sorry for the long wait, 8th dan is coming very soon

Really nice!
I'm a mania noob and follwo your guide as some form of "training with increased difficulty" and I'm currently at the α-4 (4th Dan) - ☆2.12 and hit a little wall, because the note density is getting higher and thus my reading abillity really gets bad.
I need to learn more patterns I guess, since alot of the more complex or fast patterns (especially stairs or layers LN's) are throwing me off.
Btw could it be, that the star ranking in mania is not really helpfull?
Some 2.2 star maps are really easy and some are walls of notes and really fast patterns that are nearly unreadable for me.
Is that normal?

cheers

Yes it is normal.
Denser maps are rated higher, whether the pattern is easy to play or not. Well there are some underrate issues with maps with tons of Long Notes despite being dense (play area being cluttered with long notes, not note count).

ARCskieZ wrote:

Really nice!
Btw could it be, that the star ranking in mania is not really helpfull?

Yes. Star rating is currently very broken in a few well known ways. For example, LNs are terribly underrated, while large chords, in particular chord jacks are overrated as hell.

Star rating should only be seen as a very rough guide to difficulty.

Update: 8th Dan + HP value readjustment (as decided by spoonguy)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ys6rvx88bzryo ... l.osz?dl=0

yea blame it all on me lmao
Anyway some dans will be changed in order to fit the new HP value (such as the 7th dan, which is currently harder than 8th because of the bursty maps) so look forward to that too.

aaaaaaand rip all the 7k insane scores

Why not submitting these maps?

Also, could you please link the maps that are used? It's kinda better if we don't have to search for every single maps to download.

Cool !

NXTKitKat wrote:

Why not submitting these maps?

Also, could you please link the maps that are used? It's kinda better if we don't have to search for every single maps to download.

Yup, I'll start doing this ^^


Also, Insane 9th dan has been uploaded!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/caszerehqec3o ... l.osz?dl=0

iJinjin wrote:

NXTKitKat wrote:

Why not submitting these maps?

Also, could you please link the maps that are used? It's kinda better if we don't have to search for every single maps to download.

Yup, I'll start doing this ^^


Also, Insane 9th dan has been uploaded!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/caszerehqec3o ... l.osz?dl=0

gud sheet

https://www.dropbox.com/s/caszerehqec3o ... l.osz?dl=0

Update: made Insane 10th Dan today too (wew)

This means that all Insane Dans are now complete!

Update: The first of the extra level dan course is finally here! Do you have what it takes to tackle the extra dan? Go ahead, see for yourself!
Download available through this link or the main forum post

iJinjin wrote:

Update: The first of the extra level dan course is finally here! Do you have what it takes to tackle the extra dan? Go ahead, see for yourself!
Download available through this link or the main forum post

wow fast

holy shit dude, you're going ham

Another Update once again! : Azimuth Dan is ready! Download link bundled with the Gamma dan available here

It's finally done! The hardest dan finally made its way!
Here's the complete download link for all the extra dan courses

Took you long enough to get this done zzzzz

gud job doe








chyoic for zenith pass

iJinjin wrote:

It's finally done! The hardest dan finally made its way!
Here's the complete download link for all the extra dan courses

oh boy who will be the first to clear this !?!?!?

just clearing it is okay ? (doesn't require high accuracy?)

yep, 7k dans just need a pass and you're good, I don't think anyone would be able to keep a 95% or above run on zenith lol

yup, just need to clear ^^

chinchin is etttttttttttttttttt

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seriously though kakuzetsu thanathos at hp9 and it's not even the hardest song of the course lmaaaao
i'm interested to see who the hell passes this

So as to give some context to other people Sern888 recently cleared Azimuth which is an impressive feat but due to the note glitch, he did significantly worse at the final 2 songs.
Note Glitch: notes at the further end of a long and dense chart (pretty much around >7 mins length) notes will start to load slower, this means that sometimes notes can "appear" in the middle of the mania stage instead of starting at the top, this glitch gets worse as the chart gets longer/denser

Suggestion 1:
Pretty sure this has been reported before but I guess you can bump that thread or contact a suitable dev to fix this

Suggestion 2:
This suggestion is build upon the basis that players are honest, in which we have already informed them about by trusting they don't pause in the middle of maps to maintain upmost legitimacy.

Suggesting to break maps into separate compartments (singular maps) so that the glitch will rarely happen

Probably some issues I will counter beforehand

Bonus scoring: As there is another factor that goes into a mania scoring, thus may be an issue, but I personally think that this is negligible compared to the score loss currently
HP: HP gauge is reset when changing maps, currently, I can only think of Zenith being applicable for this criteria as the last 3 charts have a large enough intro to refill HP anyways (I might be wrong), not sute about Gamma and Azimuth, I kinda forgot how they played
Combo: eeeeeh not so important tbh
Break Time: the biggest issue here for breaking maps into separate components imo, loading time and Audioleadin result screen time is hard to keep fair amongst the players, not too sure about this

Would be great if Suggestion 1 actually went through but Suggestion 2 would be a temporary fix for now, I might need to mark these scores as a "unique case"

Edit: spelling mistake

As mentioned in the main post, the 7K Insane & Extra dans are getting a complete revamp! We now have two separate courses coming soon: Regular Dan and LN Dan. The first 4 Insane Regular Dans have been completed, and you may download them here: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/965654

LN dan hype

the first 4 regular dans in 1 image i guess ~

SPOILER

Evening wrote:

the first 4 regular dans in 1 image i guess ~

Dude that's fucking sick

Update: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/450649
The first four Insane LN Dans have been uploaded (awesome BG by Evening is soon to come)

spica

!!

edit: was it supposed to be cut off like that lol

(working really hard on pushing out dans as quickly as possible, probably won't be the case soon as we have to be very selective on which maps to pick)
but here it is! The Insane Level Regular 4th~7th dan courses have been released!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/451788

(update: decided to replace Crow solace with tldne extra diff, will update soon)

Preview again ~

LN 4th ~ 7th dan have been released~
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/976728

The note glitch seems fixed with latest build.
Tested with revamped courses.

wat I don't know my map is on the 0 dan LN lol

also 5th

going to try this after done with workkkk

Wow, reworked courses seem so much better. Thank you for your work!

P.S. Songs in LN packs are beautiful.

P.P.S. I'm surprised that you took my diff, lol.

Can't wait for Gamma~Zenith to come out!

Update: Regular Dans are now finished with the release of Extra Level Dans! Are you up to the challenge? Good luck!

Extra Dan Course (Regular) Download Link

neat, now for the ln dans to be finished







in one year :sun_with_face:

Thx Nice Map

I have a feeling that normal 10th is harder than regular insane 0 and 1st dan. Was that intended?

fresh_kid wrote:

I have a feeling that normal 10th is harder than regular insane 0 and 1st dan. Was that intended?

All you have to do to complete normal is pass
You have to 96% 0th and 1st insane

Doesn't it seem obvious that normal 10th should be a bit harder?

I don't play 7k I just randomly clicked in here huehuehuae

Khelly wrote:

All you have to do to complete normal is pass
You have to 96% 0th and 1st insane

yeah forgot about it. My bad.

Updated the Insane Level LN Dan courses with lower OD and added BGs!

LN 6
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275275
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275282

Edit: Derp! So time to say some crap to stay on topic instead.
From my playing LN Dan 4's nyan cat has a relatively scary amount of bms patterns, imo lowering the OD might have a significant impact there.
Don't see much problems on other dans yet.

InabaYap wrote:

LN 6
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275275
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275282

Nice job, but you should post this to the dan rankings thread

The last third of the LN Insane Level Dan courses have been released!
8th ~ 11th LN Dan here: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/525735

i can smell the extra dans

I think LN dan OD is too low.. at least for lower dan...

time to see who actually holds 95 on zenith




like, at max chyoic might be able to but looks balls

With a bit of a leniency in the rule for pausing during LN Zenith dan course, MJ1997 becomes the first player to pass LN Zenith! Grats for such an extraordinary achievement.

Time To get 3 Digit rank After Pass Map Thx Jinjin ^^

is using scorev2 allowed?

I would suspect not; scorev2 changes LN mechanics and accuracy values among other things, so scores/accuracy can't be exactly equated between the two systems.

Of course, I'm not Jinjin, and now that scorev2 is in the stable client, maybe some thought should be given towards using scorev2 vs scorev1 to judge dan clears...

think there's a bit too many parameters to consider for ranking, besides it's not finalized yet so scores will become invalidated if something about accuracy/hp drain is changed

avoid score v2 for now

Hello everyone! It's been a while. I would like to address some changes made to the Zenith Regular Dan:

The regular Zenith Dan has been buffed (significantly!) We have found out from various playthroughs that the gap between Azimuth and Zenith was too small (and some people even thought Azimuth was harder than Zenith), and while people barely pass the LN Zenith, some people could pass Regular Zenith with ease (and with acc up to 98%)

After some planning, we have decided to buff the Regular Zenith dan so that it is a lot more challenging even to the best vsrg players in the world. You will notice that the new Zenith Dan is much more difficult than what it used to be. Do you think you have what it takes? Good luck!

what the actual fuck lmfao, time to watch this destroy someone mentally.

Another wave of changes coming in our way for the 7K Dan courses!
Planned changes:

1. Reworking a lot of the Regular / LN dans in order to make them more consistent with their difficulty
2. Revisiting Normal Dans and uploading them sometime in the near future
3. Adding background for the 7K LN Extra level courses

These updates will probably be done in small increments rather than one huge update (due to the limited time that I have for this every day)

Challange ? :u

Is 1st 7k LN dan easier than 0th 7k LN dan?
Or is it just for me?

idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but in the insane regular 8th dan zenithalize has a pattern which is waaaay too right hand biased
basically anyone who uses their left thumb at this skill level (aka me) will most likely wont be able to get an S on this, let alone 96%

Worms wrote:

idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but in the insane regular 8th dan zenithalize has a pattern which is waaaay too right hand biased
basically anyone who uses their left thumb at this skill level (aka me) will most likely wont be able to get an S on this, let alone 96%

Good point will try to fix the pattern when I'm free

Jinjin wrote:

Worms wrote:

idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but in the insane regular 8th dan zenithalize has a pattern which is waaaay too right hand biased
basically anyone who uses their left thumb at this skill level (aka me) will most likely wont be able to get an S on this, let alone 96%

Good point will try to fix the pattern when I'm free

sweet, thanks!

o wait nvm its already fixed in the dan, im just bad xd

Worms wrote:

o wait nvm its already fixed in the dan, im just bad xd

xd

speaking of which



LUL

96.86 95.89 96.61 96.56

We will be reworking the 7K Dan courses for better balance across each level & organize the structure!
If you are interested, please join our discord server using the following link below:
https://discord.gg/2edaSv3

ouch it hurts when I use iidx layout controller playing this stair based pattern in regular 2nd dan :'( 95.97% broke my soul

Cool

Thanks for Educations

this is epic