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Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT [Osu|CatchTheBeat]

posted 2016-10-07T21:04:16+00:00

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_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2016-10-19T15:31:53+00:00

Eraser wrote:
hi

[Insane]
00:04:781 (2,3) - This looks uncomfortable. Going to keep it there
00:04:939 (3,4) - Try to make this a slider instead. And change (4) end to a circle. Though on the red tick 00:05:254 - there is a faint piano sound,so that can't be ignored,so no,no change.
00:13:781 (6) - Simplify the shape. This represent nothing to the song imo. The curves kind of represent how deep and rough the sound is,not too sure how to make sense of what im saying,but I feel that it fits the song since the sound kind of sounds like a delayed drum,and the curves kind of play it perfectly,sorry to say,but I feel like keeping this.
00:27:360 - Think about placing a note here. Not going to as the sound there is negligible,and due to the hitsounds it can barely be heard.
00:37:465 - ^ ^
00:39:833 (1) - This isn't good imo. As it skipped some mappable sounds there. Also doesn't really represent the vocals well. I can't find any other slider shapes, since putting straight sliders and curved sliders look really boring,I mean REALLY boring. So I'd rather something unique than something right.
00:43:623 - Think about placing a note here. I can't hear anything there,even if it is to create better flow,I intended for the insane to NOT be sightread easily,therefore I'm not placing a note.
00:49:623 (4,5,6) - You randomly starts following the violin here. Better if you change it to double note instead, to map the toms. Not exactly going for that,the hitsounds kind of play it out more easily,so I feel like keeping this, it was much worse than a simple triple beforehand,so this was supposedly an improvement. If I get any complaints on this,I'll see what I can do.
01:00:202 - There's a kick here. Your slider doesn't need to end at the blue tick. Keeping it as I am mirroring what I did here 00:57:517 (1,2) -
01:07:307 (2) - Stack this? Onto what? o-o
01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is overmapped. I don't see how it is overmapped, due to the movement of the cursor,it is fairly easy for insane players to jump to the stream,along with the fact that the stream itself follows the already-built-up anticlockwise flow,therefore it doesn't feel out of place. The sound of the stream may be soft,however because we added the hitsounds,it became more louder and distinct,making it the perfect time for a climax.
01:14:886 (2,3,4,5) - ^ You may be right on this,however it would feel like it'd take away and break the momentum of the player,because I was using sliders and more sliders beforehand,therefore adding notes would feel out. Secondly, I feel that the players would expect something to 'not ruin their expectations.' If I were to change it into https://gyazo.com/7fd3b784d3c0b9483286945c0ec8f0c6, it'd sound and look mundane and lifeless. If I were to replace it with https://gyazo.com/ff166a1c76b9ae3dceb8b2e84eb86aeb, the momentum would be broken due to the note 01:14:886 - as it would feel off to play a random note after spamming sliders. Thirdly, The hitsounds(mentioned alot) amplifies the mood of the song to make it as tense as possible,therefore it'd sound and play well, it'd be something they'd expect in a kiai time of a song and thats what I'm going for.
01:26:412 (4) - This looks offscreen. I asked #modhelp, they said that if I changed my resolution to 4:3 and it didn't go offscreen,it was rankable,therefore, it isn't offscreen.
01:30:360 (1) - I know you want to do some creativity, but this doesn't represent anything well and you skipped some sounds there. I think this slider should just replace the spinner instead. If you're talking about the piano notes,they were played by the outmost curves of the sakura slider(I want to call it that.) And due to the massive use of those Sakura Trees and petals 00:07:984 - and 01:32:412 - , I feel that a flower slider would fit this song perfectly. A spinner would be repetitive since it doesn't even play the notes either, it doesn't even have slider stars to play the sounds,so I don't want to remove this.

I apologise for rebutting all of the suggestions,howeevr I felt that it was neccessary to stand my ground due to the fact that I don't want to be some person who simply adds in mods as it 'looks better' to the modder,as suggestions are subjective.
Thanks for modding anyways!

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That's it for now :>

and

Don't forget :>

I won't lose to you guys <3

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-10-19T16:31:39+00:00

No_Gu wrote:
M4M from my queue

[Nowa]
spacing setting in kiai time is not suitable imo.you set most 1/2s for a big spacing,which can't express the rhythm I lowered it by a little bit. It was kinda excessive but i wanted to create a map that is kinda fast but still easy going.

Eraser wrote:
hi

[Nowa's Flower]
00:02:412 (2,3) - Could you make this a slider? It looks pretty uncomfortable since it's on the beginning of the song. Same applies for other notes with large time distance. I follow the piano notes there and i'm not so sure if a slider would work after all as there aren't any hold sounds. The whistle in the note emphasizes the bit longer piano note anyway. About the uncomfortablility i'd want to hear few more opinions and maybe suggestions until i'd make my fine decision
00:08:886 (3) - Make this straight or curved. This shape doesn't represent anything imo. B-b-but muh aesthetics ;w;. Fixed
00:15:044 (2,3,4) - Couldn't you fill the white ticks? I had a complete overhaul with that pattern. Will take this into the count when making the new pattern
00:47:886 - You skipped a sound here. F- me, done
01:16:465 (1) - No sound here. Shouldn't be clickable. ~~Clear piano note~~ Wait you had wrong verson =w=. Just ignore this pls
01:27:833 (1) - Instead of doing this, try making a slider to 01:28:781. The short repeat slider has to be there because it folllows the guitar/banjo/the_fuck_is_that_instrument sounds. Also what i would be exactly following if i make a new slider to 01:28:781 - ?

Thanks for modding~

Update

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Caput Mortuum

1,854 posts

Joined March 2016

Caput Mortuum 2016-10-19T22:54:14+00:00

Clearing some things.

_Meep_ wrote:
Eraser wrote:
01:07:307 (2) - Stack this? Onto what? o-o I think there was another hitcircle in the same place... I forgot :> Try to select that circle and move a few seconds back and stack where possible.

01:30:360 (1) - I know you want to do some creativity, but this doesn't represent anything well and you skipped some sounds there. I think this slider should just replace the spinner instead. If you're talking about the piano notes,they were played by the outmost curves of the sakura slider(I want to call it that.) And due to the massive use of those Sakura Trees and petals 00:07:984 - and 01:32:412 - , I feel that a flower slider would fit this song perfectly. A spinner would be repetitive since it doesn't even play the notes either, it doesn't even have slider stars to play the sounds,so I don't want to remove this. Seems like you misunderstood me here. What I mean is not swapping the place, but I'm trying to tell you to map the vocals, and remove the spinner then move the long slider to replace the spinner.
I won't lose to you guys <3

_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-20T04:15:15+00:00

Eraser wrote:
01:07:307 (2) - Stack this? Onto what? o-o I think there was another hitcircle in the same place... I forgot :> Try to select that circle and move a few seconds back and stack where possible. I'll try to find it

01:30:360 (1) - I know you want to do some creativity, but this doesn't represent anything well and you skipped some sounds there. I think this slider should just replace the spinner instead. If you're talking about the piano notes,they were played by the outmost curves of the sakura slider(I want to call it that.) And due to the massive use of those Sakura Trees and petals 00:07:984 - and 01:32:412 - , I feel that a flower slider would fit this song perfectly. A spinner would be repetitive since it doesn't even play the notes either, it doesn't even have slider stars to play the sounds,so I don't want to remove this. Seems like you misunderstood me here. What I mean is not swapping the place, but I'm trying to tell you to map the vocals, and remove the spinner then move the long slider to replace the spinner. The 2nd curve,at the top plays the 'iii' of the 'kiiii-miiii-eee' the last bottom curve then plays the 'e' sound', therefore it IS mapped to the vocals.

I won't lose to you guys <3

:>[/quote]
:3

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Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-10-20T05:13:35+00:00

something something moe anime girls something rank more moe

cute face

pre mod ramble

box

mod

"good map cant wait for it to be ranked!"

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-10-20T05:45:21+00:00

Oh my gosh moe anime girls, seriously osu! needs to rank more moe anime girls.

!(8*^_^)7

this mapset is pretty nice as it is, i only a couple things tbh also add some hitsounds

eays

where are the hitsounds? :c

00:09:517 (1,2,3) - this isn't a perfect triangle, which is okay but one thing going on here is that the object spacing is a bit inconsistent and looks a tiny bit goofy, maybe space 00:10:781 (3) - further away from 00:09:517 (1) - and dont blanket? something like

00:22:465 (1,2) - try to orient in a way that can hit 00:24:044 - because for the following combos you map that beat, its really convenient here since its right after a spinner you can basically remap backwards from 00:24:991 - , i just feel like the vocal emphasis on 00:24:044 - is strong enough here just as it was the proceeding parts to deserve at least a slider

oh hi are you looking at that spinner? cool me too h e h e

9/6=3/2 and 3-2=1 , there are 3 mappers and 2 GD but only 1 set meaning YOU'RE ALL THE SAME PERSON monstrata confirmed

00:41:254 (4) - maybe NC since mapping to a different musical element? (vocals > piano)

dahahahahaaaaaah she's cute wtf

hrad

histoudns :c

00:22:781 (2) - woah thats nice shape

00:24:991 (1,2) - blaknet!

00:56:096 (8) - space further from 00:55:939 (7) - , deserves its own emphasis and is slightly jarring because the momentum between 00:55:781 (6,7,8) - is pretty linear but the momentum dies 00:55:939 (7,8) - right when musically it's need just as much if not more. one way of doing this (the way that wouldn't mess up the rest of the map) would be to re orient 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - instead honestly, try to find similar flow just different end point and that would solve it all

01:10:149 (1,2) - hi blanket c:

TEEEEEE HEHEHEEHEHEE MOEE

isnaen

o hey hitsounds c:

00:13:781 (6) - o dang thats nice shape lol

00:24:360 (4,1) -

LOL THIS IS SUPER NITPICKY AND LIKE... DOESN'T MEAN SHIT IN TERMS OF PLAYABILITY but that hit circle is just a bit too much to the right (its literally like 5 pixels, at this point i should probably go sudoku myself cus it means nothing)

01:11:412 - i feel a flow change is warranted here

01:30:360 (1) - WHAT THE FUCK THAT'S BEAUTIFUL ITS MONSTRATA ITS MONSTRATA CONFIRMED I FUCKING KNEW IT LOOK HE EVEN DID SLIDER ART

01:31:623 - OH MY FUCC IT EVEN ALIGNS ON A BEAT CHANGE DUDE IM DONE ITS MONSTRATA HAHAHA HI MOMSTRAT HOW ARE YOU ENJOYING MY MOD? Xdd

AHAHAHAHA I CANT SHE'S SO MOE LOL

hi nowa

hello h e h e C: you get a cookie cus nice map

good map cant wait for it to be ranked!

Shocola

287 posts

Joined July 2015

Shocola 2016-10-20T06:16:09+00:00

M4M!

?

[Easy]
Where's the video?
00:09:517 (1,3) - this slider are too close to each other, try to make other pattern
00:20:886 (1) - end this spinner at this white tick 00:22:149 -

[Normal]
Where's the video?
pretty in good state

[Hard]
00:18:360 (4,5) - i wouldn't recommend using this pattern, it kinda brake the slider flow (make the slider look like they are men't for each other)
00:25:307 (2,4) - need better blanket
01:10:149 (1,2) -
00:45:991 (5) - this made me speechless
01:29:096 (1) - don't make this slider go reverse make it like this vv

01:30:360 - make a slider here

Im starting to get lazy

[Insane]
00:39:833 (1,2) - overlaps
01:24:360 (5,6) - need better blanket

[Flower]
01:05:570 - add a note here
01:06:202 - ^
01:06:833 - ^

_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-20T12:33:41+00:00

- Yoshimaro - wrote:
Oh my gosh moe anime girls, seriously osu! needs to rank more moe anime girls.

!(8*^_^)7

this mapset is pretty nice as it is, i only a couple things tbh also add some hitsounds

eays
where are the hitsounds? :c :_:

00:09:517 (1,2,3) - this isn't a perfect triangle, which is okay but one thing going on here is that the object spacing is a bit inconsistent and looks a tiny bit goofy, maybe space 00:10:781 (3) - further away from 00:09:517 (1) - and dont blanket? something like Fixed

00:22:465 (1,2) - try to orient in a way that can hit 00:24:044 - because for the following combos you map that beat, its really convenient here since its right after a spinner you can basically remap backwards from 00:24:991 - , i just feel like the vocal emphasis on 00:24:044 - is strong enough here just as it was the proceeding parts to deserve at least a sliderFixed

oh hi are you looking at that spinner? cool me too h e h e

9/6=3/2 and 3-2=1 , there are 3 mappers and 2 GD but only 1 set meaning YOU'RE ALL THE SAME PERSON monstrata confirmed
00:41:254 (4) - maybe NC since mapping to a different musical element? (vocals > piano) Fixed

dahahahahaaaaaah she's cute wtf

hrad
histoudns :c
:(
00:22:781 (2) - woah thats nice shape thanx

00:24:991 (1,2) - blaknet! Fixed

00:56:096 (8) - space further from 00:55:939 (7) - , deserves its own emphasis and is slightly jarring because the momentum between 00:55:781 (6,7,8) - is pretty linear but the momentum dies 00:55:939 (7,8) - right when musically it's need just as much if not more. one way of doing this (the way that wouldn't mess up the rest of the map) would be to re orient 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - instead honestly, try to find similar flow just different end point and that would solve it all Nu, cuz it doesn't break the momentum to a hard mode player, without that closing in distance, that part'd be highlighted as overmapped and gg

01:10:149 (1,2) - hi blanket c: hi ;3

TEEEEEE HEHEHEEHEHEE MOEE

isnaen
o hey hitsounds c:

00:13:781 (6) - o dang thats nice shape lol thanx

00:24:360 (4,1) - LOL THIS IS SUPER NITPICKY AND LIKE... DOESN'T MEAN SHIT IN TERMS OF PLAYABILITY but that hit circle is just a bit too much to the right (its literally like 5 pixels, at this point i should probably go sudoku myself cus it means nothing)lol k

01:11:412 - i feel a flow change is warranted here Nope no flow change there,its supposed to go in that flow all the way so the stream later on'd be easier

01:30:360 (1) - WHAT THE FUCK THAT'S BEAUTIFUL ITS MONSTRATA ITS MONSTRATA CONFIRMED I FUCKING KNEW IT LOOK HE EVEN DID SLIDER ARTlul

01:31:623 - OH MY FUCC IT EVEN ALIGNS ON A BEAT CHANGE DUDE IM DONE ITS MONSTRATA HAHAHA HI MOMSTRAT HOW ARE YOU ENJOYING MY MOD? Xdd im *cough* expert *cough* at it,totally,yes,yea,mm,yes,ok,stop,ik

AHAHAHAHA I CANT SHE'S SO MOE LOL

hi nowa
hello h e h e C: you get a cookie cus nice map WHY DONT I GET A COOKIE >:O

good map cant wait for it to be ranked!

thanx for moddin'!

[-Chocola-] wrote:
M4M! ?

[Easy]
Where's the video? Fixed LOL
00:09:517 (1,3) - this slider are too close to each other, try to make other pattern Fixed
00:20:886 (1) - end this spinner at this white tick 00:22:149 - Fixed

[Hard]
00:18:360 (4,5) - i wouldn't recommend using this pattern, it kinda brake the slider flow (make the slider look like they are men't for each other) I don't get what you're saying LOL the pattern seems fine to me
00:25:307 (2,4) - need better blanket Fixed
01:10:149 (1,2) - Fixed
00:45:991 (5) - this made me speechless I suppose you mean that its bad? Adding a straight or curved slider would look boring as hell,imagine it. Though Im not sure if this slider as it is carries any more impact than a normal slider does. Imo, it does.
01:29:096 (1) - don't make this slider go reverse make it like this vv Fixed

01:30:360 - make a slider here mappin to da piano notez

Im starting to get lazy

[Insane]
00:39:833 (1,2) - overlaps I am aware,it is intentional.
01:24:360 (5,6) - need better blanket Fixed

Thanks for modding

Vovan

547 posts

Joined March 2014

Vovan 2016-10-20T19:37:22+00:00

Hi :3
A random M4M appears !

[General]

Easy and Normal kiais are different than Hard, Insane and flower diffs.

[Easy]

00:01:939 (1,2) - Improve this blanket (reverse of the slider (2))

00:04:465 - Make it clickable for more emphasis

00:06:991 - ^

00:08:254 (4,1,2,3) - The overlap enter (4&2) looks weird. Why not place (2) in front of (1) and (3) will blanket 2 ? (And if you don't have enough place, place (1) higher)

21360,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
Inherithed point not useful

00:23:412 (1,3,4) - The spacing enter the blanket is different and that looks weird.

If you don't understand what I'm talking about :

00:27:517 (1,2) - Improve blanket

00:34:465 (4,5) - Strange flow

00:35:096 (5,6) - Improve blanket (end of 6)

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55623,-100,4,1,1,45,0,0
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These inherithed points aren't useful

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57439,-100,4,1,1,60,0,0
Same

01:24:044 (3,4) - Improve blanket

01:29:412 (3,4) - Why this stack ?

89570,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
Inherithed point not useful

92728,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
Same

[619's Normal]

00:01:939 (1) - Change the end of thhis slider to here : 00:02:412 - It looks better

00:28:465 (4,1) - A double blanket will look better than a symmetry

00:29:096 (1) - Why this NC ?

11965,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0

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89570,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0

92728,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0

These inherithed points aren't useful

[Hard]

00:17:570 (2,5) - Touching sliders

00:25:939 (4,5) - A blanket ??

00:32:886 (3,6) - Overlap (you can see it here 00:33:419 - )

00:34:149 (6,1) - ^

00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Disappointing pattern

01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nice pattern ! I really like it !

01:22:465 (1,2) - Just a 1/1 slider will be good

01:24:360 (2,3,4) - Curve them a bit less to make them better

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-10-20T23:02:59+00:00

- Yoshimaro - wrote:
eays
where are the hitsounds? :c See the response to lexis

hi nowa
hello h e h e C: you get a cookie cus nice map Nom nom sank you nom nom

good map cant wait for it to be ranked!

[-Chocola-] wrote:
[Flower]
01:05:570 - add a note here
01:06:202 - ^
01:06:833 - ^

For the first and the second, i honestly don't hear anything that would be mapped under a clickable there ;^; If you could help me understand what those notes would follow i'd be more than happy to map those two notes

For the third one, there is a drum hit i missed, fixed

Lexis wrote:
Hi :3
A random M4M appears !

[General]

Easy and Normal kiais are different than Hard, Insane and flower diffs.

[Easy]
21360,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
55149,-100,4,1,1,30,0,0
55307,-100,4,1,1,35,0,0
55465,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0
55623,-100,4,1,1,45,0,0
55781,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
55939,-100,4,1,1,55,0,0
57202,-100,4,1,1,30,0,0
57281,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0
57360,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
57439,-100,4,1,1,60,0,0
89570,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
92728,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
Inherithed point not useful

As the hitsounder for the mapset, the hitsounding is in process (I'm lazy =w=) and all the inherited points will be dealt with that i don't see to be "useful". Currently i have finished the hitsounding for insane and my own difficulty and i will finish them for hard and easy soon. For the normal, it technically was hitsounded by @619 and unless he/she doesn't want me to make the hitsounds for the diff i won't be changing/responding to mods regarding/touching them

Thanks for modding guys~

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146,153,41570,1,2,0:0:0:0:
169,324,41728,1,2,0:0:0:0:
203,107,41886,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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264,298,42833,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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170,99,43465,5,2,3:1:0:0:
210,229,43623,1,8,0:0:0:0:
322,92,43781,5,0,3:0:0:0:
261,292,43939,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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30,283,45202,1,8,0:0:0:0:
57,149,45360,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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256,192,92965,12,4,95412,0:0:0:0:

_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-21T17:01:02+00:00

Lexis wrote:
Hi :3
A random M4M appears !

[General]

Easy and Normal kiais are different than Hard, Insane and flower diffs. Fixed

[Easy]

00:01:939 (1,2) - Improve this blanket (reverse of the slider (2)) Fixed

00:04:465 - Make it clickable for more emphasis Fixed

00:06:991 - ^ Fixed

00:08:254 (4,1,2,3) - The overlap enter (4&2) looks weird. Why not place (2) in front of (1) and (3) will blanket 2 ? (And if you don't have enough place, place (1) higher) Fixed

21360,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
Inherithed point not useful

00:23:412 (1,3,4) - The spacing enter the blanket is different and that looks weird. I guess its fixed?
If you don't understand what I'm talking about :

00:27:517 (1,2) - Improve blanket Fixed

00:34:465 (4,5) - Strange flow Keeping it there

00:35:096 (5,6) - Improve blanket (end of 6) Fixed

55149,-100,4,1,1,30,0,0
55307,-100,4,1,1,35,0,0
55465,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0
55623,-100,4,1,1,45,0,0
55781,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
55939,-100,4,1,1,55,0,0
These inherithed points aren't useful

57202,-100,4,1,1,30,0,0
57281,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0
57360,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
57439,-100,4,1,1,60,0,0
Same

01:24:044 (3,4) - Improve blanket Fixed

01:29:412 (3,4) - Why this stack ? Fixed

89570,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
Inherithed point not useful

92728,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
Same

[Hard]

00:17:570 (2,5) - Touching sliders Fixed

00:25:939 (4,5) - A blanket ?? Fixed

00:32:886 (3,6) - Overlap (you can see it here 00:33:419 - ) Fixed

00:34:149 (6,1) - ^ Fixed

00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Disappointing pattern I don't see how this is disappointing,this is pretty challenging for a hard mode player,considering hard mode players always go with the flow and don't see jumps as much in a hard mode,therefore I feel like I should keep it

01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nice pattern ! I really like it ! Thanks? XD

01:22:465 (1,2) - Just a 1/1 slider will be good Fixed

01:24:360 (2,3,4) - Curve them a bit less to make them better Fixed

Thanks for modding ;d

619

409 posts

Joined May 2015

619 2016-10-21T19:03:40+00:00

No_Gu wrote:
[Normal]
big gap from easy imo
00:29:096 (1) - remove NC - fixed
fine - thanks

Lexis wrote:
[619's Normal]

00:01:939 (1) - Change the end of thhis slider to here : 00:02:412 - It looks better - fixed

00:28:465 (4,1) - A double blanket will look better than a symmetry - I wanted it to do so i will not change

00:29:096 (1) - Why this NC ? - Already fixed

11965,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0

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These inherithed points aren't useful - ok, thx, fixed

Thanks for mods!

UDP

619

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_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

_DT3 2016-10-22T21:50:20+00:00

I'm a kd farmer

[Easy]

First of all, try to stay consistent with your NCs, try putting a NC every 2nd measure for easy, that means like for example 00:04:465 (3) - , 00:06:991 (5) - and 00:14:570 (4) - . Don't forget there are more
And generally I thought this diff was rather inconsistent, so just try bringing in some consistency
00:04:465 (3,4) - 00:06:991 (5,6) - Why not map the sounds here when you mapped them 00:01:939 (1,2) - ? They do deserve to be mapped
00:12:675 (2,3) - Since beginners will follow the whole slider, this flow is not so good and can be better.
00:14:570 (4,1) - You can simply avoid the overlap by mapping more towards the top
00:24:991 (4) - You mapped to the vocals here -> 00:22:781 (1,2,3) - but not here. Why?
00:58:781 (3,1) - 01:01:307 (3,1) - Same goes with the flow here as above
01:03:833 (3,4) - The flow could easily be better by flipping it horizontally
01:05:096 (4,5,6) - A simple Repeat slider could do

I'll mod the rest later on if you remind me, ran out of time today

_Meep_

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Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-23T08:08:56+00:00

_DT3 wrote:
I'm a kd farmer

[Easy]
First of all, try to stay consistent with your NCs, try putting a NC every 2nd measure for easy, that means like for example 00:04:465 (3) - , 00:06:991 (5) - and 00:14:570 (4) - . Don't forget there are more Fixed
And generally I thought this diff was rather inconsistent, so just try bringing in some consistency Fixed
00:04:465 (3,4) - 00:06:991 (5,6) - Why not map the sounds here when you mapped them 00:01:939 (1,2) - ? They do deserve to be mapped Considering that in the opening of the song, one part is for the slow part(the starting) and the more aggressive/fast part(the part before the vocals), I think the transition between that should have thenotes while the slow part shouldn't,if not it'd be unexpected for the new/easy players that the rhythm is quite fast even for a slow part of a song.
00:12:675 (2,3) - Since beginners will follow the whole slider, this flow is not so good and can be better. Fixed
00:14:570 (4,1) - You can simply avoid the overlap by mapping more towards the top Fixed
00:24:991 (4) - You mapped to the vocals here -> 00:22:781 (1,2,3) - but not here. Why? I cant map notes one whole tick after the slider,because in easy,you'd be able to see the note before the spinner even ends
00:58:781 (3,1) - 01:01:307 (3,1) - Same goes with the flow here as above To make it similar I made it so the sliderends where the reverses were would point in the direction of the next 1/1 slider,since it's very difficult to move them around in a way that would make them avoid overlapping.
01:03:833 (3,4) - The flow could easily be better by flipping it horizontally Fixed
01:05:096 (4,5,6) - A simple Repeat slider could do Fixed
I'll mod the rest later on if you remind me, ran out of time today

Okie

Rumia-

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Joined July 2012

Rumia- 2016-10-23T08:45:30+00:00

m4m~

[Nowa]
00:09:517 (1) - its too edge .. maybe consider this to move inwards a little ??
00:18:675 (2,3) - suggestion to rotate it by -30 , flows better imo! how my suggestion looks like

00:20:728 (5,2) - avoid this overlap? minor
00:33:044 (4,5) - i think better this both as overlaps ( act as anti jump) would give great impact ~
00:48:044 (3,4) - try unstack this , make a little jump here ? would be more consistent i think
01:05:570 - here and the other red ticks u can add circles imo , its a bit weird to have these pauses while the previous part is intensely mapped as in 1/2s
01:16:781 (3) - you can nc this , looks more organise with the nc grouping~
01:27:044 (2,3) - make them same ds as 01:26:412 (3,1) -

[Insane]
maybe just ar9 better??
00:07:465 (3,4) - conflict with your general idea around this part such as 00:03:675 (2,3) - , 00:06:202 (2,3) - or others u stack on the next slider not on previous
00:13:307 (5) - nc here ~
00:30:991 (1,2) - make a small movement here , since its kinda ( off ) feeling of just 1 stacks and others are jump maybe u can make them like http://puu.sh/rSAMx.jpg
00:36:044 (4,1) - reverse this nc
00:39:833 (1,2) - instead of these unintentional overlaps , you can make them likethis looks more organise imo!

01:18:202 (2,4,5) - maybe

01:18:991 (4) - nc
01:22:781 (1,2) - i think you catch it wrong .. http://puu.sh/rSB1R.jpg fits better
01:24:675 (6,7,1) - http://puu.sh/rSB3l.jpg
01:30:360 (1) - cool :O
01:35:412 (1) - personal opinion , i think its best if you just delete this and extend spinner up til here~ kind of sudden ;o;

[Hard]
AR -1
00:04:465 (1,2) - try this ?

00:32:886 (3) - since you are following vocals , why not this too correct way to follow vocal

00:35:412 (2,3) - same as above
00:53:649 (5) - i think better keep up with the 1/2s instead , look more consistent imo
00:55:939 (7,8) - whats with the sudden low spacing ;w;
01:10:149 (1,2,3,4) - maybe make the blanket looks unified..

01:13:860 (5) - same as i said previously
01:22:465 (1) - doesnt have to extend to 3/4 slider imo..

[619]
00:06:991 (1) - it should end at previous red tick

[easy]
00:05:728 (4) - it should end at previous red tick
00:33:202 (2) - remove this circle to give space for newbies to read ~
00:38:254 (2,4) - remove , 00:38:570 (2) - add reverse ~

_Meep_

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Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-23T18:19:46+00:00

Rumia- wrote:
m4m~

[Insane]
maybe just ar9 better??
00:07:465 (3,4) - conflict with your general idea around this part such as 00:03:675 (2,3) - , 00:06:202 (2,3) - or others u stack on the next slider not on previous Fixed
00:13:307 (5) - nc here ~ Fixed
00:30:991 (1,2) - make a small movement here , since its kinda ( off ) feeling of just 1 stacks and others are jump maybe u can make them like http://puu.sh/rSAMx.jpg no,cuz I like to be a troll
00:36:044 (4,1) - reverse this nc Fixed
00:39:833 (1,2) - instead of these unintentional overlaps , you can make them likethis looks more organise imo! Fixed

01:18:202 (2,4,5) - maybe Fixed

01:18:991 (4) - nc Fixed
01:22:781 (1,2) - i think you catch it wrong .. http://puu.sh/rSB1R.jpg fits better Fixed
01:24:675 (6,7,1) - http://puu.sh/rSB3l.jpg Fixed
01:30:360 (1) - cool :O thx ;o
01:35:412 (1) - personal opinion , i think its best if you just delete this and extend spinner up til here~ kind of sudden ;o; Time to see some misses <3

[Hard]
AR -1
00:04:465 (1,2) - try this ? Fixed

00:32:886 (3) - since you are following vocals , why not this too correct way to follow vocal Fixed

00:35:412 (2,3) - same as above Fixed
00:53:649 (5) - i think better keep up with the 1/2s instead , look more consistent imo I think adding the note there makes it more challenging so I won't change anything
00:55:939 (7,8) - whats with the sudden low spacing ;w; Distancing it would make it feel and play like it's been overmapped,and it's to give players some leniency after they did JUMPS in a HARD MDOE(OMG THEY DID IT) well yea
01:10:149 (1,2,3,4) - maybe make the blanket looks unified.. I doubt it'd give the same impact if I were to switch to yours,as 01:10:149 (1,2) - Play like its the slow progression into the climax,while 01:10:781 (3,4) - plays like its going to start the climax, and even though they may look different in terms of distance,it plays well as its like 'increasing distance as the climax comes in' kind of thing, like how 01:10:149 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - distance increases

01:13:860 (5) - same as i said previously ^
01:22:465 (1) - doesnt have to extend to 3/4 slider imo.. Fixed

[easy]
00:05:728 (4) - it should end at previous red tick If you listen to the parts before and after,I mapped to a certain piano sound throughout the first part of the song
00:33:202 (2) - remove this circle to give space for newbies to read ~ Fixed
00:38:254 (2,4) - remove , 00:38:570 (2) - add reverse ~ Fixed?

Thx for modding ;o

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-10-23T20:27:22+00:00

Rumia- wrote:
m4m~

[Nowa]
00:09:517 (1) - its too edge .. maybe consider this to move inwards a little ?? I tweaked it by a little bit. Should be better
00:18:675 (2,3) - suggestion to rotate it by -30 , flows better imo! how my suggestion looks like Let's say this may not be something i'm looking from that pattern. The 4 is supposed to be paralled with the straight parts (when compared to the 4). This is in the grey zone over all atleast for now. I may consider this again if people start seeing that as a huge problem

00:20:728 (5,2) - avoid this overlap? minor Fixed~
00:33:044 (4,5) - i think better this both as overlaps ( act as anti jump) would give great impact ~ Uhh... Stack 4 with something, stack 5 with 4 or what? I'm bit confused what do you exactly mean
00:48:044 (3,4) - try unstack this , make a little jump here ? would be more consistent i think Made a mini jump, let's see how it goes
01:05:570 - here and the other red ticks u can add circles imo , its a bit weird to have these pauses while the previous part is intensely mapped as in 1/2s Just like i responded to chocola, i honestly don't hear anything that would be mapped under a clickable there ;^; If you could help me understand what those notes would follow i'd be more than happy to map those two notes
01:16:781 (3) - you can nc this , looks more organise with the nc grouping~ Sure, why not
01:27:044 (2,3) - make them same ds as 01:26:412 (3,1) - Alrighty

Thanks for modding~

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-NeBu-

435 posts

Joined March 2014

-NeBu- 2016-10-23T21:00:00+00:00

hey, m4m: (mod here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481088)

just some basic stuff I think, dont expect2much :C

Nowa's Flower:

00:08:254 (1,2) - I would slider it.
00:17:570 (3,4) - ctrl+g the rhythm and change placement maybe? c:
00:22:939 (3,4) - ctrl+g and remove 00:22:939 (3) - in my opinion you get better rhythm
00:25:939 (1) - volume 5% the slider end?
00:27:202 (1,2) - just a suggestion: 00:27:202 (1) - up to blue tick, 00:27:517 (2) - move to white tick and make it longer until white tick and volume 5% slider end of first slider.
00:29:412 (4) - short to red tick or 5% volume slider end
01:07:465 (5) - I should add circle here, maybe just ctrl+c 01:07:149 (3) - this
01:22:465 (4) - volume 5% slider end

Kinda annoying mod cuz of 5% slider ends, but I think they fit better in those slow parts since they're kinda relaxing and give better feeling of song while playing it. Overall great diff in my opinion, it was pleasure

Insane:

01:03:517 (6,1) - slightly blanket but... fuck it?
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - maybe place the circles at end of every next slider?
00:18:044 (3,4) - I would prefer circle at white tick and triple with slider
01:18:991 (1) - volume 5% slider end
01:21:517 (4,5) - ^
01:30:360 (1) - nice one.

after all its fine for me.

Hard:

00:32:886 (3,4) - isnt it to close?
btw. Kiai should start here I think 00:57:517 (2) - same with NC as 00:57:202 (1) - should still be blue?
01:11:412 (5,6,7,8) - idk if it should be this way. its like slider but kinda fucked up xD
01:13:939 (6) - NC

619's Normal:

00:06:991 (1) - 2long? should be red tick I think?

nothing more here I think.

Easy:

00:03:202 (2) - red tick
00:04:149 (3) - and maybe here slider up to 00:04:465 (4) - instead of circle? (weird but why not)
00:59:728 (4) - circle?

After all good mapset, good quality and great song. I hope you can rank it soon, well done. waiting for m4m, gl hf! <3

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-10-23T22:03:37+00:00

NeBuSC2 wrote:
hey, m4m: (mod here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481088)

just some basic stuff I think, dont expect2much :C

Nowa's Flower:

00:08:254 (1,2) - I would slider it. Both notes would be considered equal as they have same stylish sound they are following at about same volume. 00:08:886 (3) - For example here instead the head is mapped to the much more powerful piano beat which has a small hold effect when the tail is mapped to a normal piano beat
00:17:570 (3,4) - ctrl+g the rhythm and change placement maybe? c: The rhythm is fine, the clickables are on the main piano beats which is the main (and most noticable) instrument
00:22:939 (3,4) - ctrl+g and remove 00:22:939 (3) - in my opinion you get better rhythm These two 00:23:096 - 00:23:254 - have to be mapped no matter what as the first one is the endpoint for "ee" sound and the other one is mapped to the start of the "na" sound. As i want these two to be mapped how you'd think that would work in your vision?
00:25:939 (1) - volume 5% the slider end? Fixed all of the sliderend things
00:27:202 (1,2) - just a suggestion: 00:27:202 (1) - up to blue tick, 00:27:517 (2) - move to white tick and make it longer until white tick and volume 5% slider end of first slider. What even is the logic behind this =.= What am i trying to fix? The pattern does not need changes like that, at all
00:29:412 (4) - short to red tick or 5% volume slider end
01:07:465 (5) - I should add circle here, maybe just ctrl+c 01:07:149 (3) - this What
01:22:465 (4) - volume 5% slider end

Kinda annoying mod cuz of 5% slider ends, but I think they fit better in those slow parts since they're kinda relaxing and give better feeling of song while playing it. Overall great diff in my opinion, it was pleasure

After all good mapset, good quality and great song. I hope you can rank it soon, well done. waiting for m4m, gl hf! <3

Thanks for moderino~

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Title:Re:TrymenT
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Artist:Murasaki Hotaru
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Creator:_Meep_
Version:Nowa's Flower
Source:Re:LieF ～親愛なるあなたへ～
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Shiguma

476 posts

Joined May 2014

Shiguma 2016-10-23T22:04:15+00:00

Hey, here from my queue

General

619's Normal doesn't include the video, the other diffs do.

Easy

01:26:570 (4,1) - The intersection could be straight down the middle of 01:26:570 (4) -
00:06:991 (1) - Offscreen by a tiny bit
00:17:096 (1) - ^

619's Normal

As said earlier add the video

00:25:781 (3) - Should be a sound here I think

Hard

00:32:886 (3,4) - Very close blanket compared to other blankets
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -

cool

Insane

00:08:254 (1,2,1) - Because of stacking this looks bad imo
00:16:149 (3,1) - Could stack these maybe
01:24:360 (3,4) - Could be blanketed better

Nowa's Flower

00:11:728 (3,1,2) - These have different timing gaps but I feel like it would look better with even distance from each other
00:56:096 (4) - loop at the end would look nicer if slightly bigger
01:30:360 (1) - The thing at the end goes up too much, would look better more round

That's all

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-10-24T15:13:58+00:00

Shiguma wrote:
Hey, here from my queue

Nowa's Flower
00:11:728 (3,1,2) - These have different timing gaps but I feel like it would look better with even distance from each other Do you mean by placement or timeline wise? I'll just assume that you mean by placement wise which is an issue i'm more than ready to fix.
00:56:096 (4) - loop at the end would look nicer if slightly bigger I want it to have a swirl effect, not a circlular end and it does work for my intentions quite well
01:30:360 (1) - The thing at the end goes up too much, would look better more round I'll try to create another swirl there. Let's see how it goes : )

That's all

Sankyu for mod~

Updaterino W

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ryza

679 posts

Joined October 2011

ryza 2016-10-25T10:20:48+00:00

m4m from #modhelp for u~ ;o ~~posting for now, gonna edit as I finish more diffs and I'll let you know when I'm done~~ done!

Easy

I think this difficulty has quite a few rhythmic errors, so I'll mostly go over those. There's a lot of places where your sliders start on one sound but they end on a completely different sound and it feels very weird for the player.
For the entire intro section, I would recommend remapping a bit and following the piano melody more closely. It feels nicer to play and it's still sparse enough for this difficulty.
00:03:202 (2) - should end 1/2 earlier on the red tick. if you do this either make it a reverse slider or add a note at 04:149. this way it's following the piano melody it starts on all the way through, instead of starting on the melody and ending on a bass note.
00:04:465 (1) - remove NC
00:05:728 (2) - same as above. end 1/2 earlier and make it a reverse slider.
I was writing everything out and decided it was easier to just take a screenshot of what I would do for this intro instead lol http://puu.sh/rUVJD.png - try it out and listen to it! (this starts from the very beginning of the map)
00:18:360 (2) - maybe move this slider so the start is blanketed by 1?
00:20:886 (1) - don't really like this spinner. i would just replace the start of it with a note. there's a few different instruments here but none of them say "spin" to me lol. if you do this, make a slider from 22:149 - 23:096
00:24:991 (4) - NC
00:27:517 (1,2) - these might play better if you mapped them like this http://puu.sh/rUWjt.png
00:37:623 (1,2) - imo these should be mapped to the vocals same way as above. if not, 1 should definitely start at 37:623 instead
00:42:360 (1,2,3) - this rhythm is very very unintuitive. consider moving the 2 back 1/2 beat and the 3 back 1 beat to make it follow the vocals. that's what i want to do every time i play it. adjust spacing as necessary
00:44:886 (1) - i'd end 1 beat earlier and add a note
00:58:781 (3) - i think the position for this slider is ugly. like this? http://puu.sh/rUWwH.png
01:00:044 (1,2,3) - if you make the change above, you can copy the previous pattern and ctrl+> twice to make it look nice ;o
01:02:254 - The vocal here is WAY too strong to not have something clickable here.
01:03:833 (3) - this could blanket better
01:09:833 (4) - NC
01:11:412 (7) - make this a normal slider ending at 1:12:044, add a note at 1:12:360. remove 01:12:675 (1) -
01:17:728 (1) - rhythms here don't make any sense with the song. i would remap the next few seconds. suggestion: http://puu.sh/rUWP7.png (with the first note at 01:17:412)

619's Normal

Imo, this map needs a lot of polishing. I would recommend the mapper to go through it carefully and make sure every object is placed exactly where they think it should be to look best. Flow is fine and rhythms are fine, so I'll just point out a few things as examples. Feel free to call back for a re-check on this diff if you try your best to tidy it up and I'll go a bit more in depth.
Here are the examples:

00:02:886 (2) - this slider should line up with the next one
00:05:412 (3) - this note should line up with the previous slider
00:08:886 (4) - I think this would like nicer as a curved slider blanketing the end of (3)
00:15:044 (2) - this is just preference but this might look nicer curved the other way. play around with it.
00:15:991 (3) - NC

If you agree with some of these, then do a self-check on the map for more things like this and just neaten it up a bit.

Hard

Overall not much to say about this one. Good job!
00:04:465 (1) - move the NC to the previous slider
00:18:202 (3,4) - consider moving these so the curve w/ the next slider looks nicer
00:22:781 (2,3) - this blanket can be improved
00:39:202 (4) - i would move this so it's lined up with the slider
00:39:833 (6) - NC
00:44:570 (1) - move this slightly further away from the previous slider
00:55:939 (7,8) - is there a reason these aren't spaced the same as the rest of the jumps? it plays rly bad
00:57:202 (9) - NC here imo
00:59:728 (8) - and here
01:02:254 (8) - and here
01:03:517 (4) - and here
01:21:833 (5) - nc here instead of that next slider
01:23:728 (1) - if you do that then NC here
01:25:307 (6) - extend to 1:25:939, add note on 1:26:254
01:32:886 (5) - move the very top point to 372,19 so that the end lines up with the start

Insane

Might lower the HP a bit. If you aren't an exceptional spinner, the ending can kill you from around half hpish? idk I died here with dt lol
00:04:781 (2) - consider making this a jump instead of stacking it, 144,260 is a nice spot imo
00:05:728 (1,2,3) - consider changing this pattern to something like this? http://puu.sh/rUZSc.png
00:16:939 (7) - move to 284,185
00:17:096 (1) - stack on 00:15:991 (1) -
00:17:096 (1,2) - i like these more if they're curved a bit instead of straight
00:30:991 (1,2) - move these down a bit so they're lined up with the slider
00:34:149 (1) - i would move this a bit further from the previous slider
00:36:675 (1) - same
00:38:096 (2,3) - should find a different way to place these so they aren't stacked imo
00:43:939 (2) - i would make this a 1/2 slider instead of a jump because the loud bass drum is only the first 2 notes, and then add a note at 44:412
00:44:886 (1) - move this NC to the previous slider
00:49:939 (1) - move this NC to the next slider
00:57:202 (1,2,3,4,1) - I think the spacing on this stream is too low actually, and you should try to map it so slider curvers upwards instead of downwards (fits the music better)
01:00:044 (1) - move NC to previous slider
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - very nice
01:09:833 (4) - NC here and remove the next NC
01:10:781 (1) - remove NC
01:11:097 (2) - add NC and remove next NC

Nowa's Flower

Solid diff with fun jumps and good flow. Still needs some polishing to be great tho
00:22:939 (3) - try moving to 241,74 to blanket better
00:24:044 (2) - 264,247 so it flows better with (4) in the previous combo
00:27:202 (1) - this is just personal preference but I think the rhythm you use in this combo and the next is too sparse, maybe try this and give it a listen? http://puu.sh/rUYml.png
00:29:412 (4) - no reason for this to be 3/4, just make it a normal 1/2 slider
00:30:675 (4) - make this just a normal note and stack it close to the next note
00:34:149 (2,3,1) - might seem nazi but these could be placed more carefully, (2) - [286,222], (3) - [308,118], (1) - [150,29]
00:34:781 (1) - remove nc, add it to the next slider
00:37:307 (1) - try make this a jump between 2 notes instead of a slider, it should accent the bass a lot better.
00:42:360 (1) - way too close to the previous slider. I would move it somewhere around 495,192
00:42:360 (1) - same as above, too close. I'd also try to keep this slider moving to the left instead of downwards to preserve flow: http://puu.sh/rUYJG.png
00:53:570 (5,6,1) - these aren't evenly lined up, try moving the slider to 489,34
00:54:991 (1) - try putting the second anchor point at 43,212 to make the angle look nicer
01:02:570 (1) - this is too close to the previous slider, separate them a bit. I'd also make this slider 1/1 instead of 1/2 and just make the next notes a triple. if you don't want to do that you can just make the slider into 2 notes instead, but I don't like this slider as it is
01:03:517 (6) - i think this should be a jump instead of a slider, and the nc should be here instead of the next slider
01:10:149 (1) - this NC should be on previous slider
01:19:465 (2) - this note is there but i don't think it's prominent enough to consider mapping it. remove
01:19:939 (4) - NC should be here instead
01:22:465 (1) - I would change the rhythm here to follow the piano more, like so: http://puu.sh/rUZ7P.png
01:27:044 (2) - remove this note imo
01:32:254 - probably need to add a note here
01:32:728 (4) - i would just make this two notes instead of a reverse slider that isn't following the music

Last edited by ryza 2016-10-25T13:17:07+00:00, edited 5 times in total.

_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-25T11:52:10+00:00

NeBuSC2 wrote:
hey, m4m: (mod here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481088)

just some basic stuff I think, dont expect2much :C

Insane:

01:03:517 (6,1) - slightly blanket but... fuck it? Fixed
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - maybe place the circles at end of every next slider? I like to be a troll,along with that comes a greater impact the notes give onto the player as they go from stationary to a big jump.
00:18:044 (3,4) - I would prefer circle at white tick and triple with slider Nah, The wya it is, it flows pretty well by itself and represents the parts of th esong accordingly,so I dont think there are any problems with it
01:18:991 (1) - volume 5% slider end Fixed
01:21:517 (4,5) - ^ Fixed
01:30:360 (1) - nice one. thanks <3

after all its fine for me.

Hard:

00:32:886 (3,4) - isnt it to close? Fixed
btw. Kiai should start here I think 00:57:517 (2) - same with NC as 00:57:202 (1) - should still be blue? Fixed
01:11:412 (5,6,7,8) - idk if it should be this way. its like slider but kinda fucked up xD 01:13:939 (6) - NC Fixed

Easy:

00:03:202 (2) - red tick idk what you're pointing out XD
00:04:149 (3) - and maybe here slider up to 00:04:465 (4) - instead of circle? (weird but why not) You highlighted wrongly again XD
00:59:728 (4) - circle? No,its to follow the flow at 00:57:517 (1,2,3) -
Shiguma wrote:
Hey, here from my queue

General
619's Normal doesn't include the video, the other diffs do.

Easy
01:26:570 (4,1) - The intersection could be straight down the middle of 01:26:570 (4) -
00:06:991 (1) - Offscreen by a tiny bit Fixed
00:17:096 (1) - ^ Fixed

Hard
00:32:886 (3,4) - Very close blanket compared to other blankets Fixed
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - cool thx

Insane
00:08:254 (1,2,1) - Because of stacking this looks bad imo It plays well and doesn't look too bad tho >_> well I'll see about others' opinion on it
00:16:149 (3,1) - Could stack these maybe Fixed
01:24:360 (3,4) - Could be blanketed better Fixed

That's all
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After all good mapset, good quality and great song. I hope you can rank it soon, well done. waiting for m4m, gl hf! <3

Thanks for moddin <3

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-10-25T20:35:55+00:00

Silynn wrote:
m4m from #modhelp for u~ ;o

Nowa's Flower
Solid diff with fun jumps and good flow. Still needs some polishing to be great tho Yup and that is why we need people like you, modders~
00:22:939 (3) - try moving to 241,74 to blanket better Done
00:24:044 (2) - 264,247 so it flows better with (4) in the previous combo They are different patterns and they don't really have to interact with each other. As these are supposed to be a pattern 00:22:939 (3,4,1) - (slidertail3|note4 with the slider1) and then these 00:23:412 (1,2,3) - for another one (circular flow over the sliders). I may be wrong but i don't think they have to be associated like that
00:27:202 (1) - this is just personal preference but I think the rhythm you use in this combo and the next is too sparse, maybe try this and give it a listen? http://puu.sh/rUYml.png I think the note placement in your example is too clutch when compared to the fact i'm trying to mainly follow vocals for that part and alternatively piano/any other noticable type of beat. I may fix something according to this if people keep nothing this out
00:29:412 (4) - no reason for this to be 3/4, just make it a normal 1/2 slider As i covered the fact where i follow the vocals but that slider is mapped to the "ki" sound which would continue to here 00:29:728 - but that has to be clickable due to the strong piano beat so the logical option is to make the slider 3/4 which is the reason i'm keeping it as one
00:30:675 (4) - make this just a normal note and stack it close to the next note I'm not so sure. I want the "ta" to be mapped and as that has sort of a hold effect i personally feels that it's better to have it as a slider
00:34:149 (2,3,1) - might seem nazi but these could be placed more carefully, (2) - [286,222], (3) - [308,118], (1) - [150,29] Yes they could be placed more carefully but those suggested spots ruin the patters compeletely as they are now. Though the 1 is bit off so i moved it bit towards the suggestion because it was off by a bit
00:34:781 (1) - remove nc, add it to the next slider Why? I consider that hitcircle to be mapped on the major beat starting new beat circulation
00:37:307 (1) - try make this a jump between 2 notes instead of a slider, it should accent the bass a lot better. Alright
00:42:360 (1) - way too close to the previous slider. I would move it somewhere around 495,192 Fixed
00:42:360 (1) - same as above, too close. I'd also try to keep this slider moving to the left instead of downwards to preserve flow: http://puu.sh/rUYJG.png Tbh that totally breaks the flow. The flow is snapped right now (and you hopefully know how that works because i'm not going to explain it here for you) but it's bit off right now which will be fixed. http://puu.sh/rVkO6/6ddf61d93f.png Here i have demonstrated the two main ways to use flow for sliders like that. (Red = Circular, Green = Snapped)
00:53:570 (5,6,1) - these aren't evenly lined up, try moving the slider to 489,34 They are evenly lined up because i have a way to insure that anytime. Also when you have the slider placed on that point you can see from this note 00:53:649 (6) - that the DS is not even
00:54:991 (1) - try putting the second anchor point at 43,212 to make the angle look nicer I may do this in the future but i don't really see it as a problem because it technically is part of the triangular pattern over these 00:54:991 (1,2,3) - notes (Slidertail1|Note2|Note3)
01:02:570 (1) - this is too close to the previous slider, separate them a bit. I'd also make this slider 1/1 instead of 1/2 and just make the next notes a triple. if you don't want to do that you can just make the slider into 2 notes instead, but I don't like this slider as it is Increased the DS but honestly "you disliking" the slider is not a reason to seperate it into two notes. And for the 1/1 slider suggestion this 01:02:728 - bass drum beat would be ignored which is never good. It can be mapped under a slidertail just fine and that is what i have done.
01:03:517 (6) - i think this should be a jump instead of a slider, and the nc should be here instead of the next slider I do not NC for more notable vocal lines. I always NC to the beat circulations/other major beats. About the jump i'm not sure because there is technically a hold sound but i don't know would it be that important after all. If someone else points this out i will most likely fix it
01:10:149 (1) - this NC should be on previous slider I do not NC for more notable vocal lines. I always NC to the beat circulations/other major beats
01:19:465 (2) - this note is there but i don't think it's prominent enough to consider mapping it. remove Removing that note leaves a compeletely notable note unmapped which would become "prominent" right after the note is removed
01:19:939 (4) - NC should be here instead I do not NC for more notable vocal lines. I always NC to the beat circulations/other major beats
01:22:465 (1) - I would change the rhythm here to follow the piano more, like so: http://puu.sh/rUZ7P.png I made some clickable changes that follow the way you represent the pattern in the example but i don't think using only hitcircles would be a good choice
01:27:044 (2) - remove this note imo Same reason as the "not prominent" note
01:32:254 - probably need to add a note here Done
01:32:728 (4) - i would just make this two notes instead of a reverse slider that isn't following the music There are few instruments that is actually following (guitar, the triangle kind of instrument which name i don't remember and the piano)

Also where you even would place those two notes? Maybe answering this would help me to understand or debunk the suggestion

Thanks for moderino~

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_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-26T06:03:53+00:00

Silynn wrote:
m4m from #modhelp for u~ ;o ~~posting for now, gonna edit as I finish more diffs and I'll let you know when I'm done~~ done!

Easy
I think this difficulty has quite a few rhythmic errors, so I'll mostly go over those. There's a lot of places where your sliders start on one sound but they end on a completely different sound and it feels very weird for the player.
For the entire intro section, I would recommend remapping a bit and following the piano melody more closely. It feels nicer to play and it's still sparse enough for this difficulty.
00:03:202 (2) - should end 1/2 earlier on the red tick. if you do this either make it a reverse slider or add a note at 04:149. this way it's following the piano melody it starts on all the way through, instead of starting on the melody and ending on a bass note. True,though a reverse slider that are both 5/4 and 4/4 would not work since it doesn not fit the music, it played no part of the piano and acted as if it was its own. So I didn't bother and went straight for the 2/1 sliders,which would fit the general beat of the song. The notes may be a bit confusing,Im not too sure, however this is simply at the start of the song,the beat is really easy to understand and its easier since it's at the start, they could simply just restart,therefore I think this doesn't need a change. The repeat sliders you suggested would work really well in terms of rhythm,however it would get repetitive as the player would just move his cursor back and forth and it'd feel boring to him.
00:04:465 (1) - remove NC Fixed
00:05:728 (2) - same as above. end 1/2 earlier and make it a reverse slider. As I said above^
I was writing everything out and decided it was easier to just take a screenshot of what I would do for this intro instead lol http://puu.sh/rUVJD.png - try it out and listen to it! (this starts from the very beginning of the map) All said above^
00:18:360 (2) - maybe move this slider so the start is blanketed by 1? Not exactly clear on which (1) you're talking about,there are some NCs in this part,so Im not too sure ;w;
00:20:886 (1) - don't really like this spinner. i would just replace the start of it with a note. there's a few different instruments here but none of them say "spin" to me lol. if you do this, make a slider from 22:149 - 23:096 All the other diffs have a spinner on them here at this exact part, though I can see why you're arguing that it doesn't fit for easy. The slider that you suggested wouldn't play well since there isn't really any shape that fits that part.
00:24:991 (4) - NC Fixed
00:27:517 (1,2) - these might play better if you mapped them like this http://puu.sh/rUWjt.png I tried the one you did and tried out certain variations as well. It may just be me, but I feel that mine fits better at this part, having the pause is pretty relaxing for an easy player,so I'd say this is ok.
00:37:623 (1,2) - imo these should be mapped to the vocals same way as above. if not, 1 should definitely start at 37:623 instead Not gona change these
00:42:360 (1,2,3) - this rhythm is very very unintuitive. consider moving the 2 back 1/2 beat and the 3 back 1 beat to make it follow the vocals. that's what i want to do every time i play it. adjust spacing as necessary I find this part ok, I doubt the players would
00:44:886 (1) - i'd end 1 beat earlier and add a note This plays pretty well as it is now, asked some beginners for testplays and they all said its fine
00:58:781 (3) - i think the position for this slider is ugly. like this? http://puu.sh/rUWwH.png Removed the slider to make for better flow and easier to tap
01:00:044 (1,2,3) - if you make the change above, you can copy the previous pattern and ctrl+> twice to make it look nice ;o Its a different part and the voices don't match the first repeat slider. The player would most likely follow the 'imaaaaa' sound,rather than the general beat of the song at this time, so I went ahead made slider+ note + slider to fit their taste more,if not it'd feel out of tune.
01:02:254 - The vocal here is WAY too strong to not have something clickable here. Newbies wouldn't know that there WOULD be a vocal there, and it'd feel out of the sudden for them,so I started it 1/2 a tick after.
01:03:833 (3) - this could blanket better Fixed
01:09:833 (4) - NC Fixed
01:11:412 (7) - make this a normal slider ending at 1:12:044, add a note at 1:12:360. remove 01:12:675 (1) - It'd be too harsh for the newbies to 'predict' that there would be a beat there. The fact that they have to listen in more on that part makes it tons of times harder for them, and it'd feel out of tune because they feel its too sudden. A repeat slider allows the newbies to cross this part well, even if they did not know the tune and part of the song,therefore I feel that reverse sliders are prominent in easy diffs.
01:17:728 (1) - rhythms here don't make any sense with the song. i would remap the next few seconds. suggestion: http://puu.sh/rUWP7.png (with the first note at 01:17:412)

Hard
Overall not much to say about this one. Good job!
00:04:465 (1) - move the NC to the previous slider That slider is a continuation from the previous note and the next note(the current NCed one) is a new tune,so no
00:18:202 (3,4) - consider moving these so the curve w/ the next slider looks nicer Fixed
00:22:781 (2,3) - this blanket can be improved Fixed
00:39:202 (4) - i would move this so it's lined up with the slider Fixed
00:39:833 (6) - NC Fixed
00:44:570 (1) - move this slightly further away from the previous slider Fixed
00:55:939 (7,8) - is there a reason these aren't spaced the same as the rest of the jumps? it plays rly bad MAI GAWD READ DA PREVIOUS MODS XD
00:57:202 (9) - NC here imo
00:59:728 (8) - and here
01:02:254 (8) - and here
01:03:517 (4) - and here
01:21:833 (5) - nc here instead of that next slider
01:23:728 (1) - if you do that then NC here
01:25:307 (6) - extend to 1:25:939, add note on 1:26:254 vocals feel better this way
01:32:886 (5) - move the very top point to 372,19 so that the end lines up with the start Fixed

Re-Fixed some of the NCs
Insane
Might lower the HP a bit. If you aren't an exceptional spinner, the ending can kill you from around half hpish? idk I died here with dt lol Im a meme,ofc 6.9 is needed
00:04:781 (2) - consider making this a jump instead of stacking it, 144,260 is a nice spot imo Its a pretty calm part of the song, I doubt players would expect something like this
00:05:728 (1,2,3) - consider changing this pattern to something like this? http://puu.sh/rUZSc.png Fixed
00:16:939 (7) - move to 284,185 Fixed
00:17:096 (1) - stack on 00:15:991 (1) - Fixed
00:17:096 (1,2) - i like these more if they're curved a bit instead of straight Fixed
00:30:991 (1,2) - move these down a bit so they're lined up with the slider Fixed
00:34:149 (1) - i would move this a bit further from the previous slider Plays fine since you dont see the overlap
00:36:675 (1) - same This plays pretty well by itself lol
00:38:096 (2,3) - should find a different way to place these so they aren't stacked imo Nah,plays fine
00:43:939 (2) - i would make this a 1/2 slider instead of a jump because the loud bass drum is only the first 2 notes, and then add a note at 44:412 Doesn't fit imo, The hitsounds make the drums pretty prominent and distinct,so its ok if its not a slider
00:44:886 (1) - move this NC to the previous slider The previous slider would be hard to hit if not for the followpoint
00:49:939 (1) - move this NC to the next slider Fixed
00:57:202 (1,2,3,4,1) - I think the spacing on this stream is too low actually, and you should try to map it so slider curvers upwards instead of downwards (fits the music better) If I were to space it further,there would be people saying its overmapped. With it being as close as it is now, players would barely have to move their mouse and they would only need to move in one direction. The spacing is due to the fact that this part is right after a spinner,which may cause players to lose aim ability afterwards.
01:00:044 (1) - move NC to previous slider Previous sliders were mapped to the piano,so this doesn't make sense.
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - very nice Thx
01:09:833 (4) - NC here and remove the next NC Fixed
01:10:781 (1) - remove NC Why? ;o
01:11:097 (2) - add NC and remove next NC And again,why?

Thanks for modding <3

619

409 posts

Joined May 2015

619 2016-10-26T14:43:34+00:00

Rumia- wrote:
[619]
00:06:991 (1) - it should end at previous red tick - ok fixed

NeBuSC2 wrote:
619's Normal:

00:06:991 (1) - 2long? should be red tick I think? - already fixed

Shiguma wrote:
619's Normal
As said earlier add the video - added

00:25:781 (3) - Should be a sound here I think - ok

Silynn wrote:
619's Normal
Imo, this map needs a lot of polishing. I would recommend the mapper to go through it carefully and make sure every object is placed exactly where they think it should be to look best. Flow is fine and rhythms are fine, so I'll just point out a few things as examples. Feel free to call back for a re-check on this diff if you try your best to tidy it up and I'll go a bit more in depth.
Here are the examples:
00:02:886 (2) - this slider should line up with the next one - already good for me
00:05:412 (3) - this note should line up with the previous slider - ok
00:08:886 (4) - I think this would like nicer as a curved slider blanketing the end of (3) - yea, maybe, why not?
00:15:044 (2) - this is just preference but this might look nicer curved the other way. play around with it. - ok
00:15:991 (3) - NC - fixed
If you agree with some of these, then do a self-check on the map for more things like this and just neaten it up a bit.

Thanks for the mods!

UPD

619

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domi1819

26 posts

Joined July 2014

domi1819 2016-10-26T17:45:56+00:00

Chat mod with Meep

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17:01 domi1819: hi
17:01 domi1819: overall the map plays pretty well
17:01 _Meep_: sup
17:02 _Meep_: Oh you played it?

17:02 domi1819: and i have nothing mayor to complain about
17:02 domi1819: *major
17:02 domi1819: i did
17:02 domi1819: sooo
17:03 _Meep_: Can you send the the screenshot of your results screen on the insane play?
17:03 _Meep_: if you played insane,that is
17:03 domi1819: eeeh later maybe
17:03 _Meep_: XD kk
17:03 _Meep_: I add all my testplayers into a list in the map
17:03 domi1819: (side note: i'm not a fan of perfectly overlapping objects)
17:04 domi1819: 00:04:781 (2) -
17:04 domi1819: this circle feels super weird
17:04 _Meep_: Yea,This part,no one knows how to map it :/
17:04 domi1819: move the circle to the left?
17:04 domi1819: so it's in the middle of the gap
17:05 _Meep_: Hmm
17:05 _Meep_: It wouldn't look good since the pause makes it so close and awkward
17:05 domi1819: what pause do you mean?
17:06 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6414422
17:06 _Meep_: 00:05:096 - this pause
17:06 _Meep_: Is the change I made ok? It kind of plays to the piano more
17:07 domi1819: i'd leave your selected circle on top of that slider
17:07 domi1819: since there is a pause
17:08 domi1819: so waiting a bit with the cursor makes sense
17:08 _Meep_: Hmm,ok then
17:08 _Meep_: Changed
17:09 domi1819: http://up.domi1819.xyz/u/463379/pm8cmpu ... 17-9-7.png
17:09 domi1819: that's how it looks good to me
17:11 domi1819: 00:57:202 (1,2,3,4) -
17:11 domi1819: when i first played the map
17:11 domi1819: i thought these notes didn't have a hitsound at all
17:11 _Meep_: ye
17:11 _Meep_: Hmm
17:12 domi1819: maybe try bumping the section volumes slightly? but i don't think it's too much of a problem
17:13 domi1819: just something i noticed
17:13 _Meep_: Hmm,got it,will keep it in mind
17:14 domi1819: 01:23:886 (2) -
17:15 domi1819: and i think this slider "hides" a pretty strong sound
17:16 _Meep_: I was mapping to the vocals
17:16 _Meep_: I can see why you said it
17:16 _Meep_: inbetween the sliders there was a very very loud piano sound
17:16 _Meep_: but i think that kind of camouflages into the song by itself
17:17 domi1819: http://up.domi1819.xyz/u/463379/uy03to9 ... -17-16.png
17:18 domi1819: what do you think about shortening that slider?
17:19 _Meep_: Nah
17:19 _Meep_: I was mapping to the vocals
17:19 _Meep_: gotta keep to it
17:21 domi1819: alright
17:21 domi1819: and a last thing
17:21 _Meep_: Ima update
17:21 _Meep_: see whether you like some changes
17:21 domi1819: why ar 9.1
17:21 _Meep_: uh
17:21 _Meep_: because no one liked AR 9.2
17:21 _Meep_: so im a troll
17:21 domi1819: it's not especially fast
17:21 domi1819: nor especially note-dense
17:21 _Meep_: Im like 'why not just put 9.1 instead of 9'
17:22 _Meep_: not like it makes any changes XD
17:22 _Meep_: in terms of gameplay
17:22 domi1819: it does to some extent
17:22 _Meep_: I updated
17:23 _Meep_: check out some stuff
17:23 _Meep_: 00:04:465 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
17:23 _Meep_: 00:19:623 (1,1,2,3,1) -
17:23 _Meep_: 00:20:886 (1) - This note is now in the centre to mirror the exact last note of this song
17:27 domi1819: nice
17:27 domi1819: one could argue that the od is too high for an relatively easy insane
17:27 _Meep_: It aint easy for some
17:27 _Meep_: Some people say its hard,some people say its easy XD
17:27 _Meep_: not too sure
17:27 domi1819: it's easy for the amount of stars it has
17:27 _Meep_: Well
17:27 domi1819: but don't change it
17:28 domi1819: i like high od
17:28 _Meep_: I wanted it to be 4.69
17:28 _Meep_: lol
17:28 domi1819: farm farm
17:29 _Meep_: lele
17:29 _Meep_: this map is unfarmable
17:29 _Meep_: since the hard has jumps lol
17:29 _Meep_: despite being 3.29*
17:30 domi1819: awww
17:30 _Meep_: Well thanks for checkin out my map <3
17:30 domi1819: insane is only 150 pp
17:30 _Meep_: awww wut ;o
17:30 _Meep_: lolwat
17:30 _Meep_: rip farm
17:31 domi1819: too bad
17:31 domi1819: :p
17:34 domi1819: lol
17:34 domi1819: i failed
17:34 _Meep_: wut
17:34 _Meep_: D:
17:35 domi1819: i was trying to get a good play
17:35 domi1819: and failed
17:35 domi1819: because i can
17:37 _Meep_: lele
17:37 _Meep_: its hard
17:37 domi1819: nah
17:37 domi1819: i just suck
17:37 domi1819: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6414632
17:37 domi1819: there we go
17:37 _Meep_: yay
17:38 domi1819: for whatever reason you need that
17:38 _Meep_: to put u in 'testplayers'
17:38 domi1819: yay
17:38 domi1819: i guess
17:39 domi1819: now map a longer version with more streams and od9
17:39 _Meep_: LOL
17:39 _Meep_: Maybe I should
17:39 domi1819: pls
17:39 domi1819: i want pp
17:40 _Meep_: well
17:40 domi1819:

17:40 _Meep_: after I make my ClariSxGarnidelia song
17:41 domi1819: nah i'm fine
17:41 domi1819: map whatever you like
17:42 _Meep_: https://puu.sh/rTZwd/f2ff0de054.osz
17:42 _Meep_: wip
17:42 domi1819: since that's kinda the point of mapping
17:42 _Meep_: dont care that its part of a guy's diff
17:42 _Meep_: #lazytomakehisown
17:45 domi1819: okay
17:46 domi1819: that pause at about 40 seconds
17:46 domi1819: feels really weird
17:47 _Meep_: Well
17:47 _Meep_: There is nothing to map ther
17:47 _Meep_: If i were to add anything at the white tick,it'd feel off
17:48 domi1819: http://up.domi1819.xyz/u/463379/x1hi9dl ... -48-22.png
17:48 domi1819: how about something like this
17:49 domi1819: you don't have to actively hit something at the white tick
17:49 _Meep_: Hmm
17:49 _Meep_: true
17:49 _Meep_: Will consider
17:52 domi1819: do you have any fast maps?
17:52 domi1819: like 210ish bpm
17:52 _Meep_: Well,no
17:52 _Meep_: I dont map fast songs
17:52 _Meep_: XD
17:52 domi1819: aww
17:52 domi1819: okay
17:57 domi1819: oh well
17:57 domi1819: would you like a kudosu star?
17:58 _Meep_: Hmm
17:58 _Meep_: yes

17:59 domi1819: alright
17:59 domi1819: i had one spare for a random chat mod and didn't even know where to put it
17:59 _Meep_: XD
17:59 _Meep_: thanks
18:01 domi1819: while i'm at it
18:01 domi1819: i'll take a look at the other diffs too
18:02 domi1819: if you don't mind
18:02 _Meep_: Sure
18:02 domi1819: hard:
18:02 domi1819: 00:46:781 (6,7,8) -
18:02 domi1819: this feels "undermapped"
18:03 _Meep_: Hmm
18:03 domi1819: like
18:03 domi1819: there should be 1/2 notes
18:03 _Meep_: Well,its a pretty slow part in terms of tunes
18:04 _Meep_: 00:45:991 (5,6,7,8) - The flow change here is a bit weird as well
18:04 domi1819: how about
18:04 domi1819: not repeating that slider
18:04 domi1819: but instead
18:04 domi1819: putting 1/2 notes
18:05 domi1819: or 1/2 sliders
18:05 _Meep_: Hmm,sounds weird tbh
18:05 domi1819: or
18:05 domi1819: make the slider land on the next white tick
18:05 domi1819: (without repeats)
18:07 domi1819: also
18:07 domi1819: same for 00:49:307 (5,6,7) -
18:07 _Meep_: ??
18:08 domi1819: i'm missing at least one note there
18:09 _Meep_: Its made so that it can be sightread pretty well
18:09 _Meep_: I dont map to the point where players have to 'predict' the next notes
18:11 domi1819: i'm not talking about the placement
18:11 _Meep_: then? ;o
18:11 _Meep_: 00:49:307 - If I were to map the 'violin-like' sounds,it'd be overmapped imo
18:12 _Meep_: only thing I can do is a 3/4 slider,a note or a few reverses
18:12 domi1819: try placing a note at 49:781 or turn the previous note into a slider
18:12 _Meep_: I empty that part to give 00:49:939 (7) - more emphasis
18:12 _Meep_: It sounds more distinct and clear
18:13 domi1819: 00:49:307 (5) -
18:13 domi1819: this is the same sound as
18:13 domi1819: 00:49:623 (6) -
18:13 domi1819: actually wait
18:14 domi1819: i might have messed up the comobs
18:14 _Meep_: XD
18:14 domi1819: 00:48:991 (4) - okay so there's this slider here
18:15 domi1819: which could be a note, the end is not really important
18:15 _Meep_: 00:47:728 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Mostly mapped to vocals
18:15 _Meep_: 00:49:939 (7) - I felt that the next slider would be lonely,so added this
18:15 _Meep_: #logic
18:15 _Meep_: XD
18:16 domi1819: 00:49:623 (6) - so why not turn this one into a slider
18:16 _Meep_: 00:49:939 (7) - This wouldn't have as much emphasis without a pause
18:17 domi1819: 00:49:307 (5) -
18:17 domi1819: but this is a slider!
18:17 domi1819: why is this a slider then?

18:17 _Meep_: Fits the violin+vocals real well
18:18 domi1819: a slider would also fit 00:49:623 (6) - for the same reasons
18:19 domi1819: if it's only for the sake of emphasis
18:19 _Meep_: D:
18:19 _Meep_: Hmm
18:19 _Meep_: I see your point
18:19 domi1819: then put the following note slightly more downwards
18:19 domi1819: instead of literally ignoring the sound
18:21 domi1819: well, it's up to you
18:21 domi1819: 00:45:991 (5,6,7,8) - so, about that
18:21 _Meep_: Changed it
18:23 _Meep_: Not gona change it tho
18:23 domi1819: http://up.domi1819.xyz/u/463379/19xt9os ... -22-56.png
18:23 _Meep_: this
18:24 domi1819: i just think that the reverse slider doesn't fit at all
18:24 _Meep_: Hmm,the reverse slider kind of plays how 'deep' the drums go
18:24 _Meep_: idk how to explain
18:25 domi1819: i know what you mean
18:25 domi1819: but i think the other sounds overpower the base
18:25 domi1819: or whatever that is
18:26 _Meep_: HMm
18:26 domi1819: have you looked at the screenshot?
18:27 domi1819: (ignore the placement, it's just about the rythm)
18:27 _Meep_: Yea
18:27 _Meep_: I dont exactly dislike the rhythm
18:27 _Meep_: But I feel like I want to stick with the current one
18:32 _Meep_: Wanna mutual?
18:32 _Meep_: x3
18:32 domi1819: i thought i had already added you
18:32 _Meep_: XD
18:32 domi1819: well
18:32 domi1819: i did
18:32 _Meep_: I never added you XD
18:32 _Meep_: well I just did
18:35 domi1819: 01:22:465 (3) -
18:35 domi1819: this triggers me slightly
18:35 domi1819: since
18:36 _Meep_: should I make it a 3/4 and put a note on the big tick?
18:36 domi1819: the previous 2 sliders are mapped to the piano
18:36 domi1819: ...
18:36 domi1819: well
18:36 domi1819: idk
18:37 domi1819: starting from 1:22.781
18:37 domi1819: there are 4 strong piano sounds
18:37 domi1819: like the ones prior to that slider i marked
18:38 domi1819: what i have right now
18:38 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6415024
18:38 domi1819: is five 1/2 sliders
18:38 _Meep_: My timeline is on the big white tick
18:39 domi1819: yes
18:39 domi1819: this works great
18:40 domi1819: don't know what other folks might say about 3/4 sliders on hard though
18:40 _Meep_: XD
18:40 _Meep_: Yea
18:41 domi1819: i guess that's it for the hard
18:41 _Meep_: yay
18:41 domi1819: but ar8 for 3.2 stars?
18:41 domi1819: well
18:41 _Meep_: Lol
18:42 domi1819: i haven't played some hards in a while
18:42 _Meep_: Its pretty easy
18:42 _Meep_: so meh :/
18:42 domi1819: i know
18:42 domi1819: it *could* be 7.5ish
18:42 _Meep_: meh
18:42 domi1819: but eeeh whatever
18:42 _Meep_: who needs to give players leniency
18:42 _Meep_: XD
18:42 _Meep_: helps them get used to the AR anyway
18:44 domi1819: and it kinda compliments the bpm for dt

18:44 _Meep_: Well
18:44 _Meep_: jumps are hard in dt.. .-.
18:44 _Meep_: I was a hddt player
18:45 domi1819: your overall acc doesn't even look like dt farming
18:45 _Meep_: uh
18:45 _Meep_: thats thanks to my shitacc in both touchscreen and normal plays
18:45 _Meep_: lol
18:46 domi1819: i see
18:46 domi1819: your top scores
18:46 domi1819: wow
18:46 _Meep_: 252 was touchscreen
18:46 _Meep_: 234 was mouse
18:46 _Meep_: or was it 232
18:46 _Meep_: cant rmb
18:47 domi1819: i'm pretty thankful for having somewhat decent acc
18:48 domi1819: but boy i can't hit anything with my aiming skill
18:51 domi1819: more things to complain about
18:51 domi1819: yay
18:51 domi1819: 00:38:570 (2) -
18:51 domi1819: on easy
18:52 _Meep_: XD
18:52 _Meep_: ye
18:52 _Meep_: wat abt it
18:52 domi1819: that slider
18:52 domi1819: what
18:52 _Meep_: It fits the song,despite it being a 3/4 repeat
18:54 domi1819: okay
18:54 domi1819: if you say so
18:54 _Meep_: I asked quite a number of noobs
18:54 _Meep_: none of them had real problems with it
18:55 domi1819: i'm not saying that it will cause trouble
18:55 _Meep_: ??
18:55 domi1819: it just sounds off
18:55 _Meep_: As in rhythm wise
18:55 _Meep_: None of em really said much abt it
18:55 domi1819: i'm not complaining about any of the other 3/4 repeat sliders
18:55 *_Meep_ is watching [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100514 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT [Insane]] +Hidden +DoubleTime
18:55 _Meep_: lol
18:56 _Meep_: Well,most of ther 3/4 sliders are all repeats in easy
18:56 _Meep_: or all of them
18:56 domi1819: i know
18:56 domi1819: they all sound more or less fine
18:56 domi1819: imo
18:56 _Meep_: XD
18:58 domi1819: http://up.domi1819.xyz/u/463379/ljpzcgt ... -57-32.png
19:23 domi1819: how about posting this "mod" to the forum?
19:23 _Meep_: go ahead
19:23 _Meep_: xd

Contains a fair bit of noise, too lazy to remove, sorry :'c

@Nowa
Not much to complain about

00:21:360 (2) - should only be 3 repeats on 1/4. Currently, hitting 40 ms late causes a slider break despite the OD allowing that to be a 100. Also, there are only three tick sounds in the audio.
01:11:412 (1) (also 01:22:781 (1)) - are touching the previous slider while all other sliders after a 3/4 one are not. Intentional?
01:17:412 (1) - I see you are gradually increasing spacing on that stream but that last note (slider) is unproportionally far away and I don't notice anything in the song that justifies it (also the next slider is like super close).

zev

462 posts

Joined September 2015

zev 2016-10-26T18:56:54+00:00

queue,
Hello, meep.

why normal-hitnormals ;_;
why overmap triples ;_;

[Insane]

00:05:254 (4) - can you unstack these like the 1/1 gap of 00:04:149 (3,1) - for consisteny?

00:13:781 (2) - dq this slider

00:15:833 (6) - you are missing an entire drum here on a downbeat.

00:19:623 (1,1,2,3) - I don't know whats going on but this is severely undermapped.

00:26:570 (2) - make it parrelel with 00:25:939 (1) -

00:41:412 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - remap this its bad.

00:43:781 (1,2,3,4) - doesn't fit use triangles.

00:44:254 (4) - why is there a whistle here

00:51:675 (2,4) - try not to overlap when you have the chance.

01:07:939 (2,4) - overlaps

01:14:886 (2,3,4,5,1) - angle into the stream is way to sharp

01:30:360 (1) - nice

info

try to spread out objects evenly apart, spacing aesthetics my dude

[Nowa's Flower]

00:01:939 (1) - would place this in the middle so the start plays less rough

00:15:675 (6) - I would just go with a slider to differentiate the piano with the trumpet sound or whatever its called and choose a different angle, please.

00:21:360 (2) - no, these should just be clickable, make it a triple

00:29:728 (1) - spacing aesthetics is off

00:30:044 (2,3) - resnap the stack

00:30:991 (5) - please don't overmap on important parts, there's no point making a click here. make a 1/1 slider

00:40:781 (3,5) - try not to overlap when you have the chance.
00:46:149 (2,2) - ^
00:54:675 (5,3) - ^
00:58:623 (6,1) - there are two things so awkward/off in this section, the slider should be on (6) that's where vocals tend to change not on the downbeat,
and the flow goes a bit to inwards, try pointing sliders in the direction towards next circles for this part or somth
01:00:991 (4) - flow is a bit to linear due straight shape would curve
01:13:307 (1,1) - spacing aesthetics is off

01:16:623 (2,1) - nerf this jump, the stream will play smoother

01:17:175 (2) - not alligned

info:

try listening to the song more when cycling with sliders and circles,
instead of overmapping you should make inaudible sounds end on sliderends, it feels weird clicking something you can't hear unless it really fits

k, good luck with tht map,

oh and remap the easy diff, it uses way to different spacing variables, you can only use constant spacing, and those gaps are not readable,

havfun eeeeee

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-10-26T21:35:03+00:00

domi1819 wrote:
@Nowa
Not much to complain about
00:21:360 (2) - should only be 3 repeats on 1/4. Currently, hitting 40 ms late causes a slider break despite the OD allowing that to be a 100. Also, there are only three tick sounds in the audio. Yeah i know that it's supposed to be like that though is it the best possible way to represent the sound? As the volume of the slider is so low (so it would work with the low volume drum hits) but it actually sort of blends into the sound in the song. If you listen to the part in 100% (with the 1/8 slider) you really can't tell the difference between the actual ticks and the filled up ticks so technically it sounds like there are 5 ticks. As i don't see this as an unrankable problem nor a suggestion that would drasticly improve the maps' quality it's not really something i'd want to change. I will strongly re consider this if it's brought up by someone else
01:11:412 (1) (also 01:22:781 (1)) - are touching the previous slider while all other sliders after a 3/4 one are not. Intentional? Not intentional, i'll most likely increase the DS as i don't have any reason to have them touching the other sliders
01:17:412 (1) - I see you are gradually increasing spacing on that stream but that last note (slider) is unproportionally far away and I don't notice anything in the song that justifies it (also the next slider is like super close). You already noted out the reason i have the sliders like this which is the fact i'm "gradually increasing the spacing". Which can be seen over these patterns 01:16:781 (1,2,3,4) - 01:17:096 (1,2,3,4) - 01:17:412 (1,2) - ( 0.6x -> 1.0x -> 1.45x ) which is technically near perfectly done right now. For the thing with the next slider is that it's placed wrongly for that DS as the correct place would be that the slidertail is blanketed with the 1 and the head is flipped to the left side instead of the right that it's on right now. Doing this will (hopefully) fix the issue

zev wrote:
[Nowa's Flower]
00:01:939 (1) - would place this in the middle so the start plays less rough It should be just fine like it is...

00:15:675 (6) - I would just go with a slider to differentiate the piano with the trumpet sound or whatever its called and choose a different angle, please. As i already have mapped the other piano beats as notes 00:15:044 (2,4) - (and the bass drum aswell) and i have already emphasized the stronger beat with larger spacing to and from that note

00:21:360 (2) - no, these should just be clickable, make it a triple No

00:29:728 (1) - spacing aesthetics is off Where should it be then :S i'm kinda shite with stuff like this

00:30:044 (2,3) - resnap the stack Done

00:30:991 (5) - please don't overmap on important parts, there's no point making a click here. make a 1/1 slider It's mapped to the initial "ma" sound and the other following notes are mapped to the piano. Having it as a 1/1 slider when there are beats that can be mapped is pretty bad thing overall

00:40:781 (3,5) - try not to overlap when you have the chance. It's not visible overlapping, doesn't matter
00:46:149 (2,2) - ^ These aren't even overlapped
00:54:675 (5,3) - ^ Not visible again
00:58:623 (6,1) - there are two things so awkward/off in this section, the slider should be on (6) that's where vocals tend to change not on the downbeat,
and the flow goes a bit to inwards, try pointing sliders in the direction towards next circles for this part or somth

1. I do know that the new vocal line starts on the 6 but the singer "bumps up" the I -sound on the downbeat which works perfectly as the slider currently follows the notable downbeat AND the vocal sound "bump up"

2. I'm not 100% sure what are you trying to adress here. The flow for 00:58:623 (6,1) - or 00:58:781 (1,2) - ?

I'm assuming that you mean 1|2 so here we go. This is what we call snapped flow. 00:58:781 (1) - As the players play the slider they slow down towards the end and the most logical way out would be the to have the next object in the opposite direction than the movement during/when transitioning to the previous object. If you meant something else, i'm sorry for misunderstanding you but could you open your point a bit more to me?

01:00:991 (4) - flow is a bit to linear due straight shape would curve Totally agree, done

01:13:307 (1,1) - spacing aesthetics is off Even though i don't know about spacing aesthetics that much i don't think there is anything wrong with the spike pattern

01:16:623 (2,1) - nerf this jump, the stream will play smoother The whole song is on it's pinnacle there pretty much so no thanks

01:17:175 (2) - not alligned The streams were done with CTRL + Shift + F. There should be no issues whatsoever

info:
try listening to the song more when cycling with sliders and circles Take personal preferences into the count : ) like for example what the mapper is trying to follow when and where
instead of overmapping you should make inaudible sounds end on sliderends, it feels weird clicking something you can't hear unless it really fits ^

Thanks for moderinos~

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_Meep_

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Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-27T05:40:19+00:00

zev wrote:
queue,

oh and remap the easy diff, it uses way to different spacing variables, you can only use constant spacing, and those gaps are not readable,

I've asked quite some players well over 100k to 300k rank to help testplay thr easy mode,and it seems that they do not have a problem with the rhythm nor the gaps. The gaps are needed, since when a being a beginner, They will always click faster and more when a note is closer to the note they just clicked. It's more of a newbie's reaction to notes because they haven't adjusted themselves to timing yet. The gaps are for them to move accordingly so that they do not tap too quickly and they will be able to adjust to the timing and BPM correctly. I asked some newbies on how they normally felt when a note is too close,some said that it was because its close,thats why it's hard to play. I took that context and therefore made my easy mode a bit different,in terms of distance between notes, Newbies would instantly click a note as soon as it appears,as you see with many newbies if you actually spectate them.

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zev

462 posts

Joined September 2015

zev 2016-10-27T13:54:36+00:00

@DTM9 Nowa
okay you asked in your mod for more clarification.

00:15:675 (6) - I would just go with a slider to differentiate the piano with the trumpet sound or whatever its called and choose a different angle, please. As i already have mapped the other piano beats as notes 00:15:044 (2,4) - (and the bass drum aswell) and i have already emphasized the stronger beat with larger spacing to and from that note your spacing emphasize on 00:15:675 (6) - felt kinda weak though, since (5) is a drum with same spacing but that beat has less intensity. don't you think it loses the emphasize cause of that?

00:30:991 (5) - please don't overmap on important parts, there's no point making a click here. make a 1/1 slider It's mapped to the initial "ma" sound and the other following notes are mapped to the piano. Having it as a 1/1 slider when there are beats that can be mapped is pretty bad thing overall the vocal syllable feels rather weak compared to the piano tbh , i wouldn't put these in the same category of the piano, why follow both?
i would buff 00:31:149 (2) - to show you are jumping to the piano, if you want to do that.

00:58:623 (6,1) - there are two things so awkward/off in this section, the slider should be on (6) that's where vocals tend to change not on the downbeat,
and the flow goes a bit to inwards, try pointing sliders in the direction towards next circles for this part or somth

1. I do know that the new vocal line starts on the 6 but the singer "bumps up" the I -sound on the downbeat which works perfectly as the slider currently follows the notable downbeat AND the vocal sound "bump up" the (1,2) is fine its just( 6,1) plays like jdivnddva, mainly cause you are ignoring the kick in the vocals at 00:58:623 (6) - for something less noticeable in the song, but ok.

2. I'm not 100% sure what are you trying to adress here. The flow for 00:58:623 (6,1) - or 00:58:781 (1,2) - ? ^

01:13:307 (1,1) - spacing aesthetics is off Even though i don't know about spacing aesthetics that muchi don't think there is anything wrong with the spike pattern i'm not talking about the spike, in this case with spacing aesthetics, I'm referring to the gap between objects.It would look more visually appealing if you
ordered them with no overlaps and some more attention to how wide the gaps are from each other heres an example while still keeping your current placement,

info:

try listening to the song more when cycling with sliders and circles Take personal preferences into the count : ) like for example what the mapper is trying to follow when and where thank your for your feedback, i couldn't see what you where trying to follow

gl hope its enuff clarification

@meep yebut threre ar some minor spacing inconsistentcies wud chek on that still tbh, its very unussuall

_Meep_

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Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-27T18:37:34+00:00

zev wrote:
queue,
Hello, meep.

why normal-hitnormals ;_;
why overmap triples ;_;

[Insane]
[notice]00:05:254 (4) - can you unstack these like the 1/1 gap of 00:04:149 (3,1) - for consisteny? Fixed

00:13:781 (2) - dq this slider Why? It plays the deep drum beat well

00:15:833 (6) - you are missing an entire drum here on a downbeat. Mapping to violin-like thingy

00:19:623 (1,1,2,3) - I don't know whats going on but this is severely undermapped. Why is it undermapped? I'm not going to make this some free pp map

00:26:570 (2) - make it parrelel with 00:25:939 (1) - Fixed

00:41:412 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - remap this its bad. How so?

00:43:781 (1,2,3,4) - doesn't fit use triangles.No thanks,I feel that this fits pretty well

00:44:254 (4) - why is there a whistle here Fixed

00:51:675 (2,4) - try not to overlap when you have the chance. Fixed

01:07:939 (2,4) - overlaps I'm not sure what you're looking at but those two don't overlap at all

01:14:886 (2,3,4,5,1) - angle into the stream is way to sharp Fixed

01:30:360 (1) - nice Thanks

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Nowaie

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Nowaie 2016-10-27T18:48:16+00:00

zev wrote:
@DTM9 Nowa
okay you asked in your mod for more clarification.

00:15:675 (6) - I would just go with a slider to differentiate the piano with the trumpet sound or whatever its called and choose a different angle, please. As i already have mapped the other piano beats as notes 00:15:044 (2,4) - (and the bass drum aswell) and i have already emphasized the stronger beat with larger spacing to and from that note your spacing emphasize on 00:15:675 (6) - felt kinda weak though, since (5) is a drum with same spacing but that beat has less intensity. don't you think it loses the emphasize cause of that?

Alright. If that is the point you are going after i'd say that this 00:15:675 (6,1) - would be more questionable than the 5|6 as that would be way too much which is something i will most likely fix. But for the 5|6 i'm not that sure does it even matter. I have done similiar stylish choices before like here 00:14:254 (4,5) - and even here 00:15:044 (2,3,4) - . I do understand bit better what do you mean but i still don't agree compeletely. If this gets noted out later on (With a good reason like yours) i will make sure to change it by a little bit atleast

00:30:991 (5) - please don't overmap on important parts, there's no point making a click here. make a 1/1 slider It's mapped to the initial "ma" sound and the other following notes are mapped to the piano. Having it as a 1/1 slider when there are beats that can be mapped is pretty bad thing overall the vocal syllable feels rather weak compared to the piano tbh , i wouldn't put these in the same category of the piano, why follow both?
i would buff 00:31:149 (2) - to show you are jumping to the piano, if you want to do that.

Well the simple reason to have that mapped as a clickable is that i have mainly for this whole part 00:22:465 - 00:30:833 - followed the vocals and i planned to follow them all the way until this point 00:41:096 - . Which just means that it's logical to map that note as a clickable. As for your concern that you wouldn't put the vocals into the same "category" as the piano is, you are absolutely correct. Atleast for this note 00:31:149 - the piano should be in a lower "category" than the vocals as it's nearly unnoticeable (The clear stronger piano beats start from here 00:31:307 - ). <- Also this is the reason i don't want to buff the 2. I will change the 1 to a 1/2 slider to represent the vocals i'm trying to follow and still have the less noticeable piano note mapped.

00:58:623 (6,1) - there are two things so awkward/off in this section, the slider should be on (6) that's where vocals tend to change not on the downbeat,
and the flow goes a bit to inwards, try pointing sliders in the direction towards next circles for this part or somth

1. I do know that the new vocal line starts on the 6 but the singer "bumps up" the I -sound on the downbeat which works perfectly as the slider currently follows the notable downbeat AND the vocal sound "bump up" the (1,2) is fine its just( 6,1) plays like jdivnddva, mainly cause you are ignoring the kick in the vocals at 00:58:623 (6) - for something less noticeable in the song, but ok.

Alright. Lets take this note 00:58:465 (5) - into closer inspection. It's a hitcircle mapped on a strong hold sound which technically ends on 6 so having the slider start from the 6 would make the hold sound of 5 ignored making it impossible to place a slider on the 6. So that is why you can't place the slider on 6 though it's a possibility to have these 00:58:465 (5,6) - two mapped as a single slider because i have mapped here 01:00:991 (4,1) - similarly

01:13:307 (1,1) - spacing aesthetics is off Even though i don't know about spacing aesthetics that muchi don't think there is anything wrong with the spike pattern i'm not talking about the spike, in this case with spacing aesthetics, I'm referring to the gap between objects.It would look more visually appealing if you
ordered them with no overlaps and some more attention to how wide the gaps are from each other heres an example while still keeping your current placement,

Alright, will fix

gl hope its enuff clarification

More than enough, thanks!

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Shunao

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Joined February 2016

Shunao 2016-10-27T20:06:57+00:00

Hi!
M4M from my Queue~

[Easy]

Check DS
00:18:360 (2,3) - Blanket this
00:22:781 (1) - You can transform it in slider, it's sound good.
00:24:675 - Add a note, I hear a strong beat (this is important the big tick on Easy diff)
00:26:570 (2) - Try something like this because there is a strong beat so you can't forget it.
00:30:675 (4,1) - Try to make a overlap.
00:57:517 (1) - Remove this note and put a slider until 00:57:833 like that it fills the space which it had when you had put a circle and it's better as for Easy.
00:59:728 - Add a note
01:00:044 (6) - Remove this note and put a slider until 01:00:360 this is better, I find.
01:02:254 - Add a note for the consistence
01:16:307 (6) - You can map after this note on the instruments
You need to mapping on the instrumentens to because if you don't, this is just on the vocals and we can't hear the voice, some moment we hear instrumentals but we have no notes like here 00:04:781 - 00:07:307 - 00:10:149 - 00:34:781- 01:20:570 - 01:23:096 and more..
And from here 00:22:781 the music is calm so the volume should be 30%

[619's Normal]

00:15:991 - The chain is too long, try to give a 1/1 pause somewhere.
00:22:149 - Like I said on the Easy diff, here the music is calm so the volume should be 30%
00:12:675 (2) - Why you not curved this slider, it's should be better and consistent with 00:14:570 (1)
01:21:833 - You forgot to put a note we hear a beat.

[Hard]

Check AiMod
00:30:991 (3) - Why on the end of the slider there is this
00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You don't think this is too difficult for the hard player lol, so me I suggest to try this
01:11:412 (3,4,5,6) - The spacing of this notes are too big try with DS 1.6
01:30:360 (1,1,1) - Lol, why you make this notes?

That's all for me! (Sorry I can't mod Insane and Extra diff for the moment)
GOOD LUCK!

619

409 posts

Joined May 2015

619 2016-10-28T08:11:26+00:00

ShogunMoon wrote:
[619's Normal]
00:15:991 - The chain is too long, try to give a 1/1 pause somewhere. - but then i miss a very important sound
00:22:149 - Like I said on the Easy diff, here the music is calm so the volume should be 30% - yea, fixed
00:12:675 (2) - Why you not curved this slider, it's should be better and consistent with 00:14:570 (1) - ok
01:21:833 - You forgot to put a note we hear a beat. - fixed

Thanks for mod!

UPD

619

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Version:619's Normal
Source:Re:LieF ～親愛なるあなたへ～
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_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-29T07:50:50+00:00

ShogunMoon wrote:
Hi!
M4M from my Queue~

[Easy]
Check DS
00:18:360 (2,3) - Blanket this Fixed
00:22:781 (1) - You can transform it in slider, it's sound good. I can't see how it sounds gud,sowee ;-;
00:24:675 - Add a note, I hear a strong beat (this is important the big tick on Easy diff) Vocals
00:26:570 (2) - Try something like this because there is a strong beat so you can't forget it.
00:30:675 (4,1) - Try to make a overlap. Fixed
00:57:517 (1) - Remove this note and put a slider until 00:57:833 like that it fills the space which it had when you had put a circle and it's better as for Easy. I doubt that it'd be easier,making notes closer would mean chaos and confusion for easy players,therefore adding sliders is a no
00:59:728 - Add a note I don't think it's needed to map ALL the piano notes, it would feel like I expect the player to know that the note should be there,and that he should know that there are more piano notes afterwards,which is expecting too much from them.
01:00:044 (6) - Remove this note and put a slider until 01:00:360 this is better, I find.Like I said above, Mapping more sliders is a no,making it simplistic and easy to read is what I like
01:02:254 - Add a note for the consistence Copying the pause 00:59:728 -
01:16:307 (6) - You can map after this note on the instruments Not exactlysure on what you're going for
You need to mapping on the instrumentens to because if you don't, this is just on the vocals and we can't hear the voice, some moment we hear instrumentals but we have no notes like here 00:04:781 - 00:07:307 - 00:10:149 - 00:34:781- 01:20:570 - 01:23:096 and more..
And from here 00:22:781 the music is calm so the volume should be 30% Fixed

[Hard]
Check AiMod Fixed
00:30:991 (3) - Why on the end of the slider there is this Fixed
00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You don't think this is too difficult for the hard player lol, so me I suggest to try this It's hard,thats why I like it <3
01:11:412 (3,4,5,6) - The spacing of this notes are too big try with DS 1.6 Fixed with DS 1.5
01:30:360 (1,1,1) - Lol, why you make this notes? Re:LieF's logo,as you can see in the video and the offical website.
That's all for me! (Sorry I can't mod Insane and Extra diff for the moment)
GOOD LUCK!

Thanks for moddin'!

Net0

1,238 posts

Joined October 2014

Net0 2016-10-29T14:54:05+00:00

[General]

Tags Add; op Re:LieF~DeaR YoU~
The correct artist name should be 紫咲ほたるand romanized as Hotaru Murasaki, here’s the official link:
http://taruhoi.info/about
The metadata is mostly correct but it will be really helpful if you add the official websites so BNs can check easily;
http://rask-soft.com/product/first/product/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJhlf6Sm2y4
The background image you’re using is in the correct size but for some reason it is quite big file; currently 790 kb. This is optional but I have edited your background and now I’ll give you 2 options:
Compressed bg with no edition; http://puu.sh/rZxi9.jpg
Edited with the girl face more clear; http://puu.sh/rZxp5.jpg
I like this result because the entire background is mainly blurred and having her face more clear will lead people to look at her first.
Missing hitsounding on easy/hard.

[

Easy]

Whenever it’s possible to keep distance snap in the easier diffs 00:04:465 (1,2) – keep it, it’s probably the safe choice when mapping this diff range.
^00:06:991 (1) – this one is pretty easy to fix, just move it to x:416 y:252
^00:14:570 (1) – in this case distance went to 1,61x, try moving 00:16:149 (2) – to x:444 y:278 and rotate it “-40º” to improve flow.
Improve distance here 00:40:781 (2) – move it to x:167 y:243
Distance here 00:58:149 (2) - went up to 1,59x, move 00:58:465 (3) – to x: 313 y:26 and 00:58:781 (4) – to x:227 y:54
Another case of lowering distace 01:15:991 (2,1) –
^01:26:570 (4,1) –
This deserves a hitsound 00:12:044 (1) - . This is like one of the most important beats of the music and currently it doesn’t have any hitsounds. Actually, the entire diff is not using finishes, claps or whistles, just hitnormals from different sample sets. You’ll have to hitsound this to improve gameplay experience as well as being able to move foward into ranking.
I agree with the vocal mapping. Only one weird thing I’ve noticed is that this vocal here 00:43:623 (3) – is rather continuous and you’ve mapped it as a circle followed by a reverse slider 00:43:939 (4) – that isn’t following the vocals. The rhythm here is pretty hard for an easy diff and I recommend you think again about what to do here. My suggestion is that you change this 00:43:623 (3) – into a 2/1 slider to follow vocals.

[

619’s Normal]

Hello 619, how’s Stay Alive doing?
00:13:781 (5,1) – This blanket can be improve with a bit of work. Let me show you the result and then explain how to do it: http://puu.sh/rZyRY.jpg . First move this 00:13:781 (5) – to x:291 y:145 . The middle anchor x:348 y:116 and sliderend x:377 y:31 . You will have to move the other two as well. 00:14:570 (1) – goes to x:277 y:44 and 00:15:044 (2) – to x:177 y:135
I believe your creating density too early in the difficulty. Take a look at this patterns; 00:15:991 (1,2,3,4) - / 00:18:202 (4,1,2,3,4) – and this one 00:41:254 (4,5,6,7) – the mapping is not incorrect, your following the piano. But compare them with the most intense part of the music 01:12:517 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) -. You see they’re as strong as this last pattern mentioned or even more dense. This is my opinion tho. As I’ve mentioned the mapping is not incorrect.
Personally I think you can give emphasis to this vocal here 01:16:307 - ~ 01:16:939 - . I’d map a circle here 01:16:149 – and make a slider to the vocal following the red ticks and add a circle here 01:17:096 -, something like this: http://puu.sh/rZzxe.jpg

[

Hard]

I believe this is Insane level of difficulty 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - . Probably the best idea is to go with full 1/2stacks here. But to keep it at a small modification I’d recommend you at least stack this 00:55:623 (5,6) – and let only this 00:55:939 (7,8) – be the only spaced out 1/2. I’ve reworked this pattern and I’ll show you a few possibilities:
1) 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - http://puu.sh/rZA3H.jpg
2) http://puu.sh/rZA5Z.jpg
3) 00:55:307 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - http://puu.sh/rZA8q.jpg
If you want to keep combos like this 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I recommend you NC this 01:06:991 (1) – for a better visual

I’ll mod this diffs because you already got plenty of feedback on Insane and Nowa’s Flower. It’s a great song and to be honest I’m really interested in this visual novel. Good luck with this mapset.

_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

_Meep_ 2016-10-29T22:08:23+00:00

Net0 wrote:
[General]
Tags Add; op Re:LieF~DeaR YoU~
The correct artist name should be 紫咲ほたるand romanized as Hotaru Murasaki, here’s the official link:
http://taruhoi.info/about
The metadata is mostly correct but it will be really helpful if you add the official websites so BNs can check easily;
http://rask-soft.com/product/first/product/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJhlf6Sm2y4

The background image you’re using is in the correct size but for some reason it is quite big file; currently 790 kb. This is optional but I have edited your background and now I’ll give you 2 options:
Compressed bg with no edition; http://puu.sh/rZxi9.jpg
Edited with the girl face more clear; http://puu.sh/rZxp5.jpg
I like this result because the entire background is mainly blurred and having her face more clear will lead people to look at her first.
Missing hitsounding on easy/hard.

[Easy]
Whenever it’s possible to keep distance snap in the easier diffs 00:04:465 (1,2) – keep it, it’s probably the safe choice when mapping this diff range.
^00:06:991 (1) – this one is pretty easy to fix, just move it to x:416 y:252
^00:14:570 (1) – in this case distance went to 1,61x, try moving 00:16:149 (2) – to x:444 y:278 and rotate it “-40º” to improve flow.
Improve distance here 00:40:781 (2) – move it to x:167 y:243
Distance here 00:58:149 (2) - went up to 1,59x, move 00:58:465 (3) – to x: 313 y:26 and 00:58:781 (4) – to x:227 y:54
Another case of lowering distace 01:15:991 (2,1) –
^01:26:570 (4,1) –
This deserves a hitsound 00:12:044 (1) - . This is like one of the most important beats of the music and currently it doesn’t have any hitsounds. Actually, the entire diff is not using finishes, claps or whistles, just hitnormals from different sample sets. You’ll have to hitsound this to improve gameplay experience as well as being able to move foward into ranking.
I agree with the vocal mapping. Only one weird thing I’ve noticed is that this vocal here 00:43:623 (3) – is rather continuous and you’ve mapped it as a circle followed by a reverse slider 00:43:939 (4) – that isn’t following the vocals. The rhythm here is pretty hard for an easy diff and I recommend you think again about what to do here. My suggestion is that you change this 00:43:623 (3) – into a 2/1 slider to follow vocals.

[619’s Normal]

I'm having second thoughts on mapping an easy GD,considering that my experience only lies within hard-insane range. I can't seem to ever visualize this difficulty getting ranked no matter what,despite my efforts on trying to say that its playability compensates for the lack of consistency in notes and patterns, One of my friends is trying to GD this at the moment. Therefore, I thank you for helpiing to mod this difficulty even though it is going to be removed. I'll tell him to take your points into account. Then again,I'm sorry.

[notice][Hard]
I believe this is Insane level of difficulty 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - . Probably the best idea is to go with full 1/2stacks here. But to keep it at a small modification I’d recommend you at least stack this 00:55:623 (5,6) – and let only this 00:55:939 (7,8) – be the only spaced out 1/2. I’ve reworked this pattern and I’ll show you a few possibilities:
1) 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - http://puu.sh/rZA3H.jpg
2) http://puu.sh/rZA5Z.jpg
3) 00:55:307 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - http://puu.sh/rZA8q.jpg
Instead I stacked 7,8 to keep the contrast from the jumps,since they were pretty close anyway. Fixed the NC
If you want to keep combos like this 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I recommend you NC this 01:06:991 (1) – for a better visual
I’ll mod this diffs because you already got plenty of feedback on Insane and Nowa’s Flower. It’s a great song and to be honest I’m really interested in this visual novel. Good luck with this mapset.

Thanks for modding <3

619

409 posts

Joined May 2015

619 2016-10-29T23:44:09+00:00

_Meep_ wrote:
619’s Normal

I'm having second thoughts on mapping an easy GD,considering that my experience only lies within hard-insane range. I can't seem to ever visualize this difficulty getting ranked no matter what,despite my efforts on trying to say that its playability compensates for the lack of consistency in notes and patterns, One of my friends is trying to GD this at the moment. Therefore, I thank you for helpiing to mod this difficulty even though it is going to be removed. I'll tell him to take your points into account. Then again,I'm sorry.

619 wrote:
P.S. Feel free to delete, if u dont like this

ok gl

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2016-10-30T03:12:31+00:00

619 wrote:
_Meep_ wrote:
619’s Normal

I'm having second thoughts on mapping an easy GD,considering that my experience only lies within hard-insane range. I can't seem to ever visualize this difficulty getting ranked no matter what,despite my efforts on trying to say that its playability compensates for the lack of consistency in notes and patterns, One of my friends is trying to GD this at the moment. Therefore, I thank you for helpiing to mod this difficulty even though it is going to be removed. I'll tell him to take your points into account. Then again,I'm sorry.
619 wrote:
P.S. Feel free to delete, if u dont like this

ok gl

wait what i didn't read this, did you just kick him off set to put my easy diff on? o shit i feel bad now lo sorry mr 619

anyway here's the thing

lol i left you a secret note xd oh yeah also feel free to change the diff name hahaha

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74,299,72991,5,8,0:0:0:0:
39,215,73307,2,0,L|32:145,1,70,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
24,54,73939,5,8,0:0:0:0:
106,92,74254,2,0,P|145:96|182:92,1,70,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
259,55,74886,1,8,0:0:0:0:
250,145,75202,6,0,P|315:195|337:104,1,210,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
301,74,76307,5,4,3:0:0:0:
436,56,76781,2,0,P|452:89|459:137,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
447,211,77412,2,0,P|418:253|393:275,1,70,0|4,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
325,311,78044,5,0,0:0:0:0:
280,322,78202,2,0,P|290:278|279:214,1,105
216,154,78991,6,0,P|245:169|219:88,1,210
139,104,80254,5,0,0:0:0:0:
134,194,80570,1,0,0:0:0:0:
129,239,80728,2,0,P|80:221|19:242,1,105
75,312,81517,6,0,P|164:323|216:215,1,210
178,147,82781,2,0,P|238:160|315:145,1,140
393,101,83728,1,0,0:0:0:0:
428,72,83886,6,0,P|422:130|430:185,1,105
342,208,84675,2,0,P|361:241|395:263,1,70
418,345,85307,6,0,P|451:326|473:292,1,70
464,208,85939,1,0,0:0:0:0:
386,259,86254,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,277,86412,6,0,B|269:316|242:251|164:295,1,175
94,334,87517,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,242,87833,6,0,P|53:204|43:264,1,140
94,334,88781,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,351,88939,6,0,B|213:373|234:331|320:354,1,175
398,369,90044,1,0,0:0:0:0:
369,284,90360,6,0,B|369:252|377:226|377:226|398:213|428:201|428:201|398:190|377:175|377:175|370:152|368:118|368:118|349:141|328:159|328:159|303:158|271:149|271:149|289:179|298:201|298:201|288:227|271:252|271:252|302:242|328:242|328:242|344:253|360:270,1,560,0|4,0:0|0:1,0:0:0:0:
210,29,94702,2,4,L|314:29,1,105,4|4,3:1|3:1,3:1:0:0:
269,70,94702,2,4,L|269:146,1,70,4|4,3:1|3:1,3:1:0:0:
449,77,94702,2,4,L|449:169,1,87.5,4|4,3:1|3:1,3:1:0:0:
214,168,94702,2,4,L|318:168,1,105,4|4,3:1|3:1,3:1:0:0:
0,28,94702,2,4,L|134:28,1,122.5,4|4,3:1|3:1,3:1:0:0:
512,28,94702,2,4,L|378:28,1,122.5,4|4,3:1|3:1,3:1:0:0:
240,256,94702,2,4,B|240:384|240:384|352:384|352:384|352:256|352:256|256:256,1,455,4|4,3:1|3:1,3:1:0:0:
448,256,94702,2,4,B|448:384|448:384|528:384,1,192.5,4|4,3:1|3:1,3:1:0:0:
80,256,94702,2,4,B|80:384|80:384|160:384,1,192.5,4|4,3:1|3:1,3:1:0:0:
63,77,94781,2,4,L|63:169,1,87.5,4|4,3:1|3:1,3:1:0:0:

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