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osu!mania 7K Dan (段) Courses (Judge your 7K Skills!)

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spoonguy
chinchin is etttttttttttttttttt

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seriously though kakuzetsu thanathos at hp9 and it's not even the hardest song of the course lmaaaao
i'm interested to see who the hell passes this
Evening
So as to give some context to other people Sern888 recently cleared Azimuth which is an impressive feat but due to the note glitch, he did significantly worse at the final 2 songs.
Note Glitch: notes at the further end of a long and dense chart (pretty much around >7 mins length) notes will start to load slower, this means that sometimes notes can "appear" in the middle of the mania stage instead of starting at the top, this glitch gets worse as the chart gets longer/denser

Suggestion 1:
Pretty sure this has been reported before but I guess you can bump that thread or contact a suitable dev to fix this

Suggestion 2:
This suggestion is build upon the basis that players are honest, in which we have already informed them about by trusting they don't pause in the middle of maps to maintain upmost legitimacy.

Suggesting to break maps into separate compartments (singular maps) so that the glitch will rarely happen

Probably some issues I will counter beforehand

Bonus scoring: As there is another factor that goes into a mania scoring, thus may be an issue, but I personally think that this is negligible compared to the score loss currently
HP: HP gauge is reset when changing maps, currently, I can only think of Zenith being applicable for this criteria as the last 3 charts have a large enough intro to refill HP anyways (I might be wrong), not sute about Gamma and Azimuth, I kinda forgot how they played
Combo: eeeeeh not so important tbh
Break Time: the biggest issue here for breaking maps into separate components imo, loading time and Audioleadin result screen time is hard to keep fair amongst the players, not too sure about this

Would be great if Suggestion 1 actually went through but Suggestion 2 would be a temporary fix for now, I might need to mark these scores as a "unique case"

Edit: spelling mistake
Topic Starter
Jinjin
As mentioned in the main post, the 7K Insane & Extra dans are getting a complete revamp! We now have two separate courses coming soon: Regular Dan and LN Dan. The first 4 Insane Regular Dans have been completed, and you may download them here: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/965654
Frustration
LN dan hype
Evening
the first 4 regular dans in 1 image i guess ~
Hinpoppo

Evening wrote:

the first 4 regular dans in 1 image i guess ~
Dude that's fucking sick
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Update: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/450649
The first four Insane LN Dans have been uploaded (awesome BG by Evening is soon to come)
Frustration
spica

!!

edit: was it supposed to be cut off like that lol
Topic Starter
Jinjin
(working really hard on pushing out dans as quickly as possible, probably won't be the case soon as we have to be very selective on which maps to pick)
but here it is! The Insane Level Regular 4th~7th dan courses have been released!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/451788

(update: decided to replace Crow solace with tldne extra diff, will update soon)
Evening
Preview again ~
Topic Starter
Jinjin
LN 4th ~ 7th dan have been released~
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/976728
stryver12
The note glitch seems fixed with latest build.
Tested with revamped courses.
ArcherLove
wat I don't know my map is on the 0 dan LN lol

also 5th

going to try this after done with workkkk
Kurisu Makise
Wow, reworked courses seem so much better. Thank you for your work!

P.S. Songs in LN packs are beautiful.

P.P.S. I'm surprised that you took my diff, lol.
aitor98


Can't wait for Gamma~Zenith to come out!
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Update: Regular Dans are now finished with the release of Extra Level Dans! Are you up to the challenge? Good luck!

Extra Dan Course (Regular) Download Link
ggsnipess
neat, now for the ln dans to be finished







in one year :sun_with_face:
Topic Starter
Jinjin


Jakads becomes the first person to pass Zenith Dan! Congrats on your huge achievement!
__Chiya__
Thx Nice Map ;)
fresh_kid
I have a feeling that normal 10th is harder than regular insane 0 and 1st dan. Was that intended?
Yuudachi-kun

fresh_kid wrote:

I have a feeling that normal 10th is harder than regular insane 0 and 1st dan. Was that intended?
All you have to do to complete normal is pass
You have to 96% 0th and 1st insane

Doesn't it seem obvious that normal 10th should be a bit harder?

I don't play 7k I just randomly clicked in here huehuehuae
fresh_kid

Khelly wrote:

All you have to do to complete normal is pass
You have to 96% 0th and 1st insane
yeah forgot about it. My bad.
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Updated the Insane Level LN Dan courses with lower OD and added BGs!
InabaYap
LN 6
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275275
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275282

Edit: Derp! So time to say some crap to stay on topic instead.
From my playing LN Dan 4's nyan cat has a relatively scary amount of bms patterns, imo lowering the OD might have a significant impact there.
Don't see much problems on other dans yet.
Topic Starter
Jinjin

InabaYap wrote:

LN 6
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275275
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275282
Nice job, but you should post this to the dan rankings thread :D
Topic Starter
Jinjin
The last third of the LN Insane Level Dan courses have been released!
8th ~ 11th LN Dan here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/525735
ggsnipess
i can smell the extra dans
eurekaria
I think LN dan OD is too low.. at least for lower dan...
Topic Starter
Jinjin

eurekaria wrote:

I think LN dan OD is too low.. at least for lower dan...
we've received multiple complaints that the OD for LN is too high (was previously at 7)
But after some extensive feedback, we felt like OD 5 is the best way to go across all dans


changing our topics a bit here:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/529168
The Extra LN Dans have been released! With that, the osu!mania 7K Dan Course is finally complete.
(We may fix some balance issues for earlier dans before we're *completely* finished with the Dan Courses tho)
ggsnipess
time to see who actually holds 95 on zenith




like, at max chyoic might be able to but looks balls
Topic Starter
Jinjin
With a bit of a leniency in the rule for pausing during LN Zenith dan course, MJ1997 becomes the first player to pass LN Zenith! Grats for such an extraordinary achievement.
Febrimillia-Kun
Time To get 3 Digit rank After Pass Map Thx Jinjin ^^
Selegiline
is using scorev2 allowed?
dewero
I would suspect not; scorev2 changes LN mechanics and accuracy values among other things, so scores/accuracy can't be exactly equated between the two systems.

Of course, I'm not Jinjin, and now that scorev2 is in the stable client, maybe some thought should be given towards using scorev2 vs scorev1 to judge dan clears...
Evening
think there's a bit too many parameters to consider for ranking, besides it's not finalized yet so scores will become invalidated if something about accuracy/hp drain is changed

avoid score v2 for now
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Hello everyone! It's been a while. I would like to address some changes made to the Zenith Regular Dan:

The regular Zenith Dan has been buffed (significantly!) We have found out from various playthroughs that the gap between Azimuth and Zenith was too small (and some people even thought Azimuth was harder than Zenith), and while people barely pass the LN Zenith, some people could pass Regular Zenith with ease (and with acc up to 98%)

After some planning, we have decided to buff the Regular Zenith dan so that it is a lot more challenging even to the best vsrg players in the world. You will notice that the new Zenith Dan is much more difficult than what it used to be. Do you think you have what it takes? Good luck!
ggsnipess
what the actual fuck lmfao, time to watch this destroy someone mentally.
Topic Starter
Jinjin
Another wave of changes coming in our way for the 7K Dan courses!
Planned changes:
  1. Reworking a lot of the Regular / LN dans in order to make them more consistent with their difficulty
  2. Revisiting Normal Dans and uploading them sometime in the near future
  3. Adding background for the 7K LN Extra level courses


These updates will probably be done in small increments rather than one huge update (due to the limited time that I have for this every day)
Illya X Ram Li
Challange ? :u
Androix777
Is 1st 7k LN dan easier than 0th 7k LN dan?
Or is it just for me?
Worms
idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but in the insane regular 8th dan zenithalize has a pattern which is waaaay too right hand biased
basically anyone who uses their left thumb at this skill level (aka me) will most likely wont be able to get an S on this, let alone 96%

Topic Starter
Jinjin

Worms wrote:

idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but in the insane regular 8th dan zenithalize has a pattern which is waaaay too right hand biased
basically anyone who uses their left thumb at this skill level (aka me) will most likely wont be able to get an S on this, let alone 96%

Good point :P will try to fix the pattern when I'm free
Worms

Jinjin wrote:

Worms wrote:

idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but in the insane regular 8th dan zenithalize has a pattern which is waaaay too right hand biased
basically anyone who uses their left thumb at this skill level (aka me) will most likely wont be able to get an S on this, let alone 96%

Good point :P will try to fix the pattern when I'm free
sweet, thanks!
Worms
o wait nvm its already fixed in the dan, im just bad xd
Topic Starter
Jinjin

Worms wrote:

o wait nvm its already fixed in the dan, im just bad xd
xd
Worms
speaking of which



LUL

96.86 95.89 96.61 96.56
Topic Starter
Jinjin
We will be reworking the 7K Dan courses for better balance across each level & organize the structure!
If you are interested, please join our discord server using the following link below:
https://discord.gg/2edaSv3
DoNotMess
ouch it hurts when I use iidx layout controller playing this stair based pattern in regular 2nd dan :'( 95.97% broke my soul
DemoJesus
Cool
aderama senju
Thanks for Educations :)
entershift124
this is epic
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