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Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT [Osu|CatchTheBeat]

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Here it is, hope you like :D
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Title:Re:TrymenT
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Artist:Murasaki Hotaru
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Source:Re:LieF ~親愛なるあなたへ~
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I Must Decrease
[Insane]
  1. 00:01:939 (1,2,3) - generally i recommend avoiding patterns like this as they remove visual consistency between objects. you would probably find more visual appeal in having them all have the same angle.
  2. 00:05:254 (3) - instead of reflecting this horizontally, having the same slider may look better. EX: http://puu.sh/rL5ay/aa84feeae6.jpg
  3. 00:07:623 (2) - overmapped
  4. 00:08:254 (3) - why this slider shape :(
  5. 00:08:097 (2) - overmap
  6. 00:05:096 (3) - overmapped, clickable beat has no music
  7. 00:02:412 (2) - center note of this slider has no music
  8. 00:09:202 (4,2) - i advise avoiding overlap here.
  9. 00:10:465 (3) - why this angle? something like http://puu.sh/rL5qR/91f96e4d9e.jpg would look better
  10. 00:10:781 (1,2,3) - these objects are chaotic and dont fit together visually, adjust them to have more equal spacing and angle
  11. 00:12:044 (1,2,3,4) - is this overlap needed.
  12. 00:13:781 (2) - why this slider shape
  13. 00:16:938 (7) - it might be better to use http://puu.sh/rL5vx/3d541fae21.jpg as it maintains visuallys with 4-5 better (feel free to make spacing even i didnt care enough)
  14. 00:17:570 (2) - this overlaps your previous notes awkwardly.
  15. 00:18:044 (3) - angle is arbitrary and isnt justified by previous notes
  16. 00:18:833 (4) - pls dont use this slider shape
  17. 00:18:675 (3,5) - awkward overlap of previous notes, placement isnt justified by design
  18. 00:23:728 (2) - awkward blanketing of previous slider might as well be avoided or repolished to look better
  19. 00:27:517 (2,3,4) - uneven spacing
  20. 00:28:781 (1) - generally i would avoid flow like this since this is a such a calm part (i also dont like these kinds of visuals anyway)
  21. 00:29:728 (1) - unrankably offscreen
  22. 00:30:202 (2,3,1) - uneven blanket distance looks poor
  23. 00:31:465 (2,3,4,5,6) - there might be a way to make this look better (idk what that is, but consider revising)
  24. 00:32:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - im personally not a fan of oval shaped kind ugly patterns like this, would just recommend revising entirely.
  25. 00:35:096 (2) - why extended slider here when you havent done it at all in this part.
  26. 00:30:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2) - literally entirely a clockwise circle of patterning, consider variance in your design.
  27. 00:40:781 (1) - why nc
  28. 00:41:412 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - consider revising, doesnt fit the beat very well visually
  29. 00:42:360 (1) - this might not be the time to fully utilize hitnormal, find a hybrid between soft and normal for better sound.
  30. 00:43:781 (1,2,3,4,5) - these jumps are rly arbitrary. I dont see why they are designed the way they are.
  31. 00:44:570 (6,1,2,3) - generally for more intense bits like this, i would avoid linear flow, not only does it look poor but it doesnt really fit the difficulty that well
  32. 00:45:991 (5) - theres a lot of instances of this i skipped but again akward overlap between notes. you should try to justify placement of notes with other notes that come before and after.
  33. 00:50:570 (3,1) - unnaturally close, a result of poor screen management, adjust the pattern.
  34. Rest is sort of more of the same.
Topic Starter
_Meep_

Xexxar wrote:

[Insane]
  1. 00:01:939 (1,2,3) - generally i recommend avoiding patterns like this as they remove visual consistency between objects. you would probably find more visual appeal in having them all have the same angle. Fixed
  2. 00:05:254 (3) - instead of reflecting this horizontally, having the same slider may look better. EX: http://puu.sh/rL5ay/aa84feeae6.jpg Fixed
  3. 00:07:623 (2) - overmapped fixed
  4. 00:08:254 (3) - why this slider shape :( Felt that it fit the music,somewhat, fixed though
  5. 00:08:097 (2) - overmap fixed
  6. 00:05:096 (3) - overmapped, clickable beat has no music Fixed
  7. 00:02:412 (2) - center note of this slider has no music Fixed
  8. 00:09:202 (4,2) - i advise avoiding overlap here. Fixed
  9. 00:10:465 (3) - why this angle? something like http://puu.sh/rL5qR/91f96e4d9e.jpg would look better Fixed
  10. 00:10:781 (1,2,3) - these objects are chaotic and dont fit together visually, adjust them to have more equal spacing and angle Fixed
  11. 00:12:044 (1,2,3,4) - is this overlap needed. no ;-;
  12. 00:13:781 (2) - why this slider shape Fixed
  13. 00:16:938 (7) - it might be better to use http://puu.sh/rL5vx/3d541fae21.jpg as it maintains visuallys with 4-5 better (feel free to make spacing even i didnt care enough) Fixed
  14. 00:17:570 (2) - this overlaps your previous notes awkwardly. Fixed
  15. 00:18:044 (3) - angle is arbitrary and isnt justified by previous notes Fixed
  16. 00:18:833 (4) - pls dont use this slider shape Fixed
  17. 00:18:675 (3,5) - awkward overlap of previous notes, placement isnt justified by design Fixed
  18. 00:23:728 (2) - awkward blanketing of previous slider might as well be avoided or repolished to look better Fixed
  19. 00:27:517 (2,3,4) - uneven spacing Fixed
  20. 00:28:781 (1) - generally i would avoid flow like this since this is a such a calm part (i also dont like these kinds of visuals anyway) Fixed
  21. 00:29:728 (1) - unrankably offscreen Fixed
  22. 00:30:202 (2,3,1) - uneven blanket distance looks poor Fixed
  23. 00:31:465 (2,3,4,5,6) - there might be a way to make this look better (idk what that is, but consider revising) Fixed
  24. 00:32:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - im personally not a fan of oval shaped kind ugly patterns like this, would just recommend revising entirely. Fixed
  25. 00:35:096 (2) - why extended slider here when you havent done it at all in this part. Because at the previous part, the voice doesn't seem to fit the 3/4 and 1/2 slider, however,at this part,the voice is more stronger and clearer,and there is a clear continuation of its vocals that use a 3/4 and 1/2 method (imo)
  26. 00:30:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2) - literally entirely a clockwise circle of patterning, consider variance in your design. Fixed
  27. 00:40:781 (1) - why nc Fixed
  28. 00:41:412 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - consider revising, doesnt fit the beat very well visually Fixed
  29. 00:42:360 (1) - this might not be the time to fully utilize hitnormal, find a hybrid between soft and normal for better sound. Fixed
  30. 00:43:781 (1,2,3,4,5) - these jumps are rly arbitrary. I dont see why they are designed the way they are. Fixed
  31. 00:44:570 (6,1,2,3) - generally for more intense bits like this, i would avoid linear flow, not only does it look poor but it doesnt really fit the difficulty that well Fixed
  32. 00:45:991 (5) - theres a lot of instances of this i skipped but again akward overlap between notes. you should try to justify placement of notes with other notes that come before and after. Not sure if fixed,but fixed XD
  33. 00:50:570 (3,1) - unnaturally close, a result of poor screen management, adjust the pattern. Fixed
  34. Rest is sort of more of the same.
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17:10 *_Meep_ is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100514 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT [Insane]]
17:11 MadHypnofrog: it's your kudosu after all, not mine :>
17:11 _Meep_: the insane and flower pls
17:11 _Meep_: if not,the insane and hard mode
17:11 MadHypnofrog: ya two higher diffs would do
17:11 _Meep_: No,cuz I doubt you'd find anything in flowe
17:11 _Meep_: r
17:11 _Meep_: XD
17:12 MadHypnofrog: we'll see LOL
17:12 MadHypnofrog: might want to add the romanisation of that title in tags
17:12 *MadHypnofrog is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1101073 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT [Nowa's Flower]]
17:12 _Meep_: There isn't
17:13 MadHypnofrog: 00:03:675 (2,3) - k so here he stacks (1) and (2) and puts (3) away cause it has a different sound
17:13 _Meep_: it's literally Re:Tryment
17:13 _Meep_: lol
17:13 _Meep_: wait
17:13 MadHypnofrog: 00:05:728 (1,2) - according to this logic, (2) should be spaced out
17:13 _Meep_: no dont mod flower
17:13 MadHypnofrog: I meant the eroge title LOL
17:13 _Meep_: in the first place its not my diff lol
17:13 MadHypnofrog: ikr?
17:13 MadHypnofrog: LOL
17:13 _Meep_: LOL
17:13 MadHypnofrog: I'd just post it in the thread and wait LOL
17:13 _Meep_: XD
17:13 _Meep_: on to insane
17:13 MadHypnofrog: ya as you wish
17:13 *MadHypnofrog is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100514 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT [Insane]]
17:14 _Meep_: I remapped it yesterday
17:14 _Meep_: so see how u like it
17:14 _Meep_: hitsounds are off because the guy hasn't fixed stuff yet
17:14 _Meep_: and I told him not to since there may be more changes
17:14 MadHypnofrog: 00:06:675 (3) - is there really any reason to stack this? (3) is somehow a strong beat so I'd space it
17:15 _Meep_: but 3 as it is doesn't really stand out
17:15 _Meep_: if you were to put it anywhere in the map,it'd have less impact imo
17:15 MadHypnofrog: up for you, anyway, I just don't like stacking LOL
17:15 _Meep_: unless I put it straight infront
17:15 _Meep_: LOL
17:15 MadHypnofrog: 00:07:465 (3,1) - rip blankets 2016-2016
17:16 MadHypnofrog: 00:13:781 (6) - and then you tell me about weird slidershapes LOL
17:16 _Meep_: fixed
17:16 _Meep_: LUL
17:16 _Meep_: uniqueness
17:16 _Meep_: <3
17:17 _Meep_: 00:22:781 (2) - my fave slider shape
17:17 _Meep_: lol
17:17 MadHypnofrog: 00:13:781 (6) - seems like (1) is just a bit too off where it starts
17:17 MadHypnofrog: http://cdn.shigetora.pw/i/oyzpdll.png
17:18 _Meep_: fixed
17:18 MadHypnofrog: 00:16:465 (4,5,6,7) - I like this pattern but (6) having less emphasis feels wrong for me
17:19 MadHypnofrog: and yea why 6-7 isn't the same as 4-5 LOL
17:19 _Meep_: 00:16:623 (5,6) - note change in piano is slight,so the ds is small
17:19 _Meep_: it isnt? o-o
17:19 MadHypnofrog: yep it isn't LOL
17:19 _Meep_: it is lol
17:19 MadHypnofrog: http://cdn.shigetora.pw/i/fmkdoda.png
17:19 _Meep_: wtf?
17:19 MadHypnofrog: no idea but it isn't the same
17:19 MadHypnofrog: rip
17:20 _Meep_: fixed
17:20 _Meep_: LOL
17:21 MadHypnofrog: 00:30:202 (2) - idk I'd curve it the other way to make the flow a bit more different, the vocals change a bit here
17:22 MadHypnofrog: 00:30:991 (4,1) - swap ncs, even if (1) is a starting beat in that pattern it's still more logical to place the nc on (4)
17:22 MadHypnofrog: cause you've been following that way of ncing before
17:22 MadHypnofrog: same with 00:32:254 (7,1) -
17:23 _Meep_: hmm
17:23 MadHypnofrog: 00:32:886 (2) - any reason for skipping a vocal here?
17:23 MadHypnofrog: two 1/1 sliders would work much better
17:24 _Meep_: Im making use of the slight and soft kick sound in the background
17:24 _Meep_: since its a calm and slow part
17:24 _Meep_: rather than mapping the voice
17:25 MadHypnofrog: it feels like you're still mapping vocals LOL
17:25 _Meep_: well,half/half
17:25 _Meep_: vocals are strong at that whole part
17:26 MadHypnofrog: 00:32:886 (2) - anyway I'd smooth the curve a bit to make the flow to (3) better
17:26 _Meep_: curved
17:26 MadHypnofrog: 00:38:412 (1) - remove nc to keep it consistent
17:27 MadHypnofrog: 00:44:254 (4,5) - this looks like a 1/2 gap cause you have jumps in there so a player would want to do (5) as a 1/2 jump as well
17:27 MadHypnofrog: either stack them or space them more
17:28 MadHypnofrog: also I'd make the 3-4 jump bigger cause 4 is a strong sound but w/e
17:29 MadHypnofrog: 00:48:675 (1) - the flow between this and (2) is a bit strange, I'd curve it a bit less
17:29 MadHypnofrog: though I get the idea of this pattern
17:30 _Meep_: kk
17:30 MadHypnofrog: and ye, 00:47:412 (4) - nc
17:30 MadHypnofrog: 00:46:465 (1) - aaand remove this one
17:30 _Meep_: removed
17:31 _Meep_: fixedfixedfixed
17:31 MadHypnofrog: 00:51:202 (1) - uuuuuh I'd make it a slider+circle instead, idk why'd you put a repeat on this one
17:31 MadHypnofrog: cause 00:51:517 - is both a beginning of vocals and a strong beat
17:32 _Meep_: 00:51:675 (2) - only here is the start of the strong vocal though
17:32 _Meep_: nvm misheard again
17:32 _Meep_: but i wont change it
17:32 _Meep_: because it fits pretty well
17:33 MadHypnofrog: 00:55:465 (4,5,6,7,8) - would be a good idea to gradually increase the spacing on those
17:33 MadHypnofrog: cause now e.g. (6) is spaced the same as (5)
17:34 _Meep_: it increases only slightly
17:34 _Meep_: 00:55:781 (6,7,8) - only these three have really strong beats
17:34 MadHypnofrog: it does but it would still fit
17:34 MadHypnofrog: 00:58:781 (1,2,3) - hella awkward flow
17:34 MadHypnofrog: rotating it a bit would help
17:34 MadHypnofrog: http://cdn.shigetora.pw/i/zxjxkju.jpg smth like this
17:34 _Meep_: wait
17:35 MadHypnofrog: and changing (4) and (5) as well
17:35 _Meep_: should I ctrl+H 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ?
17:35 _Meep_: seems alot easier to jumpa nd flow is better
17:35 MadHypnofrog: idk it seems fine for me already
17:36 _Meep_: kk
17:37 MadHypnofrog: 01:03:833 (1) - ye it fits the vocals but a 1/1 repeat slider feels out of place when you use lots of 1/2s
17:37 MadHypnofrog: replacing it with three or even four 1/2 sliders would be better
17:38 MadHypnofrog: oh wait the fourth is already here nvm
17:38 _Meep_: xd
17:38 _Meep_: 01:10:149 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - the most fun part of the map
17:39 _Meep_: the flow is so flawless i could cry
17:39 MadHypnofrog: I can argue about 01:13:623 (2) - but it's not really that important LOL
17:39 _Meep_: LOL
17:40 MadHypnofrog: 01:30:360 (1) -
17:40 MadHypnofrog: nice
17:40 _Meep_: Took me like 10 tries to do
17:40 _Meep_: the ending was annoying though
17:40 MadHypnofrog: 01:28:781 (2) - mind softening the curve on this one to make it look like it's continuing (1)?
17:40 _Meep_: and im not sure if its really rankable
17:41 _Meep_: softened
17:41 MadHypnofrog: it actually can be unrankable since you can go both directions
17:41 _Meep_: Well,there are easily some points I can use to argue
17:41 _Meep_: 1.people can see slider stars,therefore they would know where to go
17:42 _Meep_: before the approach circle even touches the circle,the first slider star pops up
17:42 MadHypnofrog: it's readable if you use snaking sliders
17:42 _Meep_: indicating where to go
17:42 MadHypnofrog: and if you have a skin without those you can't really read them
17:42 _Meep_: Well,thats to their own risk
17:42 MadHypnofrog: e.g. hw's notch hell has overlaps but it's clear what direction do those sliders go
17:42 _Meep_: LOL
17:43 MadHypnofrog: other than that looks fine for me
17:43 *MadHypnofrog is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100513 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT [Hard]]
17:43 MadHypnofrog: od5 huh
17:43 MadHypnofrog: 6 pls
17:43 _Meep_: yea
17:43 _Meep_: I'll put 5.5
17:43 _Meep_: since theres a hard part
17:44 _Meep_: 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
17:44 _Meep_: #jumpsinhard
17:44 MadHypnofrog: 00:02:886 (3,4) - not sure if doing such low spacing is a good idea
17:44 _Meep_: Players said it was fine
17:44 MadHypnofrog: uh that flow from 5 to 8
17:44 MadHypnofrog: and that antijump on 8
17:44 MadHypnofrog: uhhhhh
17:44 MadHypnofrog: w/e
17:44 MadHypnofrog: I'll get to it later
17:45 _Meep_: XD
17:45 MadHypnofrog: 00:15:675 (2,3,4,5) - this looks like it's a 4 note stream
17:45 MadHypnofrog: spacing 3-5 out would help
17:46 MadHypnofrog: cause as for now even I would try to stream those immediately after (2) ends
17:46 _Meep_: done
17:46 MadHypnofrog: 00:18:281 - y u no map this
17:47 _Meep_: no triple sound lol
17:47 _Meep_: mapping more to the piano
17:47 MadHypnofrog: there's a clear triple tho
17:48 _Meep_: there is?
17:48 MadHypnofrog: 00:29:728 (7) - nc
17:48 _Meep_: nc'd
17:48 MadHypnofrog: ya and I would map it
17:48 MadHypnofrog: 00:30:991 (1) - and this one doesn't need ncing lol
17:49 MadHypnofrog: and what is that anchor point
17:49 _Meep_: wut
17:49 _Meep_: what IS that I wonder
17:49 _Meep_: lol
17:49 MadHypnofrog: http://cdn.shigetora.pw/i/dwoyzmj.png
17:49 _Meep_: nvm,doesnt affect anything anyway ^)^
17:49 MadHypnofrog: it doesn't indeed lol
17:50 MadHypnofrog: 00:34:149 (6) - mirroring (5) would be better imo
17:50 _Meep_: done
17:50 MadHypnofrog: 00:39:833 (6) - that curved ending triggered me lmao
17:50 _Meep_: lol
17:50 _Meep_: I fixed it
17:51 _Meep_: chill
17:51 _Meep_: nvm
17:51 _Meep_: i wont fix the curved ending <3
17:51 MadHypnofrog: oh boi
17:51 MadHypnofrog: 00:54:044 (7) - smooth this curve a bit
17:51 MadHypnofrog: would fix the flow
17:52 MadHypnofrog: k now the jumps
17:52 _Meep_: done
17:52 _Meep_: LUL
17:52 MadHypnofrog: 00:54:991 (1,2) - spacing those two a bit from (9) would fit
17:52 MadHypnofrog: y'know it's a jump sequence
17:52 MadHypnofrog: 00:55:623 (5,6,7) - please no it plays horrible
17:52 MadHypnofrog: this kind of a wide angle is meh
17:52 _Meep_: why lol
17:53 _Meep_: Adds a bit of difficulty to the map,and the jumps aren't THAT big
17:53 MadHypnofrog: 'meh this is not like your regular tv size farm maps, my jumps have wide angles!'
17:53 MadHypnofrog: lmao
17:54 MadHypnofrog: idk I would strongly suggest changing it
17:54 _Meep_: lmao
17:54 MadHypnofrog: you may try your luck and keep it LOL
17:54 MadHypnofrog: anyway
17:54 _Meep_: I WILL
17:54 _Meep_: <3
17:54 MadHypnofrog: 00:56:096 (8) - why the sudden low ds
17:54 _Meep_: its been the same
17:54 _Meep_: lol
17:54 MadHypnofrog: you used x0.5 SV in there which results in 0.6 DS
17:55 MadHypnofrog: compared to 2 you had before
17:55 MadHypnofrog: well it's 0.65 but nevertheless
17:55 _Meep_: lol
17:55 MadHypnofrog: (8) is kind of a strong beat with emphasized vocals
17:55 MadHypnofrog: so doing such spacing there makes no logic
17:56 _Meep_: I feel it played out the vocals and the emphasized voice quite well
17:56 _Meep_: tho
17:57 MadHypnofrog: low spacing is not really suitable for strong vocal and a strong beat together lol
17:57 _Meep_: Well,I woulnd't want it to be like,far DS twice in a row
17:57 _Meep_: thats double death and it wouldn't play as well
17:58 MadHypnofrog: 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - oh boi
17:58 _Meep_: keeping it slow,rather than in contrast to the song is best at the climax imo
17:58 _Meep_: being fast*
17:58 _Meep_: LOL
17:58 _Meep_: I knew you'd point that out as well
17:58 MadHypnofrog: I'm fine with that LOL
17:58 _Meep_: Though players didn't really have much trouble clearing that
17:58 MadHypnofrog: 01:06:991 (3,4,5,6) - but those are hella boring
17:58 MadHypnofrog: though I can understand why you did that
17:58 _Meep_: Well
17:58 MadHypnofrog: lol
17:58 _Meep_: no other place o-o
17:59 _Meep_: It'd stress the players enough to do those sliders
17:59 _Meep_: so I let them have some leeway right after
17:59 MadHypnofrog: 01:11:412 (5,6,7,8) - nice square y'got there
17:59 _Meep_: 01:10:149 (1,2,3,4) - beleef eet 0r n0t, th!s !s the s@me DS
17:59 _Meep_: thanks
17:59 _Meep_: LOL
18:00 MadHypnofrog: uh it seems almost the same so it's fine lol
18:01 MadHypnofrog: idk I'd do long sliders at the end
18:01 MadHypnofrog: but that's up to you
18:01 MadHypnofrog: those lonely circles feel out of place to me LOL
18:01 _Meep_: XD
18:01 _Meep_: Nah
18:01 _Meep_: :P
18:01 _Meep_: #lonersbelonely
18:02 MadHypnofrog: that's it I guess
18:02 _Meep_: Yay
18:02 _Meep_: go get ur kds
18:03 _Meep_: and I'll get mine a few days later since im lazy
18:03 MadHypnofrog: wow
18:03 MadHypnofrog: that's what laziness looks like
18:04 _Meep_: XD
Crowie
hooi

[Hard]
fix blankets pls

[Insane]
00:04:939 (2) - put it infront of 00:04:465 (1) -
00:05:412 (3) - crtl + G
00:09:202 (2) - make it blanket 00:07:465 (3) - as well, and ctrl + G
00:11:254 (1) - i think it's too far to reach, maybe make it closer to previous object
00:14:254 (7) - move on top of 00:14:886 (2) - and make into an upwards verticalish slider to emphasize the sound on 00:14:570 (1) -
00:14:886 (2) - maybe move closer to 00:14:570 (1,3) -
00:15:675 (5) - move closer to previous object
00:16:149 (3) - make a better blanket by copying 00:15:360 (4) - and ctrl + h + j + g
00:16:465 (4,5,6,7) - make into a cross shape
00:18:044 (3,1,2) - fix blanket
00:26:570 (2,3,1) - too big a jump, make smaller
00:29:728 (1,2) - copy the same shape
00:31:307 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make the jump smaller, also use a higher stack leniency to make it more readable?
00:32:886 (2) - extra hitsounds?
00:39:202 (6) - move downwards to below 00:38:886 (5) - ?
00:57:517 (1) - extend to 3/4, put the next circle so it DOESN'T OVERLAP sliderend
00:58:939 (2,3,4,5) - v
01:00:044 (1) - extend to 3/4, put the next circle so that it OVERLAPS the sliderend
01:00:991 (5) - copy 01:00:517 (3) -
01:01:939 (4,6,2) - make equidistant?
01:02:570 (1) - extend to 3/4, whether the next circle overlaps is up to u :3
01:04:623 - add circle
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - take the circles out from under the sliders pls
01:06:991 (1) - move to the right
01:07:939 (2,4) - fix blanket
01:08:096 (3,5) - move to the right a bit
01:09:360 (2) - move left down a bit
01:15:991 (4) - move up
01:19:307 (5,6,7) - larger spacing, sharper angle
01:30:360 (1) - nice slider :3

[Nowa's Flower]
00:02:728 (3) - move up right a bit?
00:14:570 (1,2) - bad angle :( , move to the bottom, maybe, just not on that side of the slider
00:27:675 (2) - barely a clickable sound at sliderhead
00:42:991 (4) - bad slider in relation to the previous circles, it just doesn't flow
00:56:096 (4) - make the swirl blanket follow circle more
00:58:307 (4,5,6) - obtuse angles like that are gross
00:59:412 (3,4,5) - circles --> slider, slider --> circles
01:03:123 (3) - better idea to make into 2 circles
01:09:360 (2) - change to circles
01:16:307 (6) - long sound (slider) starts here
01:19:465 (2) - no clickable sound at sliderhead

gl
Topic Starter
_Meep_

Crowie wrote:

hooi

[Hard]
fix blankets pls oki

[Insane]
00:04:939 (2) - put it infront of 00:04:465 (1) - Fixed
00:05:412 (3) - crtl + G Fixed
00:09:202 (2) - make it blanket 00:07:465 (3) - as well, and ctrl + G Fixed
00:11:254 (1) - i think it's too far to reach, maybe make it closer to previous object Made it further apart for a better anticlockwise flow rather than the circle going practically horizontal
00:14:254 (7) - move on top of 00:14:886 (2) - and make into an upwards verticalish slider to emphasize the sound on 00:14:570 (1) - \Fixed?
00:14:886 (2) - maybe move closer to 00:14:570 (1,3) - Fixed
00:15:675 (5) - move closer to previous object Fixed
00:16:149 (3) - make a better blanket by copying 00:15:360 (4) - and ctrl + h + j + g Fixed
00:16:465 (4,5,6,7) - make into a cross shape Fixed00:18:044 (3,1,2) - fix blanket Fixed
00:26:570 (2,3,1) - too big a jump, make smaller Fixed
00:29:728 (1,2) - copy the same shape Fixed
00:31:307 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - make the jump smaller, also use a higher stack leniency to make it more readable? Fixed to make it more readable
00:32:886 (2) - extra hitsounds? Leaving it to my hitsounder(yes I cant hitsound ik i suck)
00:39:202 (6) - move downwards to below 00:38:886 (5) - ? Fixed
00:57:517 (1) - extend to 3/4, put the next circle so it DOESN'T OVERLAP sliderend Fixed
00:58:939 (2,3,4,5) - v Fixed
01:00:044 (1) - extend to 3/4, put the next circle so that it OVERLAPS the sliderend Fixed
01:00:991 (5) - copy 01:00:517 (3) - Fixed
01:01:939 (4,6,2) - make equidistant? Fixed
01:02:570 (1) - extend to 3/4, whether the next circle overlaps is up to u :3 Fixed
01:04:623 - add circle I don't exactly hear anything here, the piano nor the vocals touch this tick so I won't add anything.
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - take the circles out from under the sliders pls Fixed
01:06:991 (1) - move to the right Fixed
01:07:939 (2,4) - fix blanket Fixed
01:08:096 (3,5) - move to the right a bit Fixed
01:09:360 (2) - move left down a bit Fixed
01:15:991 (4) - move up Fixed
01:19:307 (5,6,7) - larger spacing, sharper angleFixed
01:30:360 (1) - nice slider :3 Thx <3

gl
Thanks for modding <3 RANK DATA CORRUPTION SYMPHONY
Nowaie

Crowie wrote:

[Nowa's Flower]
00:02:728 (3) - move up right a bit? Solved the reason and moved a little bit


00:14:570 (1,2) - bad angle :( , move to the bottom, maybe, just not on that side of the slider I like anti flow. It makes the map more challenging and most importantly little bit more unique to play.

Went with a different stylish anti flow after the PM session



00:27:675 (2) - barely a clickable sound at sliderhead The sound is silent and shouldn't be a clickable, which it is not right now. I have that note mapped under a slidertail as a filler because otherwise the mapping there would be quite boring after all


00:42:991 (4) - bad slider in relation to the previous circles, it just doesn't flow How does it not flow? Flows just fine in my eyes http://puu.sh/rN9T4/f878c8db93.png Green line represents the flow which for the note3|slider4 is as simplified somewhat like this. Is that considered as a bad choice of flow?

After the session i'm still bit on the grey zone for changing this, most likely will do something if people keep noting this out



00:56:096 (4) - make the swirl blanket follow circle more Yeah, done


00:58:307 (4,5,6) - obtuse angles like that are gross Yeah i understand that you new people need your triangles and stuff but i won't change anything with reasoning like that

After the session : Made the angle sharper, though i don't want to ruin the patterns and the obtuse angles kinda fit the song as it is soft and so on



00:59:412 (3,4,5) - circles --> slider, slider --> circles Slider follows the vocals

Even after the session i'm still bit on a grey zone, if someone notes this out i will most likely fix it


01:03:123 (3) - better idea to make into 2 circles Better idea to give reasons for the suggestions

After begin unnecessarly rude, i apologized and made the changes


01:09:360 (2) - change to circles Slider follows the vocals

After session : Done, Enjoy the square of death


01:16:307 (6) - long sound (slider) starts here Sliderhead is a filler again and the long sound is represented with a finish hitsound for the 6

Moved the slider to 01:16:307 - and added a note here 01:16:623 -


01:19:465 (2) - no clickable sound at sliderhead I would want to hear what your solution to this would be. Note out that this 01:19:307 - this 01:19:465 - and this 01:19:623 - have to be mapped somehow

This ended up in an opinion based arguement so it was better that it was left like that. Though we both agreed that this should be a ckickable 01:19:623 - so that got changed



gl
Edit : After a PM session we understand each other bit more and we got some of the stuff sorted out. I will include the changes in the next update.

Edited the responds to the original suggestions aswell
Garven
Just glanced at the easy and normal...

Easy feels really fast paced due to AR, though it might get messy if you lower it. I didn't play around with it much.
00:22:465 (1) - Way too soon after a spinner. Give more recovery time please.

Normal's intro plays like a hard with very low spacing. Lay off on the 1/2 rhythms and try to make this more friendly to newer players.

Edit: Don't kudosu please.
Weber
hi

Hard

00:14:886 (1,2,1,2) - Spacing here may confuse players, I would make the first (1,2) shorter and the second (1,2) longer
00:27:833 (2) - Slider end could be brought out a little to make the blanket look a little better (NAZI)
00:55:623 (5,6,7,8) - It's difficult for me to judge this based on playability since I'm a technical player and I know how to snap, but I'm fairly certain players around this skill level will find it visually confusing considering the map's dependence on DS up until this point (except for my first suggestion). I would nerf these jumps to fix this.
01:06:991 (3,4,5,6,1) - These should be spaced out a little more, and the shape of the curve compared to the shape of the slider right afterwards could use some fixing.


Insane

00:39:833 (1,2) - Really REALLY bad overlap imo, stuck out like a sore thumb on initial test

GL
No_Gu
M4M from my queue

[Easy]
00:12:675 (2,3) - overlap
00:43:623 (3,4) - make a straight line
01:01:307 (3,1) - overlap
01:06:991 (7,1) - you should adjust the spacing after sv changes
01:13:939 (3,5) - overlap
01:29:412 (3) - better not to put 1/2 in easy diff

[Normal]
big gap from easy imo
00:29:096 (1) - remove NC
fine

[Hard]
00:14:886 (1,2,1,2) - big confusion in spacing imo
00:14:886 (1,2,1,2) - why slow down here?
00:14:886 (1,2,1,2) - this pattern is ok but better to make it not so crowded
quite don't know why you put patterns like 00:14:886 (1,2,1,2) - .

[Insane]
00:04:939 (3) - stack with 4 is better imo
00:36:675 (1,2,3) - spacing

[Nowa]
spacing setting in kiai time is not suitable imo.you set most 1/2s for a big spacing,which can't express the rhythm
Caput Mortuum
hi

[Nowa's Flower]
00:02:412 (2,3) - Could you make this a slider? It looks pretty uncomfortable since it's on the beginning of the song. Same applies for other notes with large time distance.
00:08:886 (3) - Make this straight or curved. This shape doesn't represent anything imo.
00:15:044 (2,3,4) - Couldn't you fill the white ticks?
00:47:886 - You skipped a sound here.
01:16:465 (1) - No sound here. Shouldn't be clickable.
01:27:833 (1) - Instead of doing this, try making a slider to 01:28:781.

[Insane]
00:04:781 (2,3) - This looks uncomfortable.
00:04:939 (3,4) - Try to make this a slider instead. And change (4) end to a circle.
00:13:781 (6) - Simplify the shape. This represent nothing to the song imo.
00:27:360 - Think about placing a note here.
00:37:465 - ^
00:39:833 (1) - This isn't good imo. As it skipped some mappable sounds there. Also doesn't really represent the vocals well.
00:43:623 - Think about placing a note here.
00:49:623 (4,5,6) - You randomly starts following the violin here. Better if you change it to double note instead, to map the toms.
01:00:202 - There's a kick here. Your slider doesn't need to end at the blue tick.
01:07:307 (2) - Stack this?
01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is overmapped.
01:14:886 (2,3,4,5) - ^
01:26:412 (4) - This looks offscreen.
01:30:360 (1) - I know you want to do some creativity, but this doesn't represent anything well and you skipped some sounds there. I think this slider should just replace the spinner instead.

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That's it for now :>

and

Don't forget :>


Topic Starter
_Meep_

Garven wrote:

Just glanced at the easy and normal...

Easy feels really fast paced due to AR, though it might get messy if you lower it. I didn't play around with it much.
00:22:465 (1) - Way too soon after a spinner. Give more recovery time please. Fixed
Thanks for modding!

Weber wrote:

hi

Hard

00:14:886 (1,2,1,2) - Spacing here may confuse players, I would make the first (1,2) shorter and the second (1,2) longer Fixed
00:27:833 (2) - Slider end could be brought out a little to make the blanket look a little better (NAZI) just no xd
00:55:623 (5,6,7,8) - It's difficult for me to judge this based on playability since I'm a technical player and I know how to snap, but I'm fairly certain players around this skill level will find it visually confusing considering the map's dependence on DS up until this point (except for my first suggestion). I would nerf these jumps to fix this. It plays the change of intensity in the music very well,and not many hard modes actually have jumps
01:06:991 (3,4,5,6,1) - These should be spaced out a little more, and the shape of the curve compared to the shape of the slider right afterwards could use some fixing. Due to the previously placed hardcore back to forth sliders,I wanted to give the players a bit of leeway since they would be shaking(most likely) after that,so I placed the notes real close.


Insane

00:39:833 (1,2) - Really REALLY bad overlap imo, stuck out like a sore thumb on initial test Still going to leave this here,doesn't look too bad to me

GL Thanks for moddin'!

No_Gu wrote:

M4M from my queue

[Easy]
00:12:675 (2,3) - overlap Fixed
00:43:623 (3,4) - make a straight line Fixed
01:01:307 (3,1) - overlap Fixed
01:06:991 (7,1) - you should adjust the spacing after sv changes Fixed
01:13:939 (3,5) - overlap Fixed
01:29:412 (3) - better not to put 1/2 in easy diff Fixed

[Hard]
00:14:886 (1,2,1,2) - big confusion in spacing imo
00:14:886 (1,2,1,2) - why slow down here?
00:14:886 (1,2,1,2) - this pattern is ok but better to make it not so crowded
quite don't know why you put patterns like 00:14:886 (1,2,1,2) - .
Fixed,I guess
Not too sure if you're talking about different points,since u used the same timing for 4 mods of the hard


[Insane]
00:04:939 (3) - stack with 4 is better imo Fixed
00:36:675 (1,2,3) - spacing I decided to get rid of at most 0.1x DS to keep a good flow,therefore I won't change

Thanks for modding!
Topic Starter
_Meep_

Eraser wrote:

hi

[Insane]
00:04:781 (2,3) - This looks uncomfortable. Going to keep it there
00:04:939 (3,4) - Try to make this a slider instead. And change (4) end to a circle. Though on the red tick 00:05:254 - there is a faint piano sound,so that can't be ignored,so no,no change.
00:13:781 (6) - Simplify the shape. This represent nothing to the song imo. The curves kind of represent how deep and rough the sound is,not too sure how to make sense of what im saying,but I feel that it fits the song since the sound kind of sounds like a delayed drum,and the curves kind of play it perfectly,sorry to say,but I feel like keeping this.
00:27:360 - Think about placing a note here. Not going to as the sound there is negligible,and due to the hitsounds it can barely be heard.
00:37:465 - ^ ^
00:39:833 (1) - This isn't good imo. As it skipped some mappable sounds there. Also doesn't really represent the vocals well. I can't find any other slider shapes, since putting straight sliders and curved sliders look really boring,I mean REALLY boring. So I'd rather something unique than something right.
00:43:623 - Think about placing a note here. I can't hear anything there,even if it is to create better flow,I intended for the insane to NOT be sightread easily,therefore I'm not placing a note.
00:49:623 (4,5,6) - You randomly starts following the violin here. Better if you change it to double note instead, to map the toms. Not exactly going for that,the hitsounds kind of play it out more easily,so I feel like keeping this, it was much worse than a simple triple beforehand,so this was supposedly an improvement. If I get any complaints on this,I'll see what I can do.
01:00:202 - There's a kick here. Your slider doesn't need to end at the blue tick. Keeping it as I am mirroring what I did here 00:57:517 (1,2) -
01:07:307 (2) - Stack this? Onto what? o-o
01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is overmapped. I don't see how it is overmapped, due to the movement of the cursor,it is fairly easy for insane players to jump to the stream,along with the fact that the stream itself follows the already-built-up anticlockwise flow,therefore it doesn't feel out of place. The sound of the stream may be soft,however because we added the hitsounds,it became more louder and distinct,making it the perfect time for a climax.
01:14:886 (2,3,4,5) - ^ You may be right on this,however it would feel like it'd take away and break the momentum of the player,because I was using sliders and more sliders beforehand,therefore adding notes would feel out. Secondly, I feel that the players would expect something to 'not ruin their expectations.' If I were to change it into https://gyazo.com/7fd3b784d3c0b9483286945c0ec8f0c6, it'd sound and look mundane and lifeless. If I were to replace it with https://gyazo.com/ff166a1c76b9ae3dceb8b2e84eb86aeb, the momentum would be broken due to the note 01:14:886 - as it would feel off to play a random note after spamming sliders. Thirdly, The hitsounds(mentioned alot) amplifies the mood of the song to make it as tense as possible,therefore it'd sound and play well, it'd be something they'd expect in a kiai time of a song and thats what I'm going for.
01:26:412 (4) - This looks offscreen. I asked #modhelp, they said that if I changed my resolution to 4:3 and it didn't go offscreen,it was rankable,therefore, it isn't offscreen.
01:30:360 (1) - I know you want to do some creativity, but this doesn't represent anything well and you skipped some sounds there. I think this slider should just replace the spinner instead. If you're talking about the piano notes,they were played by the outmost curves of the sakura slider(I want to call it that.) And due to the massive use of those Sakura Trees and petals 00:07:984 - and 01:32:412 - , I feel that a flower slider would fit this song perfectly. A spinner would be repetitive since it doesn't even play the notes either, it doesn't even have slider stars to play the sounds,so I don't want to remove this.

I apologise for rebutting all of the suggestions,howeevr I felt that it was neccessary to stand my ground due to the fact that I don't want to be some person who simply adds in mods as it 'looks better' to the modder,as suggestions are subjective.
Thanks for modding anyways!


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That's it for now :>

and

Don't forget :>


I won't lose to you guys <3
Nowaie

No_Gu wrote:

M4M from my queue

[Nowa]
spacing setting in kiai time is not suitable imo.you set most 1/2s for a big spacing,which can't express the rhythm I lowered it by a little bit. It was kinda excessive but i wanted to create a map that is kinda fast but still easy going.

Eraser wrote:

hi

[Nowa's Flower]
00:02:412 (2,3) - Could you make this a slider? It looks pretty uncomfortable since it's on the beginning of the song. Same applies for other notes with large time distance. I follow the piano notes there and i'm not so sure if a slider would work after all as there aren't any hold sounds. The whistle in the note emphasizes the bit longer piano note anyway. About the uncomfortablility i'd want to hear few more opinions and maybe suggestions until i'd make my fine decision
00:08:886 (3) - Make this straight or curved. This shape doesn't represent anything imo. B-b-but muh aesthetics ;w;. Fixed
00:15:044 (2,3,4) - Couldn't you fill the white ticks? I had a complete overhaul with that pattern. Will take this into the count when making the new pattern
00:47:886 - You skipped a sound here. F- me, done
01:16:465 (1) - No sound here. Shouldn't be clickable. Clear piano note Wait you had wrong verson =w=. Just ignore this pls
01:27:833 (1) - Instead of doing this, try making a slider to 01:28:781. The short repeat slider has to be there because it folllows the guitar/banjo/the_fuck_is_that_instrument sounds. Also what i would be exactly following if i make a new slider to 01:28:781 - ?
Thanks for modding~


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Caput Mortuum
Clearing some things.

_Meep_ wrote:

Eraser wrote:

01:07:307 (2) - Stack this? Onto what? o-o I think there was another hitcircle in the same place... I forgot :> Try to select that circle and move a few seconds back and stack where possible.

01:30:360 (1) - I know you want to do some creativity, but this doesn't represent anything well and you skipped some sounds there. I think this slider should just replace the spinner instead. If you're talking about the piano notes,they were played by the outmost curves of the sakura slider(I want to call it that.) And due to the massive use of those Sakura Trees and petals 00:07:984 - and 01:32:412 - , I feel that a flower slider would fit this song perfectly. A spinner would be repetitive since it doesn't even play the notes either, it doesn't even have slider stars to play the sounds,so I don't want to remove this. Seems like you misunderstood me here. What I mean is not swapping the place, but I'm trying to tell you to map the vocals, and remove the spinner then move the long slider to replace the spinner.
I won't lose to you guys <3
:>
Topic Starter
_Meep_

Eraser wrote:

01:07:307 (2) - Stack this? Onto what? o-o I think there was another hitcircle in the same place... I forgot :> Try to select that circle and move a few seconds back and stack where possible. I'll try to find it

01:30:360 (1) - I know you want to do some creativity, but this doesn't represent anything well and you skipped some sounds there. I think this slider should just replace the spinner instead. If you're talking about the piano notes,they were played by the outmost curves of the sakura slider(I want to call it that.) And due to the massive use of those Sakura Trees and petals 00:07:984 - and 01:32:412 - , I feel that a flower slider would fit this song perfectly. A spinner would be repetitive since it doesn't even play the notes either, it doesn't even have slider stars to play the sounds,so I don't want to remove this. Seems like you misunderstood me here. What I mean is not swapping the place, but I'm trying to tell you to map the vocals, and remove the spinner then move the long slider to replace the spinner. The 2nd curve,at the top plays the 'iii' of the 'kiiii-miiii-eee' the last bottom curve then plays the 'e' sound', therefore it IS mapped to the vocals.

I won't lose to you guys <3
:>[/quote]
:3
Yoshimaro
something something moe anime girls something rank more moe

cute face

pre mod ramble

box
mod

"good map cant wait for it to be ranked!"
Yoshimaro
Oh my gosh moe anime girls, seriously osu! needs to rank more moe anime girls.

!(8*^_^)7

this mapset is pretty nice as it is, i only a couple things tbh also add some hitsounds

eays
where are the hitsounds? :c

00:09:517 (1,2,3) - this isn't a perfect triangle, which is okay but one thing going on here is that the object spacing is a bit inconsistent and looks a tiny bit goofy, maybe space 00:10:781 (3) - further away from 00:09:517 (1) - and dont blanket? something like

00:22:465 (1,2) - try to orient in a way that can hit 00:24:044 - because for the following combos you map that beat, its really convenient here since its right after a spinner you can basically remap backwards from 00:24:991 - , i just feel like the vocal emphasis on 00:24:044 - is strong enough here just as it was the proceeding parts to deserve at least a slider

oh hi are you looking at that spinner? cool me too h e h e

9/6=3/2 and 3-2=1 , there are 3 mappers and 2 GD but only 1 set meaning YOU'RE ALL THE SAME PERSON monstrata confirmed
00:41:254 (4) - maybe NC since mapping to a different musical element? (vocals > piano)

dahahahahaaaaaah she's cute wtf

hrad
histoudns :c

00:22:781 (2) - woah thats nice shape

00:24:991 (1,2) - blaknet!

00:56:096 (8) - space further from 00:55:939 (7) - , deserves its own emphasis and is slightly jarring because the momentum between 00:55:781 (6,7,8) - is pretty linear but the momentum dies 00:55:939 (7,8) - right when musically it's need just as much if not more. one way of doing this (the way that wouldn't mess up the rest of the map) would be to re orient 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - instead honestly, try to find similar flow just different end point and that would solve it all

01:10:149 (1,2) - hi blanket c:

TEEEEEE HEHEHEEHEHEE MOEE

isnaen
o hey hitsounds c:

00:13:781 (6) - o dang thats nice shape lol

00:24:360 (4,1) - LOL THIS IS SUPER NITPICKY AND LIKE... DOESN'T MEAN SHIT IN TERMS OF PLAYABILITY but that hit circle is just a bit too much to the right (its literally like 5 pixels, at this point i should probably go sudoku myself cus it means nothing)

01:11:412 - i feel a flow change is warranted here

01:30:360 (1) - WHAT THE FUCK THAT'S BEAUTIFUL ITS MONSTRATA ITS MONSTRATA CONFIRMED I FUCKING KNEW IT LOOK HE EVEN DID SLIDER ART

01:31:623 - OH MY FUCC IT EVEN ALIGNS ON A BEAT CHANGE DUDE IM DONE ITS MONSTRATA HAHAHA HI MOMSTRAT HOW ARE YOU ENJOYING MY MOD? Xdd

AHAHAHAHA I CANT SHE'S SO MOE LOL

hi nowa
hello h e h e C: you get a cookie cus nice map

good map cant wait for it to be ranked!
Shocola
M4M! :( ?

[Easy]
Where's the video?
00:09:517 (1,3) - this slider are too close to each other, try to make other pattern
00:20:886 (1) - end this spinner at this white tick 00:22:149 -

[Normal]
Where's the video?
pretty in good state

[Hard]
00:18:360 (4,5) - i wouldn't recommend using this pattern, it kinda brake the slider flow (make the slider look like they are men't for each other)
00:25:307 (2,4) - need better blanket
01:10:149 (1,2) -
00:45:991 (5) - this made me speechless
01:29:096 (1) - don't make this slider go reverse make it like this vv

01:30:360 - make a slider here

Im starting to get lazy

[Insane]
00:39:833 (1,2) - overlaps
01:24:360 (5,6) - need better blanket

[Flower]
01:05:570 - add a note here
01:06:202 - ^
01:06:833 - ^
Topic Starter
_Meep_

- Yoshimaro - wrote:

Oh my gosh moe anime girls, seriously osu! needs to rank more moe anime girls.

!(8*^_^)7

this mapset is pretty nice as it is, i only a couple things tbh also add some hitsounds

eays
where are the hitsounds? :c :_:

00:09:517 (1,2,3) - this isn't a perfect triangle, which is okay but one thing going on here is that the object spacing is a bit inconsistent and looks a tiny bit goofy, maybe space 00:10:781 (3) - further away from 00:09:517 (1) - and dont blanket? something like Fixed

00:22:465 (1,2) - try to orient in a way that can hit 00:24:044 - because for the following combos you map that beat, its really convenient here since its right after a spinner you can basically remap backwards from 00:24:991 - , i just feel like the vocal emphasis on 00:24:044 - is strong enough here just as it was the proceeding parts to deserve at least a sliderFixed

oh hi are you looking at that spinner? cool me too h e h e

9/6=3/2 and 3-2=1 , there are 3 mappers and 2 GD but only 1 set meaning YOU'RE ALL THE SAME PERSON monstrata confirmed
00:41:254 (4) - maybe NC since mapping to a different musical element? (vocals > piano) Fixed

dahahahahaaaaaah she's cute wtf

hrad
histoudns :c
:(
00:22:781 (2) - woah thats nice shape thanx

00:24:991 (1,2) - blaknet! Fixed

00:56:096 (8) - space further from 00:55:939 (7) - , deserves its own emphasis and is slightly jarring because the momentum between 00:55:781 (6,7,8) - is pretty linear but the momentum dies 00:55:939 (7,8) - right when musically it's need just as much if not more. one way of doing this (the way that wouldn't mess up the rest of the map) would be to re orient 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - instead honestly, try to find similar flow just different end point and that would solve it all Nu, cuz it doesn't break the momentum to a hard mode player, without that closing in distance, that part'd be highlighted as overmapped and gg

01:10:149 (1,2) - hi blanket c: hi ;3

TEEEEEE HEHEHEEHEHEE MOEE

isnaen
o hey hitsounds c:

00:13:781 (6) - o dang thats nice shape lol thanx

00:24:360 (4,1) - LOL THIS IS SUPER NITPICKY AND LIKE... DOESN'T MEAN SHIT IN TERMS OF PLAYABILITY but that hit circle is just a bit too much to the right (its literally like 5 pixels, at this point i should probably go sudoku myself cus it means nothing)lol k

01:11:412 - i feel a flow change is warranted here Nope no flow change there,its supposed to go in that flow all the way so the stream later on'd be easier

01:30:360 (1) - WHAT THE FUCK THAT'S BEAUTIFUL ITS MONSTRATA ITS MONSTRATA CONFIRMED I FUCKING KNEW IT LOOK HE EVEN DID SLIDER ARTlul

01:31:623 - OH MY FUCC IT EVEN ALIGNS ON A BEAT CHANGE DUDE IM DONE ITS MONSTRATA HAHAHA HI MOMSTRAT HOW ARE YOU ENJOYING MY MOD? Xdd im *cough* expert *cough* at it,totally,yes,yea,mm,yes,ok,stop,ik

AHAHAHAHA I CANT SHE'S SO MOE LOL

hi nowa
hello h e h e C: you get a cookie cus nice map WHY DONT I GET A COOKIE >:O

good map cant wait for it to be ranked!
thanx for moddin'!

[-Chocola-] wrote:

M4M! :( ?

[Easy]
Where's the video? Fixed LOL
00:09:517 (1,3) - this slider are too close to each other, try to make other pattern Fixed
00:20:886 (1) - end this spinner at this white tick 00:22:149 - Fixed

[Hard]
00:18:360 (4,5) - i wouldn't recommend using this pattern, it kinda brake the slider flow (make the slider look like they are men't for each other) I don't get what you're saying LOL the pattern seems fine to me
00:25:307 (2,4) - need better blanket Fixed
01:10:149 (1,2) - Fixed
00:45:991 (5) - this made me speechless I suppose you mean that its bad? Adding a straight or curved slider would look boring as hell,imagine it. Though Im not sure if this slider as it is carries any more impact than a normal slider does. Imo, it does.
01:29:096 (1) - don't make this slider go reverse make it like this vv Fixed

01:30:360 - make a slider here mappin to da piano notez

Im starting to get lazy

[Insane]
00:39:833 (1,2) - overlaps I am aware,it is intentional.
01:24:360 (5,6) - need better blanket Fixed
Thanks for modding :D
Vovan
Hi :3
A random M4M appears !

[General]

Easy and Normal kiais are different than Hard, Insane and flower diffs.

[Easy]

00:01:939 (1,2) - Improve this blanket (reverse of the slider (2))

00:04:465 - Make it clickable for more emphasis

00:06:991 - ^

00:08:254 (4,1,2,3) - The overlap enter (4&2) looks weird. Why not place (2) in front of (1) and (3) will blanket 2 ? (And if you don't have enough place, place (1) higher)

21360,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
Inherithed point not useful

00:23:412 (1,3,4) - The spacing enter the blanket is different and that looks weird.

00:27:517 (1,2) - Improve blanket

00:34:465 (4,5) - Strange flow

00:35:096 (5,6) - Improve blanket (end of 6)

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These inherithed points aren't useful

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57281,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0
57360,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
57439,-100,4,1,1,60,0,0
Same

01:24:044 (3,4) - Improve blanket

01:29:412 (3,4) - Why this stack ?

89570,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
Inherithed point not useful

92728,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
Same

[619's Normal]

00:01:939 (1) - Change the end of thhis slider to here : 00:02:412 - It looks better

00:28:465 (4,1) - A double blanket will look better than a symmetry

00:29:096 (1) - Why this NC ?

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92728,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0

These inherithed points aren't useful

[Hard]

00:17:570 (2,5) - Touching sliders

00:25:939 (4,5) - A blanket ??

00:32:886 (3,6) - Overlap (you can see it here 00:33:419 - )

00:34:149 (6,1) - ^

00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Disappointing pattern

01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nice pattern ! I really like it !

01:22:465 (1,2) - Just a 1/1 slider will be good

01:24:360 (2,3,4) - Curve them a bit less to make them better
Nowaie

- Yoshimaro - wrote:

eays
where are the hitsounds? :c See the response to lexis

hi nowa
hello h e h e C: you get a cookie cus nice map Nom nom sank you nom nom

good map cant wait for it to be ranked!

[-Chocola-] wrote:

[Flower]
01:05:570 - add a note here
01:06:202 - ^
01:06:833 - ^

For the first and the second, i honestly don't hear anything that would be mapped under a clickable there ;^; If you could help me understand what those notes would follow i'd be more than happy to map those two notes

For the third one, there is a drum hit i missed, fixed

Lexis wrote:

Hi :3
A random M4M appears !

[General]

Easy and Normal kiais are different than Hard, Insane and flower diffs.

[Easy]
21360,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
55149,-100,4,1,1,30,0,0
55307,-100,4,1,1,35,0,0
55465,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0
55623,-100,4,1,1,45,0,0
55781,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
55939,-100,4,1,1,55,0,0
57202,-100,4,1,1,30,0,0
57281,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0
57360,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
57439,-100,4,1,1,60,0,0
89570,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
92728,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
Inherithed point not useful

As the hitsounder for the mapset, the hitsounding is in process (I'm lazy =w=) and all the inherited points will be dealt with that i don't see to be "useful". Currently i have finished the hitsounding for insane and my own difficulty and i will finish them for hard and easy soon. For the normal, it technically was hitsounded by @619 and unless he/she doesn't want me to make the hitsounds for the diff i won't be changing/responding to mods regarding/touching them
Thanks for modding guys~


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Topic Starter
_Meep_

Lexis wrote:

Hi :3
A random M4M appears !

[General]

Easy and Normal kiais are different than Hard, Insane and flower diffs. Fixed

[Easy]

00:01:939 (1,2) - Improve this blanket (reverse of the slider (2)) Fixed

00:04:465 - Make it clickable for more emphasis Fixed

00:06:991 - ^ Fixed

00:08:254 (4,1,2,3) - The overlap enter (4&2) looks weird. Why not place (2) in front of (1) and (3) will blanket 2 ? (And if you don't have enough place, place (1) higher) Fixed

21360,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
Inherithed point not useful

00:23:412 (1,3,4) - The spacing enter the blanket is different and that looks weird. I guess its fixed?
00:27:517 (1,2) - Improve blanket Fixed

00:34:465 (4,5) - Strange flow Keeping it there

00:35:096 (5,6) - Improve blanket (end of 6) Fixed

55149,-100,4,1,1,30,0,0
55307,-100,4,1,1,35,0,0
55465,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0
55623,-100,4,1,1,45,0,0
55781,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
55939,-100,4,1,1,55,0,0
These inherithed points aren't useful

57202,-100,4,1,1,30,0,0
57281,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0
57360,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
57439,-100,4,1,1,60,0,0
Same

01:24:044 (3,4) - Improve blanket Fixed

01:29:412 (3,4) - Why this stack ? Fixed

89570,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
Inherithed point not useful

92728,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0
Same

[Hard]

00:17:570 (2,5) - Touching sliders Fixed

00:25:939 (4,5) - A blanket ?? Fixed

00:32:886 (3,6) - Overlap (you can see it here 00:33:419 - ) Fixed

00:34:149 (6,1) - ^ Fixed

00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Disappointing pattern I don't see how this is disappointing,this is pretty challenging for a hard mode player,considering hard mode players always go with the flow and don't see jumps as much in a hard mode,therefore I feel like I should keep it

01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nice pattern ! I really like it ! Thanks? XD

01:22:465 (1,2) - Just a 1/1 slider will be good Fixed

01:24:360 (2,3,4) - Curve them a bit less to make them better Fixed
Thanks for modding ;d
619

No_Gu wrote:

[Normal]
big gap from easy imo
00:29:096 (1) - remove NC - fixed
fine - thanks

Lexis wrote:

[619's Normal]

00:01:939 (1) - Change the end of thhis slider to here : 00:02:412 - It looks better - fixed

00:28:465 (4,1) - A double blanket will look better than a symmetry - I wanted it to do so i will not change

00:29:096 (1) - Why this NC ? - Already fixed

11965,-100,4,2,1,50,0,0

21360,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0

55149,-100,4,1,1,30,0,0

55465,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0

55781,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0

57202,-100,4,1,1,30,0,0
57281,-100,4,1,1,40,0,0
57360,-100,4,1,1,50,0,0
57439,-100,4,1,1,60,0,0

89412,-100,4,2,1,20,0,0
89570,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0

92728,-100,4,2,1,10,0,0

These inherithed points aren't useful - ok, thx, fixed
Thanks for mods!

UDP
619
osu file format v14

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WidescreenStoryboard: 1

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BeatDivisor: 4
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TimelineZoom: 2.5

[Metadata]
Title:Re:TrymenT
TitleUnicode:Re:TrymenT
Artist:Murasaki Hotaru
ArtistUnicode:Murasaki Hotaru
Creator:_Meep_
Version:619's Normal
Source:Re:LieF ~親愛なるあなたへ~
Tags:Eroge DTM9 Nowa 619 Opening Rask
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_DT3
I'm a kd farmer

[Easy]
  1. First of all, try to stay consistent with your NCs, try putting a NC every 2nd measure for easy, that means like for example 00:04:465 (3) - , 00:06:991 (5) - and 00:14:570 (4) - . Don't forget there are more
  2. And generally I thought this diff was rather inconsistent, so just try bringing in some consistency
  3. 00:04:465 (3,4) - 00:06:991 (5,6) - Why not map the sounds here when you mapped them 00:01:939 (1,2) - ? They do deserve to be mapped
  4. 00:12:675 (2,3) - Since beginners will follow the whole slider, this flow is not so good and can be better.
  5. 00:14:570 (4,1) - You can simply avoid the overlap by mapping more towards the top
  6. 00:24:991 (4) - You mapped to the vocals here -> 00:22:781 (1,2,3) - but not here. Why?
  7. 00:58:781 (3,1) - 01:01:307 (3,1) - Same goes with the flow here as above
  8. 01:03:833 (3,4) - The flow could easily be better by flipping it horizontally
  9. 01:05:096 (4,5,6) - A simple Repeat slider could do
I'll mod the rest later on if you remind me, ran out of time today
Topic Starter
_Meep_

_DT3 wrote:

I'm a kd farmer

[Easy]
  1. First of all, try to stay consistent with your NCs, try putting a NC every 2nd measure for easy, that means like for example 00:04:465 (3) - , 00:06:991 (5) - and 00:14:570 (4) - . Don't forget there are more Fixed
  2. And generally I thought this diff was rather inconsistent, so just try bringing in some consistency Fixed
  3. 00:04:465 (3,4) - 00:06:991 (5,6) - Why not map the sounds here when you mapped them 00:01:939 (1,2) - ? They do deserve to be mapped Considering that in the opening of the song, one part is for the slow part(the starting) and the more aggressive/fast part(the part before the vocals), I think the transition between that should have thenotes while the slow part shouldn't,if not it'd be unexpected for the new/easy players that the rhythm is quite fast even for a slow part of a song.
  4. 00:12:675 (2,3) - Since beginners will follow the whole slider, this flow is not so good and can be better. Fixed
  5. 00:14:570 (4,1) - You can simply avoid the overlap by mapping more towards the top Fixed
  6. 00:24:991 (4) - You mapped to the vocals here -> 00:22:781 (1,2,3) - but not here. Why? I cant map notes one whole tick after the slider,because in easy,you'd be able to see the note before the spinner even ends
  7. 00:58:781 (3,1) - 01:01:307 (3,1) - Same goes with the flow here as above To make it similar I made it so the sliderends where the reverses were would point in the direction of the next 1/1 slider,since it's very difficult to move them around in a way that would make them avoid overlapping.
  8. 01:03:833 (3,4) - The flow could easily be better by flipping it horizontally Fixed
  9. 01:05:096 (4,5,6) - A simple Repeat slider could do Fixed
I'll mod the rest later on if you remind me, ran out of time today
Okie
Rumia-
m4m~

[Nowa]
00:09:517 (1) - its too edge .. maybe consider this to move inwards a little ??
00:18:675 (2,3) - suggestion to rotate it by -30 , flows better imo! how my suggestion looks like

00:20:728 (5,2) - avoid this overlap? minor
00:33:044 (4,5) - i think better this both as overlaps ( act as anti jump) would give great impact ~
00:48:044 (3,4) - try unstack this , make a little jump here ? would be more consistent i think
01:05:570 - here and the other red ticks u can add circles imo , its a bit weird to have these pauses while the previous part is intensely mapped as in 1/2s
01:16:781 (3) - you can nc this , looks more organise with the nc grouping~
01:27:044 (2,3) - make them same ds as 01:26:412 (3,1) -

[Insane]
maybe just ar9 better??
00:07:465 (3,4) - conflict with your general idea around this part such as 00:03:675 (2,3) - , 00:06:202 (2,3) - or others u stack on the next slider not on previous
00:13:307 (5) - nc here ~
00:30:991 (1,2) - make a small movement here , since its kinda ( off ) feeling of just 1 stacks and others are jump maybe u can make them like http://puu.sh/rSAMx.jpg
00:36:044 (4,1) - reverse this nc
00:39:833 (1,2) - instead of these unintentional overlaps , you can make them likethis looks more organise imo!

01:18:202 (2,4,5) - maybe

01:18:991 (4) - nc
01:22:781 (1,2) - i think you catch it wrong .. http://puu.sh/rSB1R.jpg fits better
01:24:675 (6,7,1) - http://puu.sh/rSB3l.jpg
01:30:360 (1) - cool :O
01:35:412 (1) - personal opinion , i think its best if you just delete this and extend spinner up til here~ kind of sudden ;o;


[Hard]
AR -1
00:04:465 (1,2) - try this ?

00:32:886 (3) - since you are following vocals , why not this too correct way to follow vocal

00:35:412 (2,3) - same as above
00:53:649 (5) - i think better keep up with the 1/2s instead , look more consistent imo
00:55:939 (7,8) - whats with the sudden low spacing ;w;
01:10:149 (1,2,3,4) - maybe make the blanket looks unified..

01:13:860 (5) - same as i said previously
01:22:465 (1) - doesnt have to extend to 3/4 slider imo..

[619]
00:06:991 (1) - it should end at previous red tick

[easy]
00:05:728 (4) - it should end at previous red tick
00:33:202 (2) - remove this circle to give space for newbies to read ~
00:38:254 (2,4) - remove , 00:38:570 (2) - add reverse ~
Topic Starter
_Meep_

Rumia- wrote:

m4m~

[Insane]
maybe just ar9 better??
00:07:465 (3,4) - conflict with your general idea around this part such as 00:03:675 (2,3) - , 00:06:202 (2,3) - or others u stack on the next slider not on previous Fixed
00:13:307 (5) - nc here ~ Fixed
00:30:991 (1,2) - make a small movement here , since its kinda ( off ) feeling of just 1 stacks and others are jump maybe u can make them like http://puu.sh/rSAMx.jpg no,cuz I like to be a troll
00:36:044 (4,1) - reverse this nc Fixed
00:39:833 (1,2) - instead of these unintentional overlaps , you can make them likethis looks more organise imo! Fixed

01:18:202 (2,4,5) - maybe Fixed

01:18:991 (4) - nc Fixed
01:22:781 (1,2) - i think you catch it wrong .. http://puu.sh/rSB1R.jpg fits better Fixed
01:24:675 (6,7,1) - http://puu.sh/rSB3l.jpg Fixed
01:30:360 (1) - cool :O thx ;o
01:35:412 (1) - personal opinion , i think its best if you just delete this and extend spinner up til here~ kind of sudden ;o; Time to see some misses <3


[Hard]
AR -1
00:04:465 (1,2) - try this ? Fixed

00:32:886 (3) - since you are following vocals , why not this too correct way to follow vocal Fixed

00:35:412 (2,3) - same as above Fixed
00:53:649 (5) - i think better keep up with the 1/2s instead , look more consistent imo I think adding the note there makes it more challenging so I won't change anything
00:55:939 (7,8) - whats with the sudden low spacing ;w; Distancing it would make it feel and play like it's been overmapped,and it's to give players some leniency after they did JUMPS in a HARD MDOE(OMG THEY DID IT) well yea
01:10:149 (1,2,3,4) - maybe make the blanket looks unified.. I doubt it'd give the same impact if I were to switch to yours,as 01:10:149 (1,2) - Play like its the slow progression into the climax,while 01:10:781 (3,4) - plays like its going to start the climax, and even though they may look different in terms of distance,it plays well as its like 'increasing distance as the climax comes in' kind of thing, like how 01:10:149 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - distance increases

01:13:860 (5) - same as i said previously ^
01:22:465 (1) - doesnt have to extend to 3/4 slider imo.. Fixed

[easy]
00:05:728 (4) - it should end at previous red tick If you listen to the parts before and after,I mapped to a certain piano sound throughout the first part of the song
00:33:202 (2) - remove this circle to give space for newbies to read ~ Fixed
00:38:254 (2,4) - remove , 00:38:570 (2) - add reverse ~ Fixed?
Thx for modding ;o
Nowaie

Rumia- wrote:

m4m~

[Nowa]
00:09:517 (1) - its too edge .. maybe consider this to move inwards a little ?? I tweaked it by a little bit. Should be better
00:18:675 (2,3) - suggestion to rotate it by -30 , flows better imo! how my suggestion looks like Let's say this may not be something i'm looking from that pattern. The 4 is supposed to be paralled with the straight parts (when compared to the 4). This is in the grey zone over all atleast for now. I may consider this again if people start seeing that as a huge problem

00:20:728 (5,2) - avoid this overlap? minor Fixed~
00:33:044 (4,5) - i think better this both as overlaps ( act as anti jump) would give great impact ~ Uhh... Stack 4 with something, stack 5 with 4 or what? I'm bit confused what do you exactly mean
00:48:044 (3,4) - try unstack this , make a little jump here ? would be more consistent i think Made a mini jump, let's see how it goes
01:05:570 - here and the other red ticks u can add circles imo , its a bit weird to have these pauses while the previous part is intensely mapped as in 1/2s Just like i responded to chocola, i honestly don't hear anything that would be mapped under a clickable there ;^; If you could help me understand what those notes would follow i'd be more than happy to map those two notes
01:16:781 (3) - you can nc this , looks more organise with the nc grouping~ Sure, why not
01:27:044 (2,3) - make them same ds as 01:26:412 (3,1) - Alrighty
Thanks for modding~


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-NeBu-
hey, m4m: (mod here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481088)

just some basic stuff I think, dont expect2much :C

Nowa's Flower:

00:08:254 (1,2) - I would slider it.
00:17:570 (3,4) - ctrl+g the rhythm and change placement maybe? c:
00:22:939 (3,4) - ctrl+g and remove 00:22:939 (3) - in my opinion you get better rhythm
00:25:939 (1) - volume 5% the slider end?
00:27:202 (1,2) - just a suggestion: 00:27:202 (1) - up to blue tick, 00:27:517 (2) - move to white tick and make it longer until white tick and volume 5% slider end of first slider.
00:29:412 (4) - short to red tick or 5% volume slider end
01:07:465 (5) - I should add circle here, maybe just ctrl+c 01:07:149 (3) - this
01:22:465 (4) - volume 5% slider end

Kinda annoying mod cuz of 5% slider ends, but I think they fit better in those slow parts since they're kinda relaxing and give better feeling of song while playing it. Overall great diff in my opinion, it was pleasure :o

Insane:

01:03:517 (6,1) - slightly blanket but... fuck it?
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - maybe place the circles at end of every next slider?
00:18:044 (3,4) - I would prefer circle at white tick and triple with slider
01:18:991 (1) - volume 5% slider end
01:21:517 (4,5) - ^
01:30:360 (1) - nice one.

after all its fine for me.

Hard:

00:32:886 (3,4) - isnt it to close?
btw. Kiai should start here I think 00:57:517 (2) - same with NC as 00:57:202 (1) - should still be blue?
01:11:412 (5,6,7,8) - idk if it should be this way. its like slider but kinda fucked up xD
01:13:939 (6) - NC

619's Normal:

00:06:991 (1) - 2long? should be red tick I think?

nothing more here I think.

Easy:

00:03:202 (2) - red tick
00:04:149 (3) - and maybe here slider up to 00:04:465 (4) - instead of circle? (weird but why not)
00:59:728 (4) - circle?

After all good mapset, good quality and great song. I hope you can rank it soon, well done. waiting for m4m, gl hf! <3
Nowaie

NeBuSC2 wrote:

hey, m4m: (mod here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481088)

just some basic stuff I think, dont expect2much :C

Nowa's Flower:

00:08:254 (1,2) - I would slider it. Both notes would be considered equal as they have same stylish sound they are following at about same volume. 00:08:886 (3) - For example here instead the head is mapped to the much more powerful piano beat which has a small hold effect when the tail is mapped to a normal piano beat
00:17:570 (3,4) - ctrl+g the rhythm and change placement maybe? c: The rhythm is fine, the clickables are on the main piano beats which is the main (and most noticable) instrument
00:22:939 (3,4) - ctrl+g and remove 00:22:939 (3) - in my opinion you get better rhythm These two 00:23:096 - 00:23:254 - have to be mapped no matter what as the first one is the endpoint for "ee" sound and the other one is mapped to the start of the "na" sound. As i want these two to be mapped how you'd think that would work in your vision?
00:25:939 (1) - volume 5% the slider end? Fixed all of the sliderend things
00:27:202 (1,2) - just a suggestion: 00:27:202 (1) - up to blue tick, 00:27:517 (2) - move to white tick and make it longer until white tick and volume 5% slider end of first slider. What even is the logic behind this =.= What am i trying to fix? The pattern does not need changes like that, at all
00:29:412 (4) - short to red tick or 5% volume slider end
01:07:465 (5) - I should add circle here, maybe just ctrl+c 01:07:149 (3) - this What
01:22:465 (4) - volume 5% slider end

Kinda annoying mod cuz of 5% slider ends, but I think they fit better in those slow parts since they're kinda relaxing and give better feeling of song while playing it. Overall great diff in my opinion, it was pleasure :o

After all good mapset, good quality and great song. I hope you can rank it soon, well done. waiting for m4m, gl hf! <3
Thanks for moderino~


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Shiguma
Hey, here from my queue :D

General
619's Normal doesn't include the video, the other diffs do.

Easy
01:26:570 (4,1) - The intersection could be straight down the middle of 01:26:570 (4) -
00:06:991 (1) - Offscreen by a tiny bit
00:17:096 (1) - ^

619's Normal
As said earlier add the video

00:25:781 (3) - Should be a sound here I think

Hard
00:32:886 (3,4) - Very close blanket compared to other blankets
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - :o cool

Insane
00:08:254 (1,2,1) - Because of stacking this looks bad imo
00:16:149 (3,1) - Could stack these maybe
01:24:360 (3,4) - Could be blanketed better

Nowa's Flower
00:11:728 (3,1,2) - These have different timing gaps but I feel like it would look better with even distance from each other
00:56:096 (4) - loop at the end would look nicer if slightly bigger
01:30:360 (1) - The thing at the end goes up too much, would look better more round

That's all :P
Nowaie

Shiguma wrote:

Hey, here from my queue :D

Nowa's Flower
00:11:728 (3,1,2) - These have different timing gaps but I feel like it would look better with even distance from each other Do you mean by placement or timeline wise? I'll just assume that you mean by placement wise which is an issue i'm more than ready to fix.
00:56:096 (4) - loop at the end would look nicer if slightly bigger I want it to have a swirl effect, not a circlular end and it does work for my intentions quite well
01:30:360 (1) - The thing at the end goes up too much, would look better more round I'll try to create another swirl there. Let's see how it goes : )

That's all :P
Sankyu for mod~


Updaterino W
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ryza
m4m from #modhelp for u~ ;o posting for now, gonna edit as I finish more diffs and I'll let you know when I'm done done!

Easy
  1. I think this difficulty has quite a few rhythmic errors, so I'll mostly go over those. There's a lot of places where your sliders start on one sound but they end on a completely different sound and it feels very weird for the player.
  2. For the entire intro section, I would recommend remapping a bit and following the piano melody more closely. It feels nicer to play and it's still sparse enough for this difficulty.
  3. 00:03:202 (2) - should end 1/2 earlier on the red tick. if you do this either make it a reverse slider or add a note at 04:149. this way it's following the piano melody it starts on all the way through, instead of starting on the melody and ending on a bass note.
  4. 00:04:465 (1) - remove NC
  5. 00:05:728 (2) - same as above. end 1/2 earlier and make it a reverse slider.
  6. I was writing everything out and decided it was easier to just take a screenshot of what I would do for this intro instead lol http://puu.sh/rUVJD.png - try it out and listen to it! (this starts from the very beginning of the map)
  7. 00:18:360 (2) - maybe move this slider so the start is blanketed by 1?
  8. 00:20:886 (1) - don't really like this spinner. i would just replace the start of it with a note. there's a few different instruments here but none of them say "spin" to me lol. if you do this, make a slider from 22:149 - 23:096
  9. 00:24:991 (4) - NC
  10. 00:27:517 (1,2) - these might play better if you mapped them like this http://puu.sh/rUWjt.png
  11. 00:37:623 (1,2) - imo these should be mapped to the vocals same way as above. if not, 1 should definitely start at 37:623 instead
  12. 00:42:360 (1,2,3) - this rhythm is very very unintuitive. consider moving the 2 back 1/2 beat and the 3 back 1 beat to make it follow the vocals. that's what i want to do every time i play it. adjust spacing as necessary
  13. 00:44:886 (1) - i'd end 1 beat earlier and add a note
  14. 00:58:781 (3) - i think the position for this slider is ugly. like this? http://puu.sh/rUWwH.png
  15. 01:00:044 (1,2,3) - if you make the change above, you can copy the previous pattern and ctrl+> twice to make it look nice ;o
  16. 01:02:254 - The vocal here is WAY too strong to not have something clickable here.
  17. 01:03:833 (3) - this could blanket better
  18. 01:09:833 (4) - NC
  19. 01:11:412 (7) - make this a normal slider ending at 1:12:044, add a note at 1:12:360. remove 01:12:675 (1) -
  20. 01:17:728 (1) - rhythms here don't make any sense with the song. i would remap the next few seconds. suggestion: http://puu.sh/rUWP7.png (with the first note at 01:17:412)

619's Normal
Imo, this map needs a lot of polishing. I would recommend the mapper to go through it carefully and make sure every object is placed exactly where they think it should be to look best. Flow is fine and rhythms are fine, so I'll just point out a few things as examples. Feel free to call back for a re-check on this diff if you try your best to tidy it up and I'll go a bit more in depth.
Here are the examples:
  1. 00:02:886 (2) - this slider should line up with the next one
  2. 00:05:412 (3) - this note should line up with the previous slider
  3. 00:08:886 (4) - I think this would like nicer as a curved slider blanketing the end of (3)
  4. 00:15:044 (2) - this is just preference but this might look nicer curved the other way. play around with it.
  5. 00:15:991 (3) - NC
If you agree with some of these, then do a self-check on the map for more things like this and just neaten it up a bit.

Hard
  1. Overall not much to say about this one. Good job!
  2. 00:04:465 (1) - move the NC to the previous slider
  3. 00:18:202 (3,4) - consider moving these so the curve w/ the next slider looks nicer
  4. 00:22:781 (2,3) - this blanket can be improved
  5. 00:39:202 (4) - i would move this so it's lined up with the slider
  6. 00:39:833 (6) - NC
  7. 00:44:570 (1) - move this slightly further away from the previous slider
  8. 00:55:939 (7,8) - is there a reason these aren't spaced the same as the rest of the jumps? it plays rly bad
  9. 00:57:202 (9) - NC here imo
  10. 00:59:728 (8) - and here
  11. 01:02:254 (8) - and here
  12. 01:03:517 (4) - and here
  13. 01:21:833 (5) - nc here instead of that next slider
  14. 01:23:728 (1) - if you do that then NC here
  15. 01:25:307 (6) - extend to 1:25:939, add note on 1:26:254
  16. 01:32:886 (5) - move the very top point to 372,19 so that the end lines up with the start

Insane
  1. Might lower the HP a bit. If you aren't an exceptional spinner, the ending can kill you from around half hpish? idk I died here with dt lol
  2. 00:04:781 (2) - consider making this a jump instead of stacking it, 144,260 is a nice spot imo
  3. 00:05:728 (1,2,3) - consider changing this pattern to something like this? http://puu.sh/rUZSc.png
  4. 00:16:939 (7) - move to 284,185
  5. 00:17:096 (1) - stack on 00:15:991 (1) -
  6. 00:17:096 (1,2) - i like these more if they're curved a bit instead of straight
  7. 00:30:991 (1,2) - move these down a bit so they're lined up with the slider
  8. 00:34:149 (1) - i would move this a bit further from the previous slider
  9. 00:36:675 (1) - same
  10. 00:38:096 (2,3) - should find a different way to place these so they aren't stacked imo
  11. 00:43:939 (2) - i would make this a 1/2 slider instead of a jump because the loud bass drum is only the first 2 notes, and then add a note at 44:412
  12. 00:44:886 (1) - move this NC to the previous slider
  13. 00:49:939 (1) - move this NC to the next slider
  14. 00:57:202 (1,2,3,4,1) - I think the spacing on this stream is too low actually, and you should try to map it so slider curvers upwards instead of downwards (fits the music better)
  15. 01:00:044 (1) - move NC to previous slider
  16. 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - very nice :D
  17. 01:09:833 (4) - NC here and remove the next NC
  18. 01:10:781 (1) - remove NC
  19. 01:11:097 (2) - add NC and remove next NC

Nowa's Flower
  1. Solid diff with fun jumps and good flow. :) Still needs some polishing to be great tho
  2. 00:22:939 (3) - try moving to 241,74 to blanket better
  3. 00:24:044 (2) - 264,247 so it flows better with (4) in the previous combo
  4. 00:27:202 (1) - this is just personal preference but I think the rhythm you use in this combo and the next is too sparse, maybe try this and give it a listen? http://puu.sh/rUYml.png
  5. 00:29:412 (4) - no reason for this to be 3/4, just make it a normal 1/2 slider
  6. 00:30:675 (4) - make this just a normal note and stack it close to the next note
  7. 00:34:149 (2,3,1) - might seem nazi but these could be placed more carefully, (2) - [286,222], (3) - [308,118], (1) - [150,29]
  8. 00:34:781 (1) - remove nc, add it to the next slider
  9. 00:37:307 (1) - try make this a jump between 2 notes instead of a slider, it should accent the bass a lot better.
  10. 00:42:360 (1) - way too close to the previous slider. I would move it somewhere around 495,192
  11. 00:42:360 (1) - same as above, too close. I'd also try to keep this slider moving to the left instead of downwards to preserve flow: http://puu.sh/rUYJG.png
  12. 00:53:570 (5,6,1) - these aren't evenly lined up, try moving the slider to 489,34
  13. 00:54:991 (1) - try putting the second anchor point at 43,212 to make the angle look nicer
  14. 01:02:570 (1) - this is too close to the previous slider, separate them a bit. I'd also make this slider 1/1 instead of 1/2 and just make the next notes a triple. if you don't want to do that you can just make the slider into 2 notes instead, but I don't like this slider as it is
  15. 01:03:517 (6) - i think this should be a jump instead of a slider, and the nc should be here instead of the next slider
  16. 01:10:149 (1) - this NC should be on previous slider
  17. 01:19:465 (2) - this note is there but i don't think it's prominent enough to consider mapping it. remove
  18. 01:19:939 (4) - NC should be here instead
  19. 01:22:465 (1) - I would change the rhythm here to follow the piano more, like so: http://puu.sh/rUZ7P.png
  20. 01:27:044 (2) - remove this note imo
  21. 01:32:254 - probably need to add a note here
  22. 01:32:728 (4) - i would just make this two notes instead of a reverse slider that isn't following the music
Topic Starter
_Meep_

NeBuSC2 wrote:

hey, m4m: (mod here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/481088)

just some basic stuff I think, dont expect2much :C

Insane:

01:03:517 (6,1) - slightly blanket but... fuck it? Fixed
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - maybe place the circles at end of every next slider? I like to be a troll,along with that comes a greater impact the notes give onto the player as they go from stationary to a big jump.
00:18:044 (3,4) - I would prefer circle at white tick and triple with slider Nah, The wya it is, it flows pretty well by itself and represents the parts of th esong accordingly,so I dont think there are any problems with it
01:18:991 (1) - volume 5% slider end Fixed
01:21:517 (4,5) - ^ Fixed
01:30:360 (1) - nice one. thanks <3

after all its fine for me.

Hard:

00:32:886 (3,4) - isnt it to close? Fixed
btw. Kiai should start here I think 00:57:517 (2) - same with NC as 00:57:202 (1) - should still be blue? Fixed
01:11:412 (5,6,7,8) - idk if it should be this way. its like slider but kinda fucked up xD 01:13:939 (6) - NC Fixed

Easy:

00:03:202 (2) - red tick idk what you're pointing out XD
00:04:149 (3) - and maybe here slider up to 00:04:465 (4) - instead of circle? (weird but why not) You highlighted wrongly again XD
00:59:728 (4) - circle? No,its to follow the flow at 00:57:517 (1,2,3) -

Shiguma wrote:

Hey, here from my queue :D

General
619's Normal doesn't include the video, the other diffs do.

Easy
01:26:570 (4,1) - The intersection could be straight down the middle of 01:26:570 (4) -
00:06:991 (1) - Offscreen by a tiny bit Fixed
00:17:096 (1) - ^ Fixed

Hard
00:32:886 (3,4) - Very close blanket compared to other blankets Fixed
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - :o cool thx :o

Insane
00:08:254 (1,2,1) - Because of stacking this looks bad imo It plays well and doesn't look too bad tho >_> well I'll see about others' opinion on it
00:16:149 (3,1) - Could stack these maybe Fixed
01:24:360 (3,4) - Could be blanketed better Fixed

That's all :P
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After all good mapset, good quality and great song. I hope you can rank it soon, well done. waiting for m4m, gl hf! <3
Thanks for moddin <3
Nowaie

Silynn wrote:

m4m from #modhelp for u~ ;o

Nowa's Flower
  1. Solid diff with fun jumps and good flow. :) Still needs some polishing to be great tho Yup and that is why we need people like you, modders~
  2. 00:22:939 (3) - try moving to 241,74 to blanket better Done
  3. 00:24:044 (2) - 264,247 so it flows better with (4) in the previous combo They are different patterns and they don't really have to interact with each other. As these are supposed to be a pattern 00:22:939 (3,4,1) - (slidertail3|note4 with the slider1) and then these 00:23:412 (1,2,3) - for another one (circular flow over the sliders). I may be wrong but i don't think they have to be associated like that
  4. 00:27:202 (1) - this is just personal preference but I think the rhythm you use in this combo and the next is too sparse, maybe try this and give it a listen? http://puu.sh/rUYml.png I think the note placement in your example is too clutch when compared to the fact i'm trying to mainly follow vocals for that part and alternatively piano/any other noticable type of beat. I may fix something according to this if people keep nothing this out
  5. 00:29:412 (4) - no reason for this to be 3/4, just make it a normal 1/2 slider As i covered the fact where i follow the vocals but that slider is mapped to the "ki" sound which would continue to here 00:29:728 - but that has to be clickable due to the strong piano beat so the logical option is to make the slider 3/4 which is the reason i'm keeping it as one
  6. 00:30:675 (4) - make this just a normal note and stack it close to the next note I'm not so sure. I want the "ta" to be mapped and as that has sort of a hold effect i personally feels that it's better to have it as a slider
  7. 00:34:149 (2,3,1) - might seem nazi but these could be placed more carefully, (2) - [286,222], (3) - [308,118], (1) - [150,29] Yes they could be placed more carefully but those suggested spots ruin the patters compeletely as they are now. Though the 1 is bit off so i moved it bit towards the suggestion because it was off by a bit
  8. 00:34:781 (1) - remove nc, add it to the next slider Why? I consider that hitcircle to be mapped on the major beat starting new beat circulation
  9. 00:37:307 (1) - try make this a jump between 2 notes instead of a slider, it should accent the bass a lot better. Alright
  10. 00:42:360 (1) - way too close to the previous slider. I would move it somewhere around 495,192 Fixed
  11. 00:42:360 (1) - same as above, too close. I'd also try to keep this slider moving to the left instead of downwards to preserve flow: http://puu.sh/rUYJG.png Tbh that totally breaks the flow. The flow is snapped right now (and you hopefully know how that works because i'm not going to explain it here for you) but it's bit off right now which will be fixed. http://puu.sh/rVkO6/6ddf61d93f.png Here i have demonstrated the two main ways to use flow for sliders like that. (Red = Circular, Green = Snapped)
  12. 00:53:570 (5,6,1) - these aren't evenly lined up, try moving the slider to 489,34 They are evenly lined up because i have a way to insure that anytime. Also when you have the slider placed on that point you can see from this note 00:53:649 (6) - that the DS is not even
  13. 00:54:991 (1) - try putting the second anchor point at 43,212 to make the angle look nicer I may do this in the future but i don't really see it as a problem because it technically is part of the triangular pattern over these 00:54:991 (1,2,3) - notes (Slidertail1|Note2|Note3)
  14. 01:02:570 (1) - this is too close to the previous slider, separate them a bit. I'd also make this slider 1/1 instead of 1/2 and just make the next notes a triple. if you don't want to do that you can just make the slider into 2 notes instead, but I don't like this slider as it is Increased the DS but honestly "you disliking" the slider is not a reason to seperate it into two notes. And for the 1/1 slider suggestion this 01:02:728 - bass drum beat would be ignored which is never good. It can be mapped under a slidertail just fine and that is what i have done.
  15. 01:03:517 (6) - i think this should be a jump instead of a slider, and the nc should be here instead of the next slider I do not NC for more notable vocal lines. I always NC to the beat circulations/other major beats. About the jump i'm not sure because there is technically a hold sound but i don't know would it be that important after all. If someone else points this out i will most likely fix it
  16. 01:10:149 (1) - this NC should be on previous slider I do not NC for more notable vocal lines. I always NC to the beat circulations/other major beats
  17. 01:19:465 (2) - this note is there but i don't think it's prominent enough to consider mapping it. remove Removing that note leaves a compeletely notable note unmapped which would become "prominent" right after the note is removed
  18. 01:19:939 (4) - NC should be here instead I do not NC for more notable vocal lines. I always NC to the beat circulations/other major beats
  19. 01:22:465 (1) - I would change the rhythm here to follow the piano more, like so: http://puu.sh/rUZ7P.png I made some clickable changes that follow the way you represent the pattern in the example but i don't think using only hitcircles would be a good choice
  20. 01:27:044 (2) - remove this note imo Same reason as the "not prominent" note
  21. 01:32:254 - probably need to add a note here Done
  22. 01:32:728 (4) - i would just make this two notes instead of a reverse slider that isn't following the music There are few instruments that is actually following (guitar, the triangle kind of instrument which name i don't remember and the piano)

    Also where you even would place those two notes? Maybe answering this would help me to understand or debunk the suggestion
Thanks for moderino~


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Topic Starter
_Meep_

Silynn wrote:

m4m from #modhelp for u~ ;o posting for now, gonna edit as I finish more diffs and I'll let you know when I'm done done!

Easy
  1. I think this difficulty has quite a few rhythmic errors, so I'll mostly go over those. There's a lot of places where your sliders start on one sound but they end on a completely different sound and it feels very weird for the player.
  2. For the entire intro section, I would recommend remapping a bit and following the piano melody more closely. It feels nicer to play and it's still sparse enough for this difficulty.
  3. 00:03:202 (2) - should end 1/2 earlier on the red tick. if you do this either make it a reverse slider or add a note at 04:149. this way it's following the piano melody it starts on all the way through, instead of starting on the melody and ending on a bass note. True,though a reverse slider that are both 5/4 and 4/4 would not work since it doesn not fit the music, it played no part of the piano and acted as if it was its own. So I didn't bother and went straight for the 2/1 sliders,which would fit the general beat of the song. The notes may be a bit confusing,Im not too sure, however this is simply at the start of the song,the beat is really easy to understand and its easier since it's at the start, they could simply just restart,therefore I think this doesn't need a change. The repeat sliders you suggested would work really well in terms of rhythm,however it would get repetitive as the player would just move his cursor back and forth and it'd feel boring to him.
  4. 00:04:465 (1) - remove NC Fixed
  5. 00:05:728 (2) - same as above. end 1/2 earlier and make it a reverse slider. As I said above^
  6. I was writing everything out and decided it was easier to just take a screenshot of what I would do for this intro instead lol http://puu.sh/rUVJD.png - try it out and listen to it! (this starts from the very beginning of the map) All said above^
  7. 00:18:360 (2) - maybe move this slider so the start is blanketed by 1? Not exactly clear on which (1) you're talking about,there are some NCs in this part,so Im not too sure ;w;
  8. 00:20:886 (1) - don't really like this spinner. i would just replace the start of it with a note. there's a few different instruments here but none of them say "spin" to me lol. if you do this, make a slider from 22:149 - 23:096 All the other diffs have a spinner on them here at this exact part, though I can see why you're arguing that it doesn't fit for easy. The slider that you suggested wouldn't play well since there isn't really any shape that fits that part.
  9. 00:24:991 (4) - NC Fixed
  10. 00:27:517 (1,2) - these might play better if you mapped them like this http://puu.sh/rUWjt.png I tried the one you did and tried out certain variations as well. It may just be me, but I feel that mine fits better at this part, having the pause is pretty relaxing for an easy player,so I'd say this is ok.
  11. 00:37:623 (1,2) - imo these should be mapped to the vocals same way as above. if not, 1 should definitely start at 37:623 instead Not gona change these
  12. 00:42:360 (1,2,3) - this rhythm is very very unintuitive. consider moving the 2 back 1/2 beat and the 3 back 1 beat to make it follow the vocals. that's what i want to do every time i play it. adjust spacing as necessary I find this part ok, I doubt the players would
  13. 00:44:886 (1) - i'd end 1 beat earlier and add a note This plays pretty well as it is now, asked some beginners for testplays and they all said its fine
  14. 00:58:781 (3) - i think the position for this slider is ugly. like this? http://puu.sh/rUWwH.png Removed the slider to make for better flow and easier to tap
  15. 01:00:044 (1,2,3) - if you make the change above, you can copy the previous pattern and ctrl+> twice to make it look nice ;o Its a different part and the voices don't match the first repeat slider. The player would most likely follow the 'imaaaaa' sound,rather than the general beat of the song at this time, so I went ahead made slider+ note + slider to fit their taste more,if not it'd feel out of tune.
  16. 01:02:254 - The vocal here is WAY too strong to not have something clickable here. Newbies wouldn't know that there WOULD be a vocal there, and it'd feel out of the sudden for them,so I started it 1/2 a tick after.
  17. 01:03:833 (3) - this could blanket better Fixed
  18. 01:09:833 (4) - NC Fixed
  19. 01:11:412 (7) - make this a normal slider ending at 1:12:044, add a note at 1:12:360. remove 01:12:675 (1) - It'd be too harsh for the newbies to 'predict' that there would be a beat there. The fact that they have to listen in more on that part makes it tons of times harder for them, and it'd feel out of tune because they feel its too sudden. A repeat slider allows the newbies to cross this part well, even if they did not know the tune and part of the song,therefore I feel that reverse sliders are prominent in easy diffs.
  20. 01:17:728 (1) - rhythms here don't make any sense with the song. i would remap the next few seconds. suggestion: http://puu.sh/rUWP7.png (with the first note at 01:17:412)

Hard
  1. Overall not much to say about this one. Good job!
  2. 00:04:465 (1) - move the NC to the previous slider That slider is a continuation from the previous note and the next note(the current NCed one) is a new tune,so no
  3. 00:18:202 (3,4) - consider moving these so the curve w/ the next slider looks nicer Fixed
  4. 00:22:781 (2,3) - this blanket can be improved Fixed
  5. 00:39:202 (4) - i would move this so it's lined up with the slider Fixed
  6. 00:39:833 (6) - NC Fixed
  7. 00:44:570 (1) - move this slightly further away from the previous slider Fixed
  8. 00:55:939 (7,8) - is there a reason these aren't spaced the same as the rest of the jumps? it plays rly bad MAI GAWD READ DA PREVIOUS MODS XD
  9. 00:57:202 (9) - NC here imo
  10. 00:59:728 (8) - and here
  11. 01:02:254 (8) - and here
  12. 01:03:517 (4) - and here
  13. 01:21:833 (5) - nc here instead of that next slider
  14. 01:23:728 (1) - if you do that then NC here
  15. 01:25:307 (6) - extend to 1:25:939, add note on 1:26:254 vocals feel better this way
  16. 01:32:886 (5) - move the very top point to 372,19 so that the end lines up with the start Fixed

Re-Fixed some of the NCs
Insane
  1. Might lower the HP a bit. If you aren't an exceptional spinner, the ending can kill you from around half hpish? idk I died here with dt lol Im a meme,ofc 6.9 is needed
  2. 00:04:781 (2) - consider making this a jump instead of stacking it, 144,260 is a nice spot imo Its a pretty calm part of the song, I doubt players would expect something like this
  3. 00:05:728 (1,2,3) - consider changing this pattern to something like this? http://puu.sh/rUZSc.png Fixed
  4. 00:16:939 (7) - move to 284,185 Fixed
  5. 00:17:096 (1) - stack on 00:15:991 (1) - Fixed
  6. 00:17:096 (1,2) - i like these more if they're curved a bit instead of straight Fixed
  7. 00:30:991 (1,2) - move these down a bit so they're lined up with the slider Fixed
  8. 00:34:149 (1) - i would move this a bit further from the previous slider Plays fine since you dont see the overlap
  9. 00:36:675 (1) - same This plays pretty well by itself lol
  10. 00:38:096 (2,3) - should find a different way to place these so they aren't stacked imo Nah,plays fine
  11. 00:43:939 (2) - i would make this a 1/2 slider instead of a jump because the loud bass drum is only the first 2 notes, and then add a note at 44:412 Doesn't fit imo, The hitsounds make the drums pretty prominent and distinct,so its ok if its not a slider
  12. 00:44:886 (1) - move this NC to the previous slider The previous slider would be hard to hit if not for the followpoint
  13. 00:49:939 (1) - move this NC to the next slider Fixed
  14. 00:57:202 (1,2,3,4,1) - I think the spacing on this stream is too low actually, and you should try to map it so slider curvers upwards instead of downwards (fits the music better) If I were to space it further,there would be people saying its overmapped. With it being as close as it is now, players would barely have to move their mouse and they would only need to move in one direction. The spacing is due to the fact that this part is right after a spinner,which may cause players to lose aim ability afterwards.
  15. 01:00:044 (1) - move NC to previous slider Previous sliders were mapped to the piano,so this doesn't make sense.
  16. 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - very nice :D Thx
  17. 01:09:833 (4) - NC here and remove the next NC Fixed
  18. 01:10:781 (1) - remove NC Why? ;o
  19. 01:11:097 (2) - add NC and remove next NC And again,why?
Thanks for modding <3
619

Rumia- wrote:

[619]
00:06:991 (1) - it should end at previous red tick - ok fixed

NeBuSC2 wrote:

619's Normal:

00:06:991 (1) - 2long? should be red tick I think? - already fixed

Shiguma wrote:

619's Normal
As said earlier add the video - added

00:25:781 (3) - Should be a sound here I think - ok

Silynn wrote:

619's Normal
Imo, this map needs a lot of polishing. I would recommend the mapper to go through it carefully and make sure every object is placed exactly where they think it should be to look best. Flow is fine and rhythms are fine, so I'll just point out a few things as examples. Feel free to call back for a re-check on this diff if you try your best to tidy it up and I'll go a bit more in depth.
Here are the examples:
  1. 00:02:886 (2) - this slider should line up with the next one - already good for me
  2. 00:05:412 (3) - this note should line up with the previous slider - ok
  3. 00:08:886 (4) - I think this would like nicer as a curved slider blanketing the end of (3) - yea, maybe, why not?
  4. 00:15:044 (2) - this is just preference but this might look nicer curved the other way. play around with it. - ok
  5. 00:15:991 (3) - NC - fixed
If you agree with some of these, then do a self-check on the map for more things like this and just neaten it up a bit.

Thanks for the mods!


UPD

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domi1819
Chat mod with Meep

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17:01 domi1819: hi
17:01 domi1819: overall the map plays pretty well
17:01 _Meep_: sup
17:02 _Meep_: Oh you played it? :D
17:02 domi1819: and i have nothing mayor to complain about
17:02 domi1819: *major
17:02 domi1819: i did
17:02 domi1819: sooo
17:03 _Meep_: Can you send the the screenshot of your results screen on the insane play?
17:03 _Meep_: if you played insane,that is
17:03 domi1819: eeeh later maybe
17:03 _Meep_: XD kk
17:03 _Meep_: I add all my testplayers into a list in the map
17:03 domi1819: (side note: i'm not a fan of perfectly overlapping objects)
17:04 domi1819: 00:04:781 (2) -
17:04 domi1819: this circle feels super weird
17:04 _Meep_: Yea,This part,no one knows how to map it :/
17:04 domi1819: move the circle to the left?
17:04 domi1819: so it's in the middle of the gap
17:05 _Meep_: Hmm
17:05 _Meep_: It wouldn't look good since the pause makes it so close and awkward
17:05 domi1819: what pause do you mean?
17:06 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6414422
17:06 _Meep_: 00:05:096 - this pause
17:06 _Meep_: Is the change I made ok? It kind of plays to the piano more
17:07 domi1819: i'd leave your selected circle on top of that slider
17:07 domi1819: since there is a pause
17:08 domi1819: so waiting a bit with the cursor makes sense
17:08 _Meep_: Hmm,ok then
17:08 _Meep_: Changed
17:09 domi1819: http://up.domi1819.xyz/u/463379/pm8cmpu ... 17-9-7.png
17:09 domi1819: that's how it looks good to me
17:11 domi1819: 00:57:202 (1,2,3,4) -
17:11 domi1819: when i first played the map
17:11 domi1819: i thought these notes didn't have a hitsound at all
17:11 _Meep_: ye
17:11 _Meep_: Hmm
17:12 domi1819: maybe try bumping the section volumes slightly? but i don't think it's too much of a problem
17:13 domi1819: just something i noticed
17:13 _Meep_: Hmm,got it,will keep it in mind
17:14 domi1819: 01:23:886 (2) -
17:15 domi1819: and i think this slider "hides" a pretty strong sound
17:16 _Meep_: I was mapping to the vocals
17:16 _Meep_: I can see why you said it
17:16 _Meep_: inbetween the sliders there was a very very loud piano sound
17:16 _Meep_: but i think that kind of camouflages into the song by itself
17:17 domi1819: http://up.domi1819.xyz/u/463379/uy03to9 ... -17-16.png
17:18 domi1819: what do you think about shortening that slider?
17:19 _Meep_: Nah
17:19 _Meep_: I was mapping to the vocals
17:19 _Meep_: gotta keep to it
17:21 domi1819: alright
17:21 domi1819: and a last thing
17:21 _Meep_: Ima update
17:21 _Meep_: see whether you like some changes
17:21 domi1819: why ar 9.1
17:21 _Meep_: uh
17:21 _Meep_: because no one liked AR 9.2
17:21 _Meep_: so im a troll
17:21 domi1819: it's not especially fast
17:21 domi1819: nor especially note-dense
17:21 _Meep_: Im like 'why not just put 9.1 instead of 9'
17:22 _Meep_: not like it makes any changes XD
17:22 _Meep_: in terms of gameplay
17:22 domi1819: it does to some extent
17:22 _Meep_: I updated
17:23 _Meep_: check out some stuff
17:23 _Meep_: 00:04:465 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
17:23 _Meep_: 00:19:623 (1,1,2,3,1) -
17:23 _Meep_: 00:20:886 (1) - This note is now in the centre to mirror the exact last note of this song
17:27 domi1819: nice
17:27 domi1819: one could argue that the od is too high for an relatively easy insane
17:27 _Meep_: It aint easy for some
17:27 _Meep_: Some people say its hard,some people say its easy XD
17:27 _Meep_: not too sure
17:27 domi1819: it's easy for the amount of stars it has
17:27 _Meep_: Well
17:27 domi1819: but don't change it
17:28 domi1819: i like high od
17:28 _Meep_: I wanted it to be 4.69
17:28 _Meep_: lol
17:28 domi1819: farm farm
17:29 _Meep_: lele
17:29 _Meep_: this map is unfarmable
17:29 _Meep_: since the hard has jumps lol
17:29 _Meep_: despite being 3.29*
17:30 domi1819: awww
17:30 _Meep_: Well thanks for checkin out my map <3
17:30 domi1819: insane is only 150 pp
17:30 _Meep_: awww wut ;o
17:30 _Meep_: lolwat
17:30 _Meep_: rip farm
17:31 domi1819: too bad
17:31 domi1819: :p
17:34 domi1819: lol
17:34 domi1819: i failed
17:34 _Meep_: wut
17:34 _Meep_: D:
17:35 domi1819: i was trying to get a good play
17:35 domi1819: and failed
17:35 domi1819: because i can
17:37 _Meep_: lele
17:37 _Meep_: its hard
17:37 domi1819: nah
17:37 domi1819: i just suck
17:37 domi1819: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6414632
17:37 domi1819: there we go
17:37 _Meep_: yay
17:38 domi1819: for whatever reason you need that
17:38 _Meep_: to put u in 'testplayers'
17:38 domi1819: yay
17:38 domi1819: i guess
17:39 domi1819: now map a longer version with more streams and od9
17:39 _Meep_: LOL
17:39 _Meep_: Maybe I should
17:39 domi1819: pls
17:39 domi1819: i want pp
17:40 _Meep_: well
17:40 domi1819: :)
17:40 _Meep_: after I make my ClariSxGarnidelia song
17:41 domi1819: nah i'm fine
17:41 domi1819: map whatever you like
17:42 _Meep_: https://puu.sh/rTZwd/f2ff0de054.osz
17:42 _Meep_: wip
17:42 domi1819: since that's kinda the point of mapping
17:42 _Meep_: dont care that its part of a guy's diff
17:42 _Meep_: #lazytomakehisown
17:45 domi1819: okay
17:46 domi1819: that pause at about 40 seconds
17:46 domi1819: feels really weird
17:47 _Meep_: Well
17:47 _Meep_: There is nothing to map ther
17:47 _Meep_: If i were to add anything at the white tick,it'd feel off
17:48 domi1819: http://up.domi1819.xyz/u/463379/x1hi9dl ... -48-22.png
17:48 domi1819: how about something like this
17:49 domi1819: you don't have to actively hit something at the white tick
17:49 _Meep_: Hmm
17:49 _Meep_: true
17:49 _Meep_: Will consider
17:52 domi1819: do you have any fast maps?
17:52 domi1819: like 210ish bpm
17:52 _Meep_: Well,no
17:52 _Meep_: I dont map fast songs
17:52 _Meep_: XD
17:52 domi1819: aww
17:52 domi1819: okay
17:57 domi1819: oh well
17:57 domi1819: would you like a kudosu star?
17:58 _Meep_: Hmm
17:58 _Meep_: yes :D
17:59 domi1819: alright
17:59 domi1819: i had one spare for a random chat mod and didn't even know where to put it
17:59 _Meep_: XD
17:59 _Meep_: thanks
18:01 domi1819: while i'm at it
18:01 domi1819: i'll take a look at the other diffs too
18:02 domi1819: if you don't mind
18:02 _Meep_: Sure
18:02 domi1819: hard:
18:02 domi1819: 00:46:781 (6,7,8) -
18:02 domi1819: this feels "undermapped"
18:03 _Meep_: Hmm
18:03 domi1819: like
18:03 domi1819: there should be 1/2 notes
18:03 _Meep_: Well,its a pretty slow part in terms of tunes
18:04 _Meep_: 00:45:991 (5,6,7,8) - The flow change here is a bit weird as well
18:04 domi1819: how about
18:04 domi1819: not repeating that slider
18:04 domi1819: but instead
18:04 domi1819: putting 1/2 notes
18:05 domi1819: or 1/2 sliders
18:05 _Meep_: Hmm,sounds weird tbh
18:05 domi1819: or
18:05 domi1819: make the slider land on the next white tick
18:05 domi1819: (without repeats)
18:07 domi1819: also
18:07 domi1819: same for 00:49:307 (5,6,7) -
18:07 _Meep_: ??
18:08 domi1819: i'm missing at least one note there
18:09 _Meep_: Its made so that it can be sightread pretty well
18:09 _Meep_: I dont map to the point where players have to 'predict' the next notes
18:11 domi1819: i'm not talking about the placement
18:11 _Meep_: then? ;o
18:11 _Meep_: 00:49:307 - If I were to map the 'violin-like' sounds,it'd be overmapped imo
18:12 _Meep_: only thing I can do is a 3/4 slider,a note or a few reverses
18:12 domi1819: try placing a note at 49:781 or turn the previous note into a slider
18:12 _Meep_: I empty that part to give 00:49:939 (7) - more emphasis
18:12 _Meep_: It sounds more distinct and clear
18:13 domi1819: 00:49:307 (5) -
18:13 domi1819: this is the same sound as
18:13 domi1819: 00:49:623 (6) -
18:13 domi1819: actually wait
18:14 domi1819: i might have messed up the comobs
18:14 _Meep_: XD
18:14 domi1819: 00:48:991 (4) - okay so there's this slider here
18:15 domi1819: which could be a note, the end is not really important
18:15 _Meep_: 00:47:728 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Mostly mapped to vocals
18:15 _Meep_: 00:49:939 (7) - I felt that the next slider would be lonely,so added this
18:15 _Meep_: #logic
18:15 _Meep_: XD
18:16 domi1819: 00:49:623 (6) - so why not turn this one into a slider
18:16 _Meep_: 00:49:939 (7) - This wouldn't have as much emphasis without a pause
18:17 domi1819: 00:49:307 (5) -
18:17 domi1819: but this is a slider!
18:17 domi1819: why is this a slider then? :o
18:17 _Meep_: Fits the violin+vocals real well
18:18 domi1819: a slider would also fit 00:49:623 (6) - for the same reasons
18:19 domi1819: if it's only for the sake of emphasis
18:19 _Meep_: D:
18:19 _Meep_: Hmm
18:19 _Meep_: I see your point
18:19 domi1819: then put the following note slightly more downwards
18:19 domi1819: instead of literally ignoring the sound
18:21 domi1819: well, it's up to you
18:21 domi1819: 00:45:991 (5,6,7,8) - so, about that
18:21 _Meep_: Changed it
18:23 _Meep_: Not gona change it tho
18:23 domi1819: http://up.domi1819.xyz/u/463379/19xt9os ... -22-56.png
18:23 _Meep_: this
18:24 domi1819: i just think that the reverse slider doesn't fit at all
18:24 _Meep_: Hmm,the reverse slider kind of plays how 'deep' the drums go
18:24 _Meep_: idk how to explain
18:25 domi1819: i know what you mean
18:25 domi1819: but i think the other sounds overpower the base
18:25 domi1819: or whatever that is
18:26 _Meep_: HMm
18:26 domi1819: have you looked at the screenshot?
18:27 domi1819: (ignore the placement, it's just about the rythm)
18:27 _Meep_: Yea
18:27 _Meep_: I dont exactly dislike the rhythm
18:27 _Meep_: But I feel like I want to stick with the current one
18:32 _Meep_: Wanna mutual?
18:32 _Meep_: x3
18:32 domi1819: i thought i had already added you
18:32 _Meep_: XD
18:32 domi1819: well
18:32 domi1819: i did
18:32 _Meep_: I never added you XD
18:32 _Meep_: well I just did
18:35 domi1819: 01:22:465 (3) -
18:35 domi1819: this triggers me slightly
18:35 domi1819: since
18:36 _Meep_: should I make it a 3/4 and put a note on the big tick?
18:36 domi1819: the previous 2 sliders are mapped to the piano
18:36 domi1819: ...
18:36 domi1819: well
18:36 domi1819: idk
18:37 domi1819: starting from 1:22.781
18:37 domi1819: there are 4 strong piano sounds
18:37 domi1819: like the ones prior to that slider i marked
18:38 domi1819: what i have right now
18:38 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6415024
18:38 domi1819: is five 1/2 sliders
18:38 _Meep_: My timeline is on the big white tick
18:39 domi1819: yes
18:39 domi1819: this works great
18:40 domi1819: don't know what other folks might say about 3/4 sliders on hard though
18:40 _Meep_: XD
18:40 _Meep_: Yea
18:41 domi1819: i guess that's it for the hard
18:41 _Meep_: yay
18:41 domi1819: but ar8 for 3.2 stars?
18:41 domi1819: well
18:41 _Meep_: Lol
18:42 domi1819: i haven't played some hards in a while
18:42 _Meep_: Its pretty easy
18:42 _Meep_: so meh :/
18:42 domi1819: i know
18:42 domi1819: it *could* be 7.5ish
18:42 _Meep_: meh
18:42 domi1819: but eeeh whatever
18:42 _Meep_: who needs to give players leniency
18:42 _Meep_: XD
18:42 _Meep_: helps them get used to the AR anyway
18:44 domi1819: and it kinda compliments the bpm for dt :o
18:44 _Meep_: Well
18:44 _Meep_: jumps are hard in dt.. .-.
18:44 _Meep_: I was a hddt player
18:45 domi1819: your overall acc doesn't even look like dt farming
18:45 _Meep_: uh
18:45 _Meep_: thats thanks to my shitacc in both touchscreen and normal plays
18:45 _Meep_: lol
18:46 domi1819: i see
18:46 domi1819: your top scores
18:46 domi1819: wow
18:46 _Meep_: 252 was touchscreen
18:46 _Meep_: 234 was mouse
18:46 _Meep_: or was it 232
18:46 _Meep_: cant rmb
18:47 domi1819: i'm pretty thankful for having somewhat decent acc
18:48 domi1819: but boy i can't hit anything with my aiming skill
18:51 domi1819: more things to complain about
18:51 domi1819: yay
18:51 domi1819: 00:38:570 (2) -
18:51 domi1819: on easy
18:52 _Meep_: XD
18:52 _Meep_: ye
18:52 _Meep_: wat abt it
18:52 domi1819: that slider
18:52 domi1819: what
18:52 _Meep_: It fits the song,despite it being a 3/4 repeat
18:54 domi1819: okay
18:54 domi1819: if you say so
18:54 _Meep_: I asked quite a number of noobs
18:54 _Meep_: none of them had real problems with it
18:55 domi1819: i'm not saying that it will cause trouble
18:55 _Meep_: ??
18:55 domi1819: it just sounds off
18:55 _Meep_: As in rhythm wise
18:55 _Meep_: None of em really said much abt it
18:55 domi1819: i'm not complaining about any of the other 3/4 repeat sliders
18:55 *_Meep_ is watching [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100514 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT [Insane]] +Hidden +DoubleTime
18:55 _Meep_: lol
18:56 _Meep_: Well,most of ther 3/4 sliders are all repeats in easy
18:56 _Meep_: or all of them
18:56 domi1819: i know
18:56 domi1819: they all sound more or less fine
18:56 domi1819: imo
18:56 _Meep_: XD
18:58 domi1819: http://up.domi1819.xyz/u/463379/ljpzcgt ... -57-32.png
19:23 domi1819: how about posting this "mod" to the forum?
19:23 _Meep_: go ahead
19:23 _Meep_: xd
Contains a fair bit of noise, too lazy to remove, sorry :'c

@Nowa
Not much to complain about :)
00:21:360 (2) - should only be 3 repeats on 1/4. Currently, hitting 40 ms late causes a slider break despite the OD allowing that to be a 100. Also, there are only three tick sounds in the audio.
01:11:412 (1) (also 01:22:781 (1)) - are touching the previous slider while all other sliders after a 3/4 one are not. Intentional?
01:17:412 (1) - I see you are gradually increasing spacing on that stream but that last note (slider) is unproportionally far away and I don't notice anything in the song that justifies it (also the next slider is like super close).
zev
queue,
Hello, meep.

why normal-hitnormals ;_;
why overmap triples ;_;

[Insane]
00:05:254 (4) - can you unstack these like the 1/1 gap of 00:04:149 (3,1) - for consisteny?

00:13:781 (2) - dq this slider

00:15:833 (6) - you are missing an entire drum here on a downbeat.

00:19:623 (1,1,2,3) - I don't know whats going on but this is severely undermapped.

00:26:570 (2) - make it parrelel with 00:25:939 (1) -

00:41:412 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - remap this its bad.

00:43:781 (1,2,3,4) - doesn't fit use triangles.

00:44:254 (4) - why is there a whistle here

00:51:675 (2,4) - try not to overlap when you have the chance.

01:07:939 (2,4) - overlaps

01:14:886 (2,3,4,5,1) - angle into the stream is way to sharp

01:30:360 (1) - nice

info
  1. try to spread out objects evenly apart, spacing aesthetics my dude

[Nowa's Flower]
00:01:939 (1) - would place this in the middle so the start plays less rough

00:15:675 (6) - I would just go with a slider to differentiate the piano with the trumpet sound or whatever its called and choose a different angle, please.

00:21:360 (2) - no, these should just be clickable, make it a triple

00:29:728 (1) - spacing aesthetics is off

00:30:044 (2,3) - resnap the stack

00:30:991 (5) - please don't overmap on important parts, there's no point making a click here. make a 1/1 slider

00:40:781 (3,5) - try not to overlap when you have the chance.
00:46:149 (2,2) - ^
00:54:675 (5,3) - ^
00:58:623 (6,1) - there are two things so awkward/off in this section, the slider should be on (6) that's where vocals tend to change not on the downbeat,
and the flow goes a bit to inwards, try pointing sliders in the direction towards next circles for this part or somth
01:00:991 (4) - flow is a bit to linear due straight shape would curve
01:13:307 (1,1) - spacing aesthetics is off

01:16:623 (2,1) - nerf this jump, the stream will play smoother

01:17:175 (2) - not alligned

info:
  1. try listening to the song more when cycling with sliders and circles,
  2. instead of overmapping you should make inaudible sounds end on sliderends, it feels weird clicking something you can't hear unless it really fits


k, good luck with tht map, :lol:

oh and remap the easy diff, it uses way to different spacing variables, you can only use constant spacing, and those gaps are not readable,



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