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Jordan
New Talon is pure shit
Aurani
Thing with Talon was always that he had a cancerous laning phase. You always wanted to roam with him and avoid staying in your own lane if you weren't up against some bronzie, as was the deal with Kat. The rework didn't do anything to help him survive the laning phase past the mini heal you get, which won't do shit against meta champs. He is still reliant on roaming as much as possible, instead of them aiding his laning phase.

What's worse is that they ruined Kat's already awful as fuck laning phase. You would think that she's shit at contesting last-hits, but now she can't even farm under her bloody tower, as the old W allowed her to do it, but now it's there no more.

Overall, this rework has been lackluster to say the least, apart from the LB rework - where I don't agree with most people saying she's now shit. She's pretty damn alright, but her core gameplay is different now and people need to stop whining about it.
I'm not even gonna mention the jg plants. The fruit one is a nice touch, but the other two are unneeded gimmicks.
Jordan
Thing is they nerfed every single aspect of Talon's kit and gameplay in exchange of having him be able to hop over some fucking walls. With a 2min cooldown for each. He feels so awful to play I have no words. His laning phase is 10 times shittier than it already was due to him having only 2 spells in lane and the ms nerf. You can no longer blink to dodge spells, and fuck yeah you get 20hp back by last hitting a minion with your q... and lose 150 from the mage with half a brain who will harass you when you do so. Don't even get me started on his Rake and Shadow Assault... Hitting the 2nd part of your rake is damn near impossible and now you cant even control the blades closing on his ult anymore, always ignoring the fact that if those blades were made of paper they'd give a better visual impression of the damage they actually do...

And let's not talk about teamfights. You just have no fucking way or chance to kill any squishy that has someone peeling for him unless you're massively and i say massively ahead. And even then, you will at best kill 1 person in a teamfight and then die because you have no escapes. Oh and you can no longer splitpush because your Q now doesnt proc on towers. Jesus fucking christ...
Hika
uh oh, talon's q doesn't work on towers anymore
kms

RIP TALON I played him religiously S3
Neku Okazaki
Aurani
You reminded me of something.... now that I have a skin for Mao, I own at least one skin on every champion.... apart from Aatrox. No one plays Aatrox anyways.
Neku Okazaki
Cloudchaser
I want my Normal Draft back ;_; fuck LAS
Zain Sugieres
"We want to remove the ability to oneshot people from Rengar" - Riot Games 2016 LUL
Aurani
As far as I've understood, they wanted to extend the time it took to assassinate people and make it so they know step-by-step how they got killed, instead of just being deleted in the split of a second. They did achieve that with LB and Kat, but I don't think Talon/Rengo changed at all. I don't think Rengar can ever be balanced, so it'd be great if they just deleted him outright. :^)
Cloudchaser
Assasins are assasing, they kill because that's their job. At least now they need to effort to get kills and not just appear and BOOM
Hika
kat still deletes people what.
Rurree
Rengar gives me cancer even if he helped me get to Master last season lol
Cloudchaser

Hika wrote:

kat still deletes people what.
It was worse imo lol
Zain Sugieres
If you want to balance Rengar, you have 2 choices:
Make him a bruiser which will make everyone angry
Nerf his scalings down to shit and make everyone angry
Aurani

Hika wrote:

kat still deletes people what.
I tested her the day she came out and if we assume you're trying to kill a full hp champion, relatively squishy, 1v1 in the laning phase past 6, it'll take you a lot more to do the same job as the old Kat.

Yeah, Kat is still relatively the same in teamfights as far as her job of "wait for the cc to be gone and then go in" goes (and is probably even better because of all the Es that she can get off), but the regular fights in the lane/ganks should and indeed do offer people more time to see how exactly she got to assassinate them, which is exactly what Riot stated their goal was.
AutoMedic

Zain Sugieres wrote:

Make him a bruiser which will make everyone angry
this is actually a pretty bad design choice, considering rengar is promoted as a hunter, not a fighter

Zain Sugieres wrote:

Nerf his scalings down to shit and make everyone angry
so you want her to be the next less reliable irelia (i have to admit that she is a pretty strong pick this year)

assassin's are supposed to be the guys/gals that take down the important targets, and should be a situational/niche pick. they should have little to no aoe cc as well as good scaling. they should also be squishy and be SUPER vurnerable to bruisers/aoe damage dealers
EneT
I haven't played this game in 1 or 2 months and frankly just cba because of rank decay. I still can't understand Riot's decisions over the years to constantly choose changing/fucking up their most well made assassin, Ahri, over changing the most annoying ones such as lb and Rengar up until now.
Aurani
The thing that confused me the most about Riot is what certain teams in their company are doing during the work hours. The fact that it takes 9 fucking months to rework a champion is proof enough that something has to be wrong over there. A company so huge should have more than enough resources to allocate into something as important as making a core part of the game viable again, yet here we see just how detached they are from this world.

I mean it took them 6 fucking years to bring back a special festive map. You can't tell me that it was more profitable to leave the rift as it is than draw more players in by spicing it up a bit for the new and old players alike.
For some reason I have a feeling they're putting as little effort as possible up until the game hits a critical point where they have to intervene just so they could pull out as much money as possible. Situations like these can't make sense otherwise.
Adorn
Riot never fails to confuse me.
Hika
idk I would work for Riot for shit. Hi Rez too. Some Hi-Rez recruiter was really trying hard to give me an internship there and I'm pretty sure my work is worth so much more elsewhere

why would I try to work at Riot when they have no idea what the fuck a balance is
Izzywing
Ended the season plat 4, went 9-1 in flex placements and start plat 1. The message is like "you'll be placed lower than you were last season !!"

EDIT - played vs BillyBoss (lol) and BunnyFuFu. Flex matchmaking is pretty great.

FWIW I managed to win vs Bunny lol - http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends. ... b=overview (he's the thresh)
Aurani
Flex is fucking broken for some reason. Playing vs Challenger players at Plat level is fun. =D
BrokenArrow
hah fun fact I ended this season with exactly 50% winrate, 110 wins 110 losses
Got placed into Silver 5 after some rather unfortunate placement games against mostly high plat/diamond players with bronzes on my team, but it's fine
EneT
What kind of matchmaking was that?!
Hika

EneT wrote:

What kind of matchmaking was that?!
better fix it before people's mmr die
Adorn

gotta love my boyfriend's awesome way of surprises
(also that's the c-word. lool)
BrokenArrow
okay after the ranked hotfix today my rank got readjusted from Silver 5 to Silver 3, so that's pretty nice considering most people went the other way
Zain Sugieres
SILVER 3 LUL
Hika
BA, that wasn't even anything you better report them and make you challenger wtf
Rurree
How do I use Talon's E efficiently
Hika
you can't cause Riot eats ass
why tf they remove the silence like two seasons ago?
Aurani
Fucking shit no, I wanted to start at B5 to see just how bad people down there are. Now even if I lose all 10 games I won't be placed below high silver. Fuck this.
Hika
aurani pls
BrokenArrow
I've never been in bronze and I can't and don't even want to try to understand how in the love of god someone could be stuck in there..
Aurani
That's exactly why I wanted to see it with my own eyes. I got a friend who I pushed into playing ranked and he's genuinely terrible at the game, who lost all 10 out of 10 of his games (don't even ask how) and got placed in Silver 2. So apart from inting (which I was sorta planning on doing to lose those games) I have no idea how people can actually push their acc so low...
Jordan
>got a 14 day ban 2 days after the day limit for which you wouldnt receive rewards anymore

WAKE ME UP
Rurree
time to throw i guess
Hika
I somehow redownloaded league wish me luck smh
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