When you're adept at alternating you don't have to think about which finger to use AT ALL, you just look at the rhythm you need to play, like everyone else.
When you're adept at the game you don't have to think about how to play the game AT ALL, you just look at the maps, like everyone else.a loli wrote:
Who would've thought that years of experience could mitigate the downfall of a playstyle.
KukiMonster wrote:
There is no advantage in full alternating asside from conserving stamina during singles.
These points have been made. I demonstrated how they're not true, and how learning proper alternation (which OP is trying to do, and you're trying to say is useless as opposed to messy alternation) offers benefits in fact.chainpullz wrote:
It truly is an arbitrary constraint.
Helping you do proper alternating at hard parts too, not aesthetic.Kunino Sagiri wrote:
So what's the end goal/mission of this script? A better ratio of your K1 to K2 a.k.a Aesthetic?
...a loli wrote:
What exactly is the argument you are trying to make?
OP reads as though he is having trouble alternating properly on Bursts and multiple sets of triples, i.e. XXZXZXZ and is getting 100s all as a result of tensing his hands during streams.G3TTR1GG3R3D wrote:
I'm a full alternater and over the past few weeks I've started playing more maps with burts/streams. However I wasn't paying too much attention to the pattern in which I was clicking those bursts/streams and I've developed (what I would consider) a bad habit of inconsistently starting them. That is I would end up double tapping one key or the other a lot in complicated patterns. This has culminated in me not being able to handle complicated patterns with any consistency.
Your """"proper"""" alternating that this script could potentially give you, is a """"better"""" K1:K2 ratio which is Aesthetic.Drezi wrote:
Helping you do proper alternating at hard parts too
You're half right. After looking at this and thinking about it some more I've realised what the problem actually was. My hands weren't cramping during the streams but at the start and end of the streams when I double tapped.Xyrusd0t0 wrote:
OP reads as though he is having trouble alternating properly on Bursts and multiple sets of triples, i.e. XXZXZXZ and is getting 100s all as a result of tensing his hands during streams.
The problem probably isn't the pattern he alternates with, but the unnecessary tension in his hand.
why don't you read what I've posted??? how hard is it to understand that it's not the case. omg. p/5012660Kunino Sagiri wrote:
Your """"proper"""" alternating that this script could potentially give you, is a """"better"""" K1:K2 ratio which is Aesthetic.
you mean this?Drezi wrote:
why don't you read what I've posted??? how hard is it to understand that it's not the case
If you can't even establish what proper alternating is then you have no right to talk about efficiency. It's like a person talking about how hamburgers should be made or else it's not a hamburger when all he does is eat and didn't even bother to learn how to make them.Drezi wrote:
The whole point was to show the advantage of fully alternating those transitions, not to debate which qualifies as "proper alternating". And there are no mental disadvantages to either.
Good thing there aren't that many stream maps above 270KukiMonster wrote:
The mental disadvantage is the fact that if you do not alternate this way, you're forcing a tapping style that is not natural for you and will probably have to double the effort to get anywhere in the game, which seems to be OP's dilemma. But in the end it does not matter, because you will be capped by stream and move speed whether you alternate or single tap.
yes there is, but it's called training good habits, so it's what becomes natural (if you want to be an alternater, that is).Khelly wrote:
Theres a mental disadvantage when you force yourself to alternate perfectly rather than plaing naturally
And I'm not calling forcing yourself to perfectly alternate no matter what a good habit.Drezi wrote:
yes there is, but it's called training good habits, so it's what becomes natural.Khelly wrote:
Theres a mental disadvantage when you force yourself to alternate perfectly rather than plaing naturally
And for most people, none of that is natural, even though it feels right for you. But your play style was most likely not like this since your first day playing osu, it most likely developed over the years and it's what feels just right for you.Khelly wrote:
I'm a singletapper and I almost always alternate successive sliders or slider note slider patterns (even in a jump) because that feels like the right thing to do. But sometimes I don't alternate those sliders, or sometimes I'll alternate to a stacked singletap section with my other finger and singletap those until the stack is done then alternate back to the next slider.
Then what's the point of this script? It seems like it's trying to force someone to play in a certain way only because they think they should do that rather than just playing and letting it happen.koromo wrote:
Same applies to alternating, whether it happens naturally like in my case or you actively practice for it, the end result is the same, you get used to something and it simply becomes your way of doing things, it doesn't feel forced and doesn't hurt accuracy or aim at all, there's no drawback if it's what you're used to and feel comfortable doing it.
Well if we're talking about the script then I also agree it's a bad idea. There is no need for a script like this even if OP wants to alternate perfectly, that's just silly.Khelly wrote:
Then what's the point of this script? It seems like it's trying to force someone to play in a certain way only because they think they should do that rather than just playing and letting it happen.
I think I've said this two or three times already, but the point was that I couldn't tell when I was double tapping during fast and/or complicated sections, which was in turn putting strains on my hand that would lead to my fingers locking. The the script gave me immediate visual feedback when I was double tapping, thus allowing me to much more quickly fix the problem than if I had concentrated on doing so without it.koromo wrote:
Well if we're talking about the script then I also agree it's a bad idea. There is no need for a script like this even if OP wants to alternate perfectly, that's just silly.
Not saying he shouldn't try at all, just saying the script gives him 0 benefits while messing up his plays. Just practice normally instead.
Then I don't know why Khelly would bring it up now, I haven't been actively following the discussion, was just replying to what was said to me.G3TTR1GG3R3D wrote:
I think I've said this two or three times already, but the point was that I couldn't tell when I was double tapping during fast and/or complicated sections, which was in turn putting strains on my hand that would lead to my fingers locking. The the script gave me immediate visual feedback when I was double tapping, thus allowing me to much more quickly fix the problem than if I had concentrated on doing so without it.
I found it to be very effective as I got rid of all of the problems with a few hours of playing with the script and stopped using it. I have used it once or twice more to check if I've fallen back into bad habits and so far all is good.
Did you even read first postMio Winter wrote:
This is amazing and I love you if it works, but the question remains: Will I get banned for using it while logged in?
I did read the bold red text, but the comments on it were less certain about whether it was bannable. I asked in case someone had verification about whether or not it was bannable.KupcaH wrote:
Did you even read first postMio Winter wrote:
This is amazing and I love you if it works, but the question remains: Will I get banned for using it while logged in?
Hei, Z. o/zeplic wrote:
McOsu has a forced alternating mod for practice purposes that is not ran on a server.