Everyone can suggest stuff here in this threadProfessor Prinny wrote:
Even if you aren't proficient in the other mods, couldn't you discuss it with people who are?
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Based on what I wrote in my earlier post I suggest the following:
Right now it looks like you're checking OD first and rhythmical complexity after(if at all). Worst case would be if you just check amount of circles vs. amount of sliders.
In my opinion you should try and figure out some difficulty for rhythmic patterns and factor in speed and OD based on how difficult the pattern actually is.
This would fix the issue of rhythmically very easy maps with high OD(esp Easy and Normaldiffs with DTHR) being overweight in terms of accuracy while it would push actually difficult maps up as the OD would be worth more.
Right now it looks like you're checking OD first and rhythmical complexity after(if at all). Worst case would be if you just check amount of circles vs. amount of sliders.
In my opinion you should try and figure out some difficulty for rhythmic patterns and factor in speed and OD based on how difficult the pattern actually is.
This would fix the issue of rhythmically very easy maps with high OD(esp Easy and Normaldiffs with DTHR) being overweight in terms of accuracy while it would push actually difficult maps up as the OD would be worth more.
Topic Starter
Don't worry we're updating accuracy hopefully at the end of this weekEndaris wrote:
Based on what I wrote in my earlier post I suggest the following:
Right now it looks like you're checking OD first and rhythmical complexity after(if at all). Worst case would be if you just check amount of circles vs. amount of sliders.
In my opinion you should try and figure out some difficulty for rhythmic patterns and factor in speed and OD based on how difficult the pattern actually is.
This would fix the issue of rhythmically very easy maps with high OD(esp Easy and Normaldiffs with DTHR) being overweight in terms of accuracy while it would push actually difficult maps up as the OD would be worth more.
Topic Starter
Yes.
Meanwhile we got a new update!
- Added user top PP scores
- Versus mode
- New Accuracy algorithm
- Some scaling tweaks
- Cosmetic changes
Meanwhile we got a new update!
- Added user top PP scores
- Versus mode
- New Accuracy algorithm
- Some scaling tweaks
- Cosmetic changes
You're awesome
Houtarou Oreki wrote:
You're awesome
Already looks way better. Quite a lot to do still.
My precision-rank though:
This should try to include spacing and speed somehow, as Aozora+HR is pretty easy to aim compared to stuff like Saika. As the "ability to hit small circles" is related to Agility there should be some noticeable influence.
My precision-rank though:
SPOILER
Precision
QLOCKS - Aozora (v2b) [x265 Difficulty] +HDHR (99.05%)
452
Hitomi Kuroishi - Over the Sky (Card N'FoRcE) [Hard] +HDHR (96.32%)
445
Hyadain - CRASH!! (Let's do it) (mtmcl) [Burai's Insane] (94.41%)
375
Wada Kouji - Biggest Dreamer (Ekaru) [Kasada's Insane] (94.89%)
363
Chata - Papapapanda (Nymph) [Insane] +HR (98.68%)
361
Koji Kondo - Dragon Roost Island (HolyBoy) [Normal] +HDHR (98.33%)
357
Rabpit - Saika (tsuka) [Expert] (98.7%)
348
Amane - Melt in the sky (Gabi) [Hard] +HR (97.9%)
336
Nightcore - You Got Me Dancing (osuplayer111) [Insane] (96.5%)
327
Kajiura Yuki - The Dreamers (Lissette) [Hard] +HR (97.2%)
316
DJ Satomi - Castles in the Sky (Hikato) [Insane] (98.41%)
313
Masami Ueda - Shinshuu Plains (Card N'FoRcE) [God] (96.66%)
308
Drop - Granat (Kaguya Hourain) [Hard] +HDHR (99%)
299
Enya - Trains And Winter Rains (Blue Dragon) [Hard] (99.49%)
289
QLOCKS - Aozora (v2b) [x265 Difficulty] +HDHR (99.05%)
452
Hitomi Kuroishi - Over the Sky (Card N'FoRcE) [Hard] +HDHR (96.32%)
445
Hyadain - CRASH!! (Let's do it) (mtmcl) [Burai's Insane] (94.41%)
375
Wada Kouji - Biggest Dreamer (Ekaru) [Kasada's Insane] (94.89%)
363
Chata - Papapapanda (Nymph) [Insane] +HR (98.68%)
361
Koji Kondo - Dragon Roost Island (HolyBoy) [Normal] +HDHR (98.33%)
357
Rabpit - Saika (tsuka) [Expert] (98.7%)
348
Amane - Melt in the sky (Gabi) [Hard] +HR (97.9%)
336
Nightcore - You Got Me Dancing (osuplayer111) [Insane] (96.5%)
327
Kajiura Yuki - The Dreamers (Lissette) [Hard] +HR (97.2%)
316
DJ Satomi - Castles in the Sky (Hikato) [Insane] (98.41%)
313
Masami Ueda - Shinshuu Plains (Card N'FoRcE) [God] (96.66%)
308
Drop - Granat (Kaguya Hourain) [Hard] +HDHR (99%)
299
Enya - Trains And Winter Rains (Blue Dragon) [Hard] (99.49%)
289
This should try to include spacing and speed somehow, as Aozora+HR is pretty easy to aim compared to stuff like Saika. As the "ability to hit small circles" is related to Agility there should be some noticeable influence.
Ability to hit small circles should be related to precision, not agility.Endaris wrote:
As the "ability to hit small circles" is related to Agility there should be some noticeable influence.
You can't hit a small circle without moving your cursor using your agility... ?
And if you can, you don't have to move your cursor and it isn't impressive at all if you hit it?
And if you can, you don't have to move your cursor and it isn't impressive at all if you hit it?
If this is developed well it could actually do just that.CelegaS wrote:
Should be ppv3
Topic Starter
Works for me.
Streaming/stamina can need some love too, it looks like deathstreams are correctly identified but that apart it's not looking so good:
This is for Tenacity
daniwellP - Nyanyanyanyanyanyanya! (theowest) [Collab] (97.87%)
326
(one hell of a long stream-map with spaced streams(up to 16 notes?) but no deathstreams)
DJ Genericname - Dear You (Rue) [Dear Rue] (98.32%)
393
Master Blaster - Come Clean (Nightcore Mix) (Asphyxia) [Collab] (97.44%)
390
Ceui - Asphodelus (terametis) [Insane] (99.05%)
382
^ all way easier in terms of streaming
The 15bpm difference to Asphodelus shouldn't matter at all if you look at the density of streams and the spacing.
Streaming/stamina can need some love too, it looks like deathstreams are correctly identified but that apart it's not looking so good:
This is for Tenacity
daniwellP - Nyanyanyanyanyanyanya! (theowest) [Collab] (97.87%)
326
(one hell of a long stream-map with spaced streams(up to 16 notes?) but no deathstreams)
DJ Genericname - Dear You (Rue) [Dear Rue] (98.32%)
393
Master Blaster - Come Clean (Nightcore Mix) (Asphyxia) [Collab] (97.44%)
390
Ceui - Asphodelus (terametis) [Insane] (99.05%)
382
^ all way easier in terms of streaming
The 15bpm difference to Asphodelus shouldn't matter at all if you look at the density of streams and the spacing.
Wait, so osu!Skills counts the players top 100 performances instead of the top 100 scores now?
both, but top 100 scores aren't updated as regularlyMinhtam wrote:
Wait, so osu!Skills counts the players top 100 performances instead of the top 100 scores now?
It needs to be able to count more than that. I have plenty of scores that would have given more than 200 precision (thanks +HR), but they don't count because they fall outside my top 100 plays, hence my low precision rating. If there was a way for osu!Skills to take into account every single recorded score, the program would be absolutely perfect.Endaris wrote:
both, but top 100 scores aren't updated as regularlyMinhtam wrote:
Wait, so osu!Skills counts the players top 100 performances instead of the top 100 scores now?
Are you guys do have some API implementation on the future development?
if you do, please make some wiki or documentation of it like osu! did.
if you do, please make some wiki or documentation of it like osu! did.
And sorry, a little bit some of bug issues. Why does most of the performances on the list taken on normal mode. Can you implement it on mania mode too?
*its cause i'm a mania player.
*its cause i'm a mania player.
woulld be best if you can measure skills for osu!mania too 
Dj Spada
Really, I really approved it! 
Good work, and keep it up!
Good work, and keep it up!
very interesting :3
how about for other mode?
how about for other mode?
I havent ranked 100 maps yet, so how does this program calculate my skill?
Topic Starter
We're not considering this currently.-Sandy Corzeta- wrote:
Are you guys do have some API implementation on the future development?
It looks at your scores from here - https://osu.ppy.sh/u/7023372#_leader and recalculates them in osu!Skillsrurumofb wrote:
I havent ranked 100 maps yet, so how does this program calculate my skill?
For anyone wanting other modes (taiko, ctb, maniato be implemented:
Suggest a list of skills for a mode and give precise descriptions. After that we can start implementing new modes too.
Great!
my suggestion for ctb:
Reading: since ctb has AR, reading should be implemented
Agility: how perfect the timing when players dash to get another fruit, or when the player moves
Precision: how stable the fruit catches. Is it at the middle (most precised), or at the edges (less precised) (need help for this point, is this point as accuracy or precision) rip english? ;w;
Accuracy: Overall accuracy
Memory: Flashlight Performance
Instinct: Hidden Performance (Perhaps this should be implemented too, on std, taiko and mania?)
That's all i can tell for ctb, i need help here ;w;
Edit: For precision, due to the limitation on catcher speed, sometimes the fruit couldn't be caught at the center, but it possibly does (although not so center), but requires more agility :3
inb4 this stuff will be featured on next osu weekly ;w;
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;w; why osu api limits to top100 scores only, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww;
my suggestion for ctb:
Reading: since ctb has AR, reading should be implemented
Agility: how perfect the timing when players dash to get another fruit, or when the player moves
Precision: how stable the fruit catches. Is it at the middle (most precised), or at the edges (less precised) (need help for this point, is this point as accuracy or precision) rip english? ;w;
Accuracy: Overall accuracy
Memory: Flashlight Performance
Instinct: Hidden Performance (Perhaps this should be implemented too, on std, taiko and mania?)
That's all i can tell for ctb, i need help here ;w;
Edit: For precision, due to the limitation on catcher speed, sometimes the fruit couldn't be caught at the center, but it possibly does (although not so center), but requires more agility :3
inb4 this stuff will be featured on next osu weekly ;w;
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;w; why osu api limits to top100 scores only, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww;
lidahapi wrote:
Great!
my suggestion for ctb:
Reading: since ctb has AR, reading should be implemented
Agility: how perfect the timing when players dash to get another fruit, or when the player moves
Precision: how stable the fruit catches. Is it at the middle (most precised), or at the edges (less precised) (need help for this point, is this point as accuracy or precision) [spoiler]rip english? ;w;[/spoiler]
Accuracy: Overall accuracy
Memory: Flashlight Performance
Instinct: Hidden Performance (Perhaps this should be implemented on std, taiko and mania?)
That's all i can tell for ctb, i need help here ;w;
[spoiler]inb4 this stuff will be featured on next osu weekly ;w;[/spoiler]
Agility and precision would require replays, what makes it... difficult if not impossible.
mania has accuracy , stamina , reading , speed as the main part..
idk if this term needed at all
- jumpstream : http://puu.sh/kUD9I.png
- jackhammers : http://puu.sh/kUDcL.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDe1.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDgc.png : http://puu.sh/kUDiE.png
- Long Notes : http://puu.sh/kUDeW.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDkA.png
- Chords : http://puu.sh/kUDnC.png ;
- quadstream : http://puu.sh/kUDwu.jpg ; http://puu.sh/kUDxO.png
- Burst : http://puu.sh/kUDEy.png ;
- stairs : http://puu.sh/kUE3j.png (1/4 1/6 and 1/8 also called stairs with the pattern like that)
and some weird things i don't know the term used : http://puu.sh/kUDZP.jpg
- jackhammers : http://puu.sh/kUDcL.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDe1.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDgc.png : http://puu.sh/kUDiE.png
- Long Notes : http://puu.sh/kUDeW.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDkA.png
- Chords : http://puu.sh/kUDnC.png ;
- quadstream : http://puu.sh/kUDwu.jpg ; http://puu.sh/kUDxO.png
- Burst : http://puu.sh/kUDEy.png ;
- stairs : http://puu.sh/kUE3j.png (1/4 1/6 and 1/8 also called stairs with the pattern like that)
and some weird things i don't know the term used : http://puu.sh/kUDZP.jpg
Is speed related to tenacity?
Also mania would be awkward with there being a large range of different key-modes and whatnot
Some people are extreme at 4k, some people can actually play 10k.
Also mania would be awkward with there being a large range of different key-modes and whatnot
Some people are extreme at 4k, some people can actually play 10k.
http://osuskills.tk/user/[Yui_Hirasawa][Yui Hirasawa] wrote:
Why my username not found ?
You need to use "_" instead space.
Love this! Keep up the good work please
Kinda, kinda not. Tenacity is the ability to maintain rhythm in a stream, and the 2 factors are time between notes and the length of the stream. This is not to be confused with stamina however. You can still have high tenacity for a very, very long, low bpm stream.Pope Gadget wrote:
Is speed related to tenacity?.
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So far that skills I came up for mania with are:dionzz99 wrote:
mania has accuracy , stamina , reading , speed as the main part..
- Stamina - Dependent on max number of notes on some colum at a certain time. If one column has a bunch of 1/8ths and others don't, then it's high stamina.
Dexterity - Finger Independence. Dependent on number of keys and may be nerfed depending how the hold notes are arranged. Not sure about DP keymode though (10k+). If there is a better word for this, please tell.
Reading - Number of notes on all columns, but it's a bit more complicated than that. Dense stairs are easy to read, yet broken streams are one of the hardest things to read.
- Accuracy - may or may not be a separate thing though. Accuracy is essentially the combination of how well you do on all other things. For instance if you get a 100, then all other results are surely to go down as well. This would be more of a stat rather than a skill, imo.
Speed - is isn't this related to stamina?
For precision it doesn't look into replay data, so it's impossible to figure that out right now. If you need to be pixel perfect to catch the fruits, then that would require high precision. Agility can also be put into precision since it's like a stat in this case. If your agility is low, then your precision will be low since you can't move to the fruit in time to be precise.lidahapi wrote:
Reading: since ctb has AR, reading should be implemented
Agility: how perfect the timing when players dash to get another fruit, or when the player moves
Precision: how stable the fruit catches. Is it at the middle (most precised), or at the edges (less precised) (need help for this point, is this point as accuracy or precision) rip english? ;w;
Accuracy: Overall accuracy
Memory: Flashlight Performance
Instinct: Hidden Performance (Perhaps this should be implemented too, on std, taiko and mania?)
CtB has no accuracy, it's only precision (elaborate on this if you think I'm wrong).
Hidden performance deals with AR and time you have to react. Unless Kert decides to separate reaction based reading from density based reading, I'll consider them as one.
lmaoabraker wrote:
Speed - isn't this related to stamina?
Speed is more about how fast you're able to play, in relation to hand-eye coordination and being able to move your fingers fast enough to transition to the next notes, regardless of if you're able to withhold that speed for a decent period.
Burst patterns require intense speed and precision to hit well, but doesn't test stamina. Speedcore 300, for example.
Hmmm ... bursts is not the best example you could give, but I see what you mean. Bursts look more closely related to reading. I choke on some bursts more due to the inability to read them rather than not being able to press fast enough. And if I am able to read them, it's more closely related to accuracy and even possibly to stamina if there was a stamina heavy part just before that.Pope Gadget wrote:
lmaoabraker wrote:
Speed - isn't this related to stamina?
Speed is more about how fast you're able to play, in relation to hand-eye coordination and being able to move your fingers fast enough to transition to the next notes, regardless of if you're able to withhold that speed for a decent period.
Burst patterns require intense speed and precision to hit well, but doesn't test stamina. Speedcore 300, for example.
If I was to isolate this, it would be something along the line of hitting a single 1/16 jack. In this case only frequency matters and not time, whereas stamina is dependent on the frequency and time it lasts. A map that has 1/16 jacks on 2 columns repeating every 1/2 is not likely to be picked up by stamina, but would be picked up by speed. This map would be an excellent example. Correct me if I misunderstood.
Also there is another skill or a factor for other skills I am trying to figure out, but can't really form a solid idea of. An example would be a jack in midst of a bunch of chords like the 1/4 pairs here, transitioning from pattern to pattern such as from 1|4, 2|3, 1|4 pattern to 1|2, 3|4, 1|2 pattern. Anything that would generally break the flow would be an example. I would throw those under reaction based reading or speed, but I'm getting a feeling that's not the full story.
stamina:
- jesus1412: Nekokanimaru - Ojamajo de BAN BAN! (Pop-mix) (Muya) [Another] +DT (86.32%) UNAVAILABLE
tenacity:
- jesus1412: Nekokanimaru - Ojamajo de BAN BAN! (Pop-mix) (Muya) [Another] +DT (86.32%) UNAVAILABLE
agility:
precision:
HazzardFreak: Drop - Granat [Irre's Extra] +HDHR (97.53%)
Adamqs: Xyloe! - Joke (Maeglwn) [Irre's Extra] +HDHR (98.48%)
Kosyl: Xyloe! - Joke (Maeglwn) [Irre's Extra] +HDHR (97.47%)
- Rafis: SoundTeMP - Dreamer's Dream (P A N) [PRESSURE] +HDDT (99.71%)
"CtB has no accuracy, it's only precision (elaborate on this if you think I'm wrong)."
If accuracy refers to rhythmic accuracy when tapping, then you're right
I think i have figured out about precision.
While i say that precision is about how stable the fruit catches, it might seem refer to how stable when facing some hypers. (The key for Precision is Stability and Agility is Timing)
By checking the Error and Unstable rate, Precision should be figured out. However i'm thinking that Error itself should be counted as agility. the range is from minus to plus milliseconds value. the closer to 0ms the value is, the better.
and the lower the unstable rate, the better the precision will get
If precision is related to agility, then Error and Unstable rate will count (But i'm not sure about this yet)
Sorry if you think it's ambiguous, but i still need help ;w;
If accuracy refers to rhythmic accuracy when tapping, then you're right
I think i have figured out about precision.
While i say that precision is about how stable the fruit catches, it might seem refer to how stable when facing some hypers. (The key for Precision is Stability and Agility is Timing)
By checking the Error and Unstable rate, Precision should be figured out. However i'm thinking that Error itself should be counted as agility. the range is from minus to plus milliseconds value. the closer to 0ms the value is, the better.
and the lower the unstable rate, the better the precision will get
If precision is related to agility, then Error and Unstable rate will count (But i'm not sure about this yet)
Sorry if you think it's ambiguous, but i still need help ;w;
For mania:
While most people can't play 7k very well and can play 4k very well, they should be separated for various keys. While various keycount maps like 8k is ranked, it's possible to separate them
PS: This is a suggestion for mania
Hello there!
Small feedback from me, checked it and looks promissing. Nice job guys!
I found small problem with tag "Precision". I am owner of 99% acc FC of Irreversible CS7 maps but there are not taken into consideration in your script (point wise). If you ask me:
1. Spica is extremly easy to play with HDHRDT if you are used to OD9 (it's OD10 tho but there is nothing particulary hard in this map in matter of patterns)
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055&m=0 Irre Extra takes way more effort to FC with high acc than for example https://osu.ppy.sh/b/253595 - can you explain how it's counted?
3. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/297350 is almost full long slider based map, i dont find it fitting into precision category.
When i find time, i will make more research and maybe play highly pointed maps again to find if they -- in my personal opinion -- fits categories.
Yet, thanks guys for this site, as someone who mainly focus on aim and acc, it showed good score: Aim > Precision > Acc.
Keep up good work, it looks very promissing.
Cheers!
Small feedback from me, checked it and looks promissing. Nice job guys!
I found small problem with tag "Precision". I am owner of 99% acc FC of Irreversible CS7 maps but there are not taken into consideration in your script (point wise). If you ask me:
1. Spica is extremly easy to play with HDHRDT if you are used to OD9 (it's OD10 tho but there is nothing particulary hard in this map in matter of patterns)
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055&m=0 Irre Extra takes way more effort to FC with high acc than for example https://osu.ppy.sh/b/253595 - can you explain how it's counted?
3. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/297350 is almost full long slider based map, i dont find it fitting into precision category.
When i find time, i will make more research and maybe play highly pointed maps again to find if they -- in my personal opinion -- fits categories.
Yet, thanks guys for this site, as someone who mainly focus on aim and acc, it showed good score: Aim > Precision > Acc.
Keep up good work, it looks very promissing.
Cheers!
Nice work, the website looks interesting oO
But i found some error. It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -". The website means, that this user doesn´t exist o:
But i found some error. It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -". The website means, that this user doesn´t exist o:
Don't know what you mean by that. Works fine for me. Try here.5522Luca wrote:
It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -".
For mania:I honestly have no idea. I have a feeling most would vote to separate, put let me see by how much more players agree with it: Go here and vote.
While most people can't play 7k very well and can play 4k very well, they should be separated for various keys. While various keycount maps like 8k is ranked, it's possible to separate them
Ok, with the URL it works.jimihenrik wrote:
Don't know what you mean by that. Works fine for me. Try here.5522Luca wrote:
It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -".
I also tried now other names.
Thats some kind of confusing :/
It seems as though once your profile is generated, it doesn't get updated. I generated my profile this morning, and got a new score some hours later that overrides one of my top 100 scores, yet it still uses the old score even now.
SPOILEROld Score
New Score
New Score
are you sure Accuracy is correctly accounting for od11? I don't think Rafis' pressure score is less accurate than some of his ar11 scores...
btw, I love the precision stat. it tends to show cool scores on old maps
btw, I love the precision stat. it tends to show cool scores on old maps
Topic Starter
Thanks for the feedback![Taiga] wrote:
1. Spica is extremly easy to play with HDHRDT if you are used to OD9 (it's OD10 tho but there is nothing particulary hard in this map in matter of patterns)
OD? Precision (ability to hit small circles) takes CS and Agility difficulty of the map into account. OD influences Accuracy instead
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055&m=0 Irre Extra takes way more effort to FC with high acc than for example https://osu.ppy.sh/b/253595 - can you explain how it's counted?
My guess is your score didn't reach top100 in the map and your top PP. There is no good way to retrieve all scores currently
3. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/297350 is almost full long slider based map, i dont find it fitting into precision category.
You're probably thinking about OD here
Be a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~Whip wrote:
Can i get a cool title just for asking?
Autoupdating and refresh buttons will be added in the next release.sonicyellow wrote:
It seems as though once your profile is generated, it doesn't get updated. I generated my profile this morning, and got a new score some hours later that overrides one of my top 100 scores, yet it still uses the old score even now.
AR11? AR doesn't influence Accuracy skillFranc[e]sco wrote:
are you sure Accuracy is correctly accounting for od11? I don't think Rafis' pressure score is less accurate than some of his ar11 scores...
His top Accuracy score is exactly that one on pressure map
Kert, eventually you're going to have to find a way to access all of a player's recorded scores. For example, I have more than 3300 ranked scores on my account, and I know that I am able to retrieve all of the scores (replays are another matter) just by redownloading the maps that I have scores on. Since those scores are even saved in the first place, it follows that they all must be retrievable from some database somewhere.
Topic Starter
There is a way but I doubt peppy wants me to spam the servers with ~37k osu!api requests for each user.Minhtam wrote:
Kert, eventually you're going to have to find a way to access all of a player's recorded scores. For example, I have more than 3300 ranked scores on my account, and I know that I am able to retrieve all of the scores (replays are another matter) just by redownloading the maps that I have scores on. Since those scores are even saved in the first place, it follows that they all must be retrievable from some database somewhere.
I'd really love this to support all scores too of course
Kert wrote:
There is a way but I doubt peppy wants me to spam the servers with ~37k osu!api requests for each user.Minhtam wrote:
Kert, eventually you're going to have to find a way to access all of a player's recorded scores. For example, I have more than 3300 ranked scores on my account, and I know that I am able to retrieve all of the scores (replays are another matter) just by redownloading the maps that I have scores on. Since those scores are even saved in the first place, it follows that they all must be retrievable from some database somewhere.
I'd really love this to support all scores too of course
is there a way to catch all scores submitted from someone who already created a profile on the site? ie, if i already looked up myself on osuskill, you could create a bot to monitor me and all the scores i submit, might require the bot to have a few things though. namely 1. adding everyone who creates a profile (maybe ask peppy to increase the limit on the bots account? no clue if he'd do it) 2. have every map so you can check friend rankings? (does friend rankings go past top 50? idk tbh lol)
just an idea, i could be completely off.
Can i Select for my osu skill in a determined mode? (std, mania, taiko and ctb)
Kert wrote:
Be a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~
Do I need to say anything?
Topic Starter
I am not sure what you're trying to saytfg50 wrote:
Kert wrote:
Be a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~
Do I need to say anything?
In your case you'd get a title for having Accuracy as your main speciality
But titles are not implemented yet
That feeling like playing a rpg.
It this just for standard mode only?
It this just for standard mode only?
man, is this gonna be the next osu!tp? I'm so excited to see what comes next in this project!
True, I was just being dumb =P. I'm really looking forward to seeing how you guys implement reading.
I can't understand tenacity though, judging by (the first on) my list it seems like spaced long streams give tenacity. Is the spacing really considered? Maybe acc, considering that it is a od9 map. I don't think this should give ANY "tenacity" at all, there's only 1 stream on the whole map https://osu.ppy.sh/b/41646 .
Also, how do you separate singletap/slow streams? I know that I play some patterns alternating even though most singletap players would simply singletap through it so I'm curious.
I can't understand tenacity though, judging by (the first on) my list it seems like spaced long streams give tenacity. Is the spacing really considered? Maybe acc, considering that it is a od9 map. I don't think this should give ANY "tenacity" at all, there's only 1 stream on the whole map https://osu.ppy.sh/b/41646 .
Also, how do you separate singletap/slow streams? I know that I play some patterns alternating even though most singletap players would simply singletap through it so I'm curious.
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I'd love to see a leader board for each stat or the top plays in each stat. Just a suggestion
This made me laugh
cool little tool. I'm looking forward to seeing the memory section, since that might be the only thing I'm decent at in this game
cool little tool. I'm looking forward to seeing the memory section, since that might be the only thing I'm decent at in this game
no no I meant od11 (od10+dt), which is pretty common in ar11 plays. I think accuracy should scale a little more exponentially towards od11, cause pressure is "only" OD10.3, and getting 98.5 or higher on a OD11 map is more impressive accuracy-wiseKert wrote:
Thanks for the feedback![Taiga] wrote:
1. Spica is extremly easy to play with HDHRDT if you are used to OD9 (it's OD10 tho but there is nothing particulary hard in this map in matter of patterns)
OD? Precision (ability to hit small circles) takes CS and Agility difficulty of the map into account. OD influences Accuracy instead
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055&m=0 Irre Extra takes way more effort to FC with high acc than for example https://osu.ppy.sh/b/253595 - can you explain how it's counted?
My guess is your score didn't reach top100 in the map and your top PP. There is no good way to retrieve all scores currently
3. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/297350 is almost full long slider based map, i dont find it fitting into precision category.
You're probably thinking about OD hereBe a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~Whip wrote:
Can i get a cool title just for asking?Autoupdating and refresh buttons will be added in the next release.sonicyellow wrote:
It seems as though once your profile is generated, it doesn't get updated. I generated my profile this morning, and got a new score some hours later that overrides one of my top 100 scores, yet it still uses the old score even now.AR11? AR doesn't influence Accuracy skillFranc[e]sco wrote:
are you sure Accuracy is correctly accounting for od11? I don't think Rafis' pressure score is less accurate than some of his ar11 scores...
His top Accuracy score is exactly that one on pressure map
EDIT: lol my bad just realized I typo'd that post, I meant that his Pressure score is LESS accurate than his od11 plays
Based on hidden objects, cluster chaos, time to react, and a couple of other factors. I believe this is the hardest part and might take some time to implement.Default wrote:
Very cool site,looking foward for future uptates.
btw Is reading really going to be implemented? How are you going to calculate it?
I love youabraker wrote:
Based on hidden objects, cluster chaos, time to react, and a couple of other factors. I believe this is the hardest part and might take some time to implement.Default wrote:
Very cool site,looking foward for future uptates.
btw Is reading really going to be implemented? How are you going to calculate it?
Why not set up a deal with peppy to make a mirror server that can draw on those scores?Kert wrote:
There is a way but I doubt peppy wants me to spam the servers with ~37k osu!api requests for each user.Minhtam wrote:
Kert, eventually you're going to have to find a way to access all of a player's recorded scores. For example, I have more than 3300 ranked scores on my account, and I know that I am able to retrieve all of the scores (replays are another matter) just by redownloading the maps that I have scores on. Since those scores are even saved in the first place, it follows that they all must be retrievable from some database somewhere.
I'd really love this to support all scores too of course
as someone said earlier, the site doesnt seem to update scores, i just redid one of my scores (which is my top for accuracy) and it still shows my old acc
I like this, it's very different from the new pp because it shows my skills in detail.
http://osuskills.tk/user/gameon123321/skill/tenacity
The tenacity calculations seem a bit off. I understand some, like chase the light and mendes. But why are arc and try this two of my top tenacity scores? Is it because of the stacked 1/2 beats which calculate as extremely slow streams? Is it because the slow counts in try this are recorded as streams?
Also, on http://osuskills.tk/user/Xilver/skill/tenacity vs http://osuskills.tk/user/HappyStick/skill/tenacity, how is ragnarok on hr less streamy than ragnarok on nomod?
This is very useful, so keep it up!
http://osuskills.tk/user/gameon123321/skill/tenacity
The tenacity calculations seem a bit off. I understand some, like chase the light and mendes. But why are arc and try this two of my top tenacity scores? Is it because of the stacked 1/2 beats which calculate as extremely slow streams? Is it because the slow counts in try this are recorded as streams?
Also, on http://osuskills.tk/user/Xilver/skill/tenacity vs http://osuskills.tk/user/HappyStick/skill/tenacity, how is ragnarok on hr less streamy than ragnarok on nomod?
This is very useful, so keep it up!
I'm still waiting for Memory and Reading skills.
When this supports Taiko call me, I really like this proyect, hope it's useful for the rest of the players
Looks nice
can't wait for it to be complete
can't wait for it to be complete
Does being especially bad also count?Kert wrote:
Be a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~
It's really nice to see with all these different categories what your strenghts are and it's way more comparable than your rank.
I'm 8.4K and my friend is 4.2K haha
I'm really good at being inaccurate huehuehue
I took a quick look at how this works. This is really useful in telling your progress in comparison to your friends, rather than using listed scores, or rank as a way to decide who's better. It makes the game a bit more competitive, I like this idea. Keep up the great work.
IIRC on the osu!tp site you could look up a beatmap with a certain mod combination and it would tell you the difficulty in terms of each stat. If you're already calculating all of this information, I think that would be a useful feature for the site. And maybe even be able to look up maps in your range, like be able to search for a list of maps with a stamina rating between [X] and [Y]. Awesome project!
this is great! one very big improvement would be an individual leader board/ranking for each stat similar to old osutp where players competed in aim/speed/acc points.
Great idea, but I found a bug. I don't know if this has anything to do with the beta version,
but my scores don't update, and I still have my old scores of when I first checked my profile on osu!skills.
If this is normal, feel free to ignore this post.
but my scores don't update, and I still have my old scores of when I first checked my profile on osu!skills.
If this is normal, feel free to ignore this post.
NeoAxel58 wrote:
Great idea, but I found a bug. I don't know if this has anything to do with the beta version,
but my scores don't update, and I still have my old scores of when I first checked my profile on osu!skills.
If this is normal, feel free to ignore this post.
Kert wrote:
Autoupdating and refresh buttons will be added in the next release.
Midnaait wrote:
When this supports Taiko call me, I really like this proyect, hope it's useful for the rest of the players
http://osuskills.tk/user/emperorpenguin83Franc[e]sco wrote:
no no I meant od11 (od10+dt), which is pretty common in ar11 plays. I think accuracy should scale a little more exponentially towards od11, cause pressure is "only" OD10.3, and getting 98.5 or higher on a OD11 map is more impressive accuracy-wise
EDIT: lol my bad just realized I typo'd that post, I meant that his Pressure score is LESS accurate than his od11 plays
OD11 is properly accounted for, in my opinion. Keep in mind that Pressure is a OD10.3 almost SS. That's definitely a better accuracy score than a low 98% on OD11.
Recently checked it out, it's really nice!
Here's something to add, I personally think you should add multiple modes (e.g taiko, osu!mania, ctb).
Compared to std players, some of them don't play std often/not at all, and usually play the other modes.
It would be nice if you could add more modes! I don't play std often and I'm already good enough in Taiko!
GL on osu!skills!
Here's something to add, I personally think you should add multiple modes (e.g taiko, osu!mania, ctb).
Compared to std players, some of them don't play std often/not at all, and usually play the other modes.
It would be nice if you could add more modes! I don't play std often and I'm already good enough in Taiko!
GL on osu!skills!
Topic Starter
Sorry, I missed your post earliergameon123321 wrote:
I like this, it's very different from the new pp because it shows my skills in detail.
http://osuskills.tk/user/gameon123321/skill/tenacity
The tenacity calculations seem a bit off. I understand some, like chase the light and mendes. But why are arc and try this two of my top tenacity scores? Is it because of the stacked 1/2 beats which calculate as extremely slow streams? Is it because the slow counts in try this are recorded as streams?
Also, on http://osuskills.tk/user/Xilver/skill/tenacity vs http://osuskills.tk/user/HappyStick/skill/tenacity, how is ragnarok on hr less streamy than ragnarok on nomod?
This is very useful, so keep it up!
Tenacity for Arc is high for that one long stream (spaced one)
As for Xilver and HappyStick scores - Xilver has less combo. HR doesn't affect tenacity
Kert wrote:
Sorry, I missed your post earliergameon123321 wrote:
I like this, it's very different from the new pp because it shows my skills in detail.
http://osuskills.tk/user/gameon123321/skill/tenacity
The tenacity calculations seem a bit off. I understand some, like chase the light and mendes. But why are arc and try this two of my top tenacity scores? Is it because of the stacked 1/2 beats which calculate as extremely slow streams? Is it because the slow counts in try this are recorded as streams?
Also, on http://osuskills.tk/user/Xilver/skill/tenacity vs http://osuskills.tk/user/HappyStick/skill/tenacity, how is ragnarok on hr less streamy than ragnarok on nomod?
This is very useful, so keep it up!
Tenacity for Arc is high for that one long stream (spaced one)
As for Xilver and HappyStick scores - Xilver has less combo. HR doesn't affect tenacity
Oh, oops -.-
I also missed the stream on Try This...
Thanks for replying!
Amazing! GL on the progress for this,it looks promising already.
'pparently i'm best with my agility.
'pparently i'm best with my agility.
I think I found a bug in my information because my highest score for precision is a 21pp play on Kana Ueda - Pumpkin Ondo. It also shows up under tenacity but isn't there in any of the other categories.
Not that I'm contesting the scores that the map gives but that a 21pp play is nowhere near my top100 as my 100th score is around 120pp.
Not that I'm contesting the scores that the map gives but that a 21pp play is nowhere near my top100 as my 100th score is around 120pp.
Its a great concept, but like pp relies on prior plays.
My Tenacity is rated 420, but I think thats only going on outdated info.
I don't know how good 420 is, but I know there's no way I could hit that today.
Pretty cool system though, useful.
My Tenacity is rated 420, but I think thats only going on outdated info.
I don't know how good 420 is, but I know there's no way I could hit that today.
Pretty cool system though, useful.
it's pretty dankImperf3kt wrote:
I don't know how good 420 is,
Topic Starter
Updater updatie update!
- Added Top 100 scores and Top PP scores autoupdates.
Global updates happen weekly and scores from Top PP lists update twice a day (at max)
- You can also see how much you've improved since your previous osu!Skills user update
- Added flags, an osu!Skills site logo, loading animations
- Added Recently checked section
- Added short skill descriptions to some pages
- Fixed some calculator bugs
- Fixed problems for usernames with spaces
If anything looks broken try clearing cache and/or refreshing the page with Ctrl-F5
- Added Top 100 scores and Top PP scores autoupdates.
Global updates happen weekly and scores from Top PP lists update twice a day (at max)
- You can also see how much you've improved since your previous osu!Skills user update
- Added flags, an osu!Skills site logo, loading animations
- Added Recently checked section
- Added short skill descriptions to some pages
- Fixed some calculator bugs
- Fixed problems for usernames with spaces
If anything looks broken try clearing cache and/or refreshing the page with Ctrl-F5
Before this forum gets flooded by bug reports the following is known:
- Long bars (900+) go to the next line in VS
There are visible bullets in the recently checked section
Last user's avatar gets cut off in the recently checked section if there is a VS search in the list
Topic Starter
Have you tried refreshing the page? (ctrl-f5)
I think the calculation is a bit wrong (especially with Tenacity) but I like the idea, nice work !
I really actually like this! It's quite fun to check yourself out and see where you stand in terms of your own skill and to improve yourself in different aspects. It's really cool actually
We need Osu!Mania skill D:
^ thisHamzalopode wrote:
We need Osu!Mania skill D:
i think some players have discussed them, but it seems it still need to be discussed (inb4 for taiko mode hasn't been discussed yet)
p/4609373
p/4609373
damn found HazzardFreak has 1050 points on precision on granat irre's extra hdhr (we definitlly need a chart to see who has the best in 1 stat and who has most overall)
Waiting for that CTB mode lol
It's fun to see what I excel at and what is my week point and this allows me to do that.
Hey. I'm having trouble with my results because it says that my username was incorrect.
try use underscore for space?