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dNextGen

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
Lulz

no need to do that just tell them to not discuss about Bikko anymore
KRZY

dNextGen wrote:

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
Lulz

no need to do that just tell them to not discuss about Bikko anymore

lol was only joking
dNextGen

KRZY wrote:

Stop spawning multis already Litter <<<<
wut ;_;

mind to explain it to me

about that Litter guy and his multi-acc
Glass

Avfunny wrote:

However,there are other “human beings” can move like that?

Maybe many people have seen the Cyclone's touchscreen video

That is quite different
Cyclone played on a Tablet PC using a pen, Bikko plays with his bare hands so the screen sensitivity is quite different.
taq
just one thing I dont understand. What is the relationship between touchscreen and flashlight mode?
dNextGen

qianantai3 wrote:

just one thing I dont understand. What is the relationship between touchscreen and flashlight mode?
just ask him directly

and stop arguing about it in this thread
Niva

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
At first I was shocked by this statement... I thought you were serious :P
I only used Bikko as a comparison to answer Avfunny's question, I know he is an excellent touchscreen player and he didn't cheat :P
Gomo Psivarh
I wonder why those obvious spinner hackers haven't get their accounts banned yet. >:(
Nilsso
Suspicious replay:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/29293
Difficulty: Genin
Rank9, player shannaro

Look at the spinner at the end, it stays consistant at 475-476RPMs.
Orkel

fartownik wrote:

I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.
Yeah, osu really needs an anticheat system :|
dvorak_old
Anti-cheat system is nonsense dream.
That will make osu as virus. Remind about warden by Blizzard.

also there are some easy and undetectable play-style that isn't intended.
I'm sure some of them will be treated as legal under peppy's suspection and streaming to Ustream with the hand/keyboard/osu itself.

If you want to play in the world without any such play-style, just wait osu! arcade.
Needless to say, arcade music game is good too.


Just enjoy osu! , it is time waste to care.
DeadRobots
Well I showed my friend that game and he tried it out, While playing he got the idea to plug in and use my tablet instead, You can get insane spinner bonuses this way. You don't need hacks. There aint nothing fishy about this camp Wiganishie.
Orkel

dvorak wrote:

Anti-cheat system is nonsense dream.
That will make osu as virus. Remind about warden by Blizzard.
lol, no. Something should be done about cheating and implementing something to detect them is the best way. As it is now, any ridiculously insane skill displayed has the possibility of being cheating. There are people in osu that have such ungodly playing skill that unless there's proof they're normal players I'll keep thinking them as cheaters.
dNextGen
anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh
Keksi

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

Yes , but if many peoples will support/donate osu! then we can buy it :)
maay
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/oknam

Joined: Aug 14, 2010
Last Visit: Aug 14, 2010

on the same day he joined, our little buddy DT'd this Lunatic (#13).
Galkan

SuperMaay wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/oknam

Joined: Aug 14, 2010
Last Visit: Aug 14, 2010

on the same day he joined, our little buddy DT'd this Lunatic (#13).
Propably this is someone else's other account. (Altough I stil don't understand why people are making those...only on cheat purpose? :3)
Niva

DeadRobots wrote:

Well I showed my friend that game and he tried it out, While playing he got the idea to plug in and use my tablet instead, You can get insane spinner bonuses this way. You don't need hacks. There aint nothing fishy about this camp Wiganishie.
That's tablet advantage. Yes, there are some players spinning insanely with their tablet, and this is (absolutely) not counted as hack.
Hakeru

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

Keksi wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

Yes , but if many peoples will support/donate osu! then we can buy it :)
but , if osu needs anti-cheat system / hackshield...

cheater wants to know about the hackshield , and they broke the hackshield and activate the cheat again ._.
1 banned = more player to register again
Orkel

Nivalis wrote:

DeadRobots wrote:

Well I showed my friend that game and he tried it out, While playing he got the idea to plug in and use my tablet instead, You can get insane spinner bonuses this way. You don't need hacks. There aint nothing fishy about this camp Wiganishie.
That's tablet advantage. Yes, there are some players spinning insanely with their tablet, and this is (absolutely) not counted as hack.
Really? I spin faster with my mouse (400+) than with my tablet (~350). Is there some secret tablet spinning style I'm not aware of?

Lunah wrote:

This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28422 #1 flashlight

Possibly.


dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh
Peppy could code something in himself, he knows his shit afterall, being the creator of Osu.
Niva

Orkel wrote:

Really? I spin faster with my mouse (400+) than with my tablet (~350). Is there some secret tablet spinning style I'm not aware of?
I myself never played osu! in tablet, but some players (i.e. Thssy, as KRZY said in this post), spins better and insane (it's possible, he's not cheating) on tablet. Some other players (including me) spins better with mouse.
Bass

Orkel wrote:

fartownik wrote:

I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.
Yeah, osu really needs an anticheat system :|

So, almost each game has a cheats, osu'll have to, unfortunately, my friend wrote osu FL/HR/DT hax but he doesn't used it on ranked maps luckily.

Also I'm 100% sure that, programmers on osu!, like strager or Ph0x has wrote already a osu! cheat - but this is for testing rather.
Louis Cyphre
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1
Taiko.
On this map:
1. there is no sliders
2. one spinner and beats

I do SS with same mods as 1st, why i'm not first?
Also TTTL HR+DT (my mods HR+FL) is second. But this guy make one 100. And he is first O_o
Cheat ._.
Mastodonio
A guy named Silver Flash - Joined: Aug 25, 2010
and he took my place here in catch the beat - http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15800&m=2
It is impossible to make here first place when you've just joined this game. And that is why I ask you to delete him
ShanaTan

Louis Cyphre wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1
Taiko.
On this map:
1. there is no sliders
2. one spinner and beats

I do SS with same mods as 1st, why i'm not first?
Also TTTL HR+DT (my mods HR+FL) is second. But this guy make one 100. And he is first O_o
Cheat ._.
lol, how can u expect to be first when you aren't even hitting the big notes? =P

Not sure if this can be the same as this http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=23023&m=1, I'm pretty sure I did a fullscore with HR (even played it twice and got the same score) and I still didn't get rank 1 on it.
dNextGen

_Giorgos_ wrote:

A guy named Silver Flash - Joined: Aug 25, 2010
and he took my place here in catch the beat - http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15800&m=2
It is impossible to make here first place when you've just joined this game. And that is why I ask you to delete him
im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb

you wont report this thing,eh
Louis Cyphre
lol, how can u expect to be first when you aren't even hitting the big notes? =P
What's mean "hitting the big notes"?
I did SS with same mods as 1st, but i'm not first, i'm not even 2nd, 3rd, 4th. And there is no sliders, only one spin.


im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb
you wont report this thing,eh
It is okey when cheater defeat you, of course. _Giorgos_ what do you want from us?
Mastodonio

dNextGen wrote:

_Giorgos_ wrote:

A guy named Silver Flash - Joined: Aug 25, 2010
and he took my place here in catch the beat - http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15800&m=2
It is impossible to make here first place when you've just joined this game. And that is why I ask you to delete him
im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb

you wont report this thing,eh
You think I watch how other players lose their places and who take them? I'm not interested in it. So,when I saw that this guy made it when he just joined the game,I've reported about it. If I will see such guys I will tell about it,don't worry.
dNextGen

Louis Cyphre wrote:

lol, how can u expect to be first when you aren't even hitting the big notes? =P
What's mean "hitting the big notes"?
I did SS with same mods as 1st, but i'm not first, i'm not even 2nd, 3rd, 4th. And there is no sliders, only one spin.


im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb
you wont report this thing,eh
It is okey when cheater defeat you, of course. _Giorgos_ what do you want from us?
lolwat

okay im outta here now

i dont want to say anything wrong
Louis Cyphre
okay im outta here now
i dont want to say anything wrong
I just wanna say that 1st place on approval/legendary map is not so easy. And of course _Giorgos_ try hard and cheater defeated him.
We would not say anything, if it was pro player or player who try hard too. It's offensively yes, but it is not legal too.
dNextGen

Louis Cyphre wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1
Taiko.
On this map:
1. there is no sliders
2. one spinner and beats

I do SS with same mods as 1st, why i'm not first?
Also TTTL HR+DT (my mods HR+FL) is second. But this guy make one 100. And he is first O_o
Cheat ._.


analyze the pic by yourself

HR + DT = 1,19 Multiply score
HR + FL = 1,19 Multiply score

and there is no 100 as you said, TTTL did that in 100% acc as you
Zeugziumy
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=24722&m=1

The first place of TAG4 taiko has 0 misses, on the replay, he misses much times
ShanaTan

gabrielwoj wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=24722&m=1

The first place of TAG4 taiko has 0 misses, on the replay, he misses much times
Probably just a broken replay, they're everywhere so =P

Louis Cyphre wrote:

I did SS with same mods as 1st, but i'm not first, i'm not even 2nd, 3rd, 4th. And there is no sliders, only one spin.
You get ALOT more points from hitting the big notes with both the buttons instead of just one =P
Zeugziumy

gabrielwoj wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=24722&m=1

The first place of TAG4 taiko has 0 misses, on the replay, he misses much times

Nekoo[] wrote:

Probably just a broken replay, they're everywhere so =P

Louis Cyphre wrote:

I did SS with same mods as 1st, but i'm not first, i'm not even 2nd, 3rd, 4th. And there is no sliders, only one spin.
You get ALOT more points from hitting the big notes with both the buttons instead of just one =P[/quote]


About this,
I got 3 100 at the lost woods, and did 1st place
But, I did the big notes, I think the "OnosakiHito" just did one of the big notes...
See please, I didn't used cheat, if need talk again with me, just talk, I'm free..
But I'm about to get better score, so will not be more stress with 3 100:


EDIT:
Now I got 2 100...
And see the scores:
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1
ShanaTan
I don't think ur cheating xD.

Here's the deal, or what I believe is how it works. Since Taiko is based on the standard osu!, HR makes spinners harder while DT makes spinners easier, that's why a full combo with HR+DT gives you as less score then a full combo with HR+FL so there's nothing wrong with the scores on http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1 =P
Zeugziumy

Nekoo[] wrote:

I don't think ur cheating xD.

Here's the deal, or what I believe is how it works. Since Taiko is based on the standard osu!, HR makes spinners harder while DT makes spinners easier, that's why a full combo with HR+DT gives you as less score then a full combo with HR+FL so there's nothing wrong with the scores on http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1 =P
So crazy!!! :)
Now I got it...
Double time is like with divide the number by 2...
And flashlight is the normal speed, so it's on the normal spinner number
Louis Cyphre
You get ALOT more points from hitting the big notes with both the buttons instead of just one =P
oh. I didn't know that. Well let's see

UPDATE

FUCK YEAH http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1 XDDDDD
Thanks Nekoo :3
Zeugziumy

Louis Cyphre wrote:

You get ALOT more points from hitting the big notes with both the buttons instead of just one =P
oh. I didn't know that. Well let's see

UPDATE

FUCK YEAH http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1 XDDDDD
Thanks Nekoo :3
Lol XD
I will beat ya when done SS :)
NatsumeRin
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/266250

so amazing he could HD+FL taiko mode only with tried only once or maybe twice, cheers.

you know what HD+FL in taiko mean..? you can't see anything. nice job bro.

dNextGen
nvm

now i know Cookiezi is chuck norris himself

ignore this post
kaouji

dNextGen wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/43765

#1

Hidden + DT :shock:

its a jumpy jump map
hope to have a live video
dNextGen

kaouji wrote:

hope to have a live video
ShanaTan

NatsumeRin wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/266250

so amazing he could HD+FL taiko mode only with tried only once or maybe twice, cheers.

you know what HD+FL in taiko mean..? you can't see anything. nice job bro.
Actually I was 100% sure he was cheating too but I didn't really have enough evidence, I'm glad that he decided to expose himself again. There is one more person that did the exact same thing but he isn't anymore so I'm wating for him to slip again before I report him =P

EDIT: I wouldn't throw accusations at Cookiezi if I were you, he is a crazy player =P
dNextGen

Nekoo[] wrote:

Actually I was 100% sure he was cheating too but I didn't really have enough evidence, I'm glad that he decided to expose himself again. There is one more person that did the exact same thing but he isn't anymore so I'm wating for him to slip again before I report him =P

EDIT: I wouldn't throw accusations at Cookiezi if I were you, he is a crazy player =P
im not saying that he's cheater

i know he's a super skilled crazy player

but Double time in jumpy jump jump map is ....
GladiOol

dNextGen wrote:

Nekoo[] wrote:

Actually I was 100% sure he was cheating too but I didn't really have enough evidence, I'm glad that he decided to expose himself again. There is one more person that did the exact same thing but he isn't anymore so I'm wating for him to slip again before I report him =P

EDIT: I wouldn't throw accusations at Cookiezi if I were you, he is a crazy player =P
im not saying that he's cheater

i know he's a super skilled crazy player

but Double time in jumpy jump jump map is ....
Those are VERY easy jumps I'd say.
On my first try I hit all those jumps with double time on (just not the 1/4).

Just those 1/4 aaaahhh! Hard xD
Orkel
Does Cookiezi have any proof that he's not a cheater? Stuff like, videos of him playing with his hands and the screen showing? That replay above is just.. ugh. Along with some other replays of his. Unless there's evidence then there's no way I can't think of him as a cheater.
dNextGen

Orkel wrote:

Does Cookiezi have any proof that he's not a cheater? Stuff like, videos of him playing with his hands and the screen showing? That replay above is just.. ugh. Along with some other replays of his. Unless there's evidence then there's no way I can't think of him as a cheater.
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dNextGen wrote:

nvm

now i know Cookiezi is chuck norris himself

ignore this post
Arctic Cress
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=1360&m=1

98-combo on a 78-beat song.
Replay shows only a 78 combo.
Zekira

NatsumeRin wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/266250

so amazing he could HD+FL taiko mode only with tried only once or maybe twice, cheers.

you know what HD+FL in taiko mean..? you can't see anything. nice job bro.
Yeah lol, it'd be insane if he actually memorizes all of those lol
dvorak_old
SPOILER
on Taiko, just make video of auto play (or with easy) of that song.
sync video and hid+fl+(hr) osu. just play with video.
or 2pc and at least one display, 1offline/auto , 1 fl/hid/(hr) online osu, sync both and play with automated osu.

This isn't intended, but won't be able to be detected as cheat , it will pass any kind of suspection even by peppy and replay data analysis.

Remove score multiplier about HR/Hid/FL from taiko, Hid/FL from osu , need to ask pro about ctb though.

----------

↑ just suggestion

any problem to remove multiplier from mod ?
It is time waste to find out legit , not intended , tool-assisted and tool.
I thought this is best solution for peppy.
Zekira
Removing a score multiplier from a mod? That's absurd;

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39076&m=1 -- I have honestly memorized the chart of Saitama for god knows how long.

In truth, there is no way to completely block out all loopholes for exploiting some of the mods, we can only lessen them.

We never know that some of these haxed replays may have been a result of actual memorization and was played fairly. Then again it is almost impossible to find the difference between a replay that was played with memorization and a replay that was played with an external visual gadget.

BUT, we can, however, detect those that are using 3rd-party programs to 'aid' them in these scores. Since this is actually a possible detection, it's feasible to purge those.

The mods were created to make things hard, and a score multiplier is a worthy reward for using such. The fact that one has to still resort to either memorization or an external visual device actually increases that difficulty already. It's a different case for third-party programs though, as basically you don't have to spend anything monetary and require less time to be able to achieve scores like that. In the case of having an external visual device, it's no different than the logic of one person having multiple Pokémon games of different versions having an advantage against those that only have 1 version.

I know many that have external visual devices, but I don't ditch them for that. Well, yeah maybe I get a bit mad, but not to the point that I find it eligible for reporting.

To be honest I have actually done this once: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=42796&m=1 . I got this score by simply looking at my DS Autoplay this song while I'm hitting the keyboard. But did you actually know until I told you this? It's basically almost impossible to tell, what can you do about it. Would you then conclude that I also look at another screen while playing Haya Saitama2000 and accuse me wrongly?

Point being: unless you can suggest some real way that we can differentiate players that memorized and players that are using external devices, I don't think it's feasible to do anything about it at the moment.
Orkel

dNextGen wrote:

Orkel wrote:

Does Cookiezi have any proof that he's not a cheater? Stuff like, videos of him playing with his hands and the screen showing? That replay above is just.. ugh. Along with some other replays of his. Unless there's evidence then there's no way I can't think of him as a cheater.
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dNextGen wrote:

nvm

now i know Cookiezi is chuck norris himself

ignore this post
If some less known player did the same feat as that dt+hidden replay, people would be bitching all over him. But it's cookiezi so everyone is just "oh he's just good" :/

Did you also redact your suspicions because of the "he's just good" peer pressure or did someone show you proof? If so, link me up. I'd be glad to have actual proof that he is "just" inhumanly skilled and not a cheater.
Glass
I'd like to see some proofs as well. I don't care how good he could be, DT+H(and still getting only 5 100s?) on maps like Lemon Tree just doesn't seem legit.

@dvorak:

removing FL/H score multipliers? are you kidding me lol, I know there are shitheads using 3rd party programs to get FL #1s but there are also those of us who spend hours to memorize a map (Lybydose's 700 Haru Haru plays, 300+ Wahrheit plays which doesn't even include all the attempts with spunout. also my 400 Starmine plays which I literally got within 6 hours of continuous play.). Memorization is time investment so we should be rewarded if we manage to pull it off.
Roddie

Orkel wrote:

If some less known player did the same feat as that dt+hidden replay, people would be bitching all over him. But it's cookiezi so everyone is just "oh he's just good" :/

Did you also redact your suspicions because of the "he's just good" peer pressure or did someone show you proof? If so, link me up. I'd be glad to have actual proof that he is "just" inhumanly skilled and not a cheater.

Glass wrote:

I'd like to see some proofs as well. I don't care how good he could be, DT+H(and still getting only 5 100s?) on maps like Lemon Tree just doesn't seem legit.
Yes, please. ._.
Lybydose

Glass wrote:

(Lybydose's 700 Haru Haru plays)
Hey half of those are DT + FL (and I still haven't done it...)
Glass
Thennn let's say you spent about 350 plays to FC it with FLH, which is still a lot of time consumed.
dNextGen
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/49206

#5

fuck yea there is no 100 or 50 just 1 random miss ._.


@Orkel

sorry, unfortunately i change my mind because "he's just a good player"

;_;
SilentWings_old
Why don't you guys just spectate Cookiezi if you think he is cheating?
Just request that he plays the song you think he cheated in and see if he can repeat his performance. I seriously do not understand why some people think other people cheat just because the accusers cannot do what the accused can do.

If you are that worried, why not ask him yourself and see if he can make a video instead of discussing it here where he probably never visit anyway?
dNextGen

SilentWings wrote:

Why don't you guys just spectate Cookiezi if you think he is cheating?
Just request that he plays the song you think he cheated in and see if he can repeat his performance. I seriously do not understand why some people think other people cheat just because the accusers cannot do what the accused can do.

If you are that worried, why not ask him yourself and see if he can make a video instead of discussing it here where he probably never visit anyway?
but 100 x 0 and 50 x 0 in the Kirby Mix diff isnt normal
Ari-chan_old
Why not?
SilentWings_old
Might as well accuse all the other top players as well since their plays aren't too normal for most people's standards.
dNextGen
i'm just sayin that his records in http://osu.ppy.sh/b/49206

is not normal because there is no 100 or 50

and we all know that Kirby map is hard as hell

if he can make video like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd_te50ZNdE

i will take my words back and apologize to him
Ari-chan_old


And this is normal? Ok.
dNextGen

Ari-chan wrote:



And this is normal? Ok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd_te50ZNdE

i think Lesjuh has proven himself with that vid
SilentWings_old
Do you seriously think that the map Lesjuh played in the video is the same calibur as the kirbymix?
The difficulty difference is huge. Thus, making a video of a play on a much easier song proves nothing.

Just go spectate Cookiezi sometime and you will see just how skilled he is.
ShanaTan
This on the other hand looks quite weird...
YEAA right....

dNextGen

SilentWings wrote:

Do you seriously think that the map Lesjuh played in the video is the same calibur as the kirbymix?
The difficulty difference is huge. Thus, making a video of a play on a much easier song proves nothing.

Just go spectate Cookiezi sometime and you will see just how skilled he is.
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Orkel wrote:

If some less known player did the same feat as that dt+hidden replay, people would be bitching all over him. But it's cookiezi so everyone is just "oh he's just good" :/
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http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10978
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11426

just tell him to make vid playing these maps

if he can make vid like Bikko ,i'll take my words back
SUPERMarIOwii
hi,
I found a boring guy...
Lunah_old
Guys stop accusing Cookiezi, bikko, and others this is last inform .. go to reporto real cheaters, not pro players

Peppy knows they don't cheat, so you need stop ..
Zekira

SilentWings wrote:

Do you seriously think that the map Lesjuh played in the video is the same calibur as the kirbymix?
The difficulty difference is huge. Thus, making a video of a play on a much easier song proves nothing.

Just go spectate Cookiezi sometime and you will see just how skilled he is.
Guys, I'd like to note that SilentWings speaks clarity here,
for he himself is a player of lolwtfinsane maps and can actually pass them.
Ari-chan_old

dNextGen wrote:

SilentWings wrote:

Do you seriously think that the map Lesjuh played in the video is the same calibur as the kirbymix?
The difficulty difference is huge. Thus, making a video of a play on a much easier song proves nothing.

Just go spectate Cookiezi sometime and you will see just how skilled he is.
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Orkel wrote:

If some less known player did the same feat as that dt+hidden replay, people would be bitching all over him. But it's cookiezi so everyone is just "oh he's just good" :/
Tell me if Cookiezi isn't good.
dNextGen

Ari-chan wrote:

Tell me if Cookiezi isn't good.
you missed the point bro

read Orkel's post carefully
Lunah_old
So, open your eyes, he is the best player .. :P
dNextGen

Lunah wrote:

So, open your eyes, he is the best player .. :P
maybe the DT + hidden records is legit

but 100 x 0 and 50 x 0 in Kirby map still stuck in my head
Ari-chan_old

dNextGen wrote:

Lunah wrote:

So, open your eyes, he is the best player .. :P
maybe the DT + hidden records is legit

but 100 x 0 and 50 x 0 in Kirby map still stuck in my head
You can't prove he is a cheater, we can't prove that he isn't.


I think you need something really convincing to prove that madskillz player is cheating.
Rukario
BTW all the people who suggest spectating, well thats a dumb idea.
Because even IF he is cheating you can't see it while spectating.
Not saying that he is but yeah that was my opinion now all please calm down about Cookiezi.
Orkel

Ari-chan wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

maybe the DT + hidden records is legit

but 100 x 0 and 50 x 0 in Kirby map still stuck in my head
You can't prove he is a cheater, we can't prove that he isn't.


I think you need something really convincing to prove that madskillz player is cheating.
Haha, indeed, but strong suspicions can only be removed with proof. I can't be certain, but I sure can accuse or suspect based on the replays that I've seen.


Lunah wrote:

Guys stop accusing Cookiezi, bikko, and others this is last inform .. go to reporto real cheaters, not pro players

Peppy knows they don't cheat, so you need stop ..
And he knows that how? That is the proof I'm looking for.
Peppy knows Bikko doesn't cheat because Bikko uses touchscreen. He is a good player and there is the proof.
Peppy knows Cookiezi doesn't cheat, because..? What was he shown that convinced him? Show it to us aswell.
Zekira
Peppy knows Cookiezi doesn't cheat, because..? What was he shown that convinced him? Show it to us aswell.
Firstly, it's peppy not Peppy.

Second, since it's directly addressed to peppy, why not ask him directly for it? Stop confining yourself within the walls of this thread.
Ari-chan_old

Rukarioman wrote:

Because even IF he is cheating you can't see it while spectating.
No.

Fucking.

Way.
Orkel

Zekira wrote:

Peppy knows Cookiezi doesn't cheat, because..? What was he shown that convinced him? Show it to us aswell.
Firstly, it's peppy not Peppy.

Second, since it's directly addressed to peppy, why not ask him directly for it? Stop confining yourself within the walls of this thread.
Good idea.

And peppy, Peppy, why so nazi? Besides, it's the first word of my sentence, so it should be capitalized.
SilentWings_old
I asked Cookiezi ( with help from KRZY) and he said he will make a recording as soon as he gets a camera.

What I don't get is why people get suspicious of his plays. It is humanly possible and I don't find them to be overwhelmingly good to the point where they can bring suspicion.
-SiN-
Cookiezi should be registered to "no life person of osu!" rather than this thread..

well... i dont really care lol
Keksi

-SiN- wrote:

Cookiezi should be registered to "no life person of osu!" rather than this thread..

well... i dont really care lol

SiN win. ^^
KRZY
Yeah, yeah, people cheat if they do something you can't, right?

First of all, I would like to see more supporting evidence for the claim that you can't tell if a player is cheating or not by spectating him. If Cookiezi was exploiting FL+HD I would agree, but how the hell do you cheat with KIRBY Mixes and get away while people are spectating you?

Also, I've seen Cookiezi play in real life at the end of June. His plays are legit, and I bet my account on this statement. If you have any problems with my credence, catch me in-game and we'll have a nice little chat regarding the issue.

Finally, I think Intermezzo has made it clear that this thread is not for accusing players of cheating. Please refrain from posting any material related to the legitimacy of Cookiezi's records.



On a more relevant note,

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39522

#2's score and spin replay.

Take a look at the replay yourself if you have time, you'll lol.
TKiller

KRZY wrote:

On a more relevant note,

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39522

#2's score and spin replay.

Take a look at the replay yourself if you have time, you'll lol.

Zekira

SilentWings wrote:

What I don't get is why people get suspicious of his plays. It is humanly possible and I don't find them to be overwhelmingly good to the point where they can bring suspicion.
(well I know this discussion about Cookiezi is over, but meh)

I'm pretty much actually sliding through the border of impossibility on some of my maps and Cookiezi shows that even he has difficulties with that. And if you'll notice from his mouse motions it doesn't seem like those misses were intentional, either, but rather was from a loss/gain of excessive pressing speed. I'm talking about this (http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9917) and this (http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10568)

TKiller wrote:

KRZY wrote:

On a more relevant note,

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39522

#2's score and spin replay.

Take a look at the replay yourself if you have time, you'll lol.
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I can safely say that this is the most wtfspin I have ever seen in my entire osu!life. How the fuck can you do that... (it's not like the usual uber mouse speed spins. Or is it...) =w= In fact it's so impossible I bet the SPM counter actually made a stack overflow...

Yes people watch it 'til the end, it is surely something that you will probably shit bricks at.
AdRon Zh3Ro
Duno if it is the right thread but...

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66514

Diff: Madness
Hacker:Bikku

Obvious auto hack... it's impossible that some1 can aim so fast.
Gens

adron zhero wrote:

Duno if it is the right thread but...

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66514

Diff: Madness
Hacker:Bikku

Obvious auto hack... it's impossible that some1 can aim so fast.
Read the previous pages. It's already been stated that he uses a touchscreen to play, so that's why the cursor looks odd.
GladiOol

Gens wrote:

adron zhero wrote:

Duno if it is the right thread but...

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66514

Diff: Madness
Hacker:Bikku

Obvious auto hack... it's impossible that some1 can aim so fast.
Read the previous pages. It's already been stated that he uses a touchscreen to play, so that's why the cursor looks odd.
I wonder, how can some1 tick 1/4 on a touchscreen? d:
Galkan

Zekira wrote:

I can safely say that this is the most wtfspin I have ever seen in my entire osu!life.
This dude glitched the game @.@
Zekira

Galkan92 wrote:

Zekira wrote:

I can safely say that this is the most wtfspin I have ever seen in my entire osu!life.
This dude glitched the game @.@
Yes, seriously.
I seriously don't see how that's even possible without putting a rope on your mouse, tying it to an electric fan, the turning that electric fan on 8x more than its maximum power...
Xgor
AHAHAHAHA, He spun like 3 times faster than auto!

Undoubtedly a hack.
Zeugziumy

This one still was not deleted...
Well, it was reported 2 times from different users...
Please... Remove .-.
Zekira
Lol the cursor seemed like you were pointing at Rokodo :>
maay
That nindori dude must have freezed the client to spin like that, lol.

Anyway, here's a guy we should probably keep an eye on:
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/219057
tons of #1 and every single of them have HID + FL enabled.
Even on "Can't defeat airman", which has epic spacing.
Gomo Psivarh

SuperMaay wrote:

That kensei akio dude must have freezed the client to spin like that, lol.

Anyway, here's a guy we should probably keep an eye on:
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/219057
tons of #1 and every single of them have HID + FL enabled.
Even on "Can't defeat airman", which has epic spacing.
These maps are very easy to memorize.

Can't defeat airman?
These big jumps are not hard at all if you practised several times.
maay
Well, that was just an example, there are even harder maps in which you used HID + FL.

Anyway, "I memorized" is the most common answer to be expected, and arguing with you here won't really prove anything. From both sides.
I apologize if you actually took the time to memorize every single note from your HID + FL records, but keep in mind that since there is no way for me to know whether your scores are legit or not, I had to post here.
Selee

SuperMaay wrote:

Well, that was just an example, there are even harder maps in which you used HID + FL.

Anyway, "I memorized" is the most common answer to be expected, and arguing with you here won't really prove anything. From both sides.
I apologize if you actually took the time to memorize every single note from your HID + FL records, but keep in mind that since there is no way for me to know whether your scores are legit or not, I had to post here.
lol...So all players played with HD+FL and FC songs in 100 PC must die? Come on...

Though I can't do this, I know many more pro players can...

Gomo is a pro player, at least better than his rank and your expectation. He just has some Internet problems and he hate anime songs...

I don't believe players who FL and FC songs with low PC, but... you can't prove they are cheating...
Lunah_old

KRZY wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39522

#2's score and spin replay.

Take a look at the replay yourself if you have time, you'll lol.

ahahhahahahahahha, really .. i can't stop laugh xD
couch boy

KRZY wrote:

On a more relevant note,

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/39522
0_o

that spinner
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