Krah wrote:

Stop bringing your issues here.

If you think you have been spoiled and want to know the reason for what a player isn't allowed to play, he is free, as stated again and again, to send a mail to tournaments@ppy.sh

- yogurt - wrote:

Japan looks so weak compared to previous years I honestly think they'll place 5th-8th.

Xilver, Natalia, Axarious, Ritzeh, Seouless, 0120, Zodiaack, [Toy]

- yogurt - wrote:

Japan looks so weak compared to previous years I honestly think they'll place 5th-8th.

Xayne wrote:

That's a pretty scary roster. Probably the best one the USA has made out of any year so far. Such a shame SG picked this year to hang it up.

Neko Sanae wrote:

I think that would be too much for them.
Roro Rosset, Super Arrow, and two 3k players? wtf?

Tbh Polish team is so stacked I don't see us not winning the whole thing. Our year boys.

KevEz wrote:

Dont forget Mexico guys

- yogurt - wrote:

Xayne wrote:

That's a pretty scary roster. Probably the best one the USA has made out of any year so far. Such a shame SG picked this year to hang it up.

Where is kablaze though?

CXu wrote:

Oh yeah.

Maybe this has already been addressed since I don't follow the spectator client at all, but it would be nice if we could get rid of those ugly yellow names that covers up parts of the gameplay, and integrate player names into the actual design itself. Those names really feel out of place in an otherwise pretty nice looking design. Misses can be indicated by a red box or something around the player's square or something.

CXu wrote:

Oh yeah.

Maybe this has already been addressed since I don't follow the spectator client at all, but it would be nice if we could get rid of those ugly yellow names that covers up parts of the gameplay, and integrate player names into the actual design itself. Those names really feel out of place in an otherwise pretty nice looking design. Misses can be indicated by a red box or something around the player's square or something.

Krah wrote:

Krah wrote:

Stop bringing your issues here.

If you think you have been spoiled and want to know the reason for what a player isn't allowed to play, he is free, as stated again and again, to send a mail to tournaments@ppy.sh

Gonna quote it because some couldn't read.

Krah wrote:

Krah wrote:

Stop bringing your issues here.

If you think you have been spoiled and want to know the reason for what a player isn't allowed to play, he is free, as stated again and again, to send a mail to tournaments@ppy.sh

Gonna quote it because some couldn't read.

Cleaned the thread a bit. Don't force me to do it again or silences will surely come with it.


People Lie

w4ts wrote:

where is rrtyui !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

1 Month supporter for 3rd place never forget OWC 2013

Loctav wrote:

We are planning with one mappool for both weeks.

Rori Vidi Veni wrote:

IMO team USA may not even be top seed depending on Austria's team. There are many teams people overlook like Taiwan, UK, Germany and South Korea. Heck, I'd say even the current Japanese roster looks more promising than US'.

Xayne wrote:

Rori Vidi Veni wrote:

IMO team USA may not even be top seed depending on Austria's team. There are many teams people overlook like Taiwan, UK, Germany and South Korea. Heck, I'd say even the current Japanese roster looks more promising than US'.

Taiwan is strong, but I'd say the US has a better roster than any of the other countries you mentioned. Japan is more than likely going to be mediocre. At the very bare minimum, the US has the 4th best roster so far. Outside of Poland and Taiwan, you'd be hard pressed to find a better 4 than Axarious, Xilver, Kitteh, and Toy in my opinion.

Xayne wrote:

Rori Vidi Veni wrote:

IMO team USA may not even be top seed depending on Austria's team. There are many teams people overlook like Taiwan, UK, Germany and South Korea. Heck, I'd say even the current Japanese roster looks more promising than US'.

Taiwan is strong, but I'd say the US has a better roster than any of the other countries you mentioned. Japan is more than likely going to be mediocre. At the very bare minimum, the US has the 4th best roster so far. Outside of Poland and Taiwan, you'd be hard pressed to find a better 4 than Axarious, Xilver, Kitteh, and Toy in my opinion.

NixXSkate wrote:

Xayne wrote:

Taiwan is strong, but I'd say the US has a better roster than any of the other countries you mentioned. Japan is more than likely going to be mediocre. At the very bare minimum, the US has the 4th best roster so far. Outside of Poland and Taiwan, you'd be hard pressed to find a better 4 than Axarious, Xilver, Kitteh, and Toy in my opinion.

Is Toy actually going to be able to play though? Also, don't forget Ritzeh, he's very consistent and did great in the NAT.

a loli wrote:

bring out the owc avatars

Meowt3dCheeze wrote:

No love for the two teams from Down Under We will wreck NA like how they wrecked their economy :^)

Gigo wrote:

Several observations I'd like to make:

1. The Netherlands has as close to an optimal roster as they can get. We can expect a strong performance from them.

2. Argentina's team is (in my opinion) going to be hurt by the absence of players such as Glazbom and Salvage.

3. Taiwan's team should, under no circumstances, be scoffed at. Some people said they won't be able to compete with Poland and the US in this OWC... I'm gonna call bullshit on that one! They have their Holy Trinity (Rucker, SnowWhite and Small K) and their other players are extremely experienced as well.

There are 8 teams, whose rosters have not been revealed yet, but Austria's team should also be really strong (provided we don't see any surprise absence from it).

I still don't think this tournament will be as good as OWC 2013 (of which I have very fond memories), but I am hoping for some tough competition and great matches.

Gigo wrote:

Yeah, in that next post, try to explain why you put Germany above China and Taiwan, cuz I'm really curious.

They have given easy wins to Ukraine and Brazil in past OWCs, while teams like Germany, Korea and Japan wouldn't have done that.

Gigo wrote:

Roster is the same as previous years? Do you mind checking what Taiwan's roster was when they lost that match to Ukraine? They were missing all of their key players! You really can't give that match as an example of how they (supposedly) underperform in tournaments.

Minhtam wrote:

Gigo wrote:

Roster is the same as previous years? Do you mind checking what Taiwan's roster was when they lost that match to Ukraine? They were missing all of their key players! You really can't give that match as an example of how they (supposedly) underperform in tournaments.

I think that was his point - they were missing all their key players in the first place.

People tend to overlook the fact that a team is only as strong as the players that show up on that weekend. A team that is unable to commit to competing each and every single week will not have the consistency to keep up with teams that do. After all, how can you be consistent gameplay wise if you're not consistent attendance wise?

Alpha_00 wrote:

Minhtam wrote:

I think that was his point - they were missing all their key players in the first place.

People tend to overlook the fact that a team is only as strong as the players that show up on that weekend. A team that is unable to commit to competing each and every single week will not have the consistency to keep up with teams that do. After all, how can you be consistent gameplay wise if you're not consistent attendance wise?

I think that having your key players missing on account of them being banned due to policy infractions is a bit different than your key players missing because they can't be asked to show up. And I'm not sure how accurate of a metric an owc from 2 or 3 years ago would be, considering the rate of improvement that's been occurring.

Gigo wrote:

Do you mind checking what Taiwan's roster was when they lost that match to Ukraine? They were missing all of their key players!

Blue Dragon wrote:

Gigo wrote:

Yeah, in that next post, try to explain why you put Germany above China and Taiwan, cuz I'm really curious.

Basically: China has a lot of all-around players, but no particular strength. If you have a team that will perfectly play a single mod while being also good at another one, they can overplay them with no issues.
Taiwan should be S-Tier, but the fact that they tilt in almost every OWC to date is really a factor. They have given easy wins to Ukraine and Brazil in past OWCs, while teams like Germany, Korea and Japan wouldn't have done that. Past may not be a factor, but the roster is almost the exact same as the other years. They're great players, but they don't seem to be able to perform as well in tournaments.

Aka wrote:

we will beat em all this year as well, dw :^)
that just gave me some motivation, anyway. thank you

You do realize Germany almost has a completely different (and less skilled) roster right?

Xayne wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

Basically: China has a lot of all-around players, but no particular strength. If you have a team that will perfectly play a single mod while being also good at another one, they can overplay them with no issues.
Taiwan should be S-Tier, but the fact that they tilt in almost every OWC to date is really a factor. They have given easy wins to Ukraine and Brazil in past OWCs, while teams like Germany, Korea and Japan wouldn't have done that. Past may not be a factor, but the roster is almost the exact same as the other years. They're great players, but they don't seem to be able to perform as well in tournaments.

You do realize Germany almost has a completely different (and less skilled) roster right?

Blue Dragon wrote:

if by "less skilled" you mean that Germany is the only team in the entire tournament with their 8 players being in the top 200 worldwide, then yes, they are less skilled.

Gigo wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

if by "less skilled" you mean that Germany is the only team in the entire tournament with their 8 players being in the top 200 worldwide, then yes, they are less skilled.

1. One of their players is rank 250.

2. Rank and skill are two different things (which is something we all should know extremely well by now).

Blue Dragon wrote:

... and it's just a prediction.

Athrun wrote:

P.S. I want my banner to cheer for Hong Kong

Gigo wrote:

Athrun wrote:

P.S. I want my banner to cheer for Hong Kong

Wait... what?! You're not gonna cheer for Australia?

sables48 wrote:

I also support Hong Kong and my friend -N a n a k o-

Athrun wrote:

Hong Kong is where I was born, so I'll cheer for Hong Kong.

VnSoul wrote:

You do realize Germany almost has a completely different (and less skilled) roster right?

Thats quite a bold statement. I would claim that thier roster this year is at at least as strong as last year. Germany's roster last year was pretty much very strong in NoMod/DT , but kinda weak what it came to HR/HD. The roster this year looks a lot more balanced and I somehow have a feeling that they are even stronger this year, but its all up to the performance/consistency of the new players

Gigo wrote:

Athrun wrote:

Hong Kong is where I was born, so I'll cheer for Hong Kong.

Oh ok, my bad.

Minhtam wrote:

I just want a country to win the osu! World Cup for the first time ever. i.e. anybody but South Korea and Japan.

Fortunately, judging by the makeup of their teams, it looks like most of the top South Korea and Japan players have this "been there, done that" attitude and are allowing some other top players a chance to play. We'll see if that comes back to haunt them.

Elscar wrote:

sure tom is a really weak HD player... he only fc'd the tiebreaker with HD against us last year (#2 score back then)

Elscar wrote:

sure tom is a really weak HD player... he only fc'd the tiebreaker with HD against us last year (#2 score back then)

Aoiyuuki- wrote:

I made a Google Sheets based on the roster of this year's OWC along with their ranking, right here: OWC 2015 Roster by PP

Aoiyuuki- wrote:

I made a Google Sheets based on the roster of this year's OWC along with their ranking, right here: OWC 2015 Roster by PP
I'll add more clarification on to it later and maybe improvement on it.

Edit: Based on this Google Sheets from last year: OWC 2014 Roster by PP Rankings

Gigo wrote:

Aoiyuuki- wrote:

I made a Google Sheets based on the roster of this year's OWC along with their ranking, right here: OWC 2015 Roster by PP
I'll add more clarification on to it later and maybe improvement on it.

Edit: Based on this Google Sheets from last year: OWC 2014 Roster by PP Rankings

Good job.

Greece and Ukraine with higher average ranking than Japan. FailFish

CXu wrote:

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