Worminators wrote:

Now, see this map qualified https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1083470
If it gets ranked, there's no reason for The Empress to not get ranked

Weber wrote:

"total remap"

finna bust a nut

Ascendance wrote:

Worminators wrote:

Now, see this map qualified https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1083470
If it gets ranked, there's no reason for The Empress to not get ranked

Mapping is on a case-by-case basis. You should never compare maps or use them as reasoning as to why something should be ranked. Gl here!

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Difficulty wasnt really ever an issue, if anything I kept getting told to buff parts so thats where we stand now. It was mostly my choices in mapping bloodthirsty that caused issues which Ive fixed now.

fastmarkus wrote:

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Difficulty wasnt really ever an issue, if anything I kept getting told to buff parts so thats where we stand now. It was mostly my choices in mapping bloodthirsty that caused issues which Ive fixed now.

Hello! As you can see, I'm not a mapper nor in a good position to be here posting but I am. I've got only a single question:

The 00:15:700 ~~ scream feels less emphasized, even though it's heavier than the previous one, even considering the drums on both parts. Although you were focusing on the instruments, don't you think/feel it needs buffing, since it reminds me of the scream on the first kiai 01:25:600 ~~, and that one feels like you mapped it heavier?

Thanks and sorry if I'm being annoying!

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Different sections at different speeds, no need to be the same.

quaternary wrote:

Hi! I hope you can rank this soon, it's a really nice map.

Some thoughts on it: (disclaimer, I'm not a mapper or modder, and definitely can't stream 270bpm)

07:03:458 (1) - This stream is fukin sexy lol, I really like these symmetrical streams.

03:47:013 (1,2,1) - At first I was really confused by these patterns, but then I realized you probably meant to use 1/2 sliders instead of 1/4?

Right now the brass section/trumpet thing/whatever plays on the yellow 1, the green 1 and the green 5, and I don't see what the yellow 2 goes to at all. - It was originally 1/2 sliders but a few people including BN's didnt like that and If you check cryptics mod he suggested I go with this.

04:13:680 (1,2,3) - I feel like these sorts of patterns work better with more than 1.00 distance spacing. The wide distance spacing on the purple 1,2,3,4 pattern builds up momentum, and then the big jump towards the pink 1 builds it even more, but then the pink 2 is really close and you lose all of that mometum. It's almost like an antijump? - Yeah the movement of snapping back makes up for the smaller distance.

04:48:347 (1,2,3,4) - This is a really big jump to spring on the player, especially when the objects immediately afterwards are much slower compared to this (and I don't think it reflects the intensity of the music very well) - Fair enough, scaled down a bit, I still want it to be pretty big to give a bit of a punch here.

04:51:347 (4,1) - Probably shouldn't be an antijump. - They all play fine, I can do them myself and Ive never seen testplayers complain about it. You tend to not notice the smaller distance while snapping back at this sort of speed.

05:16:791 (5) - Maybe it's just my personal settings, but the clap on this slider sticks out compared to the other ones? Idk why - Gave it a check and it looks fine.

06:10:569 (3,4) - I don't like how the jump between 3-4 is way slower than the jumps between 1-2 and 2-3. - Gave it a bit more spacing.

06:13:236 (1) - This looks a bit better if you poke it down a couple pixels?

07:07:902 (1,2,3,4) - I don't really like the way some of these point left and some point right

07:29:680 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is almost symmetrical around the Y axis, and it would totally look kickass if it was symmetrical right? - I kinda like how it isnt honestly.

Some lopsided patterns / things-that-might-look-better-if-they-were-perfect-circles:
06:55:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8)

06:06:680 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3)

07:02:680 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5)

07:21:513 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Save for the second one they are all perfect circles, it just looks off because of transitions in and out. And the second one is noticeable and symmetrical anyways so it doesnt matter. I made them all with slider converts so I can vouch for them being perfect circles.

And that's all of the problems I really have with the map, and I mean, a lot of them are just small problems I hope you can rank it soon, good luck

Worminators wrote:

okay have my small mod

00:22:064 (1,2,3,4) - Would follow the song better if it was 1/4 sliders imo - Disagree.
00:24:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - You could have used a higher spacing for theses notes, for more emphasis. - No need since its 1/6th in a 1/4 section. Its consistent with the rest of the long streams as well.
00:28:342 - There's a note here that hasn't been mapped - Intentional, I let all the BN's who bubbled this to begin with know about that and they all agree with leaving it out. You cant notice it at full speed while playing either.
00:29:064 (11) - Flow would be better if (11) was at the (6) place imo - Yeah it does.
00:33:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I don't like how this part is different from 00:44:064 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - and 01:40:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - - Explained this a few times way back in the thread. The first and third are the exact same, the second one is different because its in a different section thats more intense and the drums are a lot different than in the first and third instances.
02:49:613 (1,2,3,4,1) - This pattern seems too much spaced for the intensity of this part of the song. Fair enough, scaled it down a bit.
05:23:014 (1) - This stream is already hard enough, can't you move this note a bit down so it follows the curve better? - Gotta have that click for the finish.

mithew wrote:

idunno if you'd take this suggestion but i feel like it fits the guitar a lot better with this rhythm (also not sure if you've changed this already)

01:36:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these two patterns currently don't represent the guitar well , which is the most noticeable and strongest part of the song



i've used this rhythm pattern on similar sections with that guitar riff being most dominate, and it just fits so much better using that rhythm, especially when (1) is stacked on the (2) sliderhead

the reason it fits so much better is because the first 3 notes are all open notes on the guitar, which is really simple to play (literally just strumming three times without your finger touching the frets). it sounds extremely simple too, so no movement in the cursor with the (1) stacked on the slider head of (2) is honestly the best way to represent a simple guitar pattern like that. simple and easy to play without any unnecessary movements. making the next 3 notes jumps fits with the change in guitar too so thats what i'd do for the next 3 notes.

something like this is what i've come up with, and i'm not really a mapper so that pattern probably sucks but i've tried using other rhythms and none of them really get the job done compared to this one. i really think this objectively fits the riff the best and i hope you can find a way to use it well...

GhostZ wrote:

Where are the mods FeelsBadMan

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Dream is over boys.

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Dream is over boys.

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Dream is over boys.

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Dream is over boys.

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Dream is over boys.

Idealism wrote:

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Dream is over boys.

gayzmcgee for bn?

F1r3tar wrote:

I guess that means you can go for loved.

EphemeralFetish wrote:

F1r3tar wrote:

I guess that means you can go for loved.

Id rather not share a spot next to some of the trash that ends up in there.

AyanokoRin wrote:

You don't really need to be val0108 to guess that some of the stuff in loved has horrible quality.

Frc wrote:

AyanokoRin wrote:

You don't really need to be val0108 to guess that some of the stuff in loved has horrible quality.

Who is he to say that? Isn't the mappers chant to say everytime bad quality is pointed out on their maps that "quality is subjective"? Or that only is used when convenient?

And talking about the "trash" you pretty much mean arles maps or everything that has jumps is trash for you? Now this guy thinks he is the hot shit because he maps streams when other map jumps.

Most of this mappers (BD, rustbell, caren_sk, Mazzerin) are way more reputated mappers than this EphemeralFetish guy whose map is receiving SO MUCH attention just because of it's Star Rating. Still he feels entitled to call the other's work "trash"

Dawnsday wrote:

Fetish has a point. He wanted this ranked; not loved

If his reason not wanting loved is because he then becomes associated with trash then so what? Let's hope a qualified BN picks up this set.

Dawnsday wrote:

That's the thing HE THINKS IT'S TRASH (As do I but that's beside the point.) It's his opinion and the opinion of others; not objective. Stop treating it as such.

Write wrote:

Too bad all the Bn's are all fucking scrubs

Bonsai wrote:

Write wrote:

Too bad all the Bn's are all fucking scrubs

be the change you want to see in the world
if more top-players cared enough to get involved in mapping/modding, there'd be more and better hard maps, it's as simple as that

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Dream is over boys.

EphemeralFetish wrote:

New rules have actually motivated me to maybe try for BN again. So yeah you speak some truth fam.

Bonsai wrote:

Write wrote:

Too bad all the Bn's are all fucking scrubs

be the change you want to see in the world
if more top-players cared enough to get involved in mapping/modding, there'd be more and better hard maps, it's as simple as that

1. 00:18:564 (6) - NC to signify spacing change.
2. A lot of my points in Bloodthirsty haven't been applied, definitely look over them again. (Like 00:25:730 (1) - there, 00:26:286 (2) - there, and then a lot of other places.)

Cryptic wrote:

1. 00:18:564 (6) - NC to signify spacing change.
2. A lot of my points in Bloodthirsty haven't been applied, definitely look over them again. (Like 00:25:730 (1) - there, 00:26:286 (2) - there, and then a lot of other places.)

Not going to nominate or anything, just doing a super light recheck until I realized a lot of what I brought up is still there...

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Fixed NC, changed something else suggested by another BN.

EphemeralFetish wrote:

Dream is over boys.

nextplay wrote:

Loved when?

Smolboi wrote:

nextplay wrote:

Loved when?

Only the original creator of the map can submit it for loved, which cant happen because the original creator was banned

fieryrage wrote:

9.26 lol i actually hope you're not serious about that

ignorance wrote:

Should be loved not ranked

Vacuous wrote:

05:25:515 (2) - unsnapped
05:25:626 (4) - unsnapped
don't bother with kudosu lol

Weber wrote:

hurry up