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Welcome to Skystar World Cup 2015
this mappool sucks dick
chill bro u madfartownik wrote:
this mappool sucks dick
anyone have the new mappool?
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/20593606
(not all are the highest respective diffs star-rating wise on the mapset btw, FREEDOM DiVE is [Another] and Kakumeisei ousama densenbyou is [AngelHoney's Extra] if I recalled correctly)
EDIT : And Asymmetry as well (being [Asphewin's Expert])
(not all are the highest respective diffs star-rating wise on the mapset btw, FREEDOM DiVE is [Another] and Kakumeisei ousama densenbyou is [AngelHoney's Extra] if I recalled correctly)
EDIT : And Asymmetry as well (being [Asphewin's Expert])
Because he doesn't need to say anything more to get his points acrossfartownik wrote:
this mappool sucks dick
if it is for other rounds it would be okay
but for the finals? ouch
messiah dt <3
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Wiki has been updated!
You will see why when you watch the first match with this mappool.Zak wrote:
Such constructive criticism
Yeh. I still remember Histy's tournament finals. That wasn't very fun to watch.fartownik wrote:
You will see why when you watch the first match with this mappool.Zak wrote:
Such constructive criticism
This mappool looks so cancerous.
Grats to Hong Kong! First time they have made it to the finals!
Grats to Hong Kong! First time they have made it to the finals!
there are too many wildcard maps
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Define "wildcard"
First of all, i'm pretty certain i used the wrong word to describe this. Secondly, I want to make it clear that in no way am i saying the map pool is good or badLoctav wrote:
Define "wildcard"
before i start, there are about 2-3 maps in the pool I haven't played. Basically (how i see it) a lot of the maps are either jumps, streams, or require alternating, and hardly a combination of those.
rubik's cube, once again, yuyu metal, require heavy alternating skills. The rohi map also requires decent alternating on the 1/3s. A team could effectively have half their picks specialised in one area.
perthed again is basically a low bpm version of cheatreal. Perthed again, king for a day, messiah, muteki no soldier consists of nearly only 1/2 jumps. Again, a team could effectively have half their picks specialised in one area.
this year there are only a handful of maps that require well balanced skill sets, but that doesn't necessarily mean the mappool this year is bad. It could lead to teams adjusting lineups which could be a good thing for the viewers (we get to see the more specialised players) and more strategy around picking
the pool last year was fun, because a lot of the maps required the player to be skilled in many aspects of the game; stamina, speed, accuracy, aim etc. A lot of the maps this year require excelling in only one aspect, which is considered a bore to many players
once again:
that doesn't necessarily mean the mappool this year is bad. It could lead to teams adjusting lineups which could be a good thing for the viewers (we get to see the more specialised players) and more strategy around picking
I think going forward I like the idea of maps with more specific focuses at least in the later rounds of OWC. I think it's a tricky thing to pull off in group stage for example because each team, for better or worse, is only able to form a team consisting of members of a single country. Some countries have enough players to qualify for competing in OWC but might struggle to even come up with 4 players consistent enough to do well. Thus, picking less generalized maps for the map pool hurts these small countries the most because whatever their 4 players are able to play is all they are able to play.
On the other hand, we see countries like the United States and Poland who have very deep rosters this year such that they have more specialized players to rotate in depending on what maps are picked/banned. I think on top of this, it encourages players who want to compete in OWC in the future to consider investing a lot of time into specializing in some of the less popular skills that are not as well rewarded by the PPv2 system. Instead of thoughts like "I'll never be able to play in the OWC because I'll never be as good at everything as players W X Y Z" it fosters thoughts such as "I may not ever be able to surpass player X in general, but if I can at least prove my self in niche skill A then I can actually be of use for my country."
So I think finding the balance in which stage of the OWC to start shifting to a more skill specific map pool is something that should continue to be evaluated as the player base improves and grows.
On the other hand, we see countries like the United States and Poland who have very deep rosters this year such that they have more specialized players to rotate in depending on what maps are picked/banned. I think on top of this, it encourages players who want to compete in OWC in the future to consider investing a lot of time into specializing in some of the less popular skills that are not as well rewarded by the PPv2 system. Instead of thoughts like "I'll never be able to play in the OWC because I'll never be as good at everything as players W X Y Z" it fosters thoughts such as "I may not ever be able to surpass player X in general, but if I can at least prove my self in niche skill A then I can actually be of use for my country."
So I think finding the balance in which stage of the OWC to start shifting to a more skill specific map pool is something that should continue to be evaluated as the player base improves and grows.
Also encouraging player switches is nice. There's a reason a team is 8 players and not 4. Sucks to be the 4 that never plays.
Thought for improving map pool showcase for next year:
Either have one of the map selectors commentating why they chose each map and possibly other maps that were considered in it's place or have them do a writeup on this and send it to the commentators along with the map pool itself so that the commentators can point out subtle nuances and such.
It's nice having players like Doomsday and Cptnxn around during the showcase due to their potential experience playing any of the given maps in the past but since the pool is unknown to the commentators until just before the showcase (for good reason) I imagine it's probably hard even for them to think on their toes.
I feel like the map selectors are probably the most capable of highlighting details on each map and the pool in general since they have the ability to prepare such information. It could also clear up possible misunderstandings around a given map pool by providing insight into why certain maps were chosen.
Either have one of the map selectors commentating why they chose each map and possibly other maps that were considered in it's place or have them do a writeup on this and send it to the commentators along with the map pool itself so that the commentators can point out subtle nuances and such.
It's nice having players like Doomsday and Cptnxn around during the showcase due to their potential experience playing any of the given maps in the past but since the pool is unknown to the commentators until just before the showcase (for good reason) I imagine it's probably hard even for them to think on their toes.
I feel like the map selectors are probably the most capable of highlighting details on each map and the pool in general since they have the ability to prepare such information. It could also clear up possible misunderstandings around a given map pool by providing insight into why certain maps were chosen.
Be like Team Canada, switch every map LOLCXu wrote:
Also encouraging player switches is nice. There's a reason a team is 8 players and not 4. Sucks to be the 4 that never plays.
Welp. USA vs China (again) This is it Boys place your bets and who going to win the Final Match
All my money for China.
FREEEEEEDOM!
Topic Starter
Wiki is updated
I wonder why there is always at least a player who fails on PUPA
I know, i'm a stupid retarded mapper ;w;
I know, i'm a stupid retarded mapper ;w;
The fact that the "S" is white was unfortunate, i read "U A Take my Energy" :vPituophis wrote:
WHAT?!
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ USA TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Anyway, good luck USA, you will need it /o/. (Hype!)
pupa is cool but the map a shit on hrCherry Blossom wrote:
I wonder why there is always at least a player who fails on PUPA
I know, i'm a stupid retarded mapper ;w;
USA will win.
Optimal schedule for me, the match starts at 4:30 AM in my timezone, but who needs sleep anyway :^)
Can someone explain what will happen when USA wins the (first) final?
I believe they have to win again (like last year): if so, will the second match be right after the first?
I'd like to see everything and if the osulive stream can cover both matches in one broadcast, I can just watch it when I wake up instead of getting out of bed at 4.30 am..
I believe they have to win again (like last year): if so, will the second match be right after the first?
I'd like to see everything and if the osulive stream can cover both matches in one broadcast, I can just watch it when I wake up instead of getting out of bed at 4.30 am..
USA needs to win 2 series in a row in order to be the champions while China only needs to win 1. And I think the second series is always right after the first one yup.zz-e wrote:
Can someone explain what will happen when USA wins the (first) final?
I believe they have to win again (like last year): if so, will the second match be right after the first?
I'd like to see everything and if the osulive stream can cover both matches in one broadcast, I can just watch it when I wake up instead of getting out of bed at 4.30 am..
There will be most likely a short break if USA manages to win their 1st match(like about 15 min, iirc it was also the case last year)zz-e wrote:
Can someone explain what will happen when USA wins the (first) final?
I believe they have to win again (like last year): if so, will the second match be right after the first?
I'd like to see everything and if the osulive stream can cover both matches in one broadcast, I can just watch it when I wake up instead of getting out of bed at 4.30 am..
Maaan I missed almost the whole thing this year again.
Osu needs a newsletter just for this event or some other kind of reminder for not active players
Osu needs a newsletter just for this event or some other kind of reminder for not active players
At least it's one weekend as opposed to an entire fucking month for people who live on east side of US. Finally schedule breaks in our favor.VnSoul wrote:
Optimal schedule for me, the match starts at 4:30 AM in my timezone, but who needs sleep anyway :^)
I was about to complain that it's start at 4:30 am for me too, but thinking about it, yeah east side of USA had so much bad timing haha! (sorry) xDchainpullz wrote:
At least it's one weekend as opposed to an entire fucking month for people who live on east side of US. Finally schedule breaks in our favor.VnSoul wrote:
Optimal schedule for me, the match starts at 4:30 AM in my timezone, but who needs sleep anyway :^)
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oh this fits so perfectly for the current match upPhilantropist wrote:
video
I see what you did there.Loctav wrote:
oh this fits so perfectly for the current match upPhilantropist wrote:
video
that video reminds me of something
lmfao
lmfao
FREEDOM
TWO WORLD CUPS, BOYS.
LET'S FUCKING GO
LET'S FUCKING GO
Can someone clean all the spaghetti from that furioso melodia? Drops everywhere, please never make another pool like this.
Reyvateil wrote:
Can someone clean all the spaghetti from that furioso melodia? Drops everywhere, please never make another pool like this.
It wouldn't have been one of the best matches ever if that map weren't in there. Not everything is about combo/acc.
That was soooooooo much HYPE!! Congratz USA
osu! also came in top 6 on Twitch!
http://i.imgur.com/cxCgqRS.jpg
osu! also came in top 6 on Twitch!
http://i.imgur.com/cxCgqRS.jpg
Was literally the most exciting map that entire match.EtienneXC wrote:
Reyvateil wrote:
Can someone clean all the spaghetti from that furioso melodia? Drops everywhere, please never make another pool like this.
It wouldn't have been one of the best matches ever if that map weren't in there. Not everything is about combo/acc.
Holy crap, first time Murica takes it home, AMAZING PLAY!! :O
Grats to USA for being the first non Asian Country to win the world cup!
my heart hurts
streaming heart :^)sukiNathan wrote:
my heart hurts
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"US did better in the first third, the easiest part, go home boys, the later parts of the map are too hard to combo or acc anyways."chainpullz wrote:
Was literally the most exciting map that entire match.
Such excitement. The gap never moved too much, it was small because of the miss fest never allowed a player get a good score on this at any point.
Topic Starter
Big thank you to every helper of the tournament, making this tournament as great as it could ever be!
Thanks to all participants that joined this competition and make us all have a super fun time together!
And especially thank you to Team China and United States for showing us the most amazing match we have seen in this entire competition, if not in the entire time we are doing the osu! World Cup.
Shoutout to p3n, shARPII and Deif who stay up to every time there is a match, even tho they have other obligations. Shoutout to ztrot for organizing the commentators, to all commentators in particular, to smoogipooo for all the real-time support regarding the client and to the mapselectors ToGlette, Skystar and Cherry Blossom, being the best map selector team I had so far in the OWC. And thanks for Marcin to jump in whenever urgent substitution in streaming is needed, even at worst times!
This was an amazing event and I hope we can have more of these great ones in the future!
Now, let's celebrate!
Thanks to all participants that joined this competition and make us all have a super fun time together!
And especially thank you to Team China and United States for showing us the most amazing match we have seen in this entire competition, if not in the entire time we are doing the osu! World Cup.
Shoutout to p3n, shARPII and Deif who stay up to every time there is a match, even tho they have other obligations. Shoutout to ztrot for organizing the commentators, to all commentators in particular, to smoogipooo for all the real-time support regarding the client and to the mapselectors ToGlette, Skystar and Cherry Blossom, being the best map selector team I had so far in the OWC. And thanks for Marcin to jump in whenever urgent substitution in streaming is needed, even at worst times!
This was an amazing event and I hope we can have more of these great ones in the future!
Now, let's celebrate!
A player could have gone god mode and held combo and single-handedly swung the match at any point. You're honestly just coming off as salty.Reyvateil wrote:
"US did better in the first third, the easiest part, go home boys, the later parts of the map are too hard to combo or acc anyways."chainpullz wrote:
Was literally the most exciting map that entire match.
Such excitement. The gap never moved too much, it was small because of the miss fest never allowed a player get a good score on this at any point.
After rewatching, both Toy and Xilver had combos bigger than 400 in the final 3rd of the map. USA won the map because they performed better overall as a team.
Felt like my heart was going to explode, congratulations to every single player on the US team and to China for putting up an extremely tough fight. That was one of the best matches I've ever watched and I'm glad I was around for it.
Thank you for pulling off such wonderful tournament! #bestOWCeverLoctav wrote:
Big thank you to every helper of the tournament, making this tournament as great as it could ever be!
Thanks to all participants that joined this competition and make us all have a super fun time together!
And especially thank you to Team China and United States for showing us the most amazing match we have seen in this entire competition, if not in the entire time we are doing the osu! World Cup.
Shoutout to p3n, shARPII and Deif who stay up to every time there is a match, even tho they have other obligations. Shoutout to ztrot for organizing the commentators, to all commentators in particular, to smoogipooo for all the real-time support regarding the client and to the mapselectors ToGlette, Skystar and Cherry Blossom, being the best map selector team I had so far in the OWC. And thanks for Marcin to jump in whenever urgent substitution in streaming is needed, even at worst times!
This was an amazing event and I hope we can have more of these great ones in the future!
Now, let's celebrate!
Thanks to you Loctav, you are one of the biggest reasons because this kind of stuff happends. Thank you so much.Loctav wrote:
Big thank you to every helper of the tournament, making this tournament as great as it could ever be!
Thanks to all participants that joined this competition and make us all have a super fun time together!
And especially thank you to Team China and United States for showing us the most amazing match we have seen in this entire competition, if not in the entire time we are doing the osu! World Cup.
Shoutout to p3n, shARPII and Deif who stay up to every time there is a match, even tho they have other obligations. Shoutout to ztrot for organizing the commentators, to all commentators in particular, to smoogipooo for all the real-time support regarding the client and to the mapselectors ToGlette, Skystar and Cherry Blossom, being the best map selector team I had so far in the OWC. And thanks for Marcin to jump in whenever urgent substitution in streaming is needed, even at worst times!
This was an amazing event and I hope we can have more of these great ones in the future!
Now, let's celebrate!
Have to say the commentary this year was top notch. Great grand final.
This was really the best Match i ever see. Congratulation to USA for win and also China for 2nd place.
Also the Commentators, you where so awesome! You guys know how to make more and more Hype! Keep up with this!
Thanks to the whole Staff for organizing such a awesome tournament. Now i can't wait to see the 7K MWC!
Also the Commentators, you where so awesome! You guys know how to make more and more Hype! Keep up with this!
Thanks to the whole Staff for organizing such a awesome tournament. Now i can't wait to see the 7K MWC!
please tell me i wasn't the only one shaking during furioso
holy shit the hype
holy shit the hype
I had to afk in league to celebrate after I heard the win in the background.
The tiebreaker got me off my seat. Never would I expect a better match than that. Amazing finals! USA fought so hard, there were so many times I thought China could just take it.
told yaAka wrote:
i bet usa gonna be on top this year, very good roster
That was the greatest OWC match I could ever ask for <3
I was a shitshow after the US failed at the end of maps they were winning TWICE. I'm so glad the players had better mental fortitude than me. Going into the tiebreaker I was literally having to hold my own hands to keep from visibly shaking.Floob wrote:
please tell me i wasn't the only one shaking during furioso
holy shit the hype
Close Match holy But that was amazing nice job to Both teams
that avatar, every time i see it i have to go back to that flash and let one out.OzzyOzrock wrote:
I had to afk in league to celebrate after I heard the win in the background.
please change it
I was watching the whole thing, talking to my wife in the background who didn't care at all. My hype was real!!!!! I was so excited when the US made the comeback complete!
What a great world cup this year!!!!!
What a great world cup this year!!!!!
This was so good... GG everyone.
Aka the prophetAka wrote:
told yaAka wrote:
i bet usa gonna be on top this year, very good roster
amazing tournament couldn't have asked for more. Kudos to everyone who participated and/or contributed. Next year again!
RIP MECherry Yume wrote:
All my money for China.
Congrats to both teams for great fight! Poland lost with #2 China and #1 USA, the most legitimate #3 ever.
Is there anywhere to watch all the VODs (Group stages all the way to the finals?)
Hiicantpk wrote:
Is there anywhere to watch all the VODs (Group stages all the way to the finals?)
I think they'll all be uploaded to the osu!live youtube channel
All of the matches should be available at osulive on twitch as past broadcasts.Hiicantpk wrote:
Is there anywhere to watch all the VODs (Group stages all the way to the finals?)
That last match was so hype.
I still think 2013 owc is by far the best but this was pretty intense too, (a whole lot better then last year)
Goodjob to all the teams.
Goodjob to all the teams.
Actually, the winner of this tournament is juankristal since he managed to curse so many top ranked players :3
Mappool was great (great to choke) ;w;
Mappool was great (great to choke) ;w;
9th teammember of the US, carrying against Taiwan first and against China in the endToGlette wrote:
Actually, the winner of this tournament is juankristal since he managed to curse so many top ranked players :3
I still can't forget Azer's United FC while the Taiwan match, it was even bigger hype than furioso melodia. Best moment of OWC 2015. Whatever, great job everyone and congratz to team US!
Axarious pls try ctb
ToGlette wrote:
Mappool was great
#blameCB
Absolutely! This tournament was very good and all, but I still think OWC 2013 was the best one! Though I can admit that nostalgia plays a big role here, because it was the first OWC I watched ever.KevEz wrote:
I still think 2013 owc is by far the best but this was pretty intense too, (a whole lot better then last year)