IV5. Do not insult other players personally.Mashley wrote:
Want to explain how telling people about a suspicious PM you sent me is suspicious? Or are you just accusing me for the hell of it? And didn't you just admit to being scum a few posts ago? >_<
he wasn't insulting youNakata Yuji wrote:
IV5. Do not insult other players personally.
tread carefully.
I wrote:
so why exactly haven't you posted what you said that he didn't show
just saw this now...Two wrote:
so why exactly haven't you posted what you said that he didn't show
oh.Two wrote:
scum is used to refer to the mafia, wolves, or what have you
it's not derogatory if that's what you interpreted it as
Nah, the guy I voted seems more likely to be scum than them, and even if he isn't he still a sucky player.
think so...?Two wrote:
also that is a really pathetic excuse
12:58 <@stragerLN> Wow
12:58 <@stragerLN> People are REALLY sheeping into nakata
12:59 <@stragerLN> he/she is CLEARLY a joker. He/she has been setting it up from the start.
12:59 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=496602#p496602
12:59 <@stragerLN> last comment.
13:00 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=496727#p496727
13:00 <@stragerLN> Blatantly lying, and telling people to vote for someone without voting for them herself?
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=497875#p497875
13:01 <@stragerLN> I dunno what to think of this. Probably a newb mistake, though. I don't find it that suspicious, contrary
to some others.
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=497879#p497879
13:01 <@stragerLN> == scummy
13:01 <@stragerLN> (as has been pointed out)
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498479#p498479
13:01 <@stragerLN> Gave up "playfully"; Joker tell
13:02 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498489#p498489
13:02 <@stragerLN> More joker or vanilla tells
13:02 <@stragerLN> (But we all have special roles so there's no real vanilla ... though maybe I'm wrong)
13:02 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498518#p498518
13:03 <@stragerLN> She only brought this up LATER, which means what she said in this post wasn't the reason she posted what she
did post in her previous post.
13:03 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498587#p498587
13:04 <@stragerLN> Avoiding the question; "you already know"; scummy behaviour
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498605#p498605
13:04 <@stragerLN> same
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498612#p498612
13:04 <@stragerLN> She complained about personal insults, and here she is, being insulting
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498618#p498618
13:04 <@stragerLN> More vanilla/joker
oh, it's because i wanted the day to end. tbh you had 2 votes, same as wojjan, which is why0_o wrote:
Nataka: why did you want to vote for me? I only had one post at a time, and it was a Finding Nemo quote.
!Cuddlebun wrote:
acting as strager's proxy until he is unbanned:12:58 <@stragerLN> Wow
12:58 <@stragerLN> People are REALLY sheeping into nakata
12:59 <@stragerLN> he/she is CLEARLY a joker. He/she has been setting it up from the start.
12:59 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=496602#p496602
12:59 <@stragerLN> last comment.
13:00 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=496727#p496727
13:00 <@stragerLN> Blatantly lying, and telling people to vote for someone without voting for them herself?
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=497875#p497875
13:01 <@stragerLN> I dunno what to think of this. Probably a newb mistake, though. I don't find it that suspicious, contrary
to some others.
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=497879#p497879
13:01 <@stragerLN> == scummy
13:01 <@stragerLN> (as has been pointed out)
13:01 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498479#p498479
13:01 <@stragerLN> Gave up "playfully"; Joker tell
13:02 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498489#p498489
13:02 <@stragerLN> More joker or vanilla tells
13:02 <@stragerLN> (But we all have special roles so there's no real vanilla ... though maybe I'm wrong)
13:02 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498518#p498518
13:03 <@stragerLN> She only brought this up LATER, which means what she said in this post wasn't the reason she posted what she
did post in her previous post.
13:03 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498587#p498587
13:04 <@stragerLN> Avoiding the question; "you already know"; scummy behaviour
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498605#p498605
13:04 <@stragerLN> same
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498612#p498612
13:04 <@stragerLN> She complained about personal insults, and here she is, being insulting
13:04 <@stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498618#p498618
13:04 <@stragerLN> More vanilla/joker
i surmise something like a trollTwo wrote:
what the hell is a joker
in my case, i kind of want to play, but i don't mind if i get lynched.0_o wrote:
A joker wins when he is lynched, loses if he is NK'd/alive when the game ends.
i think it's probably self satisfaction.Two wrote:
What does "the joker wins when he is lynched" mean? It's like a third faction (town/mafia/joker)? If so that is really dumb.
[13:39] <stragerLN> Mention that the game still continues if the Joker wins or loses
[13:39] <stragerLN> also
[13:39] <stragerLN> viewtopic.php?p=498675#p498675
[13:39] <stragerLN> Didn't deny it
[13:39] <stragerLN> +1 for being a joker
Yeah, it's a third party. Unvote.Two wrote:
What does "the joker wins when he is lynched" mean? It's like a third faction (town/mafia/joker)? If so that is really dumb.
is that so...DiamondCrash wrote:
You lied.
DiamondCrash wrote:
You lied.
the fact that you don't know....Wojjan wrote:
LS' Big Mafia 1 had a Jester which basically is the joker.
I don't believe this joker crap though. Either Nakata is really really dumb, really really really dumb or really smart.
Judging them I'm inching towards one of the first two.
I wouldn't say he's dumb, he's just new to this stuff that's all.Wojjan wrote:
Either Nakata is really really dumb, really really really dumb or really smart.
Judging them I'm inching towards one of the first two.
Why would they nightkill himher? If the game continues even after a joker's death, I don't see the downside for the mafia. I don't even see a point to the joker role existing except to help the mafia... so please tell me how what you said makes sense.0_o wrote:
Anyway, if he is the jester and none of us want a shared win, then a fairly standard way of dealing with it is by not lynching him today and letting the mafia NK him tonight. If he is not NK'd tonight then we lynch him tomorrow. This way, if he is a predator then yay, we lynch a predator tomorrow. If not, the mafia won't want to take a chance that he is a jester and kill him tonight so we don't lynch him tomorrow.
Two wrote:
Why would they nightkill himher? If the game continues even after a joker's death, I don't see the downside for the mafia. I don't even see a point to the joker role existing except to help the mafia... so please tell me how what you said makes sense.
Basically the only reason for nightkilling the jester would be so if they won, the game would be a "Predator win!" and not "Predator and Jester win!" But then again,0_o wrote:
Though again, this is only if nobody wants a shared win.
Maybe they're greedy and want the game to themselves - maybe not.0_o wrote:
I dunno how the predators would feel about sharing their win in exchange for a human being lynched tomorrow
err.. why? Just say it.Nakata Yuji wrote:
Hopefully someone points out the obvious....
I'm not going to be the one to say it.
We don't even know if there is a joker*glare*NoHItter wrote:
I haven't seen a small game (13 people) have a jester yet. (though I may be wrong since I haven't exactly joined a lot of games)
Though the probability of having a jester are slim, there's still a chance.
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
WIFOM. A tricky jester could pretend to be a mafia pretending to be a jester. Although seeing as he's a new player, it would seem more likely that if he was the jester then he would bank on everyone else not knowing about the possibility of a jester role.NoHItter wrote:
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..Nakata wrote:
*glare*
you got me.
What exactly makes you think this?0_o wrote:
Although seeing as he's a new player.
Were you supposed to?0_o wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..Nakata wrote:
*glare*
you got me.
viewtopic.php?p=498609#p498609Nakata Yuji wrote:
What exactly makes you think this?0_o wrote:
Although seeing as he's a new player.
oh.
*is noob at this*
teehee
If you are saying things that nobody gets then you aren't really adding anything and are only throwing suspicion at yourself.Nakata wrote:
Were you supposed to?0_o wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..
Would I possibly want to do that?0_o wrote:
If you are saying things that nobody gets then you aren't really adding anything and are only throwing suspicion at yourself.
Easy buddy, it's just a game.Two wrote:
on principle I'd rather lynch the inactive people, but for the love of god can we get rid of this guy
lynching a townie helps the town? am i missing something here?rust45 wrote:
I agree with the second part of Two's post, especially since lynching, whether or not it's scum, will help the town.
Vote: Nakata Yuji
Basically you're causing mass confusion, and getting rid of the source is a beneficial thing.Nakata Yuji wrote:
lynching a townie helps the town? am i missing something here?
by all means, though.
I thought he was making a blanket statement :30_o wrote:
Basically you're causing mass confusion, and getting rid of the source is a beneficial thing.Nakata Yuji wrote:
lynching a townie helps the town? am i missing something here?
by all means, though.
yeah, i should have probably counted before i put up that spoiler, you probably caught that ._.Two wrote:
unvote
But you are sure about Two?pieguy1372 wrote:
Anyway, might as well vote Two since I'm still not sure about lynching Nakata Yuji at this point.
Two was the only person that saw it. Both strager and I refreshed just that little too late. I'm not sure what possible reason Two might have for keeping this information hid, other than covering for Nakata.NoHItter wrote:
Also, what did Nakata post before he "removed" it.
troll?Wojjan wrote:
Maybe he publicly claimed wolf and gave up?
^ being cute, relevant later if you read the restNakata Yuji wrote:
Vote: mashley
dat foolMashley wrote:
I'm not a fool
Nakata Yuji wrote:
''Wojjan wrote:
Can't we just nolynch today? We have nothing to go on''
she wants the kill
unvote
vote:Wojjan
gogogoogog
so I voted for him, and was followed by nohitter and mashley; mashley's post was:Nakata Yuji wrote:
''Wojjan wrote:
Could you maybe, you know, read my other post?''
i just want the day to end, actually
also i would consider that a facade
In retrospect, there are several things about this post that rub me the wrong way. The first is the, by itself, innocent fact that they voted as part of a bandwagon. The next part most people will probably disagree with me on, but it's "Yeah, this is very suspicious". Stating things as fact actually is a very effective way to persuade people, as they take it in subconsciously. It's similar to how people say the person's name that they're talking to in order to gain control of a conversation. I think that it was deliberately stated that way, and this is backed up by the last bit, "Now, if we assume that Nataka is scum, then that would make Wojjan and 0_o innocent, wouldn't it?", where he tries to influence the game's perception of not only Nakata, but of Wojjan, 0_o, and himself. Making people believe that x cannot be y because x is opposite of z is extremely valuable for wolves/mafia/whatever, since it allows one of their members to go unsuspected and coast to the finish line.Mashley wrote:
Yeah, this is very suspicious. Nataka seems anxious to get the day over with and have someone out. Here's a PM I recieved from her:
Quote:
change your vote to wojjan or 0_o and I'll change mine to what you do
Now, if we assume that Nataka is scum, then that would make Wojjan and 0_o innocent, wouldn't it?
Unvote, Vote Nataka Yuji
^ ">_<" is acting cute/innocent againMashley wrote:
"Nakata Yuji wrote:
notice how you can't see what he sent."
What exactly are you suggesting? >_<
Only this time he not only tries to effect your perception with ">_<", but by stating "didn't you just admit to being scum a few posts ago?"Mashley wrote:
Want to explain how telling people about a suspicious PM you sent me is suspicious? Or are you just accusing me for the hell of it? And didn't you just admit to being scum a few posts ago? >_<
again trying to be perceived as ignorant/innocentMashley wrote:
This is confusing
This is the post that made me go back and look. It's so painfully ignorant that it's on the same level as Wojjan's troll post. It's to the point where there just has to be an ulterior motive behind it. Yeah the motive could be good, but go back and find evidence in his posts that supports that, cause I couldn't find it.Mashley wrote:
People realise Nataka is acting Jester - Nataka stops acting Jester
Cause and effect, NoHItter
downplaying things is also an effective tactic, but where does your mind trickery endMashley wrote:
You based an entire argument on my use of smileys? You do realise I use those all the time, right?
>_<?
>_<For the record, this game does not utilize phantom votes. If you are inactive you will be prodded. If you don't pick up your prod, I will forcibly replace you. If you are prodded repeatedly without any sign of picking up your activity beyond the bare minimum, I will forcibly replace you. If, after a significant period of time, I am unable to fill an inactive slot, that slot will be modkilled.Wojjan wrote:
I'll put up a vote for a no lynch until I decide to drop in again, just to save me a nasty phantom vote for D2.
It was really more or less after I had "give up".Mashley wrote:
Around when it was pointed out that you were acting Jester, Nakata. I thought that was quite obvious.
There could be significance behind all of this.secksey wrote:
*glare*
you got me.
It was pointed out when strager instructed Cuddles to post that he thought that I was an obvious Jester.Mashley wrote:
But you said that before anyone said you might be a jester?
No... you didn't... Go and look back at the postsNakata Yuji wrote:
It was pointed out when strager instructed Cuddles to post that he thought that I was an obvious Jester.Mashley wrote:
But you said that before anyone said you might be a jester?
I said that afterwards bro <3
Nakata Yuji wrote:
damn you got me.
vote for me guys.
Wojjan wrote:
Aha. There's our WIFOM.
Well well. You've been very very indecisive as of late Two. You just now said there is not a jester in this game, and Nakata is playing against town, be he a townie or predator. I'm all for lynching people playing against tow, how about you?Two wrote:
unvote, vote Mashley