ad
Not really. Only if the BG is TOTALLY unrelated. In this case the girl is "addicted" to the boy, as you can see.Reditum wrote:
Wasnt there like some rule against using anime BGs for non-anime songs?
Usually i wouldnt care, but people are telling me to change the BGs of my maps because of this, so uhhhh
Going into qualified mapsets and shouting 'this difficulty needs an overhaul' is a rather bold act and you should really refrain from using that statement in your post-qualification mods. While I do agree that the difficulty could add more features to express the music better, there is not much wrong with the general looks of the map. Visual aesthetics is subjective (as mapping in general is) and it is achieved by using consistent Distance Spacing and clear, simplistic patterns here; it might look a bit old-stylish, but there is nothing wrong about this.Xexxar wrote:
Overall this difficulty is nothing more than a hard difficulty without any coherency or consistency in visual aesthetics. It lack of rhythmic focus, intensity or variety that's expected of modern Insane difficulties. This map need SERIOUS re haul to be truly an insane fit for this song.
I'm gonna say again that I got this BG idea from the Hyouka AMV and the BG clearly shows that the girl is very interested in the boy (addicted) but since I know that you guys are extremely stubborn I'll try finding a BG of hearts or something instead. I don't like the band and didn't map this song because of them, but because of the AMV, so I'm not gonna put their faces anywhere near my map.Bakari wrote:
I will be insisting on a different BG unless someone cares to explain how the band/lyrics are connected with some random anime.
You have to understand that I didn't want to force jumps or difficult patterns in this diff since the music is very monotonous and imo the diff has to compliment and portray that.Xexxar wrote:
If you're going to include Hyouka for the sake of the AMV then why not include the video? Also since Hyouka is the BG you should have Hyouka in the tags...
Obsession
GeneralSpecifics
- The biggest problem with this map is how monotonous it is. The song features very repetitive rhythms up until the chorus so I can see why you would fall into this trap. The thing with this song is it's build up which features the introduction of a new instrument every 4 measures. It would be advisable to pay attention and appreciation to these new instruments that are being introduced, because otherwise the map falls into this generalization of "well now with this new instrument it's slightly more intense so I'll put few more circles instead of sliders and bump up the SV." Literally that is this map in a nutshell.
- The distance lock of this map serves to completely undermine and under appreciate any real intensity and enthusiasm in this song. Sure you increase spacing for major white tick downbeats, but there is so much more that this song has to offer in terms of spacing variance and angles. Put in short, the way this map is right now is simply a formula, and that's bad business and lazy mapping that isn't going to be quality.
- All of the patterns in this map are not cohesive at all. Barely any work together and as such it just feels like you have a random set of notes that then moves to another random set of notes. This design is questionable at best because it offers nothing to the song and is poorly executed.
Overall this difficulty is nothing more than a hard difficulty without any coherency or consistency in visual aesthetics. It lack of rhythmic focus, intensity or variety that's expected of modern Insane difficulties. This map need SERIOUS re haul to be truly an insane fit for this song.
- 00:00:490 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the layout of these is very boring and confusing because the notes are all straight yet they seem to have directions given to them at random. Additionally, why are these all the same spacing? Why not slowly build the spacing with a slight increase in DS for each group of notes The reason why the spacings are similar is because the music's rhythm remains the same. The only increase in volume is here: 00:07:548 - I don't really like your example and would rather want to keep my current pattern.
Where each time the group of notes blankets the first note of the previous quad group of notes. This would better reflect the increase in volume of the guitar- 00:07:548 (1,2,3) - this is visually upsetting, if you're going to go with this design, why isn't the slider end, 2, and 3 in a perfect line? Uhm, why is this an issue? They are obviously neatly placed and plays nicely.
- 00:08:431 (4) - Why is this note located here? There's so many more places you could place this to promote better synergy between your notes. For example, you could go for a blanket on 2, or perhaps form a triangle shape between 2 3 and 4 (doesnt have to be equilaterial, just make it even distance between 2 and 3). This location seems random so it's locations merit and visual aethetics are poor. I moved (4) a bit to the left for better flow.
- 00:09:313 (1,2,3) - you have a group of notes then a completely fundamentally different aesthetically group of notes after: 00:10:195 (4,5,6) - why not try to make your patterns consistent in some way, or build off eachother. By isolating each one in a different corner of your map thing's don't look connected and the beatmap just is moving from one pattern to the next with no connection. I don't really see this a problem since the flow is still fine and I'm making use of the entire grid and not just placing everything in one space. This is the way I map.
For example you could do this:
While this isn't particularly what I would do, it allows for approximately consistent distance snap (since you seem to want that tho im a big anti ds mapper) and has alot more geometric merit in it's construction. This can be applied to almost all of the map as all of the map seems to have random slider / circle locations, so I won't bring this up again.- 00:14:607 (1,2,3,4,1) - please try to be consistent within a pattern, You have 4 curved sliders and 1 straight while followin the vocals, Why did you do this? It seems random and lack's consistency so I feel it's visual jarring. The vocals change here: 00:16:372 - so it actually makes sense that I change the slider's shape.
- 00:20:122 (2) - this barely has any audio towards it. Why not vary the rhythm up with a 1/1 slider on 1? so far the player has seen NOTHING but 1/2 and 1/2 circles I wasn't following the vocals there but the music in the background. Imo a long slider will also not fit.
- 00:23:872 (2) - you were following vocals then randomly decided that the slider end's vocal was not important enough to warrant the player to click? I don't understand Ok, added circles in the place of that slider.
- 00:34:019 (1,2,3) - another good location for some variance with a 1/1 slider to following the vocals, if you want to capture the red ticks hi-hat than why not make a 1/2 return slider I'm still following the music in the background. This is an Insane afterall, so I don't want it to be too easy.
- 00:53:431 (1) - finally a chance for some variety in the map! with the new guitar sound being added you can focus on it for some variety, but you don't? making the first beat in the measure a 1/1 slider to match the guitar would be alot better. Ok, added a 1/1 slider there.
- 00:57:842 (3) - if we listen to this new guitar, each measure repeats the same sound, and it can be noted that the 2nd downbeat (aka middle white tick) is where the guitar's pitch is highest. Consider maybe using spacing that better reflects the new guitar instrument rather than continuing with the same boring patterns? Added a slight jump there.
- 01:11:078 (1) - new instrument introduced, new options for focus in the beatmap, yet you continue with monotony. consider utilizing the peaks of the new instruments pitch for increased / decreased spacing I don't like adding too many increased patterns. In this case the music is just a bit louder but the music still has the same rhythm so I feel I still have to use the same patterns.
- 01:39:313 (1) - this is final chorus of the song, the peak of all that build up of the entire 2 minute song, and you decide to open with two sliders that basically mock the singer's vocals. Raising SV alone and continuing with the same tired patterns that you have done for this entire difficulty does not = intensity. Perhaps change these sliders into circles / jumps to better fit the singer's vocal patterns, since that's the dominant force in this chorus. But I do have a lot of circles in the chorus. Raising the SV is enough imo and the circle jumps are also a bit bigger.
Same here, it looks and plays quite repetitive, but I wouldn't consider it much of issue. As long as it doesn't make map unplayable, I'd accept it, but I don't say there are no better ways to make it variable and good to play. There are more opportunities to emphasize stuff etc. We may still consider it somehow advanced Hard than Insane, in that case, it should be still fine.Desperate-kun wrote:
I wouldn't say I am a fan of the map, the rhythm is too repetetive for my taste.
The red colour can bring out the sexiness though.Wafu wrote:
Same here, it looks and plays quite repetitive, but I wouldn't consider it much of issue. As long as it doesn't make map unplayable, I'd accept it, but I don't say there are no better ways to make it variable and good to play. There are more opportunities to emphasize stuff etc. We may still consider it somehow advanced Hard than Insane, in that case, it should be still fine.Desperate-kun wrote:
I wouldn't say I am a fan of the map, the rhythm is too repetetive for my taste.
About the background, I'd firstly not say 1024x768 background that gets stretched + does have artifacts even on it's original is that cool. And second thing, song is not really about love. For example in last sentence, the guy is compared to heroin - "She said baby save me, You could be the he-hero-in me" - Basically, the song is about the dirty love where only sex is the subject. That's why why "hero-in me", they talk about something unimportant yet addictive. And honestly, hearts for love is really the only thing people can think of. What about some withered (for sad, because they talk about sort of unimportant love), orange (for crazy, because they talk about it being addictive and in fact crazy) flower or tree or anything. Heart is in my opinion too simplistic, because it doesn't say much about the song. But that's just my opinion, abstract art for this doesn't feel emphatic to me.
Thanks, Natsu~!Natsu wrote:
New BG seems really low quality imo, if you search a bit more, probably you can find a better quality one I already PM'ed Ringating. Waiting for his reply.
About the map it fit the music really nice, music doesn't provide too much, but the mapset is overall well done in my opinion, anyways a few suggestions:
Obsession:Hard:
- 00:19:901 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - polygon pattern is imperfect and its bother me a bit, try to make it with the tool. Compose > create polygon circles Ok, followed your suggestion.
- 00:41:519 (2,3,4,5,6) - not sure about this one, but seems you tryed to make a star pattern (looks really bad) just redo the pattern with the tool Made a slight change. Can't really use the tool here.
- 00:45:931 (6,1) - blanket is a bit off Made slight fix.
- 00:52:989 instead of the pause here, you can take advantage of the song and map some slider following that noise song: Ok, followed your suggestion.
- 01:16:813 (3,4) - blanket can be improved Made a slight change.
- 01:24:313 (4,5) - spacing is a bit too short, music is kinda strong, I'd do a jump here Ok, placed a jump there.
- 01:31:372 (5,6,7) - this seems inconsistent with the before part 01:27:842 (4,5,6) - , being honest 01:27:842 (4,5,6) - follow better the music since 4 and 5 bring clicks to the claps in the music and 6 follow the active to pasive sound nicely. So consider to change the rhythm at 01:31:372 (5,6,7) to: Fixed
- 01:34:901 (3,4,5) - Same as above Fixed
Normal:
- 00:52:989 same as insane Fixed
- 01:34:901 (3,4,5) - same thing as insane at 01:31:372 (5,6,7) (this is really inconsistent with both previous parts 01:31:371 (4,5,1) - 01:27:842 (4,5,6) - Fixed
- 01:49:681 (4,1) - this jumps feels really hard to get for a hard diff Made the spacing smaller.
Easy:
- 01:34:901 (5) - this should be a 1/2 repeat slider, according to your two previous patterns 01:31:372 (5) - 01:27:842 (5) - Fixed
about bg I think a couple image would fit better I couldn't find any good ones that will fit in with the song.
- 00:53:431 (1,3) - I'd use 1/1 repeat sliders instead since the beats at every downbeat are really strong and they have similar sound I think my pattern fits better.
I have the vid. I may not add it. Check Bakari's first post. I also asked pereira and he said no.Sieg wrote:
@-Nya- Maybe you can add video from AMV? like in this set https://osu.ppy.sh/s/143897
Care to explain things properly, if you want this to be disqualified.Dyl-Byl wrote:
I am a kid trying to impersonate a BN. Lol. The mistake stuff btw. The chorus lyrics are very weird if you listen carefully..
[General]
If I was a BN, I would probably pop your:
I'm pretty sure 01:53:431 (1) - should end over 01:56:960 in each diff. the guitar still fades and I believe that this is exactly what Nya wants to show with the spinner being so long
[Easy]
00:12:842 (3,4,1) - This isn't properly distance snapped. Assuming that you mean x0.01 difference I have to say that this is too minor to cause any troubles while reading\playing.
00:21:666 (1) - I recommend you put it more like: why?
01:37:548 (5) - This sounds like there should be an NC here. That'd hurt the mapper's combo pattern, I am sure that it is just fine without the NC.
[Normal]
00:36:445 (2) - I think you should remove this as it sounds better. Why? the mapper follows their rhythm in a consistent way and the 1/2 beats here help them to support difficulty on the necessary level
00:39:092 (7) - ^
01:03:798 (6) - ^
01:21:445 (7) - lol. ^
01:40:857 (4) - ^
01:49:901 (1,2) - These are kind of irrelevant to earliers patterns. I know this is the most highlighted part of the map but it doesn't seem right. Offer an alternative, then?
I don't do no hard stuff.
others thing that I didn't reply are like subjective things imoDyl-Byl wrote:
I am a kid trying to impersonate a BN. Lol. The mistake stuff btw. The chorus lyrics are very weird if you listen carefully..
[General]
If I was a BN, I would probably pop your:
I'm pretty sure 01:53:431 (1) - should end over 01:56:960 in each diff. no the intention of the mapper here I believe is to emphasis on the fade out of the guitar with the spinner there and I don't think that's a valid reason to pop or w/e lol
[Easy]
00:12:842 (3,4,1) - This isn't properly distance snapped. it's already consistent ds now o.o
01:37:548 (5) - This sounds like there should be an NC here. kinda make the nc pattern a bit inconsistent tho lol and I don't see it really need to nc cus beat isn't that dominant or something , I believe
See, I got so many good reactions. Even one from Bakari. Lol. Now i'm out!Dyl-Byl wrote:
I am a kid trying to impersonate a BN. I impersonate people all the time! Lol. The mistake stuff btw. The chorus lyrics are very weird if you listen carefully.. Lol
[General]
If I was a BN, I would probably pop your:
I love wubble bubbles. The ads say they never pop so I wanted to really see reactions to this.
I'm pretty sure 01:53:431 (1) - should end over 01:56:960 in each diff. Get real, any noob would spot this.
[Easy]
00:12:842 (3,4,1) - This isn't properly distance snapped. Well ya, there may be such thing as an experienced nub. Rigghhh?
00:21:666 (1) - I recommend you put it more like:
Who doesn't like shapes like these?
01:37:548 (5) - This sounds like there should be an NC here. Noobs always go for that so I decided that I should play along as a noob and keep on going off topic.
[Normal]
00:36:445 (2) - I think you should remove this as it sounds better. lol. I did this just for fun.
00:39:092 (7) - ^ ^
01:03:798 (6) - ^ ^
01:21:445 (7) - lol. ^ ^
01:40:857 (4) - ^ ^
01:49:901 (1,2) - These are kind of irrelevant to earliers patterns. I know this is the most highlighted part of the map but it doesn't seem right. Banana.
lol. laughing so hard.riggah wrote:
I'm addicted to this map.