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-Makishima S-
2,434 posts
Joined August 2013
-Makishima S-
Hello there!

Small feedback from me, checked it and looks promissing. Nice job guys!
I found small problem with tag "Precision". I am owner of 99% acc FC of Irreversible CS7 maps but there are not taken into consideration in your script (point wise). If you ask me:



1. Spica is extremly easy to play with HDHRDT if you are used to OD9 (it's OD10 tho but there is nothing particulary hard in this map in matter of patterns)
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055&m=0 Irre Extra takes way more effort to FC with high acc than for example https://osu.ppy.sh/b/253595 - can you explain how it's counted?
3. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/297350 is almost full long slider based map, i dont find it fitting into precision category.

When i find time, i will make more research and maybe play highly pointed maps again to find if they -- in my personal opinion -- fits categories.

Yet, thanks guys for this site, as someone who mainly focus on aim and acc, it showed good score: Aim > Precision > Acc.

Keep up good work, it looks very promissing.
Cheers!
PureFallen
14 posts
Joined June 2014
PureFallen
Nice work, the website looks interesting oO

But i found some error. It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -". The website means, that this user doesn´t exist o:
jimihenrik
7 posts
Joined July 2015
jimihenrik

5522Luca wrote:

It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -".
Don't know what you mean by that. Works fine for me. Try here.
abraker
Global Moderator
8,355 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker
For mania:
While most people can't play 7k very well and can play 4k very well, they should be separated for various keys. While various keycount maps like 8k is ranked, it's possible to separate them
I honestly have no idea. I have a feeling most would vote to separate, put let me see by how much more players agree with it: Go here and vote.
PureFallen
14 posts
Joined June 2014
PureFallen

jimihenrik wrote:

5522Luca wrote:

It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -".
Don't know what you mean by that. Works fine for me. Try here.
Ok, with the URL it works.
I also tried now other names.

Thats some kind of confusing :/
brunn08
147 posts
Joined September 2013
brunn08
Thats a nice website :)
Whip
17 posts
Joined August 2014
Whip
Can i get a cool title just for asking? :D
sonicyellow
7 posts
Joined December 2011
sonicyellow
It seems as though once your profile is generated, it doesn't get updated. I generated my profile this morning, and got a new score some hours later that overrides one of my top 100 scores, yet it still uses the old score even now.

SPOILER
Old Score

New Score
Franc[e]sco
189 posts
Joined August 2009
Franc[e]sco
are you sure Accuracy is correctly accounting for od11? I don't think Rafis' pressure score is less accurate than some of his ar11 scores...

btw, I love the precision stat. it tends to show cool scores on old maps
Kert
2,082 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert

[Taiga] wrote:

1. Spica is extremly easy to play with HDHRDT if you are used to OD9 (it's OD10 tho but there is nothing particulary hard in this map in matter of patterns)
OD? Precision (ability to hit small circles) takes CS and Agility difficulty of the map into account. OD influences Accuracy instead
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055&m=0 Irre Extra takes way more effort to FC with high acc than for example https://osu.ppy.sh/b/253595 - can you explain how it's counted?
My guess is your score didn't reach top100 in the map and your top PP. There is no good way to retrieve all scores currently
3. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/297350 is almost full long slider based map, i dont find it fitting into precision category.
You're probably thinking about OD here
Thanks for the feedback!

Whip wrote:

Can i get a cool title just for asking? :D
Be a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~

sonicyellow wrote:

It seems as though once your profile is generated, it doesn't get updated. I generated my profile this morning, and got a new score some hours later that overrides one of my top 100 scores, yet it still uses the old score even now.
Autoupdating and refresh buttons will be added in the next release.

Franc[e]sco wrote:

are you sure Accuracy is correctly accounting for od11? I don't think Rafis' pressure score is less accurate than some of his ar11 scores...
AR11? AR doesn't influence Accuracy skill
His top Accuracy score is exactly that one on pressure map
Minhtam
550 posts
Joined September 2014
Minhtam
Kert, eventually you're going to have to find a way to access all of a player's recorded scores. For example, I have more than 3300 ranked scores on my account, and I know that I am able to retrieve all of the scores (replays are another matter) just by redownloading the maps that I have scores on. Since those scores are even saved in the first place, it follows that they all must be retrievable from some database somewhere.
Kert
2,082 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert

Minhtam wrote:

Kert, eventually you're going to have to find a way to access all of a player's recorded scores. For example, I have more than 3300 ranked scores on my account, and I know that I am able to retrieve all of the scores (replays are another matter) just by redownloading the maps that I have scores on. Since those scores are even saved in the first place, it follows that they all must be retrievable from some database somewhere.
There is a way but I doubt peppy wants me to spam the servers with ~37k osu!api requests for each user.
I'd really love this to support all scores too of course
Tachibana
51 posts
Joined November 2010
Tachibana

Kert wrote:

Minhtam wrote:

Kert, eventually you're going to have to find a way to access all of a player's recorded scores. For example, I have more than 3300 ranked scores on my account, and I know that I am able to retrieve all of the scores (replays are another matter) just by redownloading the maps that I have scores on. Since those scores are even saved in the first place, it follows that they all must be retrievable from some database somewhere.
There is a way but I doubt peppy wants me to spam the servers with ~37k osu!api requests for each user.
I'd really love this to support all scores too of course

is there a way to catch all scores submitted from someone who already created a profile on the site? ie, if i already looked up myself on osuskill, you could create a bot to monitor me and all the scores i submit, might require the bot to have a few things though. namely 1. adding everyone who creates a profile (maybe ask peppy to increase the limit on the bots account? no clue if he'd do it) 2. have every map so you can check friend rankings? (does friend rankings go past top 50? idk tbh lol)

just an idea, i could be completely off.
Fernandoboshy
3 posts
Joined March 2015
Fernandoboshy
Can i Select for my osu skill in a determined mode? (std, mania, taiko and ctb)
tfg50
149 posts
Joined September 2013
tfg50

Kert wrote:

Be a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~


Do I need to say anything?
Kert
2,082 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert

tfg50 wrote:

Kert wrote:

Be a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~


Do I need to say anything?
I am not sure what you're trying to say
In your case you'd get a title for having Accuracy as your main speciality
But titles are not implemented yet
Ameth Rianno
515 posts
Joined November 2014
Ameth Rianno
That feeling like playing a rpg.

It this just for standard mode only?
dong
329 posts
Joined May 2014
dong
man, is this gonna be the next osu!tp? I'm so excited to see what comes next in this project!
tfg50
149 posts
Joined September 2013
tfg50
True, I was just being dumb =P. I'm really looking forward to seeing how you guys implement reading.
I can't understand tenacity though, judging by (the first on) my list it seems like spaced long streams give tenacity. Is the spacing really considered? Maybe acc, considering that it is a od9 map. I don't think this should give ANY "tenacity" at all, there's only 1 stream on the whole map https://osu.ppy.sh/b/41646 .
Also, how do you separate singletap/slow streams? I know that I play some patterns alternating even though most singletap players would simply singletap through it so I'm curious.
DeletedUser_4329079
DeletedUser_4329079
Very cool site,looking foward for future uptates.

btw Is reading really going to be implemented? How are you going to calculate it?
Chilli
4 posts
Joined July 2014
Chilli
I'd love to see a leader board for each stat or the top plays in each stat. Just a suggestion :)
Lanturn
osu! Alumni
3,912 posts
Joined March 2012
Lanturn
This made me laugh



cool little tool. I'm looking forward to seeing the memory section, since that might be the only thing I'm decent at in this game :P
Franc[e]sco
189 posts
Joined August 2009
Franc[e]sco

Kert wrote:

[Taiga] wrote:

1. Spica is extremly easy to play with HDHRDT if you are used to OD9 (it's OD10 tho but there is nothing particulary hard in this map in matter of patterns)
OD? Precision (ability to hit small circles) takes CS and Agility difficulty of the map into account. OD influences Accuracy instead
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055&m=0 Irre Extra takes way more effort to FC with high acc than for example https://osu.ppy.sh/b/253595 - can you explain how it's counted?
My guess is your score didn't reach top100 in the map and your top PP. There is no good way to retrieve all scores currently
3. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/297350 is almost full long slider based map, i dont find it fitting into precision category.
You're probably thinking about OD here
Thanks for the feedback!

Whip wrote:

Can i get a cool title just for asking? :D
Be a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~

sonicyellow wrote:

It seems as though once your profile is generated, it doesn't get updated. I generated my profile this morning, and got a new score some hours later that overrides one of my top 100 scores, yet it still uses the old score even now.
Autoupdating and refresh buttons will be added in the next release.

Franc[e]sco wrote:

are you sure Accuracy is correctly accounting for od11? I don't think Rafis' pressure score is less accurate than some of his ar11 scores...
AR11? AR doesn't influence Accuracy skill
His top Accuracy score is exactly that one on pressure map
no no I meant od11 (od10+dt), which is pretty common in ar11 plays. I think accuracy should scale a little more exponentially towards od11, cause pressure is "only" OD10.3, and getting 98.5 or higher on a OD11 map is more impressive accuracy-wise
EDIT: lol my bad just realized I typo'd that post, I meant that his Pressure score is LESS accurate than his od11 plays
abraker
Global Moderator
8,355 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker

Default wrote:

Very cool site,looking foward for future uptates.

btw Is reading really going to be implemented? How are you going to calculate it?
Based on hidden objects, cluster chaos, time to react, and a couple of other factors. I believe this is the hardest part and might take some time to implement.
Yauxo
1,622 posts
Joined June 2011
Yauxo

abraker wrote:

Default wrote:

Very cool site,looking foward for future uptates.

btw Is reading really going to be implemented? How are you going to calculate it?
Based on hidden objects, cluster chaos, time to react, and a couple of other factors. I believe this is the hardest part and might take some time to implement.
I love you
Minhtam
550 posts
Joined September 2014
Minhtam

Kert wrote:

Minhtam wrote:

Kert, eventually you're going to have to find a way to access all of a player's recorded scores. For example, I have more than 3300 ranked scores on my account, and I know that I am able to retrieve all of the scores (replays are another matter) just by redownloading the maps that I have scores on. Since those scores are even saved in the first place, it follows that they all must be retrievable from some database somewhere.
There is a way but I doubt peppy wants me to spam the servers with ~37k osu!api requests for each user.
I'd really love this to support all scores too of course
Why not set up a deal with peppy to make a mirror server that can draw on those scores?
Tachibana
51 posts
Joined November 2010
Tachibana
as someone said earlier, the site doesnt seem to update scores, i just redid one of my scores (which is my top for accuracy) and it still shows my old acc
gameon123321
57 posts
Joined December 2012
gameon123321
I like this, it's very different from the new pp because it shows my skills in detail.

http://osuskills.tk/user/gameon123321/skill/tenacity

The tenacity calculations seem a bit off. I understand some, like chase the light and mendes. But why are arc and try this two of my top tenacity scores? Is it because of the stacked 1/2 beats which calculate as extremely slow streams? Is it because the slow counts in try this are recorded as streams?

Also, on http://osuskills.tk/user/Xilver/skill/tenacity vs http://osuskills.tk/user/HappyStick/skill/tenacity, how is ragnarok on hr less streamy than ragnarok on nomod?


This is very useful, so keep it up!
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Rilene
2,105 posts
Joined April 2014
Rilene
I'm still waiting for Memory and Reading skills.
Mid
790 posts
Joined April 2012
Mid
When this supports Taiko call me, I really like this proyect, hope it's useful for the rest of the players :D
StephOsu
1,216 posts
Joined February 2015
StephOsu
Looks nice
can't wait for it to be complete
makkhi
1 post
Joined October 2014
makkhi
Wahat hahahah they're like the same person

TheLukay
122 posts
Joined July 2012
TheLukay

Kert wrote:

Be a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~
Does being especially bad also count? :D

It's really nice to see with all these different categories what your strenghts are and it's way more comparable than your rank.
I'm 8.4K and my friend is 4.2K haha


I'm really good at being inaccurate huehuehue
Nathaniel
67 posts
Joined May 2015
Nathaniel
I took a quick look at how this works. This is really useful in telling your progress in comparison to your friends, rather than using listed scores, or rank as a way to decide who's better. It makes the game a bit more competitive, I like this idea. Keep up the great work.
CptHampton
66 posts
Joined August 2013
CptHampton
IIRC on the osu!tp site you could look up a beatmap with a certain mod combination and it would tell you the difficulty in terms of each stat. If you're already calculating all of this information, I think that would be a useful feature for the site. And maybe even be able to look up maps in your range, like be able to search for a list of maps with a stamina rating between [X] and [Y]. Awesome project!
Defacer
131 posts
Joined October 2011
Defacer
this is great! one very big improvement would be an individual leader board/ranking for each stat similar to old osutp where players competed in aim/speed/acc points.
NeoAxel
15 posts
Joined July 2015
NeoAxel
Great idea, but I found a bug. I don't know if this has anything to do with the beta version,
but my scores don't update, and I still have my old scores of when I first checked my profile on osu!skills.
If this is normal, feel free to ignore this post.
sonicyellow
7 posts
Joined December 2011
sonicyellow

NeoAxel58 wrote:

Great idea, but I found a bug. I don't know if this has anything to do with the beta version,
but my scores don't update, and I still have my old scores of when I first checked my profile on osu!skills.
If this is normal, feel free to ignore this post.

Kert wrote:

Autoupdating and refresh buttons will be added in the next release.
Surono
7,197 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono

Midnaait wrote:

When this supports Taiko call me, I really like this proyect, hope it's useful for the rest of the players :D
DT-sama
191 posts
Joined October 2013
DT-sama

Franc[e]sco wrote:

no no I meant od11 (od10+dt), which is pretty common in ar11 plays. I think accuracy should scale a little more exponentially towards od11, cause pressure is "only" OD10.3, and getting 98.5 or higher on a OD11 map is more impressive accuracy-wise
EDIT: lol my bad just realized I typo'd that post, I meant that his Pressure score is LESS accurate than his od11 plays
http://osuskills.tk/user/emperorpenguin83
OD11 is properly accounted for, in my opinion. Keep in mind that Pressure is a OD10.3 almost SS. That's definitely a better accuracy score than a low 98% on OD11.
Kankri
192 posts
Joined June 2014
Kankri
Recently checked it out, it's really nice!

Here's something to add, I personally think you should add multiple modes (e.g taiko, osu!mania, ctb).

Compared to std players, some of them don't play std often/not at all, and usually play the other modes.

It would be nice if you could add more modes! I don't play std often and I'm already good enough in Taiko!

GL on osu!skills! ;)
Kert
2,082 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert

gameon123321 wrote:

I like this, it's very different from the new pp because it shows my skills in detail.

http://osuskills.tk/user/gameon123321/skill/tenacity

The tenacity calculations seem a bit off. I understand some, like chase the light and mendes. But why are arc and try this two of my top tenacity scores? Is it because of the stacked 1/2 beats which calculate as extremely slow streams? Is it because the slow counts in try this are recorded as streams?

Also, on http://osuskills.tk/user/Xilver/skill/tenacity vs http://osuskills.tk/user/HappyStick/skill/tenacity, how is ragnarok on hr less streamy than ragnarok on nomod?


This is very useful, so keep it up!
Sorry, I missed your post earlier
Tenacity for Arc is high for that one long stream (spaced one)
As for Xilver and HappyStick scores - Xilver has less combo. HR doesn't affect tenacity
gameon123321
57 posts
Joined December 2012
gameon123321

Kert wrote:

gameon123321 wrote:

I like this, it's very different from the new pp because it shows my skills in detail.

http://osuskills.tk/user/gameon123321/skill/tenacity

The tenacity calculations seem a bit off. I understand some, like chase the light and mendes. But why are arc and try this two of my top tenacity scores? Is it because of the stacked 1/2 beats which calculate as extremely slow streams? Is it because the slow counts in try this are recorded as streams?

Also, on http://osuskills.tk/user/Xilver/skill/tenacity vs http://osuskills.tk/user/HappyStick/skill/tenacity, how is ragnarok on hr less streamy than ragnarok on nomod?


This is very useful, so keep it up!
Sorry, I missed your post earlier
Tenacity for Arc is high for that one long stream (spaced one)
As for Xilver and HappyStick scores - Xilver has less combo. HR doesn't affect tenacity

Oh, oops -.-

I also missed the stream on Try This... :?

Thanks for replying!
DIOkuya
21 posts
Joined June 2015
DIOkuya
Amazing! GL on the progress for this,it looks promising already.
'pparently i'm best with my agility.
Leadenginger
3 posts
Joined December 2013
Leadenginger
I think I found a bug in my information because my highest score for precision is a 21pp play on Kana Ueda - Pumpkin Ondo. It also shows up under tenacity but isn't there in any of the other categories.
Not that I'm contesting the scores that the map gives but that a 21pp play is nowhere near my top100 as my 100th score is around 120pp.
vz-401
vz-401
wows :)
Imperf3kt
75 posts
Joined December 2012
Imperf3kt
Its a great concept, but like pp relies on prior plays.
My Tenacity is rated 420, but I think thats only going on outdated info.
I don't know how good 420 is, but I know there's no way I could hit that today.

Pretty cool system though, useful.
Pope Gadget
osu! Alumni
328 posts
Joined January 2013
Pope Gadget

Imperf3kt wrote:

I don't know how good 420 is,
it's pretty dank
Kert
2,082 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert
Updater updatie update!
- Added Top 100 scores and Top PP scores autoupdates.
Global updates happen weekly and scores from Top PP lists update twice a day (at max)
- You can also see how much you've improved since your previous osu!Skills user update
- Added flags, an osu!Skills site logo, loading animations
- Added Recently checked section
- Added short skill descriptions to some pages
- Fixed some calculator bugs
- Fixed problems for usernames with spaces

If anything looks broken try clearing cache and/or refreshing the page with Ctrl-F5
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abraker
Global Moderator
8,355 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker
Before this forum gets flooded by bug reports the following is known:
  • Long bars (900+) go to the next line in VS
    There are visible bullets in the recently checked section
    Last user's avatar gets cut off in the recently checked section if there is a VS search in the list
EDIT: All seems fixed
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Kert
2,082 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert
Have you tried refreshing the page? (ctrl-f5)
ARRACHEZ VOUS
99 posts
Joined July 2008
ARRACHEZ VOUS
I think the calculation is a bit wrong (especially with Tenacity) but I like the idea, nice work !
[ Scarlet Red ]
379 posts
Joined September 2013
[ Scarlet Red ]
I really actually like this! It's quite fun to check yourself out and see where you stand in terms of your own skill and to improve yourself in different aspects. It's really cool actually :)
Hamzalopode
6 posts
Joined May 2014
Hamzalopode
We need Osu!Mania skill D:
AirOneBlack
74 posts
Joined January 2015
AirOneBlack

Hamzalopode wrote:

We need Osu!Mania skill D:
^ this :)
Professor Gila
644 posts
Joined December 2014
Professor Gila
i think some players have discussed them, but it seems it still need to be discussed (inb4 for taiko mode hasn't been discussed yet)

p/4609373
Pahare
75 posts
Joined March 2014
Pahare
damn found HazzardFreak has 1050 points on precision on granat irre's extra hdhr (we definitlly need a chart to see who has the best in 1 stat and who has most overall)
Piine
1,573 posts
Joined March 2012
Piine
Waiting for that CTB mode lol
abraker
Global Moderator
8,355 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker

Pahare wrote:

damn found HazzardFreak has 1050 points on precision on granat irre's extra hdhr (we definitlly need a chart to see who has the best in 1 stat and who has most overall)
Wow... updated my post.
Acuiasa
32 posts
Joined March 2015
Acuiasa
It's fun to see what I excel at and what is my week point and this allows me to do that.
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Harem_lover XD
1 post
Joined April 2014
Harem_lover XD
Hey. I'm having trouble with my results because it says that my username was incorrect. :?
Professor Gila
644 posts
Joined December 2014
Professor Gila
try use underscore for space?
Kert
2,082 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert

Harem_lover XD wrote:

Hey. I'm having trouble with my results because it says that my username was incorrect. :?
Fixed~ Try again!
OtakGravure
OtakGravure
Good Idea
iiko
160 posts
Joined October 2014
iiko
Spaces do not work. It shows me as Kasane_Teto, instead of Kasane Teto.
Hamzalopode
6 posts
Joined May 2014
Hamzalopode
Faker = ∞ points skill :p
Myxo
osu! Alumni
3,103 posts
Joined December 2012
Myxo
Really good idea, I'm looking much forward to the final version! (Especially to the calculated Reading Skills....)
Kert
2,082 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert

Kasane Teto wrote:

Spaces do not work. It shows me as Kasane_Teto, instead of Kasane Teto.
Hopefully fixed this.

If anyone wants Memory skill to be implemented faster, please help in the thread - Best FL plays
tecu
97 posts
Joined May 2013
tecu
Something about the updating of top scores doesn't seem to be working correctly.

I had a 98.82% FC that I improved to 99.53% some 10 hours ago, which probably should increase its value in Accuracy. However, despite having supposedly updated my Top PP "about 2 hours ago", it still displays my old percentage and Rhythmic accuracy score.
Magnolia
Magnolia

tecu wrote:

Something about the updating of top scores doesn't seem to be working correctly.

I had a 98.82% FC that I improved to 99.53% some 10 hours ago, which probably should increase its value in Accuracy. However, despite having supposedly updated my Top PP "about 2 hours ago", it still displays my old percentage and Rhythmic accuracy score.

thats just the last time your name was loaded it clearly says the last update was 3 days ago, would love to see it update every few hours (or hour) waitting sucks ukn
tecu
97 posts
Joined May 2013
tecu

Magnolia wrote:

thats just the last time your name was loaded it clearly says the last update was 3 days ago, would love to see it update every few hours (or hour) waitting sucks ukn

Kert wrote:

Global updates happen weekly and scores from Top PP lists update twice a day (at max)
Last updates: Top 100 — 3 days ago | tecu's Top PP — about 3 hours ago
To my understanding, this means that the global scores were updated 3 days ago and my personal top scores 3 hours ago.
Kert
2,082 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert
Did it reach your Top PP scores?
tecu
97 posts
Joined May 2013
tecu

Kert wrote:

Did it reach your Top PP scores?
The very score is displayed on my top performances on my Osu! profile page.

Hatsune Miku - Recommended Spell [Insane] +HD,HR (99.53%)
about 12 hours ago
(215pp)

The old score that's still displayed on my osu!Skills profile page page is:

Hatsune Miku - Recommended Spell (val0108) [Insane] +HDHR (98.82%) (492 points in Accuracy)


EDIT: The score also entered global top 100 in case that matters.
Kert
2,082 posts
Joined June 2009
Topic Starter
Kert
Fixed.
Acuiasa
32 posts
Joined March 2015
Acuiasa
How often does this update scores? I made some new top 100 plays but none of my numbers went up when I first checked. I checked back a few days later and the stats are different.
Gigo
266 posts
Joined March 2013
Gigo

Acuiasa wrote:

How often does this update scores? I made some new top 100 plays but none of my numbers went up when I first checked. I checked back a few days later and the stats are different.

Kert wrote:

Global updates happen weekly and scores from Top PP lists update twice a day (at max)
Hestia-
271 posts
Joined June 2010
Hestia-
I can't wait to see how good 224dj really is at ctb
RaneFire
1,181 posts
Joined May 2011
RaneFire
This is awesome. Great work! Clean UI, easy to use and good analysis with versus. As it is now, it would be cool if you could compare multiple players instead of just 2, but I don't know what you are planning for the future regarding the versus function.

Similar to what tp was used for back in the day, this is nice to see where I am falling short and where others similar in skill to me are excelling and I am not.

I'm looking forward to your guys' take on rhythmic accuracy and memory. I remember the thread about it from a while back, and the discussion put forward some interesting concepts, suggesting not only is it possible, but it could eventually be quite an accurate metric. It just takes a lot of analysis before coming up with a rather simple set of conditions/rules... as you are doing! Keep it up!
Nelly
Beatmap Nominator
1,536 posts
Joined August 2014
Nelly
Great work on it!

I think the Memory calculation not only FL but HD mod
Since HD is almost familiared with FL the difference is on HD you cant see the circles and FL is covering the whole screen except your cursor

This should be added on Memory calculation

Thanks for the support :D
Endaris
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Endaris

Nelly wrote:

I think the Memory calculation not only FL but HD mod
Since HD is almost familiared with FL the difference is on HD you cant see the circles and FL is covering the whole screen except your cursor
You obviously never tried to FC something with FL nor did you think about what memory means.
Minhtam
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Minhtam

Endaris wrote:

Nelly wrote:

I think the Memory calculation not only FL but HD mod
Since HD is almost familiared with FL the difference is on HD you cant see the circles and FL is covering the whole screen except your cursor
You obviously never tried to FC something with FL nor did you think about what memory means.
Ditto. I play FL on the easy maps every now and then and boy is it extremely hard.
laeamminlakana
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laeamminlakana
I like it, clean UI, explains it's statistics, all around kinda nice to look at.

One thing I'd like to see is recent statistics though, I don't know how limited the osu! api is, but having the past 100 finished plays count somehow could give us a really nice way of seeing if a player is in a slump or when they last worked on ranking.

That said, I really am only saying this because I'm about to come to this game after barely playing during the past month, and want to monitor dem stats go up like crazy.
Kert
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Kert
Thank you for your feedback! It encourages us to continue our work~

Also we have a new update today...
Memory skill added!
Rilene
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Rilene

Kert wrote:

Thank you for your feedback! It encourages us to continue our work~

Also we have a new update today...
Memory skill added!
omg, i got 0 memory skill

I'm still waiting for Reading skills
abraker
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abraker
Spent another many hours looking, at found these 3 players with more than 900 skill rating on at least one map.
http://osuskills.tk/user/Mesita/skill/memory
http://osuskills.tk/user/Adamqs/skill/memory
http://osuskills.tk/user/Bikko
muxosk
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muxosk
There's some weird stuff going on in the bottom of my tenacity scores.

Both Hishoku No Sora and Seventh-Heaven have triples and 5 note streams, while neither is something I'd expect any significant tenacity score from this seems really low.
Pls Enjoy Game
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Pls Enjoy Game
Very good work, got a little question, the score are "random"? I mean i have several top 100 score and several sub 100 score , i don't understand , all the score work or only the top score? Memory and precision seems to be sub 100 but not the other .

Sorry for bad englando \o/
Pahare
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Pahare
for some reason i can't check WubWoofWolf on the site for 2 days already... it says that it's currently calculating
Kert
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Kert

Goober wrote:

There's some weird stuff going on in the bottom of my tenacity scores.
Both Hishoku No Sora and Seventh-Heaven have triples and 5 note streams, while neither is something I'd expect any significant tenacity score from this seems really low.
Tenacity considers streams longer than 6 notes

Pls Enjoy Game wrote:

Very good work, got a little question, the score are "random"? I mean i have several top 100 score and several sub 100 score , i don't understand , all the score work or only the top score? Memory and precision seems to be sub 100 but not the other .

Sorry for bad englando \o/
The scores are taken from top100 map scoreboards and your topPP plays

Pahare wrote:

for some reason i can't check WubWoofWolf on the site for 2 days already... it says that it's currently calculating
Thanks for telling me. Fixed
Endaris
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Endaris
Top-Plays that get pushed out of your Top 100 plays will get deleted from osu!skills even if it would remain a high score for a specific skill:
p/4607170
^the nyanyan score was with NF and gave me 92pp when i submitted it, now it got pushed out and it disappeared from Tenacity completely.
(AND I STILL THINK IT'S UNDERWEIGHTED)
ARRACHEZ VOUS
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ARRACHEZ VOUS

Kert wrote:

Tenacity considers streams longer than 6 notes
Bursting 6 notes like a retard is pretty easy and doesn't mean you can actually stream.

My Tenacity is way too high.

It should be around 12 notes or more imo !
Rilene
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Rilene

Mayu Watanabe wrote:

It should be around 12 notes or more imo !
It's just ordinary streams, not deathstreams.
Endaris
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Endaris
If anything 6 is a lame limit though.
Short streams are 5 -8 notes and longer streams are generally just above 8.
So either pick 9 or 5 as the lower boundary but 6 makes no sense.
Kert
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Kert

Endaris wrote:

If anything 6 is a lame limit though.
Short streams are 5 -8 notes and longer streams are generally just above 8.
So either pick 9 or 5 as the lower boundary but 6 makes no sense.
It's pretty subjective
I chose 7note streams as a starting point for this

Also

Endaris wrote:

Top-Plays that get pushed out of your Top 100 plays will get deleted from osu!skills even if it would remain a high score for a specific skill:
p/4607170
^the nyanyan score was with NF and gave me 92pp when i submitted it, now it got pushed out and it disappeared from Tenacity completely.
(AND I STILL THINK IT'S UNDERWEIGHTED)
That's how it works yeah
But I'll see what I can do
ARRACHEZ VOUS
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ARRACHEZ VOUS

Rilene wrote:

It's just ordinary streams, not deathstreams.
?

Deathstreams are more like 20+.

Just like Endaris said, SHORT streams are 5-8 and you can't judge streaming skills in short streams when you know that you can just smash your keyboard to do them.

With longer streams (or no-short streams) you need finger control, this is what Tenacity makes me think.
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Rilene
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Rilene
Then at least 8 notes should do.
Kert
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In any case the shorter the stream the less it gives.
Same for speed.
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Insanix_old_1
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This is only for std?
abraker
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abraker

-iNSaNiX- wrote:

This is only for std?
For now, yes
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