kaouji wrote:

how can touchscreen play FL ?
how to move the cursor to find notes with touchscreen ?
touchscreen is a tool one touch one hit without move,right?

can you make a video show me?

jamesleao wrote:

Bikko wrote:

Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid pannel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?

Crazy Jay wrote:

where did you buy it?
and since you have shown your photo of your touchscreen
you are surely able to recorded a video about your playing with FL(+other mods) by your awesome touchscreen,right?
just do it and then all the questions will be clear

record a video when u r playing with your touchscreen okay?

hybrid579 wrote:

Oh, look what I found.

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5985&p=410107#p410107

Bikko wrote:

when using touchscreen, cursor dosen't move until I touching or dragging.
so cursor can not show my finger moving perfectly.
in fact, I use my own skin with 1X1 invisible cursor. I don't need visible cursor until i have calibration problem.

If you found somthing similrar in my replays, that is my play style. just that.
and you can spectating me anytimes. and you''ll see always same things. a teleporting cursor. It's very natural phenomenon on touchscreen playing.

deepsea wrote:

1.peppy can prove a player cheat or not cheat just through spec, this is much more convincing than all of our "common sense".

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight


a corner of the iceberg

Bikko wrote:

http://user.chol.com/~dynamiteneon/00/r ... raijin.zip

Crazy Jay wrote:

I have spec peppy playing with his touchscreen several month ago,so,don't take it seriously
I just can't understand how to play with FL mod by touchscreen (have no chance to touch it :_;)(hid hardrock is quite easy with touchscreen)

Neo Adonis wrote:

^

DJ KRZY wrote:

Two wrong scores found

1st : Flyleaf - The Kind [Intense]

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Replay shows that Cyborg barely ranks inside #40 with 5.3 million-ish score. However, his score is recorded as 6.8 million. A glitch in the algorithm maybe?

2nd: The Legend of Zelda - The Wind Waker - Molgera [Insane] (Taiko)

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Again, replay shows that ddrddr125 has only 381 combos with a score of 416,XXX. Probably an error occured while the score was being submitted.

Fix please~ XD



Oh and btw ddrddr125 is VERY pro too. Try multiplaying with him sometime.

1miko1 wrote:

Karta, this score is absolutely legit, I've just beaten it with D grade as well. (not kanpu one ofc, the second one :p)

gabrielwoj wrote:

This really looks right?


http://osu.ppy.sh/s/6066
Diff: Bidoof Only...[Taiko]
The first place has 4 misses.... And is leading

Nekoo[] wrote:

gabrielwoj wrote:

This really looks right?


http://osu.ppy.sh/s/6066
Diff: Bidoof Only...[Taiko]
The first place has 4 misses.... And is leading

If I'm not blind it looks like Chipi-X isn't double hitting the big notes and DarkStoorm is so the score makes perfect sense =P

[-R-] wrote:

SPOILER

#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661

[-R-] wrote:

SPOILER

#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661

[-R-] wrote:

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#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661

1miko1 wrote:

Karta, this score is absolutely legit, I've just beaten it with D grade as well. (not kanpu one ofc, the second one :p)

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/409747

Joined: Jul 8, 2010
Last Visit: Jul 27, 2010

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OnosakiHito wrote:

Download it if you don't have, and then replay suinagis game.
After the 104 hitcirlce you can see the miss of sunagi.
Well, I think it's just a bug from osu!... because suinagi seams to be one of the best players...
Maybe, make your own opinion?

-> http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39317&m=1

Greetings.

kaouji wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40017

#1 Zealot_Fenix (Previously known as hyt103)

can you make a video?

boss2626 wrote:

hi, http://osu.ppy.sh/u/444347 in 3 days. he ranked on hard beatmap
strange and he join.
Aug 3, 2010
Aug 6, 2010

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Neruell wrote:

Well I just noticed something strange on this beatmap ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27035 " ) and something strange about "Ana_Coppola" on rank #28 ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/88717 " ). I don't want to say anything bad about the player, but it really looks weird, "S" rank with 0 miss but according to the replay when you watch it you see a definite miss, and not only once. I also don't think that if you manage to full combo this song with "S" you wouldn't be on such a low place like #28. Also the same thing happened with the other 2 players ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/198574 " ) and ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/56917 " ). I just think it's a bug but should be fixed....

Ari-chan wrote:

Lol.

I have my reasons for multi. But okay, yes i'm this guy

Lemon Water wrote:

Atticus432's score is too high on this. You're score can't be this high on easy mode.

I'm not sure if he's cheating or if this is a glitch.

(Sorry for different sizes of the images. I was playing multiplayer on full screen 640x480 and window mode on solo 800x600 cause I was switching between osu! and my browser when writing this to check my facts.)

Lemon Water wrote:

Atticus432's score is too high on this. You're score can't be this high on easy mode.

I'm not sure if he's cheating or if this is a glitch.

(Sorry for different sizes of the images. I was playing multiplayer on full screen 640x480 and window mode on solo 800x600 cause I was switching between osu! and my browser when writing this to check my facts.)

Galkan92 wrote:

Ari-chan wrote:

Lol.

I have my reasons for multi. But okay, yes i'm this guy

Interests: SteRRum

I lol'd. You're just bored playing your old acc, aren't you?

Nekoo[] wrote:

Neruell wrote:

Well I just noticed something strange on this beatmap ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27035 " ) and something strange about "Ana_Coppola" on rank #28 ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/88717 " ). I don't want to say anything bad about the player, but it really looks weird, "S" rank with 0 miss but according to the replay when you watch it you see a definite miss, and not only once. I also don't think that if you manage to full combo this song with "S" you wouldn't be on such a low place like #28. Also the same thing happened with the other 2 players ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/198574 " ) and ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/56917 " ). I just think it's a bug but should be fixed....

Uhm a S doesn't indicate that you get a full combo on regular osu!, it just shows that you managed to get 0 misses with a decent accuracy. I think that this is a case where they've managed to break their combo due to a slider break which means that the combo breaks but it doesn't count as a miss =P

Neruell wrote:

But then I don't understand how that slider break things is working because watching Lesjuh's replay same happened to him and compared to Ana he had that only once and not 2 time and his accuracy is much higher but still he got "A" and a miss and Ana not. It look like a bug, maybe it's not but then tell me how that slider no-miss break works.

Lunah wrote:

Hello i'm here for report player Moneto

he use a cheat for flashlight / hidden, and he admitted to me and KRZY, here screenshoot :

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[attachment=0:539a9]monetoscreen1.jpg[/attachment:539a9]

(This screen is real, you can be sure, i already make a video of the program, and i showed it to ephemeral)

i said to him if he helped me to find others cheaters, and he stops to cheat, i will not report him. But he is still cheating, so here some random records :

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/63499 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66395 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37430 ~ #2


This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)

SuperMaay wrote:

To be honest, using hidden + flashlight on insane songs with a mouse is already hard enough... let alone using a touch screen like Bikko, since you can't "search" for the notes as you do with a mouse. And he does some insane hidden + FL scores quite often.

I'm not accusing him as I lack proof and I'm not entirely sure myself whether he cheats or not... but such program would certainly explain his scores quite well. The same goes for lynch on scores like Last Remote and Lucent Wish.

SuperMaay wrote:

To be honest, using hidden + flashlight on insane songs with a mouse is already hard enough... let alone using a touch screen like Bikko, since you can't "search" for the notes as you do with a mouse. And he does some insane hidden + FL scores quite often.

Intermezzo wrote:

Bikko has already been spectated by peppy and proofed that he is not a cheater.
Please stop arguing about it in this thread.

fartownik wrote:

Lunah wrote:

Hello i'm here for report player Moneto

he use a cheat for flashlight / hidden, and he admitted to me and KRZY, here screenshoot :

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[attachment=0:687d7]monetoscreen1.jpg[/attachment:687d7]

(This screen is real, you can be sure, i already make a video of the program, and i showed it to ephemeral)

i said to him if he helped me to find others cheaters, and he stops to cheat, i will not report him. But he is still cheating, so here some random records :

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/63499 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66395 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37430 ~ #2


This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)

I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.

SuperMaay wrote:

Anyway, now that Lunah posted about a program like that, I think the number of cheaters in osu! will just increase. It just takes a min or two of googling to find it. Unfortunately, moneto gave too much details about the program, so censoring its name won't really do.

SuperMaay wrote:

You should have directly contacted an admin or w/e instead of posting here. >.>

dNextGen wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/42705

#13

XiaoWei

Mod : None

dNextGen wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/42705

#13

XiaoWei

Mod : None

Lunah wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28422 #1

what? flashlight?

dNextGen wrote:

Lunah wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28422 #1

what? flashlight?

are you sure that he's using the cheat as well in that map

because #2 is Flashlight too

------

sorry for bad english

dNextGen wrote:

are you sure that he's using the cheat as well in that map
because #2 is Flashlight too
sorry for bad english

TKiller wrote:

red zone is easy to remember, having fast fingers is enough

Keksi wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/463253

Really weird.

He/she had join today >_> .

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Avfunny wrote:

Use a touch screen will make you like Auto？

I suspect it

Nivalis wrote:

Avfunny wrote:

Use a touch screen will make you like Auto？

I suspect it

No, if you see Bikko's replay, in touchscreen the cursor teleports, but in Auto the cursor moves normally as the mouse do.

KRZY wrote:

Stop spawning multis already Litter <<<<

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?

dNextGen wrote:

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?

Lulz

no need to do that just tell them to not discuss about Bikko anymore

KRZY wrote:

Stop spawning multis already Litter <<<<

Avfunny wrote:

However,there are other “human beings” can move like that？

Maybe many people have seen the Cyclone's touchscreen video

That is quite different

qianantai3 wrote:

just one thing I dont understand. What is the relationship between touchscreen and flashlight mode?

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?

fartownik wrote:

I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.

dvorak wrote:

Anti-cheat system is nonsense dream.
That will make osu as virus. Remind about warden by Blizzard.

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

SuperMaay wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/oknam

Joined: Aug 14, 2010
Last Visit: Aug 14, 2010

on the same day he joined, our little buddy DT'd this Lunatic (#13).

DeadRobots wrote:

Well I showed my friend that game and he tried it out, While playing he got the idea to plug in and use my tablet instead, You can get insane spinner bonuses this way. You don't need hacks. There aint nothing fishy about this camp Wiganishie.

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

Keksi wrote:

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

Yes , but if many peoples will support/donate osu! then we can buy it

Nivalis wrote:

DeadRobots wrote:

Well I showed my friend that game and he tried it out, While playing he got the idea to plug in and use my tablet instead, You can get insane spinner bonuses this way. You don't need hacks. There aint nothing fishy about this camp Wiganishie.

That's tablet advantage. Yes, there are some players spinning insanely with their tablet, and this is (absolutely) not counted as hack.

Lunah wrote:

This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

Orkel wrote:

Really? I spin faster with my mouse (400+) than with my tablet (~350). Is there some secret tablet spinning style I'm not aware of?

Orkel wrote:

fartownik wrote:

I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.

Yeah, osu really needs an anticheat system

Louis Cyphre wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39752&m=1
Taiko.
On this map:
1. there is no sliders
2. one spinner and beats

I do SS with same mods as 1st, why i'm not first?
Also TTTL HR+DT (my mods HR+FL) is second. But this guy make one 100. And he is first O_o
Cheat ._.

_Giorgos_ wrote:

A guy named Silver Flash - Joined: Aug 25, 2010
and he took my place here in catch the beat - http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15800&m=2
It is impossible to make here first place when you've just joined this game. And that is why I ask you to delete him

lol, how can u expect to be first when you aren't even hitting the big notes? =P

im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb
you wont report this thing,eh

dNextGen wrote:

_Giorgos_ wrote:

A guy named Silver Flash - Joined: Aug 25, 2010
and he took my place here in catch the beat - http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15800&m=2
It is impossible to make here first place when you've just joined this game. And that is why I ask you to delete him

im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb

you wont report this thing,eh

Louis Cyphre wrote:

lol, how can u expect to be first when you aren't even hitting the big notes? =P

What's mean "hitting the big notes"?
I did SS with same mods as 1st, but i'm not first, i'm not even 2nd, 3rd, 4th. And there is no sliders, only one spin.

im sure if he didnt take your first place in ctb
you wont report this thing,eh

It is okey when cheater defeat you, of course. _Giorgos_ what do you want from us?

okay im outta here now
i dont want to say anything wrong