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Intermezzo
osu! Alumni
101 posts
Joined July 2009
Intermezzo
Banned:
Pookz(multi) : tsukata, Andreadoria
Rickisbb (multi): rickisb

Deleted:
#1 score Doubt & Trust[easy](taiko)

Ticketed:
CTB S bug (i352)

Under investigation:
pieguy1372

Arusha Shuna wrote:

lol mikhe is accused of cheating XD
even though im a FL noob, i think it's not so hard for FL pro to memorize it.

qianantai3 wrote:

cause those jumps were too hard. even u can see through the FL it is still hard to fc. and Mikhe has already get the #1 so he doesnt have to go on.

LirsRosso wrote:

be quiet, boy
Please don't argue about suspicious scores here. Just post them.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
What the...?! :shock:

I don't cheat. First, you can see the notes with Hidden+Flashlight in Catch the Beat, though just for a split second. Second, look at my play counts.

720 plays - Hatsune Miku - Hatsune Miku no Shoushitsu [Uninstall]
300 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Kanbu de Tomatte Ikimashita [Love]
300 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard]

In almost all cases, these amounts of plays are enough to memorize a map, and then FC it with Flashlight or Hidden+Flashlight in Catch the Beat. :)

Also, IIRC, ranks in Catch the Beat are based off of accuracy alone...it seems to be that anything 98.00% and above is an S. (Given that it's been this way all this time I'd assume it's intentional...)
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corno
36 posts
Joined August 2009
corno

LirsRosso wrote:

dont talk about mikhe,i just doubt pieguy1372
dt+hid≠hid+fl
hid+fl cant see anything
and you can try it :3
In CtB you can see a bit of the fruits on top before being cloaked by hidden, and it's quite easy to follow if they are not so separated.
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight



a corner of the iceberg





ouranhshc
2,338 posts
Joined July 2009
ouranhshc

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight



a corner of the iceberg
Bikko uses a touchscreen
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso
touchscreen can 1 pc hid+fl
i will buy one
(あんたバカ？
str007
29 posts
Joined January 2010
str007

ouranhshc wrote:

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight



a corner of the iceberg
Bikko uses a touchscreen

looooool
touchscreen can help me FC ang song with Flashlight, how nice!
play songs with Flashlight, and no trajectory, how can he see these notes?ohh, this guy must have an amazing memory
Bikko
151 posts
Joined January 2010
Bikko
Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid panel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?
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Lunah_old
Lunah_old

LirsRosso wrote:


LoL image haha, btw i thought same but he explain me how play, he isn't a cheater, he only use marks for remember
kaouji
92 posts
Joined February 2009
kaouji
how can touchscreen play FL ?
how to move the cursor to find notes with touchscreen ?
touchscreen is a tool one touch one hit without move,right?

can you make a video show me?
JamesLeao
366 posts
Joined October 2008
JamesLeao

Bikko wrote:

Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid pannel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?
record a video when u r playing with your touchscreen okay?
Crazy Jay
482 posts
Joined October 2008
Crazy Jay
where did you buy it?
and since you have shown your photo of your touchscreen
you are surely able to recorded a video about your playing with FL(+other mods) by your awesome touchscreen,right?
just do it and then all the questions will be clear
Roddie
osu! Alumni
1,468 posts
Joined June 2009
Roddie

kaouji wrote:

how can touchscreen play FL ?
how to move the cursor to find notes with touchscreen ?
touchscreen is a tool one touch one hit without move,right?

can you make a video show me?

jamesleao wrote:

Bikko wrote:

Yeah, Touchscreen has disadvantage on sight searching, but has advantage. If you memorising as well, you can hit the note with only foresee. just be reckless.

I use grid pannel and few marker to play FL. as i know, It is legit. also, I already accused for cheating once because of FL + HD. many people don't know about this case. My account already deleted once because of this case, but revived by peppy. (I was spected by peppy.)

If you see my replays, you can find out my play style is totally different when I use FL. I often use dragging to serach for the exact position of next note(sometimes not, If I practice much)

Also, who said I use only 1 PC in FL? hm?

Crazy Jay wrote:

where did you buy it?
and since you have shown your photo of your touchscreen
you are surely able to recorded a video about your playing with FL(+other mods) by your awesome touchscreen,right?
just do it and then all the questions will be clear
record a video when u r playing with your touchscreen okay?
Oh, look what I found.

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5985&p=410107#p410107
kaouji
92 posts
Joined February 2009
kaouji

hybrid579 wrote:

Oh, look what I found.

http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5985&p=410107#p410107
It can proof nothing.
Roddie
osu! Alumni
1,468 posts
Joined June 2009
Roddie
Well, the screen shot shows Bikko's touchscreen and as for Crazy Jay's question, here is the model for the touchscreen he uses.

http://www.hwayoungs.com/sub/product01_1.html


What more proof do you want? :P

Edit: Oh, by the way. This will explain about the cursor movement.

Bikko wrote:

when using touchscreen, cursor dosen't move until I touching or dragging.
so cursor can not show my finger moving perfectly.
in fact, I use my own skin with 1X1 invisible cursor. I don't need visible cursor until i have calibration problem.

If you found somthing similrar in my replays, that is my play style. just that.
and you can spectating me anytimes. and you''ll see always same things. a teleporting cursor. It's very natural phenomenon on touchscreen playing.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
Oh guys please stop, he already spoken with Peppy, so he doesn't need to explain you again ~

HE ISN'T A CHEATER and has already been established
TKiller
4,390 posts
Joined May 2009
TKiller
he, though needs to get a counter to keep track of how much times people accused him of cheating :D
Bikko
151 posts
Joined January 2010
Bikko
Thank you loweh. but I want try to convince them. so, I write this post.


Unfortunately I don't have any device to record the video thing. I think, you say very easiliy 'just do it', but I can't make that kind of video. and I can't believe who accused for cheating can makes that kind of video always.

I did upload a poor quality picture of me in the past, but even that was difficult to me. I was borrow it from my friend, but I can not contact with that friend right now. and as I know he don't have camcorder thing either.

http://user.chol.com/~dynamiteneon/00/r ... raijin.zip

but I try to show something with effort. yeah, I don't have camcorder but I can record live video when I actually play the map. in this video, I show you my system administrator and what application in my memory (macroing, some application to cheat, anything, if there is something application possible to use cheat(in fact, I don't know about this much), plz send me PM, then I remake this video without that application. or I'll send you that file to analysis), and play the map with FL. it was very laggy so I couldn't make it FC in short time. but as I think, this record cleary show if I'm in my best condition I can make good result.

(I'll expalin some applications. DTLite.exe = daemontool, for CD image, wc11sta.exe = management for USB lancard, RTHDCPL.exe = Realtek HD Audio)

and I think, many one don't pay attention about a fact, I was spectated by peppy accidentally. as I know, It is a one of way to proof someone is a cheater or not. If I use cheat, I was purged in that moment instead revived. Please think about this.

deepsea wrote:

1.peppy can prove a player cheat or not cheat just through spec, this is much more convincing than all of our "common sense".
As I know, This Thread is not for argument. I'm very sorry about this happening. so, I'll stop here. but If I need to peppy's spectating again to proof my innocent, I can cleary say. I'm always ready.
Arusha Shuna
1,793 posts
Joined August 2009
Arusha Shuna

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16792
#1 5,213,860 96.60% Bikko 536 316 / 17 / 0 27 15 0 Hidden,HardRock,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17394
#1 10,466,441 96.79% Bikko 734 415 / 21 / 0 68 13 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/48437
#1 10,299,537 95.14% Bikko 793 496 / 39 / 0 69 21 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62523
#1 5,869,761 98.69% Bikko 621 349 / 7 / 0 53 5 0 Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62408
#1 15,610,587 99.03% Bikko 770 543 / 8 / 0 119 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34045
#2 12,827,560 98.77% Bikko 830 478 / 9 / 0 70 9 0 Flashlight


http://osu.ppy.sh/index.php?p=song&b=40894
#1 7,008,401 97.86% Bikko 552 422 / 14 / 0 73 8 0 Hidden,Flashlight


a corner of the iceberg
Bikko accused of cheating, AGAIN?
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

ah... the wonders of touchmaster ~w~
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
The post to end ALL arguments about Bikko.

As a #korean moderator, I understand that I have no say about whether a player is cheating or not; that is up to the admins, not me.

However, I didn't become an irc moderator for nothing. I was recommended for the post because I was deemed reasonable, reliable, and responsible.

With that in mind, Bikko live-streamed himself playing osu! through afreeca.com, an internet broadcasting site in Korea. He showed me how he had no other processes running except osu!, afreeca player, and other necessities (wi-fi support, etc.), and then played this map with Hidden, HardRock, and Flashlight. He did not FC the song, but after watching three plays, I was totally convinced that his records are the result of his practice and skill, not cheating.

If you still think this is not enough and think I was fooled by Bikko, PM me and we will have a nice long discussion about it.

Lastly, I would like to stress that Bikko has already been cleared by none other than peppy himself. If you think you are better than peppy at telling if a player is cheating or not, go apply for an admin or something. I'm suyre peppy will be pleased to let you in the team.

I feel bad about posting this in this thread, this thread has been misused too much. However, I felt I had to say something.

For those who didn't understand,

STOP ACCUSING BIKKO, HE IS AS LEGIT AS YOU ARE. JUST CUZ YOU CAN'T DO IT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYONE ELSE CAN'T.



p.s.

Bikko wrote:

http://user.chol.com/~dynamiteneon/00/r ... raijin.zip
this link leads to two videos of bikko playing with flashlight (+various other modes). if you're so suspicious, watch.
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Intermezzo
osu! Alumni
101 posts
Joined July 2009
Intermezzo
Bikko has already been spectated by peppy and proofed that he is not a cheater.
Please stop arguing about it in this thread. Any more allegations against him in this thread will be deleted.
Crazy Jay
482 posts
Joined October 2008
Crazy Jay
I have spec peppy playing with his touchscreen several month ago,so,don't take it seriously
I just can't understand how to play with FL mod by touchscreen (have no chance to touch it :_;)(hid hardrock is quite easy with touchscreen)
karta454515
720 posts
Joined August 2008
karta454515

Crazy Jay wrote:

I have spec peppy playing with his touchscreen several month ago,so,don't take it seriously
I just can't understand how to play with FL mod by touchscreen (have no chance to touch it :_;)(hid hardrock is quite easy with touchscreen)
touch screen seems useful but expensive 8-)
Zeugziumy
327 posts
Joined June 2010
Zeugziumy
-TAIKO-
New hacker found? Just look this, Rokodo is a great taiko player... But ddrddr125 look used cheat, he got more combos than Rokodo... And Rokodo not have misses (always when I send some hacker/glitch image, I put the second with the 0 misses combo, and full combo, for compare):



The scoreboard: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=8498&m=1

Thanks
Neo Adonis
320 posts
Joined November 2009
Neo Adonis
^ :|
Zeugziumy
327 posts
Joined June 2010
Zeugziumy

Neo Adonis wrote:

^ :|
?

Also, someone comment about the Doubt Troust I sent some days ago?
EDIT: I just saw, and the hacker gone...
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
Two wrong scores found

1st : Flyleaf - The Kind [Intense]
SPOILER

Replay shows that Cyborg barely ranks inside #40 with 5.3 million-ish score. However, his score is recorded as 6.8 million. A glitch in the algorithm maybe?

2nd: The Legend of Zelda - The Wind Waker - Molgera [Insane] (Taiko)
SPOILER

Again, replay shows that ddrddr125 has only 381 combos with a score of 416,XXX. Probably an error occured while the score was being submitted.

Fix please~ XD



Oh and btw ddrddr125 is VERY pro too. Try multiplaying with him sometime.
Zeugziumy
327 posts
Joined June 2010
Zeugziumy

DJ KRZY wrote:

Two wrong scores found

1st : Flyleaf - The Kind [Intense]
SPOILER

Replay shows that Cyborg barely ranks inside #40 with 5.3 million-ish score. However, his score is recorded as 6.8 million. A glitch in the algorithm maybe?

2nd: The Legend of Zelda - The Wind Waker - Molgera [Insane] (Taiko)
SPOILER

Again, replay shows that ddrddr125 has only 381 combos with a score of 416,XXX. Probably an error occured while the score was being submitted.

Fix please~ XD



Oh and btw ddrddr125 is VERY pro too. Try multiplaying with him sometime.
I already report the molgera..... I think it don't really need upload again...
Look at the same page
karta454515
720 posts
Joined August 2008
karta454515
I found one in a taiko mod

lookhttp://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=54372&m=1
#6 236,365 58.70% Starbreeze 19 24 / 33 / 0 0 0 12 HardRock,HalfTime

how can a D rank win a S rank with HR+1/2spd and 12 misses
It's strange

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=1147&m=1

I know marisa[hard] #1 is strange for long time
but i just wanna say it again
human's hand cant do like that fast
even youngdow MM and rokodo cant do
1miko1
38 posts
Joined April 2009
1miko1
Karta, this score is absolutely legit, I've just beaten it with D grade as well. (not kanpu one ofc, the second one :p)
Zeugziumy
327 posts
Joined June 2010
Zeugziumy

1miko1 wrote:

Karta, this score is absolutely legit, I've just beaten it with D grade as well. (not kanpu one ofc, the second one :p)
It's possible, the slider is always do 300, so there are maps with lots of sliders...
I beat one... I got S Silver with halftime... Isn't glitch or something... But you can do a big combo on the sliders
Zeugziumy
327 posts
Joined June 2010
Zeugziumy
This really looks right?



http://osu.ppy.sh/s/6066
Diff: Bidoof Only...[Taiko]
The first place has 4 misses.... And is leading
ShanaTan
184 posts
Joined August 2009
ShanaTan

gabrielwoj wrote:

This really looks right?


http://osu.ppy.sh/s/6066
Diff: Bidoof Only...[Taiko]
The first place has 4 misses.... And is leading
If I'm not blind it looks like Chipi-X isn't double hitting the big notes and DarkStoorm is so the score makes perfect sense =P
Zeugziumy
327 posts
Joined June 2010
Zeugziumy

Nekoo[] wrote:

gabrielwoj wrote:

This really looks right?


http://osu.ppy.sh/s/6066
Diff: Bidoof Only...[Taiko]
The first place has 4 misses.... And is leading
If I'm not blind it looks like Chipi-X isn't double hitting the big notes and DarkStoorm is so the score makes perfect sense =P
That makes sense...
I didn't watched the replay, I was time to get out on pc XD
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen
SPOILER

#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

[-R-] wrote:

SPOILER

#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661

Maybe he's a spinning God XD (/me runs)

idk would have to watch the replay but that looks very suspicious
8Ball
826 posts
Joined September 2009
8Ball

[-R-] wrote:

SPOILER

#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661
spinning god!
karta454515
720 posts
Joined August 2008
karta454515

[-R-] wrote:

SPOILER

#11 osu apple

Mod : None

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/57661

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45611

#26 osu apple Mod:HR why just a HR can win HR+HID or DT mode?
How did he spin?

1miko1 wrote:

Karta, this score is absolutely legit, I've just beaten it with D grade as well. (not kanpu one ofc, the second one :p)
ok.I know:D thank u:3
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/409747

Joined: Jul 8, 2010
Last Visit: Jul 27, 2010
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

LirsRosso wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/409747

Joined: Jul 8, 2010
Last Visit: Jul 27, 2010

SPOILER


looooooooooool
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,865 posts
Joined March 2010
OnosakiHito
Download it if you don't have, and then replay suinagis game.
After the 104 hitcirlce you can see the miss of sunagi.
Well, I think it's just a bug from osu!... because suinagi seams to be one of the best players...
Maybe, make your own opinion?

-> http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39317&m=1

Greetings.
kaouji
92 posts
Joined February 2009
kaouji
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40017

#1 Zealot_Fenix (Previously known as hyt103)

can you make a video?
Colin Hou
osu! Alumni
4,456 posts
Joined November 2009
Colin Hou

OnosakiHito wrote:

Download it if you don't have, and then replay suinagis game.
After the 104 hitcirlce you can see the miss of sunagi.
Well, I think it's just a bug from osu!... because suinagi seams to be one of the best players...
Maybe, make your own opinion?

-> http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=39317&m=1

Greetings.
You're right, that's the bug of replay.
arien666
6,312 posts
Joined May 2009
arien666
Ashley Tisdale & Lucas Grabeel - Bop to the Top
[The Bottom] diff Taiko mod #1...

SPOILER

Well... I played without any hack but...
Replay shows misses even that's FC data ;_;
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

kaouji wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40017

#1 Zealot_Fenix (Previously known as hyt103)

can you make a video?
stop talking about hyt shit in this tread >_>
boss2626
4 posts
Joined May 2010
boss2626
hi, http://osu.ppy.sh/u/444347 in 3 days. he ranked on hard beatmap
strange and he join.
Aug 3, 2010
Aug 6, 2010
TKiller
4,390 posts
Joined May 2009
TKiller

boss2626 wrote:

hi, http://osu.ppy.sh/u/444347 in 3 days. he ranked on hard beatmap
strange and he join.
Aug 3, 2010
Aug 6, 2010
SPOILER
what a coincidence, I just've asked KRZY to check him :D

Ari-chan_old
232 posts
Joined August 2010
Ari-chan_old
Lol.

I have my reasons for multi. But okay, yes i'm this guy
boss2626
4 posts
Joined May 2010
boss2626
:D ok
Neruell
408 posts
Joined May 2009
Neruell
Well I just noticed something strange on this beatmap ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27035 " ) and something strange about "Ana_Coppola" on rank #28 ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/88717 " ). I don't want to say anything bad about the player, but it really looks weird, "S" rank with 0 miss but according to the replay when you watch it you see a definite miss, and not only once. I also don't think that if you manage to full combo this song with "S" you wouldn't be on such a low place like #28. Also the same thing happened with the other 2 players ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/198574 " ) and ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/56917 " ). I just think it's a bug but should be fixed....
ShanaTan
184 posts
Joined August 2009
ShanaTan

Neruell wrote:

Well I just noticed something strange on this beatmap ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27035 " ) and something strange about "Ana_Coppola" on rank #28 ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/88717 " ). I don't want to say anything bad about the player, but it really looks weird, "S" rank with 0 miss but according to the replay when you watch it you see a definite miss, and not only once. I also don't think that if you manage to full combo this song with "S" you wouldn't be on such a low place like #28. Also the same thing happened with the other 2 players ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/198574 " ) and ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/56917 " ). I just think it's a bug but should be fixed....
Uhm a S doesn't indicate that you get a full combo on regular osu!, it just shows that you managed to get 0 misses with a decent accuracy. I think that this is a case where they've managed to break their combo due to a slider break which means that the combo breaks but it doesn't count as a miss =P
Galkan
Global Moderator
2,024 posts
Joined September 2009
Galkan

Ari-chan wrote:

Lol.

I have my reasons for multi. But okay, yes i'm this guy
Interests: SteRRum

I lol'd. You're just bored playing your old acc, aren't you?
Lemon Water_old
199 posts
Joined March 2010
Lemon Water_old
Atticus432's score is too high on this. You're score can't be this high on easy mode.

I'm not sure if he's cheating or if this is a glitch.

(Sorry for different sizes of the images. I was playing multiplayer on full screen 640x480 and window mode on solo 800x600 cause I was switching between osu! and my browser when writing this to check my facts.)



Teras
902 posts
Joined October 2009
Teras

Lemon Water wrote:

Atticus432's score is too high on this. You're score can't be this high on easy mode.

I'm not sure if he's cheating or if this is a glitch.

(Sorry for different sizes of the images. I was playing multiplayer on full screen 640x480 and window mode on solo 800x600 cause I was switching between osu! and my browser when writing this to check my facts.)
He's pro ya know. UBER SPIIIIIIIIIIN

But yah. On a more serious note I've played with him before and have noticed the same thing.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Lemon Water wrote:

Atticus432's score is too high on this. You're score can't be this high on easy mode.

I'm not sure if he's cheating or if this is a glitch.

(Sorry for different sizes of the images. I was playing multiplayer on full screen 640x480 and window mode on solo 800x600 cause I was switching between osu! and my browser when writing this to check my facts.)
in both screen are spun out, with spun out you can't spin, so maybe is a bug
Ari-chan_old
232 posts
Joined August 2010
Ari-chan_old

Galkan92 wrote:

Ari-chan wrote:

Lol.

I have my reasons for multi. But okay, yes i'm this guy
Interests: SteRRum

I lol'd. You're just bored playing your old acc, aren't you?
Oh yeah, baby
Neruell
408 posts
Joined May 2009
Neruell

Nekoo[] wrote:

Neruell wrote:

Well I just noticed something strange on this beatmap ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27035 " ) and something strange about "Ana_Coppola" on rank #28 ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/88717 " ). I don't want to say anything bad about the player, but it really looks weird, "S" rank with 0 miss but according to the replay when you watch it you see a definite miss, and not only once. I also don't think that if you manage to full combo this song with "S" you wouldn't be on such a low place like #28. Also the same thing happened with the other 2 players ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/198574 " ) and ( " http://osu.ppy.sh/u/56917 " ). I just think it's a bug but should be fixed....
Uhm a S doesn't indicate that you get a full combo on regular osu!, it just shows that you managed to get 0 misses with a decent accuracy. I think that this is a case where they've managed to break their combo due to a slider break which means that the combo breaks but it doesn't count as a miss =P

But then I don't understand how that slider break things is working because watching Lesjuh's replay same happened to him and compared to Ana he had that only once and not 2 time and his accuracy is much higher but still he got "A" and a miss and Ana not. It look like a bug, maybe it's not but then tell me how that slider no-miss break works.
ShanaTan
184 posts
Joined August 2009
ShanaTan

Neruell wrote:

But then I don't understand how that slider break things is working because watching Lesjuh's replay same happened to him and compared to Ana he had that only once and not 2 time and his accuracy is much higher but still he got "A" and a miss and Ana not. It look like a bug, maybe it's not but then tell me how that slider no-miss break works.
No Lesjuh missed a note which is diffirent from a slider break =P It's not a bug.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
Hello i'm here for report player Moneto

he use a cheat for flashlight / hidden, and he admitted to me and KRZY, here screenshoot :
(image deleted)

(This screen is real, you can be sure, i already make a video of the program, and i showed it to ephemeral)

i said to him if he helped me to find others cheaters, and he stops to cheat, i will not report him. But he is still cheating, so here some random records :

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/63499 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66395 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37430 ~ #2


This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik

Lunah wrote:

Hello i'm here for report player Moneto

he use a cheat for flashlight / hidden, and he admitted to me and KRZY, here screenshoot :

SPOILER
[attachment=0:539a9]monetoscreen1.jpg[/attachment:539a9]

(This screen is real, you can be sure, i already make a video of the program, and i showed it to ephemeral)

i said to him if he helped me to find others cheaters, and he stops to cheat, i will not report him. But he is still cheating, so here some random records :

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/63499 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66395 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37430 ~ #2


This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)
I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.
maay
410 posts
Joined September 2009
maay
To be honest, using hidden + flashlight on insane songs with a mouse is already hard enough... let alone using a touch screen like Bikko, since you can't "search" for the notes as you do with a mouse. And he does some insane hidden + FL scores quite often.

I'm not accusing him as I lack proof and I'm not entirely sure myself whether he cheats or not... but such program would certainly explain his scores quite well. The same goes for lynch on scores like Last Remote and Lucent Wish.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

SuperMaay wrote:

To be honest, using hidden + flashlight on insane songs with a mouse is already hard enough... let alone using a touch screen like Bikko, since you can't "search" for the notes as you do with a mouse. And he does some insane hidden + FL scores quite often.

I'm not accusing him as I lack proof and I'm not entirely sure myself whether he cheats or not... but such program would certainly explain his scores quite well. The same goes for lynch on scores like Last Remote and Lucent Wish.
Hey man about Bikko, he already showed me all, he don't cheat, i'm pretty sure, he too help me to find cheaters ~ about LyNch you are right
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
2,024 posts
Joined January 2009
Lybydose

SuperMaay wrote:

To be honest, using hidden + flashlight on insane songs with a mouse is already hard enough... let alone using a touch screen like Bikko, since you can't "search" for the notes as you do with a mouse. And he does some insane hidden + FL scores quite often.
Stop arguing this already.

Intermezzo wrote:

Bikko has already been spectated by peppy and proofed that he is not a cheater.
Please stop arguing about it in this thread.
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

fartownik wrote:

Lunah wrote:

Hello i'm here for report player Moneto

he use a cheat for flashlight / hidden, and he admitted to me and KRZY, here screenshoot :

SPOILER
[attachment=0:687d7]monetoscreen1.jpg[/attachment:687d7]

(This screen is real, you can be sure, i already make a video of the program, and i showed it to ephemeral)

i said to him if he helped me to find others cheaters, and he stops to cheat, i will not report him. But he is still cheating, so here some random records :

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/63499 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/66395 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37430 ~ #2


This post is too for report player LyNch

I'm sure he used same cheat, so i appeal to peppy, if he can ask LyNch to make a Streaimng video of this songs, he can free stream Here, or he can use what program he wants :3

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/45908 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50143 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454 ~ #1

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/59052 ~ #1

If you have something to add, be free

(sorry for bad english)
I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.
ahh i just about to post that moneto guy >_>

hum,this is one of the moneto's records

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40563

#1
maay
410 posts
Joined September 2009
maay
Yeah, I had already read that post, its just that I had no idea on how someone could tell whether or not a player uses such program to play just by spectating. Oh, well. I'm sure peppy has his tricks.

Anyway, now that Lunah posted about a program like that, I think the number of cheaters in osu! will just increase. It just takes a min or two of googling to find it. Unfortunately, moneto gave too much details about the program, so censoring its name won't really do. You should have directly contacted an admin or w/e instead of posting here. >.>
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

SuperMaay wrote:

Anyway, now that Lunah posted about a program like that, I think the number of cheaters in osu! will just increase. It just takes a min or two of googling to find it. Unfortunately, moneto gave too much details about the program, so censoring its name won't really do.
A man in staff already deleted it, btw

i hope Staff will wake up and make something, maybe for first, i think a "anticheat" built with osu is a good idea.
For second i think you you can "oblige", suspect players to make a free stream video .. that all is only for improve OSU (but this second is only for "pro players" with high suspects, (like hyt103, or lynch)

i mean if you have nothing to hide, why you should say no about streaming?

SuperMaay wrote:

You should have directly contacted an admin or w/e instead of posting here. >.>
Oh i already did that, not result :3
LirsRosso
159 posts
Joined April 2009
LirsRosso
Nightcore - Heaven is a Place on Earth
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/51454


same problem for #2
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/42705

#13

XiaoWei

Mod : None
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi

dNextGen wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/42705

#13

XiaoWei

Mod : None

Maybe Ultra spinner God xD
Rukario
973 posts
Joined May 2009
Rukario

dNextGen wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/42705

#13

XiaoWei

Mod : None
THIS must be some hack because, there is one spinner and he got 15000 bonus.
Well I tried it with no mods and got 16000 bonus and SS'd it. Though my score was only 30k.
So there must have been some cheat because his score right before the result screen is 29k although at the result screen are 35k points.
Case closed.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28422 #1

what? flashlight?
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

Lunah wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28422 #1

what? flashlight?
are you sure that he's using the cheat as well in that map

because #2 is Flashlight too

------

sorry for bad english
TKiller
4,390 posts
Joined May 2009
TKiller
red zone is easy to remember, having fast fingers is enough
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi

dNextGen wrote:

Lunah wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28422 #1

what? flashlight?
are you sure that he's using the cheat as well in that map

because #2 is Flashlight too

------

sorry for bad english


But hvick225(SnowWhite) is a old and good player . And i dont think that he used a cheat to FC it !
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

dNextGen wrote:

are you sure that he's using the cheat as well in that map
because #2 is Flashlight too
sorry for bad english

TKiller wrote:

red zone is easy to remember, having fast fingers is enough
Oh problem isn't this map, but person, Hvick225 he is a old and pro player and did nothing for be suspected, LyNch yes .. i think last remote, was pretty cheated, maybe i'm wrong ~

i'm only adding songs to the list, i already asked peppy, he said : contact him when LyNch is online, so he can check, that is all for me .. i have nothing to add about him, we'll see, we need only wait
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/463253

Really weird.

He/she had join today >_> .
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

Keksi wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/463253

Really weird.

He/she had join today >_> .
SPOILER

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/197547
Avfunny
35 posts
Joined November 2009
Avfunny
Use a touch screen will make you like Auto？

I suspect it
Niva
Global Moderator
3,196 posts
Joined November 2009
Niva

Avfunny wrote:

Use a touch screen will make you like Auto？

I suspect it
No, if you see Bikko's replay, in touchscreen the cursor teleports, but in Auto the cursor moves normally as the mouse do.
Avfunny
35 posts
Joined November 2009
Avfunny

Nivalis wrote:

Avfunny wrote:

Use a touch screen will make you like Auto？

I suspect it
No, if you see Bikko's replay, in touchscreen the cursor teleports, but in Auto the cursor moves normally as the mouse do.
However,there are other “human beings” can move like that？

Maybe many people have seen the Cyclone's touchscreen video

That is quite different
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
Stop spawning multis already Litter <<<<

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
Galkan
Global Moderator
2,024 posts
Joined September 2009
Galkan

KRZY wrote:

Stop spawning multis already Litter <<<<

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
I suggest making a big warning on his profile "READ IT. THAT PLAYER DO NOT CHEAT. CONFIRMED BY ADMIN." or somewhat.
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
Lulz

no need to do that just tell them to not discuss about Bikko anymore
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

dNextGen wrote:

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
Lulz

no need to do that just tell them to not discuss about Bikko anymore

lol was only joking
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

KRZY wrote:

Stop spawning multis already Litter <<<<
wut ;_;

mind to explain it to me

about that Litter guy and his multi-acc
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

Avfunny wrote:

However,there are other “human beings” can move like that？

Maybe many people have seen the Cyclone's touchscreen video

That is quite different
Cyclone played on a Tablet PC using a pen, Bikko plays with his bare hands so the screen sensitivity is quite different.
taq
43 posts
Joined July 2009
taq
just one thing I dont understand. What is the relationship between touchscreen and flashlight mode?
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

qianantai3 wrote:

just one thing I dont understand. What is the relationship between touchscreen and flashlight mode?
just ask him directly

and stop arguing about it in this thread
Niva
Global Moderator
3,196 posts
Joined November 2009
Niva

KRZY wrote:

btw can we start banning people for accusing Bikko?
At first I was shocked by this statement... I thought you were serious :P
I only used Bikko as a comparison to answer Avfunny's question, I know he is an excellent touchscreen player and he didn't cheat :P
Gomo Psivarh
584 posts
Joined December 2009
Gomo Psivarh
I wonder why those obvious spinner hackers haven't get their accounts banned yet. >:(
Nilsso
Nilsso
Suspicious replay:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/29293
Difficulty: Genin
Rank9, player shannaro

Look at the spinner at the end, it stays consistant at 475-476RPMs.
Orkel
osu! Alumni
450 posts
Joined September 2008
Orkel

fartownik wrote:

I wonder how much latest "pro" players use this program. I think we'll be surprised by their amount.
Yeah, osu really needs an anticheat system :|
dvorak_old
294 posts
Joined February 2010
dvorak_old
Anti-cheat system is nonsense dream.
That will make osu as virus. Remind about warden by Blizzard.

also there are some easy and undetectable play-style that isn't intended.
I'm sure some of them will be treated as legal under peppy's suspection and streaming to Ustream with the hand/keyboard/osu itself.

If you want to play in the world without any such play-style, just wait osu! arcade.
Needless to say, arcade music game is good too.


Just enjoy osu! , it is time waste to care.
DeadRobots
21 posts
Joined August 2010
DeadRobots
Well I showed my friend that game and he tried it out, While playing he got the idea to plug in and use my tablet instead, You can get insane spinner bonuses this way. You don't need hacks. There aint nothing fishy about this camp Wiganishie.
Orkel
osu! Alumni
450 posts
Joined September 2008
Orkel

dvorak wrote:

Anti-cheat system is nonsense dream.
That will make osu as virus. Remind about warden by Blizzard.
lol, no. Something should be done about cheating and implementing something to detect them is the best way. As it is now, any ridiculously insane skill displayed has the possibility of being cheating. There are people in osu that have such ungodly playing skill that unless there's proof they're normal players I'll keep thinking them as cheaters.
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen
anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi

dNextGen wrote:

anti cheat system will cost more money

because the hackshield/anti-cheat program isnt free,eh

Yes , but if many peoples will support/donate osu! then we can buy it :)
maay
410 posts
Joined September 2009
maay
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/oknam

Joined: Aug 14, 2010
Last Visit: Aug 14, 2010

on the same day he joined, our little buddy DT'd this Lunatic (#13).
Galkan
Global Moderator
2,024 posts
Joined September 2009
Galkan

SuperMaay wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/oknam

Joined: Aug 14, 2010
Last Visit: Aug 14, 2010

on the same day he joined, our little buddy DT'd this Lunatic (#13).
Propably this is someone else's other account. (Altough I stil don't understand why people are making those...only on cheat purpose? :3)
Niva
Global Moderator
3,196 posts
Joined November 2009
Niva

DeadRobots wrote:

Well I showed my friend that game and he tried it out, While playing he got the idea to plug in and use my tablet instead, You can get insane spinner bonuses this way. You don't need hacks. There aint nothing fishy about this camp Wiganishie.
That's tablet advantage. Yes, there are some players spinning insanely with their tablet, and this is (absolutely) not counted as hack.
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