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EphemeralFetish
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 16 July 2020 at 04:39:05

Artist: UNDEAD CORPORATION
Title: Bloodthirsty Nightmare Lullaby / The Empress
Source: 東方紅魔郷 ~ the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil.
Tags: Tyrant 暴君 Boukun パインツリー Rib:y(uhki) さわけん さわけん&Admiral Wisteria Promontory 亡き王女の為のセプテット U.N.オーエンは彼女なのか? 東方紅魔郷 pinetree Naki Oujo no Tame no Seputetto Septette for a Dead Princess U.N. Owen wa kanojo na no ka? was her? ~ the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil The Violation Fleshgod Apocalypse c84 comiket 84 flandre remilia scarlet touhou metal deathmetal marathon Featured Artist Japanese metal video game
BPM: 180
Filesize: 15148kb
Play Time: 07:35
Difficulties Available:
  1. Starbow Break Old Ver. V1 (9.66 stars, 4308 notes)
  2. Starbow Break Old Ver. V2 (9.79 stars, 4341 notes)
  3. Starbow Break (10.17 stars, 4704 notes)
Download: UNDEAD CORPORATION - Bloodthirsty Nightmare Lullaby / The Empress
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Empress II When. Please Undead Corporation.

Other Undead Corp stuff I've done below

Slash Your Mind

Malicious Maggots

Everything Will Freeze (Vocal Version)

Flowering Night Fever (Vocal Version)
bananannian
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MikasaSerket
slide to the left
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take it back yall now
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one hop this time
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cha cha real smooth
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slide to the left
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take it back yall now
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Bara-
Some of those Lenny-faces are messed up. How can characters even be out of the thread's borders O.o
Cheesecake
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LigerZero
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Rapthorn
Please consider adding "no tits" to tags, thanks.
Cheesecake
absolute bonkers lad
Yuzeyun

MikasaSerket wrote:

slide to the left
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
slide to the right
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
take it back yall now
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
one hop this time
͡° ͜ʖ ͡°
( )
one hop this time
͡° ͜ʖ ͡°
( )
cha cha real smooth
( ( ͜ʖ ͡° ͡°
slide to the left
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
slide to the right
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
take it back yall now
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
FREEZE
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Topic Starter
EphemeralFetish
Vintage memes boys.
Cheesecake
everybody clap your hands

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Weber
this map is fucking mental

04:14:124 (1,2,3) - I think these should flipped horizontally to parallel the 3 notes before it, much like this right afterwards 04:15:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
04:42:569 (1,2,3) - Rotate 90 degrees to make more similar to ^, also giving the pattern a diagonal cross-screen jump, like so: http://puu.sh/qjN4w/42c9cae97c.jpg
05:10:791 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm only hearing 3 or 4 notes in the song here, not 5.
07:35:458 (5) - Personally, I think that a slow section here once the drums stop would be a better way to end the song rather than just cutting off once the drums stop

pls rank
Topic Starter
EphemeralFetish

Tatsuyu wrote:

this map is fucking mental

04:14:124 (1,2,3) - I think these should flipped horizontally to parallel the 3 notes before it, much like this right afterwards 04:15:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - - Aight tried something.
04:42:569 (1,2,3) - Rotate 90 degrees to make more similar to ^, also giving the pattern a diagonal cross-screen jump, like so: http://puu.sh/qjN4w/42c9cae97c.jpg - I was gonna do that initially but thought it might flow like shit, but its actually fine so applied.
05:10:791 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm only hearing 3 or 4 notes in the song here, not 5. - I can assure you, it is 5
07:35:458 (5) - Personally, I think that a slow section here once the drums stop would be a better way to end the song rather than just cutting off once the drums stop - I thought it would be kinda cool to have the song playing there while on the rank screen. I can always go back and map it if more people tell me to.

pls rank - Ill try. Sick of all these shitty overmapped 8* maps getting popular. Need to show them an accurate one :^)

Cheers for the random mod fam.

EDIT: Holy shit you absolute madman cheers for the 11SP
Asonate
we talked about bloodthirsty nightmare mostly and did some minor optimizations for empress

log
2016-07-31 00:22 Asonate: want to make this a quick'n'easy irc?
2016-07-31 00:23 EphemeralFetish: Damn
2016-07-31 00:23 EphemeralFetish: Didnt think you'd actually mod it
2016-07-31 00:23 EphemeralFetish: But sure
2016-07-31 00:23 Asonate: im desperate
2016-07-31 00:23 Asonate: and want good maps so its fun for me too
2016-07-31 00:24 EphemeralFetish: "Good" might be pushing it with an 8*
2016-07-31 00:24 Asonate: lets go with quality
2016-07-31 00:24 Asonate: also mappers i know lay down good fundamentals
2016-07-31 00:25 EphemeralFetish: Well I think this is pretty rankable
2016-07-31 00:25 EphemeralFetish: The odds of it happening are slim though
2016-07-31 00:25 EphemeralFetish: Bloodthirsty has good flow and structure
2016-07-31 00:25 EphemeralFetish: And empress is pretty clean
2016-07-31 00:26 EphemeralFetish: Just that its 8.4 so who the fuck would bubble it
2016-07-31 00:26 Asonate: i would
2016-07-31 00:26 Asonate: after a 4 hour irc lol
2016-07-31 00:26 EphemeralFetish: Madman
2016-07-31 00:26 Asonate: wouldnt
2016-07-31 00:26 Asonate: the first be actual 360?
2016-07-31 00:26 Asonate: just from the sound haha
2016-07-31 00:27 Asonate: 00:15:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ogod
2016-07-31 00:27 Asonate: nice m8
2016-07-31 00:27 Asonate: 00:18:397 (5) - something id suggest with this
2016-07-31 00:28 Asonate: either make the turn on 5, not 4
2016-07-31 00:28 Asonate: as 5 is the intense downbeat
2016-07-31 00:28 EphemeralFetish: Ohh yeah Im not happy with those
2016-07-31 00:28 EphemeralFetish: Yeah I know about doing that
2016-07-31 00:28 Asonate: or make 3,4,5 a triangle (perfectshaped)
2016-07-31 00:28 EphemeralFetish: Ima just do them like I did later
2016-07-31 00:28 Asonate: and place 6 on 3
2016-07-31 00:29 Asonate: 00:20:953 (1,2,3,4) - no idea why
2016-07-31 00:29 Asonate: but this is awesome
2016-07-31 00:30 EphemeralFetish: That used to be horizontal but it made the SR go up to 8.45 or some shit
2016-07-31 00:30 Asonate: lol
2016-07-31 00:30 Asonate: 01:01:175 (2) - consider putting that thing in the middle of the triangle
2016-07-31 00:30 Asonate: mostly because a straight line is gonna fuck people up
2016-07-31 00:30 Asonate: since you pretty much half aiming speed here
2016-07-31 00:30 Asonate: from before
2016-07-31 00:30 EphemeralFetish: Hmm
2016-07-31 00:31 EphemeralFetish: Maybe
2016-07-31 00:31 EphemeralFetish: It might mess the circular flow up
2016-07-31 00:32 EphemeralFetish: I could move the 3 between the 1 and 2 and put the 4 where the 3 was actually
2016-07-31 00:32 EphemeralFetish: That might work
2016-07-31 00:32 Asonate: could work too
2016-07-31 00:32 EphemeralFetish: But yeah
2016-07-31 00:32 EphemeralFetish: Gotta change the straight line
2016-07-31 00:33 Asonate: 02:07:063 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i know this is stupid and i have no idea how to fix
2016-07-31 00:33 Asonate: but you shouldnt nc a 1/6 stream on the fourth note
2016-07-31 00:33 Asonate: or rather, make the first 4 notes like this
2016-07-31 00:33 Asonate: because that could be missread as a 1/4
2016-07-31 00:33 EphemeralFetish: Hmm
2016-07-31 00:33 Asonate: cant judge readingwise
2016-07-31 00:34 Asonate: might be absolutely fine
2016-07-31 00:34 EphemeralFetish: I did it for the change in distance space
2016-07-31 00:34 Asonate: yeah i noticed
2016-07-31 00:34 Asonate: and thats justified tho
2016-07-31 00:34 EphemeralFetish: Ill have a word with some people about that though
2016-07-31 00:34 Asonate: which makes it so stupid
2016-07-31 00:34 EphemeralFetish: Yeah its a bit weird
2016-07-31 00:34 EphemeralFetish: That whole solo is a fucking mess so prepare yourself
2016-07-31 00:34 Asonate: 02:09:397 (1) - is it intentional you rek flow here
2016-07-31 00:35 Asonate: im generally not a big fan of repeats going back like this, so you hit a nerve haha
2016-07-31 00:35 EphemeralFetish: Well the head is in flow
2016-07-31 00:35 Asonate: 02:09:730 (2,3) - and naziblanket here
2016-07-31 00:35 Asonate: yeah
2016-07-31 00:35 EphemeralFetish: I might need to rotate it though
2016-07-31 00:35 Asonate: please do
2016-07-31 00:35 Asonate: position is awesome
2016-07-31 00:35 Asonate: just direction isnt to me
2016-07-31 00:36 Asonate: 02:24:064 (1) - here for example i think it fits way better
2016-07-31 00:36 EphemeralFetish: Yeah should be better now
2016-07-31 00:36 EphemeralFetish: Blanket should be good now too
2016-07-31 00:37 EphemeralFetish: Yeah its more like that one now
2016-07-31 00:37 Asonate: awesome
2016-07-31 00:37 EphemeralFetish: Slider body goes right down now
2016-07-31 00:37 Asonate: im really nazi with blanket shit
2016-07-31 00:37 Asonate: sorry for that
2016-07-31 00:37 Asonate: perfectionist coming through sometimes :'D
2016-07-31 00:37 Asonate: 02:48:057 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - <3
2016-07-31 00:37 EphemeralFetish: Nah I dont mind blankets in IRC mods
2016-07-31 00:37 EphemeralFetish: Someones gotta spot it
2016-07-31 00:37 Asonate: 02:49:391 (7) - would nc this tho!
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: yeah
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: i always think
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: if i dont
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: who will
2016-07-31 00:38 EphemeralFetish: Not sure about the NC there
2016-07-31 00:38 EphemeralFetish: Cause of the break
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: and then i spam with blankets lol
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: yeah
2016-07-31 00:38 EphemeralFetish: btw
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: but it would make a nice mirroring
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: 02:48:724 (1) - with this
2016-07-31 00:38 EphemeralFetish: Did you notice in the solo
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: ?
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: heavy undermapping?
2016-07-31 00:38 EphemeralFetish: How the guitar goes to 1/4 and the drums stay on 1/6 but go offbeat
2016-07-31 00:38 EphemeralFetish: Absolute cancer
2016-07-31 00:38 Asonate: i feel you
2016-07-31 00:39 EphemeralFetish: Well not undermapping
2016-07-31 00:39 Asonate: did i show you the newest cancer of kagayaki yet?
2016-07-31 00:39 Asonate: sudden shift in offset by 1/16
2016-07-31 00:39 EphemeralFetish: But I chose to ignore the guitar because of how stupid it would be
2016-07-31 00:39 Asonate: for 4 measures
2016-07-31 00:39 EphemeralFetish: Dont think so
2016-07-31 00:39 Asonate: this is bullshit lol
2016-07-31 00:39 Asonate: it should be fine for now tho
2016-07-31 00:39 Asonate: just gotta relisten everything alot
2016-07-31 00:40 EphemeralFetish: Its like that one VSnares song thats 3/8ths
2016-07-31 00:40 EphemeralFetish: Just why
2016-07-31 00:40 Asonate: wow
2016-07-31 00:40 Asonate: that sounds
2016-07-31 00:40 Asonate: interesting
2016-07-31 00:40 EphemeralFetish: The song is pretty cool actually
2016-07-31 00:40 EphemeralFetish: Frictional Nirvada if you're curious
2016-07-31 00:40 EphemeralFetish: Godspeed to anyone that tries to map it
2016-07-31 00:41 Asonate: i really wanted to map
2016-07-31 00:41 Asonate: hajnal2
2016-07-31 00:41 Asonate: but its 4:55 or smth
2016-07-31 00:41 EphemeralFetish: If you can extend the mp3 thats rankable
2016-07-31 00:41 EphemeralFetish: Well I mean
2016-07-31 00:41 EphemeralFetish: If you like copy a section and can fit it in somewhere
2016-07-31 00:41 EphemeralFetish: Not just adding spinner space at the end
2016-07-31 00:42 Asonate: 03:57:902 (9) - maybe nc this?
2016-07-31 00:42 Asonate: ik
2016-07-31 00:42 Asonate: i did that for secrets
2016-07-31 00:42 Asonate: which somehow deded
2016-07-31 00:42 Asonate: but meh, free slot i guess
2016-07-31 00:42 EphemeralFetish: Actually
2016-07-31 00:42 EphemeralFetish: I should do it on the 8
2016-07-31 00:43 Asonate: ye
2016-07-31 00:43 EphemeralFetish: How did I never spot that
2016-07-31 00:43 Asonate: i feel like you should 6,7,8,9
2016-07-31 00:43 Asonate: but
2016-07-31 00:43 EphemeralFetish: I think I did it again later
2016-07-31 00:43 Asonate: i tend to overkill nc placements
2016-07-31 00:43 Asonate: gonna hold an eye out :3
2016-07-31 00:43 Asonate: btw
2016-07-31 00:43 Asonate: mind telling me the secret
2016-07-31 00:43 EphemeralFetish: Let me know what you think of the hitsounds in the first half btw
2016-07-31 00:44 Asonate: to these small loop streams
2016-07-31 00:44 Asonate: hitsounds fit well imo
2016-07-31 00:44 EphemeralFetish: Slider converter
2016-07-31 00:44 Asonate: ye
2016-07-31 00:44 EphemeralFetish: You can convert sliders to streams
2016-07-31 00:44 Asonate: but do you
2016-07-31 00:44 Asonate: sliderart
2016-07-31 00:44 EphemeralFetish: Its a bit weird to get the hang of
2016-07-31 00:44 Asonate: or use small circle sliders
2016-07-31 00:44 EphemeralFetish: Nah
2016-07-31 00:44 EphemeralFetish: Most of these are by hand
2016-07-31 00:44 EphemeralFetish: Only the circles and shit are sliders
2016-07-31 00:44 Asonate: i thought so
2016-07-31 00:44 Asonate: because handplaced tend to look better
2016-07-31 00:44 Asonate: imo
2016-07-31 00:45 EphemeralFetish: Its near impossible to get even circular curves by hand so I only tend to convert for those
2016-07-31 00:45 Asonate: 04:30:569 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - for example
2016-07-31 00:45 Asonate: did you use 2 circle sliders
2016-07-31 00:45 Asonate: or just make one big sliderart for these
2016-07-31 00:46 EphemeralFetish: Uhh
2016-07-31 00:46 EphemeralFetish: I used one for the first loop
2016-07-31 00:46 EphemeralFetish: And did the second by hand
2016-07-31 00:46 Asonate: alright
2016-07-31 00:46 Asonate: im just curious
2016-07-31 00:46 Asonate: because i cant do loops well (yet)
2016-07-31 00:47 EphemeralFetish: I did do 2 streams that were slider art though
2016-07-31 00:47 EphemeralFetish: 05:22:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - This one
2016-07-31 00:47 Asonate: ooo
2016-07-31 00:47 Asonate: nice symmetry
2016-07-31 00:47 EphemeralFetish: -06:06:569 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - And this one
2016-07-31 00:48 EphemeralFetish: 05:07:902 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I did this with 2 circles but did the bend inbetween by hand
2016-07-31 00:48 Asonate: 05:39:902 (1) - you missed the hitsounds you had before
2016-07-31 00:48 Asonate: in sections like this
2016-07-31 00:48 EphemeralFetish: Ohh dw
2016-07-31 00:48 EphemeralFetish: I havent done that far
2016-07-31 00:48 Asonate: kk
2016-07-31 00:48 EphemeralFetish: You can tell how far I am by all the timing point spam
2016-07-31 00:48 Asonate: ooo
2016-07-31 00:49 EphemeralFetish: Keysounding is a pain, never do it
2016-07-31 00:49 Asonate: 06:06:569 (1,2,3,4,5) - on topic of streams
2016-07-31 00:49 Asonate: maybe make that section a bit more curvy
2016-07-31 00:50 Asonate: because this looks a slight bit offputting to me
2016-07-31 00:50 Asonate: with the leadin to the circle
2016-07-31 00:50 EphemeralFetish: Hmm
2016-07-31 00:50 EphemeralFetish: Yeah
2016-07-31 00:50 Asonate: didnt plan to keysound haha
2016-07-31 00:50 EphemeralFetish: Thats gonna be a nightmare to fix
2016-07-31 00:50 Asonate: no perfect hearing
2016-07-31 00:50 Asonate: i heard the same words
2016-07-31 00:50 Asonate: by kroytz
2016-07-31 00:50 Asonate: on his ascension to heaven haha
2016-07-31 00:51 EphemeralFetish: Id need to move the whole stream
2016-07-31 00:51 EphemeralFetish: So it moves from the previous slider correctly
2016-07-31 00:52 Asonate: could you slightly edit the slider?
2016-07-31 00:52 Asonate: if you cant fix without trouble, stick with it
2016-07-31 00:52 Asonate: im just so extremely nitpicky
2016-07-31 00:52 Asonate: i doubt bns will point that out tbh
2016-07-31 00:52 EphemeralFetish: Yeah I can bend it less maybe
2016-07-31 00:53 EphemeralFetish: Well if someone else mentions it then Ill def change it
2016-07-31 00:53 Asonate: 07:35:458 (5) - nc that
2016-07-31 00:53 Asonate: for me
2016-07-31 00:53 Asonate: ACTION runs
2016-07-31 00:53 EphemeralFetish: kek
2016-07-31 00:53 EphemeralFetish: Might as well for shits and giggles
2016-07-31 00:55 Asonate: ACTION giggles
2016-07-31 00:55 Asonate: alright
2016-07-31 00:55 Asonate: i couldnt really say anything about empress part
2016-07-31 00:55 Asonate: since i cant really tell you anything bad about beautiful streams
2016-07-31 00:55 EphemeralFetish: Yeah its only Bloodthirsty Im worried about
2016-07-31 00:55 Asonate: so thats about it
2016-07-31 00:56 EphemeralFetish: Empress just needs very minor optimization


also, starred, i shall invest in this.
squirrelpascals
hi im going to mod this now. m4m

a mod
• Check AI mod. You have unsnapped objects and a filesize problem apparently

• 00:29:397 (1,4) - blanket

• 00:35:287 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - this jump section feels poorly organized, especially with the flow of 00:35:620 (6,7,8,9) -

• 00:38:730 (1,2) - overlap these like you did with 00:38:897 (3,4) - etc?

• 00:47:730 (7,8,9) - 01:15:730 (3,4,5) - Why the spacing change?

• 00:59:064 (3,4,5,6) - it feels unstructured how these circles are spaced unevenly from their sliders before

• 01:01:397 (4) - nc

• 01:02:564 (1) - x160 y152

• 01:14:286 (3,4,5) - 01:18:286 (2,3,4) - this spacing change here feels random

• 01:35:397 (5) - nc

• 01:37:064 (6,2) - fix blanket

• 01:38:286 (3,4,5,6) - space evenly apart from eachother

• 01:38:286 (3,4,5,6) - x60 y160

• 01:47:508 (3,4,5) - space evenly

• 01:48:064 (3,5,6) - Make the jump form 5,6 parallel from the slider

• 01:49:397 (1,2) - inconsistent from 01:49:730 (3,4) -

• 02:00:842 (2,3) - space more like 02:01:176 (2,3) -

• 02:05:842 (4,5,1) - Should be a stream here?

• 02:13:064 (2) - Move it to flow into that stream better

• 02:22:897 - put something here?

• 02:49:391 (7,1,2) - same spacing with different gaps in timeline

Your stream parts in general feel a lot more stuctured and neat, imo

• 03:02:390 (4,1) - Space more?

• 03:03:946 (4,1,2) - This linear flow here doesnt feel like it suits the maps style

• 03:47:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Why isnt this mapped like 03:45:236 (1,2,3,4) - ? You do this kind of rhythm change a lot and i dont understand why

• 03:54:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - ^

• 03:55:013 (1) - 04:09:236 (1) - Why not do something more to exagerate these notes? I like what you did at 03:55:902 (1) - because the spacing and angle change is more apparent here

• 04:16:347 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - These streams sound overmapped in the song; i dont hear a drumroll

• 04:23:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ^

• 04:28:569 (2) - This placement feels random

• 04:41:680 (3,1) - space these

• 05:15:013 (1) - nothing to exaggerate this note?

• 05:18:569 (1) - ^, i think somehow you should put this note in 05:18:347 (1) - this notes place

• 05:41:347 (2,2) - 05:47:902 (1,3) - space

• 05:47:680 (5,6,1) - 05:48:569 (5,6,1) - same comment form earlier about linear flow

• 05:54:124 (1) - Yeah, theres a corner here, but i feel like this should still be exaggerated because it blends with he stream beforehand

• 06:29:236 (1,2,3,4) - Why the shape/angle change here from 06:28:347 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ?

• 06:31:458 - I feel like you abuse a 1/2 slider spam here too much; there's a more dynamic guitar solo that you could be illustrating here

• 06:46:347 (4) - reduce spacing

• 06:56:347 (1) - 06:59:902 (1) - exaggerate

• 07:00:791 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Stream shape feels awkwardly curved

• 07:19:013 (1) - exaggerate

what a map, gl :)
Topic Starter
EphemeralFetish

squirrelpascals wrote:

hi im going to mod this now. m4m

a mod
• Check AI mod. You have unsnapped objects and a filesize problem apparently

• 00:29:397 (1,4) - blanket

• 00:35:287 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - this jump section feels poorly organized, especially with the flow of 00:35:620 (6,7,8,9) -

• 00:38:730 (1,2) - overlap these like you did with 00:38:897 (3,4) - etc?

• 00:47:730 (7,8,9) - 01:15:730 (3,4,5) - Why the spacing change?

• 00:59:064 (3,4,5,6) - it feels unstructured how these circles are spaced unevenly from their sliders before

• 01:01:397 (4) - nc

• 01:02:564 (1) - x160 y152

• 01:14:286 (3,4,5) - 01:18:286 (2,3,4) - this spacing change here feels random

• 01:35:397 (5) - nc

• 01:37:064 (6,2) - fix blanket

• 01:38:286 (3,4,5,6) - space evenly apart from eachother

• 01:38:286 (3,4,5,6) - x60 y160

• 01:47:508 (3,4,5) - space evenly

• 01:48:064 (3,5,6) - Make the jump form 5,6 parallel from the slider

• 01:49:397 (1,2) - inconsistent from 01:49:730 (3,4) -

• 02:00:842 (2,3) - space more like 02:01:176 (2,3) -

• 02:05:842 (4,5,1) - Should be a stream here?

• 02:13:064 (2) - Move it to flow into that stream better

• 02:22:897 - put something here?

• 02:49:391 (7,1,2) - same spacing with different gaps in timeline

Your stream parts in general feel a lot more stuctured and neat, imo

• 03:02:390 (4,1) - Space more?

• 03:03:946 (4,1,2) - This linear flow here doesnt feel like it suits the maps style

• 03:47:013 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Why isnt this mapped like 03:45:236 (1,2,3,4) - ? You do this kind of rhythm change a lot and i dont understand why

• 03:54:124 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - ^

• 03:55:013 (1) - 04:09:236 (1) - Why not do something more to exagerate these notes? I like what you did at 03:55:902 (1) - because the spacing and angle change is more apparent here

• 04:16:347 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - These streams sound overmapped in the song; i dont hear a drumroll

• 04:23:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - ^

• 04:28:569 (2) - This placement feels random

• 04:41:680 (3,1) - space these

• 05:15:013 (1) - nothing to exaggerate this note?

• 05:18:569 (1) - ^, i think somehow you should put this note in 05:18:347 (1) - this notes place

• 05:41:347 (2,2) - 05:47:902 (1,3) - space

• 05:47:680 (5,6,1) - 05:48:569 (5,6,1) - same comment form earlier about linear flow

• 05:54:124 (1) - Yeah, theres a corner here, but i feel like this should still be exaggerated because it blends with he stream beforehand

• 06:29:236 (1,2,3,4) - Why the shape/angle change here from 06:28:347 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ?

• 06:31:458 - I feel like you abuse a 1/2 slider spam here too much; there's a more dynamic guitar solo that you could be illustrating here

• 06:46:347 (4) - reduce spacing

• 06:56:347 (1) - 06:59:902 (1) - exaggerate

• 07:00:791 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Stream shape feels awkwardly curved

• 07:19:013 (1) - exaggerate

what a map, gl :)
Cheers fam. Ill go through this tomorrow.
Zectro
lost first part of log cuz had to restart client
03:45 EphemeralFetish: Well Ill leave it for now then change it when I think of something
03:45 Zectro: my bad
03:47 Zectro: id stack 00:28:842 (9) - on 00:28:287 (4) - and 00:28:953 (10) - on 00:28:064 (1) - , making these play a bit better
03:48 EphemeralFetish: Im pretty adamant about keeping this pattern
03:48 Zectro: alright
03:48 EphemeralFetish: Unless more people mention it
03:48 EphemeralFetish: I might have to scale it down as well though
03:48 Zectro: im just worried about 00:28:842 (9,10,11) -
03:49 Zectro: feels a bit awkward
03:49 EphemeralFetish: Plays fine for me
03:49 Zectro: okido
03:49 EphemeralFetish: Just might be a bit too big as a whole
03:50 Zectro: 00:44:064 - this pattern doesnt play well at all haha, plus you didnt do anyhting like that at 00:33:397 -
03:50 Zectro: id at least make 00:44:064 (1) - 2 notes aswell, and 00:45:175 (3) - too, but i dont think that pattern as a whole is a good idea
03:51 Zectro: 00:50:508 (8,9,1) - doesnt play well, awkward to aim
03:52 EphemeralFetish: First one Im following drums, which is why it starts with a slider, cause theres no snare on the tail
03:52 EphemeralFetish: The second point. Is it just too snappy?
03:53 Zectro: first one sounds like you are trying to do something wit h the guitar way more than the drums
03:53 Zectro: which makes it confusing since that guitar is also at 00:44:064 (1,3) -
03:54 EphemeralFetish: Well the circles follow the snare hits, and the pattern is based of the guitar so kinda
03:54 Zectro: 2nd one seems extremely awkward to aim as i said
03:54 EphemeralFetish: Hmm
03:54 Zectro: first 00:50:397 (7,8) - , should be fine, but then also 00:50:619 (9,1) - , a bit too much
03:55 Zectro: a bit too much as in a bit too awkward of a pattern
03:55 EphemeralFetish: Ohh okay
03:55 EphemeralFetish: I can just put that between the 8 and the 1
03:55 Zectro: yeah
03:56 EphemeralFetish: Ill have to get some more comments on that back and forth part
03:56 EphemeralFetish: Cause it still bugs me
03:56 Zectro: 01:18:175 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - you keep changing directions, making it even harder to read lol, which is fine cuz the song is a mess so you are allowed to do this kind of stuff imo, but just saying, you have some very hard patterns :D
03:56 EphemeralFetish: Ohh yeah that one
03:57 EphemeralFetish: Thats one of like 2 times I do that
03:57 EphemeralFetish: I felt it was hype enough in the song to do it there
03:57 Zectro: i guess
03:57 EphemeralFetish: I have test played that part a lot, it does snap well
03:57 Zectro: do you testplay with ht?
03:58 EphemeralFetish: Nah
03:58 EphemeralFetish: I mean I cant get an A or anything but I can consistently pass this first song
03:58 Zectro: 01:43:620 (6,8) - stacking these is confusing again, but its still fine, cuz as i said, this song is so messy that you can pretty much do anything you want lmao
03:58 Zectro: thats also why its so hard to judge if these types of maps are ready to be bubbled etc
03:59 EphemeralFetish: Actually that might need to be changed
03:59 Zectro: 01:45:842 (6,1) - spacing is a bit big here
03:59 EphemeralFetish: Ill move it if another mod mentions it
03:59 EphemeralFetish: Ohh
03:59 EphemeralFetish: I remapped that fill and forgot to move it
03:59 Zectro: 01:51:064 (3,4,5) - woah there isnt this a bit too big
04:01 Zectro: 02:19:397 (1,2,3,4,5) - you shud remake this stream with distance snap, looks a bit messy
04:01 Zectro: like, the curve seems uneven
04:01 EphemeralFetish: Yeah that is big
04:01 EphemeralFetish: Ill have to come back and redo that
04:01 EphemeralFetish: I did use DS
04:02 EphemeralFetish: But yeah now I look its trash
04:02 EphemeralFetish: Gonna fix
04:02 Zectro: 02:26:509 (5,6,7,1) - distance between these is a bit much too imo
04:03 EphemeralFetish: Okay should flow around better now
04:03 Zectro: 02:54:279 (2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - this is great
04:03 Zectro: unlike the other one, this one actually plays well
04:03 EphemeralFetish: Ahh
04:04 EphemeralFetish: Yeah
04:04 EphemeralFetish: The drums line up better as well
04:04 EphemeralFetish: Thats why the first is pissing me off so much
04:05 Zectro: 03:02:390 (4,1) - pssst blanket
04:05 Zectro: anyways 03:02:390 (4,1) - doesnt play well
04:05 Zectro: breaks flow
04:05 Zectro: you have some very nice flow going, but that breaks it
04:05 Zectro: try finding better places for 03:02:613 (1,2,3) -
04:06 EphemeralFetish: Ahh, I was too focused on the stack to see the blanket
04:06 EphemeralFetish: Let me look at this flow quick
04:06 Zectro: i could come up with something myself but im pretty sure you can fix it yourself
04:07 EphemeralFetish: Okay redid that combo
04:07 EphemeralFetish: Should be good
04:07 Zectro: 03:08:613 (2,1) - this doesnt really work since the movement you have to make aim wise is just too hard
04:07 Zectro: from right to left entering a stream that goes right again
04:08 Zectro: you need to make sure you ease into the stream aiming wise
04:08 EphemeralFetish: Aight, Ill pull it up a bit and move way to the left for now
04:08 Zectro: and this is doing the complete opposite, which is too hard for this map
04:08 EphemeralFetish: I want to keep that emphasis reaching the stream though
04:09 Zectro: well
04:09 Zectro: maybe x341y54 for 03:08:613 (2) - would still work
04:09 Zectro: since then at least its less of an across the screen jump
04:09 EphemeralFetish: Yeah thats almost exactly where I had it
04:09 Zectro: still wont be comfortable to play though xD
04:09 EphemeralFetish: If that doesnt work out thinking I can move it to the left of 03:08:057 (3) -
04:10 EphemeralFetish: Ill see what others have to say as well
04:10 EphemeralFetish: But yeah you are right it feels like shit
04:10 Zectro: 03:10:946 (2,3,4,5,6) - scale this down a bit please, not too much but a bit
04:10 EphemeralFetish: I rushed this end
04:10 EphemeralFetish: Okay fair enough
04:10 Zectro: pause between 03:10:057 (1,2) - is kind of awkward
04:10 Zectro: but idk what you could do to fix it
04:11 EphemeralFetish: Yeah
04:11 EphemeralFetish: I might just need to move the stream away some more
04:11 Zectro: lets continue with the other song, 75% speed is doing me wonders, i can actually see it as a 'normal' map haha
04:12 EphemeralFetish: You dont have to if you dont want to
04:12 EphemeralFetish: Ill still mod your map with this
04:12 EphemeralFetish: I dont mind
04:12 Zectro: its okay
04:12 Zectro: 04:02:402 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - id make this turn a bit wider/bigger/larger/whatever the word is
04:13 Zectro: so its easier to aim and it doesnt overlap itself that quickly
04:13 EphemeralFetish: This is the problem with this song
04:13 EphemeralFetish: Changing any of these streams is so much work
04:13 Zectro: yeah most of them are fine too, but this o ne is crucial so id consider it if i was you
04:14 EphemeralFetish: btw ignore that this is half hitsounded
04:14 EphemeralFetish: Yeah definately
04:14 EphemeralFetish: Usually if I dont agree Ill still change something if two people mention it
04:15 Zectro: other curves further down the map are fine
04:15 Zectro: 04:59:458 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2) - this one is on the edge of being fine and not being fine
04:15 Zectro: but whatever
04:16 EphemeralFetish: Yeah thats one that I might change if other mention it as well
04:16 Zectro: never thought id tell you to make this map harder but 05:09:680 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - is really at the peak of the song so id increase the spacing like 05:07:902 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
04:17 EphemeralFetish: Hmm
04:17 EphemeralFetish: Maybe
04:18 EphemeralFetish: I thought of matching the drums to sorta wind down the segment
04:18 EphemeralFetish: But yeah I can easiley up the DS on that a bit
04:18 Zectro: you want to match the previous streams tho
04:18 EphemeralFetish: Cant make it too big or it goes off screen
04:18 Zectro: yeah haha
04:18 EphemeralFetish: 0.6 is the best I can get
04:18 EphemeralFetish: 0.9 is previous stream
04:19 EphemeralFetish: Might have to leave it
04:19 Zectro: yeah
04:19 Zectro: do what you think is best
04:19 EphemeralFetish: We'll put it on the "if 2 people say" list
04:19 Zectro: id think of redisigning 06:28:347 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
04:20 Zectro: to a pattern with less overlaps
04:20 EphemeralFetish: Yeah
04:20 Zectro: i mean you can do a bunch of cool patterns that really fit there, this one has quite a few overlaps 06:28:569 (3,2) - 06:29:013 (3,2) - 06:29:013 (3,3) - etc
04:20 EphemeralFetish: Im not too happy with that either
04:21 EphemeralFetish: Will defo change when I come up with something
04:21 Zectro: 06:30:902 (4,1,2) - this is confusing asf hahah
04:21 Zectro: because of the stacking
04:21 Zectro: but imo its fine
04:22 Zectro: its a very hype part of the song so a very hard part is allowed
04:22 EphemeralFetish: I originally had something different but a friend kept complaining about it
04:22 Zectro: its just that
04:22 Zectro: the direction change from 06:30:902 (4,1) - is very unexpected
04:22 Zectro: xD
04:22 EphemeralFetish: 06:30:569 (1) - From here to the slider it used to be a sorta S shape with increasing spacing
04:23 EphemeralFetish: Yeah I might need to change it again
04:23 Zectro: i really like ur slider shapes good job
04:23 EphemeralFetish: Inspired by Goldenwolfs Megalomania if you havent seen that
04:23 EphemeralFetish: Very good map
04:24 Zectro: 06:39:013 (1,2,3,4) - plays kinda awkward since its right after 06:38:569 (1,2,3,4) - and right before 06:39:458 (1) -
04:24 Zectro: ah yes i see
04:24 EphemeralFetish: Ehh I kinda like it
04:25 Zectro: 06:39:013 (1,2,3,4) - 1st time uve done sth like this
04:25 Zectro: in entire map tho
04:25 Zectro: so rip consistency but okido
04:25 EphemeralFetish: Variety :^)
04:25 EphemeralFetish: Kinda wanted to build up the jump section
04:26 Zectro: jump sections good
04:26 EphemeralFetish: Thank god
04:26 EphemeralFetish: Cause I really didnt want to change it
04:26 Zectro: :)
04:27 Zectro: rest is fine too
04:27 EphemeralFetish: Stupid how thats what makes it 8.4* And not the stream in the last kiai
04:27 Zectro: yeah sr is broken for high bpm maps
Rapthorn
SPOILER
01:50:286 (4,5,6,7) -
01:58:064 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
02:00:730 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
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02:39:391 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) -
02:48:724 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
02:49:612 (1,2,3,4,5) - tfw you wanna make two triangles but you only have 5 notes
https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/mMltGmQ.png

Rapthorn 💠 - Today at 11:01 PM
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01:47:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -

Voice chat mod

Several mods over the course of the map being made that was lost due to voice chats not being in text
this was just the last one

rnak when

SPOILER
00:10:731 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Missing clap/whistle/finish 
Cheesecake
I mentioned a few other things to you in various places yeah you know what I mean

  1. eek
  2. 00:20:675 - You've missed a beat here, though it looks intentional. Having a triplet on the position of (4) would be better imo
  3. 00:21:064 (2) - This should be spaced out a bit more from (1) since it's a snare, like what you did with (4)
  4. 00:26:730 (1) - Probably take this NC off, since in all your other big combo finisher things, you haven't put an NC. Or, you could add an NC to the others. Your choice! (referring to 01:01:064 (1,2,3,4) - 02:27:730 (2,3,4,5) - 02:38:064 (1,2,3,4) - 02:49:612 (1,2,3,4,5) - 03:10:946 (2,3,4,5,6) -
  5. 00:36:398 (3,7) - These get stacked pretty closely on the timeline, where it could cause mis-reads that don't really have to happen. Consider moving (7) a bit to the bottom right of (3)
  6. 00:38:730 (1,2) - Any reason for these to be spaced differently?
  7. 01:01:064 (1,2,3) - You should do something different with these, the drums are a lot louder than the ones at 01:00:064 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - so it shouldn't be mapped the same
  8. 01:13:842 (4) - Did you know if you ctrl+g this twice it shortens the white node thing (hey you can even ctrl+a and ctrl+g and it does it for the entire map how interesting)
  9. 01:24:730 (1) - Make it symmetrical you fuck
  10. 01:24:730 (1,2) - Feelin sky
  11. 01:29:397 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The guitar sound that I assume you're basing these jumps off of gets a higher pitch with each one, so you could make the third one have a bigger jump
  12. 01:41:397 (1,3,5) - Minor useless aesthetic point these are a bit close for me, 01:42:730 (1,3,5) - is better
  13. 02:38:064 (1,2,3,4) - These all have the same sounds, so having different spacing doesn't fly with me
  14. 02:50:057 (5) - add a soft finish xd
  15. 03:06:613 (2) - I understand the tapping rhythm you use for 03:06:057 (1,2,1) - these, as it goes with the vocals, but I don't see any reason for this particular slider
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