely to have little knowledge over the hate that's plagued her all these years. It shows on the internet considering people are more distracted by the Trump memes rather than Hillary.
Supporting Trump does not make you racist nor xenophobic. If you know at least a bit about his political campaign, you could see his appeal towards working-class American people. It'd be nice if people could just sit down and have a chat and discuss with the opposition rather than call them out for being "racist", "xenophobic", or a "white supremacist" when it's common sense that plenty of those who voted him wanted change and are sick of the "establishment" candidate. What can you say about the blacks or the latinos who voted for Trump?
This is the REALEST rant I've ever seen concerning the election and these are my EXACT THOUGHTS on how shit this election has been and how Donald Trump won. This election has served as a lesson for the left, and they better learn from it. Please watch it, it'll be a wake up call, especially for those leftists that blame everyone but themselves.
P.S. - I do not support Trump, but I understand why his supporters would. I just want people to stop spewing hypocritical shit and learn to listen to other people's opinions and have at least a meaningful political discourse. Heck, why would I even show support for someone who's barely qualified to be a president? But hey, that doesn't mean they shouldn't give him a chance. Let's see how the cards play.
This is the REALEST rant I've ever seen concerning the election and these are my EXACT THOUGHTS on how shit this election has been and how Donald Trump won. This election has served as a lesson for the left, and they better learn from it. Please watch it, it'll be a wake up call, especially for those leftists that blame everyone but themselves.
P.S. - I do not support Trump, but I understand why his supporters would. I just want people to stop spewing hypocritical shit and learn to listen to other people's opinions and have at least a meaningful political discourse. Heck, why would I even show support for someone who's barely qualified to be a president? But hey, that doesn't mean they shouldn't give him a chance. Let's see how the cards play.
Hey that's the exact same reason why I am politically right wing in the first place. I'm all for equality and all that but I absolutely hate people acting like little bitches. If people nowadays weren't in such a state in which they overreact over every single thing, I'd be way more sympathetic towards the left.
Someone tell me Mahogany is actually being ironic, please.
I sincerely apologize that you disagree with meFaust wrote:
Someone tell me Mahogany is actually being ironic, please.
Congratulations you are retarded. It is a fact that if you take blacks as a whole they are lazy people, and it is also a fact (this one is backed up by statistics) that they commit a maaaaaaaaaaaassive portion of violent crime in America even taking into account they make up 13% of the US population.Mahogany wrote:
Congratulations, you're also racistJordan wrote:
Trump is right on most of this lol
Has it never occured to you anything relating to the black crime rate might have something to do with, oh, I don't know, their economic and educational situations?Jordan wrote:
Congratulations you are retarded. It is a fact that if you take blacks as a whole they are lazy people, and it is also a fact (this one is backed up by statistics) that they commit a maaaaaaaaaaaassive portion of violent crime in America even taking into account they make up 13% of the US population.
Have you not considered that the proper solution to the crime problem is to invest towards education, instead of promoting a racist agenda?
Assuming someone will commit more crimes purely due to their skin color is seriously fucking retarded, but I can't say I wouldn't expect that attitude.
Any argument with Jordan or Mahogany involved is an argument you don't want to be in. Time to enjoy the art show folks.
No to both. Everywhere in the world a high black population equals a high crime rate. Their educational situation is ALREADY put at unfair advantage (see affirmative action in the US) yet the gap remains large. Even the children of wealthy african american families (>$200,000 annual income) barely score higher in the SAT (i think it is 3 points lol) than the children of the poorest white families (<$10,000 annual income).Mahogany wrote:
Has it never occured to you anything relating to the black crime rate might have something to do with, oh, I don't know, their economic and educational situations?Jordan wrote:
Congratulations you are retarded. It is a fact that if you take blacks as a whole they are lazy people, and it is also a fact (this one is backed up by statistics) that they commit a maaaaaaaaaaaassive portion of violent crime in America even taking into account they make up 13% of the US population.
Have you not considered that the proper solution to the crime problem is to invest towards education, instead of promoting a racist agenda?
Assuming someone will commit more crimes purely due to their skin color is seriously fucking retarded, but I can't say I wouldn't expect that attitude.
Also what the fuck is the racist agenda you're talking about.
>assuming someone will commit more crimes purely due to their skin color
That argument is stupid, as the phenotypic difference between races is not only skin deep.
Seems it's a very big coincidence that every black country is poor and destitute, and blacks are poor in every country they are in. It's a fact that race is not just skin deep, races have different physiology, skeletal structures, brain sizes, et cetera. That would explain behavioral differences.
It's also been proven that blacks do poorer in academics and IQ tests in all socio-economic levels.
The answer in not 'mo money for dem programs' which is the leftist and progressive agenda, this is just throwing money away and it's a reason why you have so many blacks in America dependent on welfare. Throw all the money away that you want but you will never achieve equality of outcome.
It's also been proven that blacks do poorer in academics and IQ tests in all socio-economic levels.
The answer in not 'mo money for dem programs' which is the leftist and progressive agenda, this is just throwing money away and it's a reason why you have so many blacks in America dependent on welfare. Throw all the money away that you want but you will never achieve equality of outcome.
most of the people that are on r/the_donald would have voted trump anyway. The number of people that were swayed by this echochamber of opinions is neglectable, making it's relevance neglectable as well.B1rd wrote:
Image boards affect a relatively small amount of the population but their effect on influencing people should not be underestimated. There are other facets of the internet like Reddit that are normie friendly and likely influenced a lot more people. /r/the_donald is very popular and frequently reaches the front page. It's unlikely that memes alone are responsible for Trumps win but who can say, it's hard to quantify such things. Maybe it tipped the balance just enough in a few swing states.
As I said, people that think they have an impact with spamming bullshit on reddit are just on a sad, imaginary power-trip. The entirety of 4chan is forgettable, r/the_donald is also forgettable, and so are most parts of the internet.
I refuse to believe that any of these boards had an impact that was visible after rounding.
I can assure you that the overwhelming majority of trump voters never heard of /r/the_donald, and even if they did, it wouldn't have changed their opinion. You're overestimating the importance of boards like reddit, because it happens to be the world you live in. But it's not the world of the majority of americans. And if there is one thing that reddit is incredibly bad at, then it is changing people's opinions to tip any sort of scale.
People voted trump because hillary represents "the system", and they were fed up with being looked down upon. Voting Trump is a fuck you to the system.
What makes people change their mind is being laughed at my liberal media 24/7. That's what won trump the election.
I agree with the last part but your entire post before that is just opinion and conjecture.
/r/the_donald is a hugbox, but it's pretty obvious that a board supporting one candidate would be. It's better than the rest of reddit, like /r/politics, /r/australia that don't have a stated political alignment yet are left wing hugboxes.
/r/the_donald is a hugbox, but it's pretty obvious that a board supporting one candidate would be. It's better than the rest of reddit, like /r/politics, /r/australia that don't have a stated political alignment yet are left wing hugboxes.