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DiamondCrash wrote:
You lied.
LS' Big Mafia 1 had a Jester which basically is the joker.
I don't believe this joker crap though. Either Nakata is really really dumb, really really really dumb or really smart.
Judging them I'm inching towards one of the first two.
I don't believe this joker crap though. Either Nakata is really really dumb, really really really dumb or really smart.
Judging them I'm inching towards one of the first two.
the fact that you don't know....Wojjan wrote:
LS' Big Mafia 1 had a Jester which basically is the joker.
I don't believe this joker crap though. Either Nakata is really really dumb, really really really dumb or really smart.
Judging them I'm inching towards one of the first two.
I wouldn't say he's dumb, he's just new to this stuff that's all.Wojjan wrote:
Either Nakata is really really dumb, really really really dumb or really smart.
Judging them I'm inching towards one of the first two.
Anyway, if he is the jester and none of us want a shared win, then a fairly standard way of dealing with it is by not lynching him today and letting the mafia NK him tonight. If he is not NK'd tonight then we lynch him tomorrow. This way, if he is a predator then yay, we lynch a predator tomorrow. If not, the mafia won't want to take a chance that he is a jester and kill him tonight so we don't lynch him tomorrow.
Though again, this is only if nobody wants a shared win. I dunno how the predators would feel about sharing their win in exchange for a human being lynched tomorrow, and I don't know what all of you think either. So DISCUSS.
Why would they nightkill himher? If the game continues even after a joker's death, I don't see the downside for the mafia. I don't even see a point to the joker role existing except to help the mafia... so please tell me how what you said makes sense.0_o wrote:
Anyway, if he is the jester and none of us want a shared win, then a fairly standard way of dealing with it is by not lynching him today and letting the mafia NK him tonight. If he is not NK'd tonight then we lynch him tomorrow. This way, if he is a predator then yay, we lynch a predator tomorrow. If not, the mafia won't want to take a chance that he is a jester and kill him tonight so we don't lynch him tomorrow.
Hopefully someone points out the obvious....
I'm not going to be the one to say it.
I'm not going to be the one to say it.
Two wrote:
Why would they nightkill himher? If the game continues even after a joker's death, I don't see the downside for the mafia. I don't even see a point to the joker role existing except to help the mafia... so please tell me how what you said makes sense.
Basically the only reason for nightkilling the jester would be so if they won, the game would be a "Predator win!" and not "Predator and Jester win!" But then again,0_o wrote:
Though again, this is only if nobody wants a shared win.
Maybe they're greedy and want the game to themselves - maybe not.0_o wrote:
I dunno how the predators would feel about sharing their win in exchange for a human being lynched tomorrow
All I know is that there have been several osu!mafia games with a jester involved, and I wouldn't put it past SFG to throw one into this one.
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err.. why? Just say it.Nakata Yuji wrote:
Hopefully someone points out the obvious....
I'm not going to be the one to say it.
It may or may not be to my advantage.
I haven't seen a small game (13 people) have a jester yet. (though I may be wrong since I haven't exactly joined a lot of games)
Though the probability of having a jester are slim, there's still a chance.
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
Though the probability of having a jester are slim, there's still a chance.
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
- If they are the joker, they're just going to keep saying annoyingly stupid things
- If they are the joker, they won't get nightkilled (unless the mafia is retarded this game, like the wolves from the past 2 games)
- If they aren't the joker, they won't get nightkilled (unless the mafia is retarded this game, like the wolves from the past 2 games)
- If they are a part of the mafia, they won't get nightkilled obviously.
Basically the only way around being stuck with the bill of lynching them is for someone to investigate them.
- If they are the joker, they won't get nightkilled (unless the mafia is retarded this game, like the wolves from the past 2 games)
- If they aren't the joker, they won't get nightkilled (unless the mafia is retarded this game, like the wolves from the past 2 games)
- If they are a part of the mafia, they won't get nightkilled obviously.
Basically the only way around being stuck with the bill of lynching them is for someone to investigate them.
This is confusing 
We don't even know if there is a joker
We don't even know if there is a joker
Topic Starter
If activity doesn't pick up, I'm going to start trying to replace players and move the deadline for the lynch forwards.
Sorry, it's bugging me: the role's actually called the Jester, not Joker.
Also, mod: If a jester is investigated, would the outcome be Guilty or Not Guilty (assuming investigations don't reveal entire roles)?
Also, mod: If a jester is investigated, would the outcome be Guilty or Not Guilty (assuming investigations don't reveal entire roles)?
*glare*NoHItter wrote:
I haven't seen a small game (13 people) have a jester yet. (though I may be wrong since I haven't exactly joined a lot of games)
Though the probability of having a jester are slim, there's still a chance.
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
you got me.
Topic Starter
Possible results of an investigation include "mafia," "neutral," and "town." A jester, along with any other third party, would come up as being "neutral."
WIFOM. A tricky jester could pretend to be a mafia pretending to be a jester. Although seeing as he's a new player, it would seem more likely that if he was the jester then he would bank on everyone else not knowing about the possibility of a jester role.NoHItter wrote:
Nakata's actions scream Jester to me, yet he's doing it wrong.
(Basically) Openly admitting that you're a jester won't get you lynched.
Instead people will use reverse psychology and assume that you're just pretending to be a jester.
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..Nakata wrote:
*glare*
you got me.
What exactly makes you think this?0_o wrote:
Although seeing as he's a new player.
Were you supposed to?0_o wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..Nakata wrote:
*glare*
you got me.
viewtopic.php?p=498609#p498609Nakata Yuji wrote:
What exactly makes you think this?0_o wrote:
Although seeing as he's a new player.
oh.
*is noob at this*
teehee
If you are saying things that nobody gets then you aren't really adding anything and are only throwing suspicion at yourself.Nakata wrote:
Were you supposed to?0_o wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what this implies..
Would I possibly want to do that?0_o wrote:
If you are saying things that nobody gets then you aren't really adding anything and are only throwing suspicion at yourself.
Also, you're quite trusting.
on principle I'd rather lynch the inactive people, but for the love of god can we get rid of this guy
I agree with the second part of Two's post, especially since lynching, whether or not it's scum, will help the town.
Vote: Nakata Yuji
Vote: Nakata Yuji
Easy buddy, it's just a game.Two wrote:
on principle I'd rather lynch the inactive people, but for the love of god can we get rid of this guy
lynching a townie helps the town? am i missing something here?rust45 wrote:
I agree with the second part of Two's post, especially since lynching, whether or not it's scum, will help the town.
Vote: Nakata Yuji
by all means, though.
Basically you're causing mass confusion, and getting rid of the source is a beneficial thing.Nakata Yuji wrote:
lynching a townie helps the town? am i missing something here?
by all means, though.
I thought he was making a blanket statement :30_o wrote:
Basically you're causing mass confusion, and getting rid of the source is a beneficial thing.Nakata Yuji wrote:
lynching a townie helps the town? am i missing something here?
by all means, though.
either way, it's fun doing it, so even if i get lynched, i've had my fun.
Alright I'm gonna be gone from the 13th to the 23rd; I think I will have minimal access to the internet so I'll try to stay on top of the game as much as I can, but I probably won't be as active as usual.
so where is matthewtck, oyashiro beatrice and pieguy1372?
and can you people who aren't voting for nakata yuji please try to convince us not to vote for them, to both stimulate the game and explain why you haven't voted for them yourselves thx
and can you people who aren't voting for nakata yuji please try to convince us not to vote for them, to both stimulate the game and explain why you haven't voted for them yourselves thx
Sorry, been out-of-state for a while....I stopped understanding WTH was going on, so I'll just change my vote to the most obvious person, still got a few things to do IRL and may not be that active.
Vote: Nakata Yuji
Vote: Nakata Yuji
And I am a removed.
Okay, that's actually 6, nvm.
yeah, i should have probably counted before i put up that spoiler, you probably caught that ._.Two wrote:
unvote
let's keep that a secret, mm?
on behalf of strager
I'm curious as why Two unvoted.
Reason please?
Also, what did Nakata post before he "removed" it.
Reason please?
Also, what did Nakata post before he "removed" it.
I haven't posted because I haven't made up my mind yet, especially now that I can assume Nakata Yuji had an important role of sorts. Unless he was a wolf pretending to have such a role, or unless Two and Nakata Yuji are both wolves. (I didn't vote Nakata Yuji previously because I had a hunch it would be a bad idea, but eh.)
That actually seems rather likely, both Two and Nakata Yuji being wolves. o_o If they were two wolves and putting on a show to fool all of us, it would definitely make sense if Nakata Yuji went and confused all of us and then Two played Nakata Yuji off as innocent just now. On the other hand, this situation would make a lot of sense if both of them were townsfolk or of either one of them was a wolf. Now I really can't make up my mind...
Anyway, might as well vote Two since I'm still not sure about lynching Nakata Yuji at this point.
That actually seems rather likely, both Two and Nakata Yuji being wolves. o_o If they were two wolves and putting on a show to fool all of us, it would definitely make sense if Nakata Yuji went and confused all of us and then Two played Nakata Yuji off as innocent just now. On the other hand, this situation would make a lot of sense if both of them were townsfolk or of either one of them was a wolf. Now I really can't make up my mind...
Anyway, might as well vote Two since I'm still not sure about lynching Nakata Yuji at this point.
But you are sure about Two?pieguy1372 wrote:
Anyway, might as well vote Two since I'm still not sure about lynching Nakata Yuji at this point.
Two was the only person that saw it. Both strager and I refreshed just that little too late. I'm not sure what possible reason Two might have for keeping this information hid, other than covering for Nakata.NoHItter wrote:
Also, what did Nakata post before he "removed" it.
@Mashley: If we lynch Nakata Yuji and he turns out to be innocent we'll likely end up losing a very important role given how Two was acting. (Note that Two would act that way regardless of whether he is a wolf or not because if he is he'd want to avoid suspicion.) As a result lynching Two seems like a safer bet.
The problem with your logic is that if they did indeed claim to be a valuable role, and I was a wolf, I could have not only avoided suspicion but I could have lynched that valuable role by simply doing nothing.