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dNextGen

kaouji wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40017

#1 Zealot_Fenix (Previously known as hyt103)

can you make a video?
stop talking about hyt shit in this tread >_>
boss2626
hi, http://osu.ppy.sh/u/444347 in 3 days. he ranked on hard beatmap
strange and he join.
Aug 3, 2010
Aug 6, 2010
TKiller

boss2626 wrote:

hi, http://osu.ppy.sh/u/444347 in 3 days. he ranked on hard beatmap
strange and he join.
Aug 3, 2010
Aug 6, 2010
what a coincidence, I just've asked KRZY to check him :D

Ari-chan_old
Lol.

I have my reasons for multi. But okay, yes i'm this guy
boss2626
:D ok
Neruell
Well I just noticed something strange on this beatmap ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27035 " ) and something strange about "Ana_Coppola" on rank #28 ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/88717 " ). I don't want to say anything bad about the player, but it really looks weird, "S" rank with 0 miss but according to the replay when you watch it you see a definite miss, and not only once. I also don't think that if you manage to full combo this song with "S" you wouldn't be on such a low place like #28. Also the same thing happened with the other 2 players ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/198574 " ) and ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/56917 " ). I just think it's a bug but should be fixed....
ShanaTan

Neruell wrote:

Well I just noticed something strange on this beatmap ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27035 " ) and something strange about "Ana_Coppola" on rank #28 ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/88717 " ). I don't want to say anything bad about the player, but it really looks weird, "S" rank with 0 miss but according to the replay when you watch it you see a definite miss, and not only once. I also don't think that if you manage to full combo this song with "S" you wouldn't be on such a low place like #28. Also the same thing happened with the other 2 players ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/198574 " ) and ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/56917 " ). I just think it's a bug but should be fixed....
Uhm a S doesn't indicate that you get a full combo on regular osu!, it just shows that you managed to get 0 misses with a decent accuracy. I think that this is a case where they've managed to break their combo due to a slider break which means that the combo breaks but it doesn't count as a miss =P
Galkan

Ari-chan wrote:

Lol.

I have my reasons for multi. But okay, yes i'm this guy
Interests: SteRRum

I lol'd. You're just bored playing your old acc, aren't you?
Lemon Water_old
Atticus432's score is too high on this. You're score can't be this high on easy mode.

I'm not sure if he's cheating or if this is a glitch.

(Sorry for different sizes of the images. I was playing multiplayer on full screen 640x480 and window mode on solo 800x600 cause I was switching between osu! and my browser when writing this to check my facts.)



Teras

Lemon Water wrote:

Atticus432's score is too high on this. You're score can't be this high on easy mode.

I'm not sure if he's cheating or if this is a glitch.

(Sorry for different sizes of the images. I was playing multiplayer on full screen 640x480 and window mode on solo 800x600 cause I was switching between osu! and my browser when writing this to check my facts.)
He's pro ya know. UBER SPIIIIIIIIIIN

But yah. On a more serious note I've played with him before and have noticed the same thing.
Lunah_old

Lemon Water wrote:

Atticus432's score is too high on this. You're score can't be this high on easy mode.

I'm not sure if he's cheating or if this is a glitch.

(Sorry for different sizes of the images. I was playing multiplayer on full screen 640x480 and window mode on solo 800x600 cause I was switching between osu! and my browser when writing this to check my facts.)
in both screen are spun out, with spun out you can't spin, so maybe is a bug
Ari-chan_old

Galkan92 wrote:

Ari-chan wrote:

Lol.

I have my reasons for multi. But okay, yes i'm this guy
Interests: SteRRum

I lol'd. You're just bored playing your old acc, aren't you?
Oh yeah, baby
Neruell

Nekoo[] wrote:

Neruell wrote:

Well I just noticed something strange on this beatmap ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27035 " ) and something strange about "Ana_Coppola" on rank #28 ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/88717 " ). I don't want to say anything bad about the player, but it really looks weird, "S" rank with 0 miss but according to the replay when you watch it you see a definite miss, and not only once. I also don't think that if you manage to full combo this song with "S" you wouldn't be on such a low place like #28. Also the same thing happened with the other 2 players ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/198574 " ) and ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/56917 " ). I just think it's a bug but should be fixed....
Uhm a S doesn't indicate that you get a full combo on regular osu!, it just shows that you managed to get 0 misses with a decent accuracy. I think that this is a case where they've managed to break their combo due to a slider break which means that the combo breaks but it doesn't count as a miss =P

But then I don't understand how that slider break things is working because watching Lesjuh's replay same happened to him and compared to Ana he had that only once and not 2 time and his accuracy is much higher but still he got "A" and a miss and Ana not. It look like a bug, maybe it's not but then tell me how that slider no-miss break works.
ShanaTan

Neruell wrote:

But then I don't understand how that slider break things is working because watching Lesjuh's replay same happened to him and compared to Ana he had that only once and not 2 time and his accuracy is much higher but still he got "A" and a miss and Ana not. It look like a bug, maybe it's not but then tell me how that slider no-miss break works.
No Lesjuh missed a note which is diffirent from a slider break =P It's not a bug.
Lunah_old
Hello i'm here for report player Moneto

he use a cheat for flashlight / hidden, and he admitted to me and KRZY, here screenshoot :
(image deleted)

(This screen is real, you can be sure, i already make a video of the program, and i showed it to ephemeral)

i said to him if he helped me to find others cheaters, and he stops to cheat, i will not report him. But he is still cheating, so here some random records :

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/63499 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66395 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37430 ~ #2


This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)
fartownik

Lunah wrote:

Hello i'm here for report player Moneto

he use a cheat for flashlight / hidden, and he admitted to me and KRZY, here screenshoot :

SPOILER
[attachment=0:539a9]monetoscreen1.jpg[/attachment:539a9]

(This screen is real, you can be sure, i already make a video of the program, and i showed it to ephemeral)

i said to him if he helped me to find others cheaters, and he stops to cheat, i will not report him. But he is still cheating, so here some random records :

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/63499 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66395 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37430 ~ #2


This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)
I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.
maay
To be honest, using hidden + flashlight on insane songs with a mouse is already hard enough... let alone using a touch screen like Bikko, since you can't "search" for the notes as you do with a mouse. And he does some insane hidden + FL scores quite often.

I'm not accusing him as I lack proof and I'm not entirely sure myself whether he cheats or not... but such program would certainly explain his scores quite well. The same goes for lynch on scores like Last Remote and Lucent Wish.
Lunah_old

SuperMaay wrote:

To be honest, using hidden + flashlight on insane songs with a mouse is already hard enough... let alone using a touch screen like Bikko, since you can't "search" for the notes as you do with a mouse. And he does some insane hidden + FL scores quite often.

I'm not accusing him as I lack proof and I'm not entirely sure myself whether he cheats or not... but such program would certainly explain his scores quite well. The same goes for lynch on scores like Last Remote and Lucent Wish.
Hey man about Bikko, he already showed me all, he don't cheat, i'm pretty sure, he too help me to find cheaters ~ about LyNch you are right
Lybydose

SuperMaay wrote:

To be honest, using hidden + flashlight on insane songs with a mouse is already hard enough... let alone using a touch screen like Bikko, since you can't "search" for the notes as you do with a mouse. And he does some insane hidden + FL scores quite often.
Stop arguing this already.

Intermezzo wrote:

Bikko has already been spectated by peppy and proofed that he is not a cheater.
Please stop arguing about it in this thread.
dNextGen

fartownik wrote:

Lunah wrote:

Hello i'm here for report player Moneto

he use a cheat for flashlight / hidden, and he admitted to me and KRZY, here screenshoot :

SPOILER
[attachment=0:687d7]monetoscreen1.jpg[/attachment:687d7]

(This screen is real, you can be sure, i already make a video of the program, and i showed it to ephemeral)

i said to him if he helped me to find others cheaters, and he stops to cheat, i will not report him. But he is still cheating, so here some random records :

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/63499 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66395 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37430 ~ #2


This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)
I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.
ahh i just about to post that moneto guy >_>

hum,this is one of the moneto's records

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40563

#1
maay
Yeah, I had already read that post, its just that I had no idea on how someone could tell whether or not a player uses such program to play just by spectating. Oh, well. I'm sure peppy has his tricks.

Anyway, now that Lunah posted about a program like that, I think the number of cheaters in osu! will just increase. It just takes a min or two of googling to find it. Unfortunately, moneto gave too much details about the program, so censoring its name won't really do. You should have directly contacted an admin or w/e instead of posting here. >.>
Lunah_old

SuperMaay wrote:

Anyway, now that Lunah posted about a program like that, I think the number of cheaters in osu! will just increase. It just takes a min or two of googling to find it. Unfortunately, moneto gave too much details about the program, so censoring its name won't really do.
A man in staff already deleted it, btw

i hope Staff will wake up and make something, maybe for first, i think a "anticheat" built with osu is a good idea.
For second i think you you can "oblige", suspect players to make a free stream video .. that all is only for improve OSU (but this second is only for "pro players" with high suspects, (like hyt103, or lynch)

i mean if you have nothing to hide, why you should say no about streaming?

SuperMaay wrote:

You should have directly contacted an admin or w/e instead of posting here. >.>
Oh i already did that, not result :3
LirsRosso
Nightcore - Heaven is a Place on Earth
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454


same problem for #2
dNextGen
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/42705

#13

XiaoWei

Mod : None
Keksi

dNextGen wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/42705

#13

XiaoWei

Mod : None

Maybe Ultra spinner God xD
Rukario

dNextGen wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/42705

#13

XiaoWei

Mod : None
THIS must be some hack because, there is one spinner and he got 15000 bonus.
Well I tried it with no mods and got 16000 bonus and SS'd it. Though my score was only 30k.
So there must have been some cheat because his score right before the result screen is 29k although at the result screen are 35k points.
Case closed.
Lunah_old
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28422 #1

what? flashlight?
dNextGen

Lunah wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28422 #1

what? flashlight?
are you sure that he's using the cheat as well in that map

because #2 is Flashlight too

------

sorry for bad english
TKiller
red zone is easy to remember, having fast fingers is enough
Keksi

dNextGen wrote:

Lunah wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28422 #1

what? flashlight?
are you sure that he's using the cheat as well in that map

because #2 is Flashlight too

------

sorry for bad english


But hvick225(SnowWhite) is a old and good player . And i dont think that he used a cheat to FC it !
Lunah_old

dNextGen wrote:

are you sure that he's using the cheat as well in that map
because #2 is Flashlight too
sorry for bad english

TKiller wrote:

red zone is easy to remember, having fast fingers is enough
Oh problem isn't this map, but person, Hvick225 he is a old and pro player and did nothing for be suspected, LyNch yes .. i think last remote, was pretty cheated, maybe i'm wrong ~

i'm only adding songs to the list, i already asked peppy, he said : contact him when LyNch is online, so he can check, that is all for me .. i have nothing to add about him, we'll see, we need only wait
Keksi
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/463253

Really weird.

He/she had join today >_> .
dNextGen

Keksi wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/463253

Really weird.

He/she had join today >_> .

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/197547
Avfunny
Use a touch screen will make you like Auto?

I suspect it
Niva

Avfunny wrote:

Use a touch screen will make you like Auto?

I suspect it
No, if you see Bikko's replay, in touchscreen the cursor teleports, but in Auto the cursor moves normally as the mouse do.
Avfunny

Nivalis wrote:

Avfunny wrote:

Use a touch screen will make you like Auto?

I suspect it
No, if you see Bikko's replay, in touchscreen the cursor teleports, but in Auto the cursor moves normally as the mouse do.
However,there are other “human beings” can move like that?

Maybe many people have seen the Cyclone's touchscreen video

That is quite different
KRZY
Stop spawning multis already Litter <<<<

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
Galkan

KRZY wrote:

Stop spawning multis already Litter <<<<

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
I suggest making a big warning on his profile "READ IT. THAT PLAYER DO NOT CHEAT. CONFIRMED BY ADMIN." or somewhat.
dNextGen

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
Lulz

no need to do that just tell them to not discuss about Bikko anymore
KRZY

dNextGen wrote:

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
Lulz

no need to do that just tell them to not discuss about Bikko anymore

lol was only joking
dNextGen

KRZY wrote:

Stop spawning multis already Litter <<<<
wut ;_;

mind to explain it to me

about that Litter guy and his multi-acc
Glass

Avfunny wrote:

However,there are other “human beings” can move like that?

Maybe many people have seen the Cyclone's touchscreen video

That is quite different
Cyclone played on a Tablet PC using a pen, Bikko plays with his bare hands so the screen sensitivity is quite different.
taq
just one thing I dont understand. What is the relationship between touchscreen and flashlight mode?
dNextGen

qianantai3 wrote:

just one thing I dont understand. What is the relationship between touchscreen and flashlight mode?
just ask him directly

and stop arguing about it in this thread
Niva

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
At first I was shocked by this statement... I thought you were serious :P
I only used Bikko as a comparison to answer Avfunny's question, I know he is an excellent touchscreen player and he didn't cheat :P
Gomo Psivarh
I wonder why those obvious spinner hackers haven't get their accounts banned yet. >:(
Nilsso
Suspicious replay:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/29293
Difficulty: Genin
Rank9, player shannaro

Look at the spinner at the end, it stays consistant at 475-476RPMs.
Orkel

fartownik wrote:

I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.
Yeah, osu really needs an anticheat system :|
dvorak_old
Anti-cheat system is nonsense dream.
That will make osu as virus. Remind about warden by Blizzard.

also there are some easy and undetectable play-style that isn't intended.
I'm sure some of them will be treated as legal under peppy's suspection and streaming to Ustream with the hand/keyboard/osu itself.

If you want to play in the world without any such play-style, just wait osu! arcade.
Needless to say, arcade music game is good too.


Just enjoy osu! , it is time waste to care.
DeadRobots
Well I showed my friend that game and he tried it out, While playing he got the idea to plug in and use my tablet instead, You can get insane spinner bonuses this way. You don't need hacks. There aint nothing fishy about this camp Wiganishie.
Orkel

dvorak wrote:

Anti-cheat system is nonsense dream.
That will make osu as virus. Remind about warden by Blizzard.
lol, no. Something should be done about cheating and implementing something to detect them is the best way. As it is now, any ridiculously insane skill displayed has the possibility of being cheating. There are people in osu that have such ungodly playing skill that unless there's proof they're normal players I'll keep thinking them as cheaters.
dNextGen
anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh
Keksi

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

Yes , but if many peoples will support/donate osu! then we can buy it :)
maay
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/oknam

Joined: Aug 14, 2010
Last Visit: Aug 14, 2010

on the same day he joined, our little buddy DT'd this Lunatic (#13).
Galkan

SuperMaay wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/oknam

Joined: Aug 14, 2010
Last Visit: Aug 14, 2010

on the same day he joined, our little buddy DT'd this Lunatic (#13).
Propably this is someone else's other account. (Altough I stil don't understand why people are making those...only on cheat purpose? :3)
Niva

DeadRobots wrote:

Well I showed my friend that game and he tried it out, While playing he got the idea to plug in and use my tablet instead, You can get insane spinner bonuses this way. You don't need hacks. There aint nothing fishy about this camp Wiganishie.
That's tablet advantage. Yes, there are some players spinning insanely with their tablet, and this is (absolutely) not counted as hack.
Hakeru

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

Keksi wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

Yes , but if many peoples will support/donate osu! then we can buy it :)
but , if osu needs anti-cheat system / hackshield...

cheater wants to know about the hackshield , and they broke the hackshield and activate the cheat again ._.
1 banned = more player to register again
Orkel

Nivalis wrote:

DeadRobots wrote:

Well I showed my friend that game and he tried it out, While playing he got the idea to plug in and use my tablet instead, You can get insane spinner bonuses this way. You don't need hacks. There aint nothing fishy about this camp Wiganishie.
That's tablet advantage. Yes, there are some players spinning insanely with their tablet, and this is (absolutely) not counted as hack.
Really? I spin faster with my mouse (400+) than with my tablet (~350). Is there some secret tablet spinning style I'm not aware of?

Lunah wrote:

This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28422 #1 flashlight

Possibly.


dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh
Peppy could code something in himself, he knows his shit afterall, being the creator of Osu.
Niva

Orkel wrote:

Really? I spin faster with my mouse (400+) than with my tablet (~350). Is there some secret tablet spinning style I'm not aware of?
I myself never played osu! in tablet, but some players (i.e. Thssy, as KRZY said in this post), spins better and insane (it's possible, he's not cheating) on tablet. Some other players (including me) spins better with mouse.
Bass

Orkel wrote:

fartownik wrote:

I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.
Yeah, osu really needs an anticheat system :|

So, almost each game has a cheats, osu'll have to, unfortunately, my friend wrote osu FL/HR/DT hax but he doesn't used it on ranked maps luckily.

Also I'm 100% sure that, programmers on osu!, like strager or Ph0x has wrote already a osu! cheat - but this is for testing rather.
Louis Cyphre
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1
Taiko.
On this map:
1. there is no sliders
2. one spinner and beats

I do SS with same mods as 1st, why i'm not first?
Also TTTL HR+DT (my mods HR+FL) is second. But this guy make one 100. And he is first O_o
Cheat ._.
Mastodonio
A guy named Silver Flash - Joined: Aug 25, 2010
and he took my place here in catch the beat - http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15800&m=2
It is impossible to make here first place when you've just joined this game. And that is why I ask you to delete him
ShanaTan

Louis Cyphre wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1
Taiko.
On this map:
1. there is no sliders
2. one spinner and beats

I do SS with same mods as 1st, why i'm not first?
Also TTTL HR+DT (my mods HR+FL) is second. But this guy make one 100. And he is first O_o
Cheat ._.
lol, how can u expect to be first when you aren't even hitting the big notes? =P

Not sure if this can be the same as this http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=23023&m=1, I'm pretty sure I did a fullscore with HR (even played it twice and got the same score) and I still didn't get rank 1 on it.
dNextGen

_Giorgos_ wrote:

A guy named Silver Flash - Joined: Aug 25, 2010
and he took my place here in catch the beat - http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15800&m=2
It is impossible to make here first place when you've just joined this game. And that is why I ask you to delete him
im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb

you wont report this thing,eh
Louis Cyphre
lol, how can u expect to be first when you aren't even hitting the big notes? =P
What's mean "hitting the big notes"?
I did SS with same mods as 1st, but i'm not first, i'm not even 2nd, 3rd, 4th. And there is no sliders, only one spin.


im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb
you wont report this thing,eh
It is okey when cheater defeat you, of course. _Giorgos_ what do you want from us?
Mastodonio

dNextGen wrote:

_Giorgos_ wrote:

A guy named Silver Flash - Joined: Aug 25, 2010
and he took my place here in catch the beat - http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15800&m=2
It is impossible to make here first place when you've just joined this game. And that is why I ask you to delete him
im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb

you wont report this thing,eh
You think I watch how other players lose their places and who take them? I'm not interested in it. So,when I saw that this guy made it when he just joined the game,I've reported about it. If I will see such guys I will tell about it,don't worry.
dNextGen

Louis Cyphre wrote:

lol, how can u expect to be first when you aren't even hitting the big notes? =P
What's mean "hitting the big notes"?
I did SS with same mods as 1st, but i'm not first, i'm not even 2nd, 3rd, 4th. And there is no sliders, only one spin.


im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb
you wont report this thing,eh
It is okey when cheater defeat you, of course. _Giorgos_ what do you want from us?
lolwat

okay im outta here now

i dont want to say anything wrong
Louis Cyphre
okay im outta here now
i dont want to say anything wrong
I just wanna say that 1st place on approval/legendary map is not so easy. And of course _Giorgos_ try hard and cheater defeated him.
We would not say anything, if it was pro player or player who try hard too. It's offensively yes, but it is not legal too.
dNextGen

Louis Cyphre wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1
Taiko.
On this map:
1. there is no sliders
2. one spinner and beats

I do SS with same mods as 1st, why i'm not first?
Also TTTL HR+DT (my mods HR+FL) is second. But this guy make one 100. And he is first O_o
Cheat ._.


analyze the pic by yourself

HR + DT = 1,19 Multiply score
HR + FL = 1,19 Multiply score

and there is no 100 as you said, TTTL did that in 100% acc as you
Zeugziumy
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=24722&m=1

The first place of TAG4 taiko has 0 misses, on the replay, he misses much times
ShanaTan

gabrielwoj wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=24722&m=1

The first place of TAG4 taiko has 0 misses, on the replay, he misses much times
Probably just a broken replay, they're everywhere so =P

Louis Cyphre wrote:

I did SS with same mods as 1st, but i'm not first, i'm not even 2nd, 3rd, 4th. And there is no sliders, only one spin.
You get ALOT more points from hitting the big notes with both the buttons instead of just one =P
Zeugziumy

gabrielwoj wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=24722&m=1

The first place of TAG4 taiko has 0 misses, on the replay, he misses much times

Nekoo[] wrote:

Probably just a broken replay, they're everywhere so =P

Louis Cyphre wrote:

I did SS with same mods as 1st, but i'm not first, i'm not even 2nd, 3rd, 4th. And there is no sliders, only one spin.
You get ALOT more points from hitting the big notes with both the buttons instead of just one =P[/quote]


About this,
I got 3 100 at the lost woods, and did 1st place
But, I did the big notes, I think the "OnosakiHito" just did one of the big notes...
See please, I didn't used cheat, if need talk again with me, just talk, I'm free..
But I'm about to get better score, so will not be more stress with 3 100:


EDIT:
Now I got 2 100...
And see the scores:
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1
ShanaTan
I don't think ur cheating xD.

Here's the deal, or what I believe is how it works. Since Taiko is based on the standard osu!, HR makes spinners harder while DT makes spinners easier, that's why a full combo with HR+DT gives you as less score then a full combo with HR+FL so there's nothing wrong with the scores on http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1 =P
Zeugziumy

Nekoo[] wrote:

I don't think ur cheating xD.

Here's the deal, or what I believe is how it works. Since Taiko is based on the standard osu!, HR makes spinners harder while DT makes spinners easier, that's why a full combo with HR+DT gives you as less score then a full combo with HR+FL so there's nothing wrong with the scores on http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1 =P
So crazy!!! :)
Now I got it...
Double time is like with divide the number by 2...
And flashlight is the normal speed, so it's on the normal spinner number
Louis Cyphre
You get ALOT more points from hitting the big notes with both the buttons instead of just one =P
oh. I didn't know that. Well let's see

UPDATE

FUCK YEAH http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1 XDDDDD
Thanks Nekoo :3
Zeugziumy

Louis Cyphre wrote:

You get ALOT more points from hitting the big notes with both the buttons instead of just one =P
oh. I didn't know that. Well let's see

UPDATE

FUCK YEAH http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1 XDDDDD
Thanks Nekoo :3
Lol XD
I will beat ya when done SS :)
NatsumeRin
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/266250

so amazing he could HD+FL taiko mode only with tried only once or maybe twice, cheers.

you know what HD+FL in taiko mean..? you can't see anything. nice job bro.

dNextGen
nvm

now i know Cookiezi is chuck norris himself

ignore this post
kaouji

dNextGen wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/43765

#1

Hidden + DT :shock:

its a jumpy jump map
hope to have a live video
dNextGen

kaouji wrote:

hope to have a live video
ShanaTan

NatsumeRin wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/266250

so amazing he could HD+FL taiko mode only with tried only once or maybe twice, cheers.

you know what HD+FL in taiko mean..? you can't see anything. nice job bro.
Actually I was 100% sure he was cheating too but I didn't really have enough evidence, I'm glad that he decided to expose himself again. There is one more person that did the exact same thing but he isn't anymore so I'm wating for him to slip again before I report him =P

EDIT: I wouldn't throw accusations at Cookiezi if I were you, he is a crazy player =P
dNextGen

Nekoo[] wrote:

Actually I was 100% sure he was cheating too but I didn't really have enough evidence, I'm glad that he decided to expose himself again. There is one more person that did the exact same thing but he isn't anymore so I'm wating for him to slip again before I report him =P

EDIT: I wouldn't throw accusations at Cookiezi if I were you, he is a crazy player =P
im not saying that he's cheater

i know he's a super skilled crazy player

but Double time in jumpy jump jump map is ....
GladiOol

dNextGen wrote:

Nekoo[] wrote:

Actually I was 100% sure he was cheating too but I didn't really have enough evidence, I'm glad that he decided to expose himself again. There is one more person that did the exact same thing but he isn't anymore so I'm wating for him to slip again before I report him =P

EDIT: I wouldn't throw accusations at Cookiezi if I were you, he is a crazy player =P
im not saying that he's cheater

i know he's a super skilled crazy player

but Double time in jumpy jump jump map is ....
Those are VERY easy jumps I'd say.
On my first try I hit all those jumps with double time on (just not the 1/4).

Just those 1/4 aaaahhh! Hard xD
Orkel
Does Cookiezi have any proof that he's not a cheater? Stuff like, videos of him playing with his hands and the screen showing? That replay above is just.. ugh. Along with some other replays of his. Unless there's evidence then there's no way I can't think of him as a cheater.
dNextGen

Orkel wrote:

Does Cookiezi have any proof that he's not a cheater? Stuff like, videos of him playing with his hands and the screen showing? That replay above is just.. ugh. Along with some other replays of his. Unless there's evidence then there's no way I can't think of him as a cheater.
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dNextGen wrote:

nvm

now i know Cookiezi is chuck norris himself

ignore this post
Arctic Cress
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=1360&m=1

98-combo on a 78-beat song.
Replay shows only a 78 combo.
Zekira

NatsumeRin wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/266250

so amazing he could HD+FL taiko mode only with tried only once or maybe twice, cheers.

you know what HD+FL in taiko mean..? you can't see anything. nice job bro.
Yeah lol, it'd be insane if he actually memorizes all of those lol
dvorak_old
SPOILER
on Taiko, just make video of auto play (or with easy) of that song.
sync video and hid+fl+(hr) osu. just play with video.
or 2pc and at least one display, 1offline/auto , 1 fl/hid/(hr) online osu, sync both and play with automated osu.

This isn't intended, but won't be able to be detected as cheat , it will pass any kind of suspection even by peppy and replay data analysis.

Remove score multiplier about HR/Hid/FL from taiko, Hid/FL from osu , need to ask pro about ctb though.

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↑ just suggestion

any problem to remove multiplier from mod ?
It is time waste to find out legit , not intended , tool-assisted and tool.
I thought this is best solution for peppy.
Zekira
Removing a score multiplier from a mod? That's absurd;

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39076&m=1 -- I have honestly memorized the chart of Saitama for god knows how long.

In truth, there is no way to completely block out all loopholes for exploiting some of the mods, we can only lessen them.

We never know that some of these haxed replays may have been a result of actual memorization and was played fairly. Then again it is almost impossible to find the difference between a replay that was played with memorization and a replay that was played with an external visual gadget.

BUT, we can, however, detect those that are using 3rd-party programs to 'aid' them in these scores. Since this is actually a possible detection, it's feasible to purge those.

The mods were created to make things hard, and a score multiplier is a worthy reward for using such. The fact that one has to still resort to either memorization or an external visual device actually increases that difficulty already. It's a different case for third-party programs though, as basically you don't have to spend anything monetary and require less time to be able to achieve scores like that. In the case of having an external visual device, it's no different than the logic of one person having multiple Pokémon games of different versions having an advantage against those that only have 1 version.

I know many that have external visual devices, but I don't ditch them for that. Well, yeah maybe I get a bit mad, but not to the point that I find it eligible for reporting.

To be honest I have actually done this once: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=42796&m=1 . I got this score by simply looking at my DS Autoplay this song while I'm hitting the keyboard. But did you actually know until I told you this? It's basically almost impossible to tell, what can you do about it. Would you then conclude that I also look at another screen while playing Haya Saitama2000 and accuse me wrongly?

Point being: unless you can suggest some real way that we can differentiate players that memorized and players that are using external devices, I don't think it's feasible to do anything about it at the moment.
Orkel

dNextGen wrote:

Orkel wrote:

Does Cookiezi have any proof that he's not a cheater? Stuff like, videos of him playing with his hands and the screen showing? That replay above is just.. ugh. Along with some other replays of his. Unless there's evidence then there's no way I can't think of him as a cheater.
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dNextGen wrote:

nvm

now i know Cookiezi is chuck norris himself

ignore this post
If some less known player did the same feat as that dt+hidden replay, people would be bitching all over him. But it's cookiezi so everyone is just "oh he's just good" :/

Did you also redact your suspicions because of the "he's just good" peer pressure or did someone show you proof? If so, link me up. I'd be glad to have actual proof that he is "just" inhumanly skilled and not a cheater.
Glass
I'd like to see some proofs as well. I don't care how good he could be, DT+H(and still getting only 5 100s?) on maps like Lemon Tree just doesn't seem legit.

@dvorak:

removing FL/H score multipliers? are you kidding me lol, I know there are shitheads using 3rd party programs to get FL #1s but there are also those of us who spend hours to memorize a map (Lybydose's 700 Haru Haru plays, 300+ Wahrheit plays which doesn't even include all the attempts with spunout. also my 400 Starmine plays which I literally got within 6 hours of continuous play.). Memorization is time investment so we should be rewarded if we manage to pull it off.
Roddie

Orkel wrote:

If some less known player did the same feat as that dt+hidden replay, people would be bitching all over him. But it's cookiezi so everyone is just "oh he's just good" :/

Did you also redact your suspicions because of the "he's just good" peer pressure or did someone show you proof? If so, link me up. I'd be glad to have actual proof that he is "just" inhumanly skilled and not a cheater.

Glass wrote:

I'd like to see some proofs as well. I don't care how good he could be, DT+H(and still getting only 5 100s?) on maps like Lemon Tree just doesn't seem legit.
Yes, please. ._.
Lybydose

Glass wrote:

(Lybydose's 700 Haru Haru plays)
Hey half of those are DT + FL (and I still haven't done it...)
Glass
Thennn let's say you spent about 350 plays to FC it with FLH, which is still a lot of time consumed.
dNextGen
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/49206

#5

fuck yea there is no 100 or 50 just 1 random miss ._.


@Orkel

sorry, unfortunately i change my mind because "he's just a good player"

;_;
SilentWings_old
Why don't you guys just spectate Cookiezi if you think he is cheating?
Just request that he plays the song you think he cheated in and see if he can repeat his performance. I seriously do not understand why some people think other people cheat just because the accusers cannot do what the accused can do.

If you are that worried, why not ask him yourself and see if he can make a video instead of discussing it here where he probably never visit anyway?
dNextGen

SilentWings wrote:

Why don't you guys just spectate Cookiezi if you think he is cheating?
Just request that he plays the song you think he cheated in and see if he can repeat his performance. I seriously do not understand why some people think other people cheat just because the accusers cannot do what the accused can do.

If you are that worried, why not ask him yourself and see if he can make a video instead of discussing it here where he probably never visit anyway?
but 100 x 0 and 50 x 0 in the Kirby Mix diff isnt normal
Ari-chan_old
Why not?
SilentWings_old
Might as well accuse all the other top players as well since their plays aren't too normal for most people's standards.
dNextGen
i'm just sayin that his records in http://osu.ppy.sh/b/49206

is not normal because there is no 100 or 50

and we all know that Kirby map is hard as hell

if he can make video like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd_te50ZNdE

i will take my words back and apologize to him
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