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PouletFurtif
Thanks.
I really like your work.
If it can help you, looks like you rarely finish/start a map with < 80% HP (I played from 7th to 9th Dan), making things easier. 10th Dan was more pleasurable 'cause I always started around 20~40% HP :)

edit : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2835198 ;o
Nekro_old_1
I'm getting extracting errors in Insane 1 - 5. Only Beginner dan and 6th dan shows up

i guess i cleared 6th dan so it doesnt matter... but i wanna try the rest
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Nekro wrote:

I'm getting extracting errors in Insane 1 - 5. Only Beginner dan and 6th dan shows up

i guess i cleared 6th dan so it doesnt matter... but i wanna try the rest
damn I should be more careful to check that everything works properly lol

I fixed the problem
Fullerene-
Once you got all the dans finalized hit me up and I'll mirror them on MEGA for you
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Insane 7th Dan has been added!

Download here!
EtienneXC
Not trying to sound rude but you should upload all of these separate instead of updating the same ones but with an added dan. It would organize things more and would take much quicker for the people that only want a specific course.
Topic Starter
Jinjin

StaiainFangirl wrote:

Not trying to sound rude but you should upload all of these separate instead of updating the same ones but with an added dan. It would organize things more and would take much quicker for the people that only want a specific course.
You aren't the only one to say that to me haha. Yup, I was already planning to give separate links for each update starting from 8th dan because the file size was becoming really large. I'll make a combined compilation once all the dan courses are finished. Thanks for the input :)
lemonguy
Never passing Dan 5 cause Shut Down Everything
SillyFangirl
Good job Ijinjin, i stuck at 7th dan x.x
IamBaum
Really nice Dan system, i need to try it later :D
ReTLoM
Haha i suck really hard :(
i can just handle this :)

and i failed to the 3. song in the a-6 Dan
But finally good Stuff to practice thank you very much Senpai 8-)
Topic Starter
Jinjin

ReTLoM wrote:

Haha i suck really hard :(
i can just handle this :)

and i failed to the 3. song in the a-6 Dan
But finally good Stuff to practice thank you very much Senpai 8-)
Nice job! glad to hear that this helped ^^
PouletFurtif

iJinjin wrote:

Akihiro wrote:

Freedom dive [7K HD] from a-10 feels really easy compared to the other songs
About Freedom Dive at alpha-10: I wouldn't say it is drastically easy compared to the other songs in that course, but yes, I agree that it is a bit on the easier side. However, I also think people who average around alpha 10 might will still have a challenge as freedom dive is a pretty long song ^^
I was averaging around a-10 a few weeks ago, and I can tell you the length of the map doesn't increase the difficulty at all. It's like "gratz you just reached 10th Dan, now take this little eargasm as reward". Definitely the easiest map.
DeletedUser_2024727
dl'd, let's see how awful I am at 7k now
TJT
wonderful!
AncuL
DAN 3rd and 4th too much jump rating
almost 1 SR (or exceed 1)
hope you can make DAN 3.1
Topic Starter
Jinjin

AncuL wrote:

DAN 3rd and 4th too much jump rating
almost 1 SR (or exceed 1)
hope you can make DAN 3.1
Star Rating may have jumped a lot, but 4th dan is actually pretty overrated imo (feels more like 5.3~5.5*)
Kamikaze
>people measuring real map's difficulty by star rating
AncuL
um
on 3th song, notes barely start appears on the middle
on the 4th song, 1/4 notes start appears on the middle
Topic Starter
Jinjin

AncuL wrote:

um
on 3th song, notes barely start appears on the middle
on the 4th song, 1/4 notes start appears on the middle
It's a known issue for osu!mania when the beatmap contains a large amount of hit objects or notes. (they really need to fix this aa)
Evening
when

- I updated the 7k scores
Tristan97
Can we get images for the insane dans like we have for the normal ones? and Dans 8-Tachyon pls
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Tristan97 wrote:

Can we get images for the insane dans like we have for the normal ones? and Dans 8-Tachyon pls
I'll ask zenny for the bgs once I finish making the higher dans. Aaaaaa
Kamikaze
Well, you can use my air raid as zenith finisher =^)
Topic Starter
Jinjin

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Well, you can use my air raid as zenith finisher =^)
=^)
AGRX
Thank you guys! kudos for u <3
Topic Starter
Jinjin
sorry for the long wait, 8th dan is coming very soon :)
ARCskieZ
Really nice!
I'm a mania noob and follwo your guide as some form of "training with increased difficulty" and I'm currently at the α-4 (4th Dan) - ☆2.12 and hit a little wall, because the note density is getting higher and thus my reading abillity really gets bad.
I need to learn more patterns I guess, since alot of the more complex or fast patterns (especially stairs or layers LN's) are throwing me off.
Btw could it be, that the star ranking in mania is not really helpfull?
Some 2.2 star maps are really easy and some are walls of notes and really fast patterns that are nearly unreadable for me.
Is that normal?

cheers
lenpai
Yes it is normal.
Denser maps are rated higher, whether the pattern is easy to play or not. Well there are some underrate issues with maps with tons of Long Notes despite being dense (play area being cluttered with long notes, not note count).
Bobbias

ARCskieZ wrote:

Really nice!
Btw could it be, that the star ranking in mania is not really helpfull?
Yes. Star rating is currently very broken in a few well known ways. For example, LNs are terribly underrated, while large chords, in particular chord jacks are overrated as hell.

Star rating should only be seen as a very rough guide to difficulty.
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Update: 8th Dan + HP value readjustment (as decided by spoonguy)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ys6rvx88bzryo ... l.osz?dl=0
spoonguy
yea blame it all on me lmao
Anyway some dans will be changed in order to fit the new HP value (such as the 7th dan, which is currently harder than 8th because of the bursty maps) so look forward to that too.
Ciel
aaaaaaand rip all the 7k insane scores
NXTKitKat
Why not submitting these maps?

Also, could you please link the maps that are used? It's kinda better if we don't have to search for every single maps to download.
Sern888
Cool !
Topic Starter
Jinjin

NXTKitKat wrote:

Why not submitting these maps?

Also, could you please link the maps that are used? It's kinda better if we don't have to search for every single maps to download.
Yup, I'll start doing this ^^


Also, Insane 9th dan has been uploaded!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/caszerehqec3o ... l.osz?dl=0
Evening

iJinjin wrote:

NXTKitKat wrote:

Why not submitting these maps?

Also, could you please link the maps that are used? It's kinda better if we don't have to search for every single maps to download.
Yup, I'll start doing this ^^


Also, Insane 9th dan has been uploaded!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/caszerehqec3o ... l.osz?dl=0
gud sheet
Topic Starter
Jinjin
https://www.dropbox.com/s/caszerehqec3o ... l.osz?dl=0

Update: made Insane 10th Dan today too (wew)

This means that all Insane Dans are now complete!
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Update: The first of the extra level dan course is finally here! Do you have what it takes to tackle the extra dan? Go ahead, see for yourself!
Download available through this link or the main forum post
Evening

iJinjin wrote:

Update: The first of the extra level dan course is finally here! Do you have what it takes to tackle the extra dan? Go ahead, see for yourself!
Download available through this link or the main forum post

wow fast
ggsnipess
holy shit dude, you're going ham
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Another Update once again! : Azimuth Dan is ready! Download link bundled with the Gamma dan available here
Topic Starter
Jinjin
It's finally done! The hardest dan finally made its way!
Here's the complete download link for all the extra dan courses
ggsnipess
Took you long enough to get this done zzzzz

gud job doe








chyoic for zenith pass
Evening

iJinjin wrote:

It's finally done! The hardest dan finally made its way!
Here's the complete download link for all the extra dan courses
oh boy who will be the first to clear this !?!?!?
Sern888
just clearing it is okay ? (doesn't require high accuracy?)
ggsnipess
yep, 7k dans just need a pass and you're good, I don't think anyone would be able to keep a 95% or above run on zenith lol
Topic Starter
Jinjin
yup, just need to clear ^^
spoonguy
chinchin is etttttttttttttttttt

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seriously though kakuzetsu thanathos at hp9 and it's not even the hardest song of the course lmaaaao
i'm interested to see who the hell passes this
Evening
So as to give some context to other people Sern888 recently cleared Azimuth which is an impressive feat but due to the note glitch, he did significantly worse at the final 2 songs.
Note Glitch: notes at the further end of a long and dense chart (pretty much around >7 mins length) notes will start to load slower, this means that sometimes notes can "appear" in the middle of the mania stage instead of starting at the top, this glitch gets worse as the chart gets longer/denser

Suggestion 1:
Pretty sure this has been reported before but I guess you can bump that thread or contact a suitable dev to fix this

Suggestion 2:
This suggestion is build upon the basis that players are honest, in which we have already informed them about by trusting they don't pause in the middle of maps to maintain upmost legitimacy.

Suggesting to break maps into separate compartments (singular maps) so that the glitch will rarely happen

Probably some issues I will counter beforehand

Bonus scoring: As there is another factor that goes into a mania scoring, thus may be an issue, but I personally think that this is negligible compared to the score loss currently
HP: HP gauge is reset when changing maps, currently, I can only think of Zenith being applicable for this criteria as the last 3 charts have a large enough intro to refill HP anyways (I might be wrong), not sute about Gamma and Azimuth, I kinda forgot how they played
Combo: eeeeeh not so important tbh
Break Time: the biggest issue here for breaking maps into separate components imo, loading time and Audioleadin result screen time is hard to keep fair amongst the players, not too sure about this

Would be great if Suggestion 1 actually went through but Suggestion 2 would be a temporary fix for now, I might need to mark these scores as a "unique case"

Edit: spelling mistake
Topic Starter
Jinjin
As mentioned in the main post, the 7K Insane & Extra dans are getting a complete revamp! We now have two separate courses coming soon: Regular Dan and LN Dan. The first 4 Insane Regular Dans have been completed, and you may download them here: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/965654
Frustration
LN dan hype
Evening
the first 4 regular dans in 1 image i guess ~
Hinpoppo

Evening wrote:

the first 4 regular dans in 1 image i guess ~
Dude that's fucking sick
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Update: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/450649
The first four Insane LN Dans have been uploaded (awesome BG by Evening is soon to come)
Frustration
spica

!!

edit: was it supposed to be cut off like that lol
Topic Starter
Jinjin
(working really hard on pushing out dans as quickly as possible, probably won't be the case soon as we have to be very selective on which maps to pick)
but here it is! The Insane Level Regular 4th~7th dan courses have been released!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/451788

(update: decided to replace Crow solace with tldne extra diff, will update soon)
Evening
Preview again ~
Topic Starter
Jinjin
LN 4th ~ 7th dan have been released~
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/976728
stryver12
The note glitch seems fixed with latest build.
Tested with revamped courses.
ArcherLove
wat I don't know my map is on the 0 dan LN lol

also 5th

going to try this after done with workkkk
Kurisu Makise
Wow, reworked courses seem so much better. Thank you for your work!

P.S. Songs in LN packs are beautiful.

P.P.S. I'm surprised that you took my diff, lol.
aitor98


Can't wait for Gamma~Zenith to come out!
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Update: Regular Dans are now finished with the release of Extra Level Dans! Are you up to the challenge? Good luck!

Extra Dan Course (Regular) Download Link
ggsnipess
neat, now for the ln dans to be finished







in one year :sun_with_face:
Topic Starter
Jinjin


Jakads becomes the first person to pass Zenith Dan! Congrats on your huge achievement!
__Chiya__
Thx Nice Map ;)
fresh_kid
I have a feeling that normal 10th is harder than regular insane 0 and 1st dan. Was that intended?
Yuudachi-kun

fresh_kid wrote:

I have a feeling that normal 10th is harder than regular insane 0 and 1st dan. Was that intended?
All you have to do to complete normal is pass
You have to 96% 0th and 1st insane

Doesn't it seem obvious that normal 10th should be a bit harder?

I don't play 7k I just randomly clicked in here huehuehuae
fresh_kid

Khelly wrote:

All you have to do to complete normal is pass
You have to 96% 0th and 1st insane
yeah forgot about it. My bad.
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Updated the Insane Level LN Dan courses with lower OD and added BGs!
InabaYap
LN 6
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275275
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275282

Edit: Derp! So time to say some crap to stay on topic instead.
From my playing LN Dan 4's nyan cat has a relatively scary amount of bms patterns, imo lowering the OD might have a significant impact there.
Don't see much problems on other dans yet.
Topic Starter
Jinjin

InabaYap wrote:

LN 6
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275275
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275282
Nice job, but you should post this to the dan rankings thread :D
Topic Starter
Jinjin
The last third of the LN Insane Level Dan courses have been released!
8th ~ 11th LN Dan here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/525735
ggsnipess
i can smell the extra dans
eurekaria
I think LN dan OD is too low.. at least for lower dan...
Topic Starter
Jinjin

eurekaria wrote:

I think LN dan OD is too low.. at least for lower dan...
we've received multiple complaints that the OD for LN is too high (was previously at 7)
But after some extensive feedback, we felt like OD 5 is the best way to go across all dans


changing our topics a bit here:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/529168
The Extra LN Dans have been released! With that, the osu!mania 7K Dan Course is finally complete.
(We may fix some balance issues for earlier dans before we're *completely* finished with the Dan Courses tho)
ggsnipess
time to see who actually holds 95 on zenith




like, at max chyoic might be able to but looks balls
Topic Starter
Jinjin
With a bit of a leniency in the rule for pausing during LN Zenith dan course, MJ1997 becomes the first player to pass LN Zenith! Grats for such an extraordinary achievement.
Febrimillia-Kun
Time To get 3 Digit rank After Pass Map Thx Jinjin ^^
- Revi -
is using scorev2 allowed?
dewero
I would suspect not; scorev2 changes LN mechanics and accuracy values among other things, so scores/accuracy can't be exactly equated between the two systems.

Of course, I'm not Jinjin, and now that scorev2 is in the stable client, maybe some thought should be given towards using scorev2 vs scorev1 to judge dan clears...
Evening
think there's a bit too many parameters to consider for ranking, besides it's not finalized yet so scores will become invalidated if something about accuracy/hp drain is changed

avoid score v2 for now
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Hello everyone! It's been a while. I would like to address some changes made to the Zenith Regular Dan:

The regular Zenith Dan has been buffed (significantly!) We have found out from various playthroughs that the gap between Azimuth and Zenith was too small (and some people even thought Azimuth was harder than Zenith), and while people barely pass the LN Zenith, some people could pass Regular Zenith with ease (and with acc up to 98%)

After some planning, we have decided to buff the Regular Zenith dan so that it is a lot more challenging even to the best vsrg players in the world. You will notice that the new Zenith Dan is much more difficult than what it used to be. Do you think you have what it takes? Good luck!
ggsnipess
what the actual fuck lmfao, time to watch this destroy someone mentally.
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Another wave of changes coming in our way for the 7K Dan courses!
Planned changes:
  1. Reworking a lot of the Regular / LN dans in order to make them more consistent with their difficulty
  2. Revisiting Normal Dans and uploading them sometime in the near future
  3. Adding background for the 7K LN Extra level courses


These updates will probably be done in small increments rather than one huge update (due to the limited time that I have for this every day)
Illya X Ram Li
Challange ? :u
Androix777
Is 1st 7k LN dan easier than 0th 7k LN dan?
Or is it just for me?
Worms
idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but in the insane regular 8th dan zenithalize has a pattern which is waaaay too right hand biased
basically anyone who uses their left thumb at this skill level (aka me) will most likely wont be able to get an S on this, let alone 96%

Topic Starter
Jinjin

Worms wrote:

idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but in the insane regular 8th dan zenithalize has a pattern which is waaaay too right hand biased
basically anyone who uses their left thumb at this skill level (aka me) will most likely wont be able to get an S on this, let alone 96%

Good point :P will try to fix the pattern when I'm free
Worms

Jinjin wrote:

Worms wrote:

idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but in the insane regular 8th dan zenithalize has a pattern which is waaaay too right hand biased
basically anyone who uses their left thumb at this skill level (aka me) will most likely wont be able to get an S on this, let alone 96%

Good point :P will try to fix the pattern when I'm free
sweet, thanks!
Worms
o wait nvm its already fixed in the dan, im just bad xd
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Worms wrote:

o wait nvm its already fixed in the dan, im just bad xd
xd
Worms
speaking of which



LUL

96.86 95.89 96.61 96.56
Topic Starter
Jinjin
We will be reworking the 7K Dan courses for better balance across each level & organize the structure!
If you are interested, please join our discord server using the following link below:
https://discord.gg/2edaSv3
DoNotMess
ouch it hurts when I use iidx layout controller playing this stair based pattern in regular 2nd dan :'( 95.97% broke my soul
DemoJesus
Cool
aderama senju
Thanks for Educations :)
entershift124
this is epic
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