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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2016-02-02T17:38:53+00:00

ZiRoX wrote:
Sey wrote:
I hope you guys are aware that Lost's Salad has a lower max. combo than the following Platter and almost as many as MBomb's Platter. Also MBomb's Overdose has a lower combo than JBH's Rain. The current jump from a 111 combo in Koli's Salad to a 138 combo in Lost's Salad is way too high, especially with Mbomb's Platter only having 141 combo, that is just 3 notes more.

A true masterpiece

Lost

72 posts

Joined May 2014

Lost 2016-02-04T00:06:26+00:00

Thanks to Sey for helping me with reducing density, same max combo as Platter now.

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Sey

1,406 posts

Joined October 2010

Sey 2016-02-04T09:25:58+00:00

In Koli's Salad I dislike 00:31:584 (4,5,6,7) - aesthetically, please try the following pattern (This will also be more consistent with 00:37:441 (3,4) - ):

SPOILER

In Platter you might wanna reconsider remapping 00:18:163 (1,2,3,4,5) - a little bit as done in MBomb's Platter because the current timeline does not fully follow a constant rhythm and seems to be a mixture of sync and vocals. Please take a look at MBomb's Platter to get another idea how to map this.

In MBomb's Platter please decrease distance at 00:37:563 (3,4) - drastically. Music is way too low already for such a high jump. It does not emphasize the music very well.

For Hyperion's Rain: 00:25:117 (1) - shouldn't this slider actually end at 00:25:483 - ? I cannot find any extraordinary beat at 00:25:422 - .You might also wanna reconsider 00:32:438 (1,2) - because there is no real excessive beat following at 00:32:682 - , so I suggest to skip this beat and lenghten the slider. Something similar applies to 00:38:295 (1,2) - .

Call me back when these last things are applied.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-02-04T10:14:36+00:00

Sey wrote:
For Hyperion's Rain: 00:25:117 (1) - shouldn't this slider actually end at 00:25:483 - ? I cannot find any extraordinary beat at 00:25:422 - .
Totally right, this slider must have changed length at some point whilst I was repatterning. Fixed

You might also wanna reconsider 00:32:438 (1,2) - because there is no real excessive beat following at 00:32:682 - , so I suggest to skip this beat and lenghten the slider. Something similar applies to 00:38:295 (1,2) - .
I wanted to give more emphasis to the (2) beats rather than have them as just a slidertail originally, but after testing your idea I decided a cleaner pattern works better here, so consider both applied

Call me back when these last things are applied.

Thanks for the recheck!

Rain

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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2016-02-04T19:37:41+00:00

Sey wrote:
In Platter you might wanna reconsider remapping 00:18:163 (1,2,3,4,5) - a little bit as done in MBomb's Platter because the current timeline does not fully follow a constant rhythm and seems to be a mixture of sync and vocals. Please take a look at MBomb's Platter to get another idea how to map this.
I like the way this plays and it also follows the synth quite well, as well as the pitch of the vocals (while, admittedly, not following the vocals directly). No change from me unless we can talk a bit more about it

Call me back when these last things are applied.

koliron

791 posts

Joined July 2014

koliron 2016-02-04T19:40:00+00:00

Sey wrote:
In Koli's Salad I dislike 00:31:584 (4,5,6,7) - aesthetically, please try the following pattern (This will also be more consistent with 00:37:441 (3,4) - ): Hooo yea, i agree
SPOILER

Call me back when these last things are applied.

Salad

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Thanks for the recheck!

MBomb

MBomb 2016-02-05T01:09:33+00:00

*yawn*

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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2016-02-05T02:23:22+00:00

updated

Sey

1,406 posts

Joined October 2010

Sey 2016-02-05T09:51:29+00:00

Bubble'd

Intelli

842 posts

Joined July 2014

Intelli 2016-02-05T20:13:15+00:00

Is the meme gonna reach CtB?

get with the program o!m

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2016-02-08T05:08:36+00:00

IntelliTroodon wrote:
Is the meme gonna reach CtB?

get with the program o!m

Soon, I hope

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2016-02-09T01:22:00+00:00

lazy make template. also recheck so no kudo

Koli :
- for consistency with 00:36:098 (1,2) - i'd say make 00:30:242 (2,3) - 's rhythm become like http://puu.sh/n0Z4j/f6be61387d.jpg ?
- 00:09:012 (2,3) - x:448? the dash is a bit far imo

Lost :
- as this diff still a salad 00:09:012 (1,2) - i'd say to not do 2 dashes in row (p.s : preferably to dash in 00:09:622 (2) - )
- 00:22:555 (2) - reduce like x:256? its hard to catch with dash and the music has no support to do dash here

mbomb's platter :
- 00:38:905 (2) - how about end the slider at 00:39:393 - to keep consistent end of mapping length with others?

overdose :
00:26:948 (2) - i think the distance is too far from previous slider, well i know im not a pro player but i did try catch them in 3 times and all were missed rip , x:328 looks better for me
00:33:048 (3) - and 00:37:807 (4) - keep consistent to have hdash together or just normal dash? their music are same
00:39:393 - also add note for keep same length ending map with others? just the inconsistency looks weird for me

koliron

791 posts

Joined July 2014

koliron 2016-02-09T01:36:59+00:00

Fixed!

a

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MBomb

MBomb 2016-02-09T19:34:03+00:00

Xinely wrote:
lazy make template. also recheck so no kudo

mbomb's platter :
- 00:38:905 (2) - how about end the slider at 00:39:393 - to keep consistent end of mapping length with others? - Added a circle instead.

overdose :
00:26:948 (2) - i think the distance is too far from previous slider, well i know im not a pro player but i did try catch them in 3 times and all were missed rip , x:328 looks better for me - x:336 but yeah, reduced.
00:33:048 (3) - and 00:37:807 (4) - keep consistent to have hdash together or just normal dash? their music are same - Made both HDashes.
00:39:393 - also add note for keep same length ending map with others? just the inconsistency looks weird for me - Yeah, this was a msitake by me, gj noticing.

pl

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Lost

72 posts

Joined May 2014

Lost 2016-02-09T21:11:02+00:00

Xinely wrote:
Lost :
- as this diff still a salad 00:09:012 (1,2) - i'd say to not do 2 dashes in row (p.s : preferably to dash in 00:09:622 (2) - ) Please correct me if i misunderstood. I think you mean the jump to 1 and the jump from 1 to 2. To fix this i moved some stuff around so the jump to 1 is easy w/o dashing now
- 00:22:555 (2) - reduce like x:256? its hard to catch with dash and the music has no support to do dash here Moved stuff around so there are no jumps in this part except 00:24:385 (3,1) -

Thank you for the recheck

Salad

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Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2016-02-10T01:09:05+00:00

let's go

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2016-02-10T01:09:42+00:00

wheee thanks to xinely and sey and everyone who contributed to helping this set!

koliron

791 posts

Joined July 2014

koliron 2016-02-10T01:24:02+00:00

aaaaaaa ^^ thank you Xinely!

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-02-10T02:25:33+00:00

S A V E T H E S E A L S

Crystal

Former osu!catch Champion: 2018

1,123 posts

Joined June 2012

Crystal 2016-02-10T10:54:45+00:00

congratz on this

just want to mention that compared with Rain, the AR of which is at a reasonable level of 8.3, Overdose's AR is too low, imo, as it has more intensive jumps than Rain.

Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Riari 2016-02-10T16:57:02+00:00

Crystal wrote:
congratz on this

just want to mention that compared with Rain, the AR of which is at a reasonable level of 8.3, Overdose's AR is too low, imo, as it has more intensive jumps than Rain.

That is generally how harder diffs work.

However with the AR I think its fine. It works as a gimmick within a sort of gimmick-y song, and with high AR DT becoming so prevalent and low AR being discarded, I think it poses a good challenge instead of a more conventional AR.

Sey

1,406 posts

Joined October 2010

Sey 2016-02-10T19:56:43+00:00

That is the entire point of the overdose. We had a very long and detailed discussion on the Overdose's AR before this got qualified and MBomb was able to defend the AR of his difficulty using a similar reason as Riari did. On this I just wanna add that reading low AR is a skill in itself and it shouldn't be neglected on CTB. The whole concept of this overdose was intended to be mapped for a very low AR. I absolutely agree with Riari.

MBomb

MBomb 2016-02-17T01:29:41+00:00

oh

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Ascendance 2016-02-17T02:13:45+00:00

we made it guys \:D/

Xinely

5,014 posts