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I'll try to make a test app by using existing top50 scores or something like that.Sync wrote:
Interesting concept. Is it usable or testable yet?
It should be available next week I hope.
gl on this! If its done well it can become quite usefull for me and others as well. 
Cool concept! Quick question, do the graphs scale in proportionate to the player's rank? For example, what if I were to FC a stream map that is only regarded as 5.1 stars while my friend streams a map that is regarded as 6.4 stars. If we were to both have 99%~ish accuracy and a full combo, would we both have (I'm just putting in a random number here) 700 tenacity/stamina or will he have a higher score since it was a harder map?
Topic Starter
Really depends on the streams. For longer/faster streams you get a higher score.
In your example if he'd had misses his score could be lower than yours (obviously)
Meanwhile we're getting a website soon~~~
In your example if he'd had misses his score could be lower than yours (obviously)
Meanwhile we're getting a website soon~~~
Really interested in seeing what your system thinks about different players skill sets. Keep it up!
Nice i want to test it
very nice concept, let's see for future
If it will be executed correctly, would be really nice and I hope we can see it someday, thanks for sharing~! 
Topic Starter
And here's our first release!
http://osuskills.tk
I also updated the main post, don't forget to check it out~
http://osuskills.tk
I also updated the main post, don't forget to check it out~
Классно сделали, жду доработки :^)
So it will calculate if you reach top 50?
Он только обновит мой результат если я попадут в топ 50?
Он только обновит мой результат если я попадут в топ 50?
No it uses your top 50 scores.Nelly wrote:
So it will calculate if you reach top 50?
wow I can't read
Interesting, perhaps add a "compare two users" function?
Topic Starter
That's totally not a bad idea hehe
Interesting concept, there is room for improvement but its fun to look at all these things.
Btw, you might wanna fix this top map cause im pretty sure its a bug of some sort, and i fear if there is one like this, theres probs more...
Keep it up!
Btw, you might wanna fix this top map cause im pretty sure its a bug of some sort, and i fear if there is one like this, theres probs more...
Keep it up!
This looks really nice, do you also have any plans to include more game modes in the future?
So, it calculates only maps where I'm in top 50?
Apparently since you can't just poop out correct values without API info from the plays which is limited to top 50.Sieg wrote:
So, it calculates only maps where I'm in top 50?
It only seems to have calculated my very old top 50 scores but not newer ones. Bug or are the scores still being processed?
This is a nice concept, but why aren't you using /api/get_user_best from peppy's api?
It can get a player's top 100 best plays which, imo, is a much better indication of skill than top 50 scores.
It can get a player's top 100 best plays which, imo, is a much better indication of skill than top 50 scores.
Topic Starter
Currently we're using a bit dated Top 50 scores database, that is why. I'll make an updater soonMulttari wrote:
It only seems to have calculated my very old top 50 scores but not newer ones. Bug or are the scores still being processed?
Because this is not based on PP at allSmc wrote:
This is a nice concept, but why aren't you using /api/get_user_best from peppy's api?
It can get a player's top 100 best plays which, imo, is a much better indication of skill than top 50 scores.
I'll think about adding these results there too though
same here. hope it will have other game modesIamBaum wrote:
This looks really nice, do you also have any plans to include more game modes in the future?
>.tk
Good stuff you got goin but... how accurate can this be?
Good stuff you got goin but... how accurate can this be?
how think about CTB?
im ctb user
pls call me if you want advice haha
i waiting ctb OwO
im ctb user
pls call me if you want advice haha
i waiting ctb OwO
how about change interface?
A... pentagon... line... color... *&%#
i think that... this interface seems more appropriatede
i like 224's idea for interface.
Support!224dj wrote:
how about change interface?
A... pentagon... line... color... *&%#
i think that... this interface seems more appropriatede
having a space in your name generates an error and _ must be used.
edit: im not sure if it occurs only on first time loading of the username, but there was an error screen that showed up when i typed in my name with a space the first time.
It's working fine now with a space in it.
edit: im not sure if it occurs only on first time loading of the username, but there was an error screen that showed up when i typed in my name with a space the first time.
It's working fine now with a space in it.
I think this is a stupid idea. This kind of graphic approach only makes sense if you can assume correlations between neighbored skills and exclude the existence of correlations for non-neighbored skills.224dj wrote:
A... pentagon... line... color... *&%#
i think that... this interface seems more appropriatede
This isn't some Pokemon-game where you can artificially push the stat for your Pokemon's coolness and where it doesn't matter that neighboring stats don't have a correlation.
And if we don't want to assume easy correlations like this we should either make it more simple or more complicated than this.
Oh no, abraker is on this *runs*
I work behind the scenes, advising Kert so that everything makes sense as well as fix bugs here and there. It's up to Kert's final decision to use my ideas or not.Endaris wrote:
Oh no, abraker is on this *runs*
Well, it seems like Agility is about every top ranked player's best skill... Not sure what i expected.
Rucker is better than Hvick in every attribute but aim.
Well, gee. Either you need to change up some of your variables or I am the most imbalanced player in the game.
Topic Starter
Don't worry, this will be tweaked appropriately
Can we include people that are not in the top 50?
For some reason this is what mine looks like...
For some reason this is what mine looks like...
Get goodThe Gambler wrote:
Can we include people that are not in the top 50?
For some reason this is what mine looks like...
It's about Top50 scores on a map, not about top50 players. Seemingly you never got on a scoreboard. http://osustats.ppy.sh/
Topic Starter
Top 100 scores are supported now!
Nice.
The Accuracy stuff looks really weird though.
I figured out:
The number provided when clicking on the detailed overview for your accuracy-rating is the maximum amount of points assigned to the map. This number seems to cap at 795 for OD10.
There is some sort of weightage for the scores as my final points are lower than my best result(I know it cause SS).
A maximum of 100 maps is shown in the detailed overview.
OD has a heavy influence on Accuracy points(Up to ~20% increase) while vision-impairing mods (HDFL) both don't.
Qualified maps aren't included in the search.
Actual pattern difficulty isn't as important for the assigned number compared to OD:
OD -- maximum number assigned
OD10 795
OD9.8 750(?)
OD8.4 720(?)
OD8 712(?)
OD7 685(?)
Actual pattern difficulty doesn't even matter(X-Encounter is confirmed to be sub-770).
The Accuracy stuff looks really weird though.
I figured out:
The number provided when clicking on the detailed overview for your accuracy-rating is the maximum amount of points assigned to the map. This number seems to cap at 795 for OD10.
There is some sort of weightage for the scores as my final points are lower than my best result(I know it cause SS).
A maximum of 100 maps is shown in the detailed overview.
OD has a heavy influence on Accuracy points(Up to ~20% increase) while vision-impairing mods (HDFL) both don't.
Qualified maps aren't included in the search.
Actual pattern difficulty isn't as important for the assigned number compared to OD:
OD -- maximum number assigned
OD10 795
OD9.8 750(?)
OD8.4 720(?)
OD8 712(?)
OD7 685(?)
Actual pattern difficulty doesn't even matter(X-Encounter is confirmed to be sub-770).
Can we get formal definitions on what these mean?
I can't make out anything of how these are calculated when I have the same scores for each attribute.
While this isn't supposed to be based on PP I'd like to point out that pp is far more accurate than looking at a select top map rankings (because not everyone has top map rankings, and certain maps are far harder to get top rankings than others just by popularity rather than actual difficulty).
edit:
and also...
I can't make out anything of how these are calculated when I have the same scores for each attribute.
While this isn't supposed to be based on PP I'd like to point out that pp is far more accurate than looking at a select top map rankings (because not everyone has top map rankings, and certain maps are far harder to get top rankings than others just by popularity rather than actual difficulty).
edit:
and also...
Ahhhhh this is looking pretty good so far :3c itll be good to use after the OWC is through though :>
Topic Starter
Check main pageProph Nobster wrote:
Can we get formal definitions on what these mean?
Not at the momentIOException wrote:
Is this open source?
Will you add the 3 others modes (Even if for them, it would be different)?
does it take some time update top 100 rank info?
i don't have any top rank record.
so i made some with latest ranked maps, but if i search my nickname, i see 'no scores in top 100'.
i don't have any top rank record.
so i made some with latest ranked maps, but if i search my nickname, i see 'no scores in top 100'.
Topic Starter
I am not proficient at other mods at all. Can't promise anythingRemyria wrote:
Will you add the 3 others modes (Even if for them, it would be different)?
It's not automated yet. Please, wait for the next update to comeZisa wrote:
does it take some time update top 100 rank info?
i don't have any top rank record.
so i made some with latest ranked maps, but if i search my nickname, i see 'no scores in top 100'.
Kert wrote:
Remyria wrote:
Will you add the 3 others modes (Even if for them, it would be different)?
I am not proficient at other mods at all. Can't promise anything
Even if you aren't proficient in the other mods, couldn't you discuss it with people who are?
Topic Starter
Everyone can suggest stuff here in this threadProfessor Prinny wrote:
Even if you aren't proficient in the other mods, couldn't you discuss it with people who are?
Based on what I wrote in my earlier post I suggest the following:
Right now it looks like you're checking OD first and rhythmical complexity after(if at all). Worst case would be if you just check amount of circles vs. amount of sliders.
In my opinion you should try and figure out some difficulty for rhythmic patterns and factor in speed and OD based on how difficult the pattern actually is.
This would fix the issue of rhythmically very easy maps with high OD(esp Easy and Normaldiffs with DTHR) being overweight in terms of accuracy while it would push actually difficult maps up as the OD would be worth more.
Right now it looks like you're checking OD first and rhythmical complexity after(if at all). Worst case would be if you just check amount of circles vs. amount of sliders.
In my opinion you should try and figure out some difficulty for rhythmic patterns and factor in speed and OD based on how difficult the pattern actually is.
This would fix the issue of rhythmically very easy maps with high OD(esp Easy and Normaldiffs with DTHR) being overweight in terms of accuracy while it would push actually difficult maps up as the OD would be worth more.
Topic Starter
Don't worry we're updating accuracy hopefully at the end of this weekEndaris wrote:
Based on what I wrote in my earlier post I suggest the following:
Right now it looks like you're checking OD first and rhythmical complexity after(if at all). Worst case would be if you just check amount of circles vs. amount of sliders.
In my opinion you should try and figure out some difficulty for rhythmic patterns and factor in speed and OD based on how difficult the pattern actually is.
This would fix the issue of rhythmically very easy maps with high OD(esp Easy and Normaldiffs with DTHR) being overweight in terms of accuracy while it would push actually difficult maps up as the OD would be worth more.
Topic Starter
Yes.
Meanwhile we got a new update!
- Added user top PP scores
- Versus mode
- New Accuracy algorithm
- Some scaling tweaks
- Cosmetic changes
Meanwhile we got a new update!
- Added user top PP scores
- Versus mode
- New Accuracy algorithm
- Some scaling tweaks
- Cosmetic changes
You're awesome
Houtarou Oreki wrote:
You're awesome
Already looks way better. Quite a lot to do still.
My precision-rank though:
This should try to include spacing and speed somehow, as Aozora+HR is pretty easy to aim compared to stuff like Saika. As the "ability to hit small circles" is related to Agility there should be some noticeable influence.
My precision-rank though:
SPOILER
Precision
QLOCKS - Aozora (v2b) [x265 Difficulty] +HDHR (99.05%)
452
Hitomi Kuroishi - Over the Sky (Card N'FoRcE) [Hard] +HDHR (96.32%)
445
Hyadain - CRASH!! (Let's do it) (mtmcl) [Burai's Insane] (94.41%)
375
Wada Kouji - Biggest Dreamer (Ekaru) [Kasada's Insane] (94.89%)
363
Chata - Papapapanda (Nymph) [Insane] +HR (98.68%)
361
Koji Kondo - Dragon Roost Island (HolyBoy) [Normal] +HDHR (98.33%)
357
Rabpit - Saika (tsuka) [Expert] (98.7%)
348
Amane - Melt in the sky (Gabi) [Hard] +HR (97.9%)
336
Nightcore - You Got Me Dancing (osuplayer111) [Insane] (96.5%)
327
Kajiura Yuki - The Dreamers (Lissette) [Hard] +HR (97.2%)
316
DJ Satomi - Castles in the Sky (Hikato) [Insane] (98.41%)
313
Masami Ueda - Shinshuu Plains (Card N'FoRcE) [God] (96.66%)
308
Drop - Granat (Kaguya Hourain) [Hard] +HDHR (99%)
299
Enya - Trains And Winter Rains (Blue Dragon) [Hard] (99.49%)
289
QLOCKS - Aozora (v2b) [x265 Difficulty] +HDHR (99.05%)
452
Hitomi Kuroishi - Over the Sky (Card N'FoRcE) [Hard] +HDHR (96.32%)
445
Hyadain - CRASH!! (Let's do it) (mtmcl) [Burai's Insane] (94.41%)
375
Wada Kouji - Biggest Dreamer (Ekaru) [Kasada's Insane] (94.89%)
363
Chata - Papapapanda (Nymph) [Insane] +HR (98.68%)
361
Koji Kondo - Dragon Roost Island (HolyBoy) [Normal] +HDHR (98.33%)
357
Rabpit - Saika (tsuka) [Expert] (98.7%)
348
Amane - Melt in the sky (Gabi) [Hard] +HR (97.9%)
336
Nightcore - You Got Me Dancing (osuplayer111) [Insane] (96.5%)
327
Kajiura Yuki - The Dreamers (Lissette) [Hard] +HR (97.2%)
316
DJ Satomi - Castles in the Sky (Hikato) [Insane] (98.41%)
313
Masami Ueda - Shinshuu Plains (Card N'FoRcE) [God] (96.66%)
308
Drop - Granat (Kaguya Hourain) [Hard] +HDHR (99%)
299
Enya - Trains And Winter Rains (Blue Dragon) [Hard] (99.49%)
289
This should try to include spacing and speed somehow, as Aozora+HR is pretty easy to aim compared to stuff like Saika. As the "ability to hit small circles" is related to Agility there should be some noticeable influence.
Ability to hit small circles should be related to precision, not agility.Endaris wrote:
As the "ability to hit small circles" is related to Agility there should be some noticeable influence.
You can't hit a small circle without moving your cursor using your agility... ?
And if you can, you don't have to move your cursor and it isn't impressive at all if you hit it?
And if you can, you don't have to move your cursor and it isn't impressive at all if you hit it?
If this is developed well it could actually do just that.CelegaS wrote:
Should be ppv3
Topic Starter
Works for me.
Streaming/stamina can need some love too, it looks like deathstreams are correctly identified but that apart it's not looking so good:
This is for Tenacity
daniwellP - Nyanyanyanyanyanyanya! (theowest) [Collab] (97.87%)
326
(one hell of a long stream-map with spaced streams(up to 16 notes?) but no deathstreams)
DJ Genericname - Dear You (Rue) [Dear Rue] (98.32%)
393
Master Blaster - Come Clean (Nightcore Mix) (Asphyxia) [Collab] (97.44%)
390
Ceui - Asphodelus (terametis) [Insane] (99.05%)
382
^ all way easier in terms of streaming
The 15bpm difference to Asphodelus shouldn't matter at all if you look at the density of streams and the spacing.
Streaming/stamina can need some love too, it looks like deathstreams are correctly identified but that apart it's not looking so good:
This is for Tenacity
daniwellP - Nyanyanyanyanyanyanya! (theowest) [Collab] (97.87%)
326
(one hell of a long stream-map with spaced streams(up to 16 notes?) but no deathstreams)
DJ Genericname - Dear You (Rue) [Dear Rue] (98.32%)
393
Master Blaster - Come Clean (Nightcore Mix) (Asphyxia) [Collab] (97.44%)
390
Ceui - Asphodelus (terametis) [Insane] (99.05%)
382
^ all way easier in terms of streaming
The 15bpm difference to Asphodelus shouldn't matter at all if you look at the density of streams and the spacing.
Wait, so osu!Skills counts the players top 100 performances instead of the top 100 scores now?
both, but top 100 scores aren't updated as regularlyMinhtam wrote:
Wait, so osu!Skills counts the players top 100 performances instead of the top 100 scores now?
It needs to be able to count more than that. I have plenty of scores that would have given more than 200 precision (thanks +HR), but they don't count because they fall outside my top 100 plays, hence my low precision rating. If there was a way for osu!Skills to take into account every single recorded score, the program would be absolutely perfect.Endaris wrote:
both, but top 100 scores aren't updated as regularlyMinhtam wrote:
Wait, so osu!Skills counts the players top 100 performances instead of the top 100 scores now?
Are you guys do have some API implementation on the future development?
if you do, please make some wiki or documentation of it like osu! did.
if you do, please make some wiki or documentation of it like osu! did.
And sorry, a little bit some of bug issues. Why does most of the performances on the list taken on normal mode. Can you implement it on mania mode too?
*its cause i'm a mania player.
*its cause i'm a mania player.
woulld be best if you can measure skills for osu!mania too
Dj Spada
Really, I really approved it! 
Good work, and keep it up!
Good work, and keep it up!
very interesting :3
how about for other mode?
how about for other mode?
I havent ranked 100 maps yet, so how does this program calculate my skill?
Topic Starter
We're not considering this currently.-Sandy Corzeta- wrote:
Are you guys do have some API implementation on the future development?
It looks at your scores from here - https://osu.ppy.sh/u/7023372#_leader and recalculates them in osu!Skillsrurumofb wrote:
I havent ranked 100 maps yet, so how does this program calculate my skill?
For anyone wanting other modes (taiko, ctb, maniato be implemented:
Suggest a list of skills for a mode and give precise descriptions. After that we can start implementing new modes too.
Great!
my suggestion for ctb:
Reading: since ctb has AR, reading should be implemented
Agility: how perfect the timing when players dash to get another fruit, or when the player moves
Precision: how stable the fruit catches. Is it at the middle (most precised), or at the edges (less precised) (need help for this point, is this point as accuracy or precision) rip english? ;w;
Accuracy: Overall accuracy
Memory: Flashlight Performance
Instinct: Hidden Performance (Perhaps this should be implemented too, on std, taiko and mania?)
That's all i can tell for ctb, i need help here ;w;
Edit: For precision, due to the limitation on catcher speed, sometimes the fruit couldn't be caught at the center, but it possibly does (although not so center), but requires more agility :3
inb4 this stuff will be featured on next osu weekly ;w;
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;w; why osu api limits to top100 scores only, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww;
my suggestion for ctb:
Reading: since ctb has AR, reading should be implemented
Agility: how perfect the timing when players dash to get another fruit, or when the player moves
Precision: how stable the fruit catches. Is it at the middle (most precised), or at the edges (less precised) (need help for this point, is this point as accuracy or precision) rip english? ;w;
Accuracy: Overall accuracy
Memory: Flashlight Performance
Instinct: Hidden Performance (Perhaps this should be implemented too, on std, taiko and mania?)
That's all i can tell for ctb, i need help here ;w;
Edit: For precision, due to the limitation on catcher speed, sometimes the fruit couldn't be caught at the center, but it possibly does (although not so center), but requires more agility :3
inb4 this stuff will be featured on next osu weekly ;w;
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;w; why osu api limits to top100 scores only, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww;
lidahapi wrote:
Great!
my suggestion for ctb:
Reading: since ctb has AR, reading should be implemented
Agility: how perfect the timing when players dash to get another fruit, or when the player moves
Precision: how stable the fruit catches. Is it at the middle (most precised), or at the edges (less precised) (need help for this point, is this point as accuracy or precision) [spoiler]rip english? ;w;[/spoiler]
Accuracy: Overall accuracy
Memory: Flashlight Performance
Instinct: Hidden Performance (Perhaps this should be implemented on std, taiko and mania?)
That's all i can tell for ctb, i need help here ;w;
[spoiler]inb4 this stuff will be featured on next osu weekly ;w;[/spoiler]
Agility and precision would require replays, what makes it... difficult if not impossible.
mania has accuracy , stamina , reading , speed as the main part..
idk if this term needed at all
- jumpstream : http://puu.sh/kUD9I.png
- jackhammers : http://puu.sh/kUDcL.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDe1.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDgc.png : http://puu.sh/kUDiE.png
- Long Notes : http://puu.sh/kUDeW.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDkA.png
- Chords : http://puu.sh/kUDnC.png ;
- quadstream : http://puu.sh/kUDwu.jpg ; http://puu.sh/kUDxO.png
- Burst : http://puu.sh/kUDEy.png ;
- stairs : http://puu.sh/kUE3j.png (1/4 1/6 and 1/8 also called stairs with the pattern like that)
and some weird things i don't know the term used : http://puu.sh/kUDZP.jpg
- jackhammers : http://puu.sh/kUDcL.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDe1.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDgc.png : http://puu.sh/kUDiE.png
- Long Notes : http://puu.sh/kUDeW.png ; http://puu.sh/kUDkA.png
- Chords : http://puu.sh/kUDnC.png ;
- quadstream : http://puu.sh/kUDwu.jpg ; http://puu.sh/kUDxO.png
- Burst : http://puu.sh/kUDEy.png ;
- stairs : http://puu.sh/kUE3j.png (1/4 1/6 and 1/8 also called stairs with the pattern like that)
and some weird things i don't know the term used : http://puu.sh/kUDZP.jpg
Is speed related to tenacity?
Also mania would be awkward with there being a large range of different key-modes and whatnot
Some people are extreme at 4k, some people can actually play 10k.
Also mania would be awkward with there being a large range of different key-modes and whatnot
Some people are extreme at 4k, some people can actually play 10k.
http://osuskills.tk/user/[Yui_Hirasawa][Yui Hirasawa] wrote:
Why my username not found ?
You need to use "_" instead space.
Love this! Keep up the good work please
Kinda, kinda not. Tenacity is the ability to maintain rhythm in a stream, and the 2 factors are time between notes and the length of the stream. This is not to be confused with stamina however. You can still have high tenacity for a very, very long, low bpm stream.Pope Gadget wrote:
Is speed related to tenacity?.
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So far that skills I came up for mania with are:dionzz99 wrote:
mania has accuracy , stamina , reading , speed as the main part..
- Stamina - Dependent on max number of notes on some colum at a certain time. If one column has a bunch of 1/8ths and others don't, then it's high stamina.
Dexterity - Finger Independence. Dependent on number of keys and may be nerfed depending how the hold notes are arranged. Not sure about DP keymode though (10k+). If there is a better word for this, please tell.
Reading - Number of notes on all columns, but it's a bit more complicated than that. Dense stairs are easy to read, yet broken streams are one of the hardest things to read.
- Accuracy - may or may not be a separate thing though. Accuracy is essentially the combination of how well you do on all other things. For instance if you get a 100, then all other results are surely to go down as well. This would be more of a stat rather than a skill, imo.
Speed - is isn't this related to stamina?
For precision it doesn't look into replay data, so it's impossible to figure that out right now. If you need to be pixel perfect to catch the fruits, then that would require high precision. Agility can also be put into precision since it's like a stat in this case. If your agility is low, then your precision will be low since you can't move to the fruit in time to be precise.lidahapi wrote:
Reading: since ctb has AR, reading should be implemented
Agility: how perfect the timing when players dash to get another fruit, or when the player moves
Precision: how stable the fruit catches. Is it at the middle (most precised), or at the edges (less precised) (need help for this point, is this point as accuracy or precision) rip english? ;w;
Accuracy: Overall accuracy
Memory: Flashlight Performance
Instinct: Hidden Performance (Perhaps this should be implemented too, on std, taiko and mania?)
CtB has no accuracy, it's only precision (elaborate on this if you think I'm wrong).
Hidden performance deals with AR and time you have to react. Unless Kert decides to separate reaction based reading from density based reading, I'll consider them as one.
lmaoabraker wrote:
Speed - isn't this related to stamina?
Speed is more about how fast you're able to play, in relation to hand-eye coordination and being able to move your fingers fast enough to transition to the next notes, regardless of if you're able to withhold that speed for a decent period.
Burst patterns require intense speed and precision to hit well, but doesn't test stamina. Speedcore 300, for example.
Hmmm ... bursts is not the best example you could give, but I see what you mean. Bursts look more closely related to reading. I choke on some bursts more due to the inability to read them rather than not being able to press fast enough. And if I am able to read them, it's more closely related to accuracy and even possibly to stamina if there was a stamina heavy part just before that.Pope Gadget wrote:
lmaoabraker wrote:
Speed - isn't this related to stamina?
Speed is more about how fast you're able to play, in relation to hand-eye coordination and being able to move your fingers fast enough to transition to the next notes, regardless of if you're able to withhold that speed for a decent period.
Burst patterns require intense speed and precision to hit well, but doesn't test stamina. Speedcore 300, for example.
If I was to isolate this, it would be something along the line of hitting a single 1/16 jack. In this case only frequency matters and not time, whereas stamina is dependent on the frequency and time it lasts. A map that has 1/16 jacks on 2 columns repeating every 1/2 is not likely to be picked up by stamina, but would be picked up by speed. This map would be an excellent example. Correct me if I misunderstood.
Also there is another skill or a factor for other skills I am trying to figure out, but can't really form a solid idea of. An example would be a jack in midst of a bunch of chords like the 1/4 pairs here, transitioning from pattern to pattern such as from 1|4, 2|3, 1|4 pattern to 1|2, 3|4, 1|2 pattern. Anything that would generally break the flow would be an example. I would throw those under reaction based reading or speed, but I'm getting a feeling that's not the full story.
stamina:
- jesus1412: Nekokanimaru - Ojamajo de BAN BAN! (Pop-mix) (Muya) [Another] +DT (86.32%) UNAVAILABLE
tenacity:
- jesus1412: Nekokanimaru - Ojamajo de BAN BAN! (Pop-mix) (Muya) [Another] +DT (86.32%) UNAVAILABLE
agility:
precision:
HazzardFreak: Drop - Granat [Irre's Extra] +HDHR (97.53%)
Adamqs: Xyloe! - Joke (Maeglwn) [Irre's Extra] +HDHR (98.48%)
Kosyl: Xyloe! - Joke (Maeglwn) [Irre's Extra] +HDHR (97.47%)
- Rafis: SoundTeMP - Dreamer's Dream (P A N) [PRESSURE] +HDDT (99.71%)
"CtB has no accuracy, it's only precision (elaborate on this if you think I'm wrong)."
If accuracy refers to rhythmic accuracy when tapping, then you're right
I think i have figured out about precision.
While i say that precision is about how stable the fruit catches, it might seem refer to how stable when facing some hypers. (The key for Precision is Stability and Agility is Timing)
By checking the Error and Unstable rate, Precision should be figured out. However i'm thinking that Error itself should be counted as agility. the range is from minus to plus milliseconds value. the closer to 0ms the value is, the better.
and the lower the unstable rate, the better the precision will get
If precision is related to agility, then Error and Unstable rate will count (But i'm not sure about this yet)
Sorry if you think it's ambiguous, but i still need help ;w;
If accuracy refers to rhythmic accuracy when tapping, then you're right
I think i have figured out about precision.
While i say that precision is about how stable the fruit catches, it might seem refer to how stable when facing some hypers. (The key for Precision is Stability and Agility is Timing)
By checking the Error and Unstable rate, Precision should be figured out. However i'm thinking that Error itself should be counted as agility. the range is from minus to plus milliseconds value. the closer to 0ms the value is, the better.
and the lower the unstable rate, the better the precision will get
If precision is related to agility, then Error and Unstable rate will count (But i'm not sure about this yet)
Sorry if you think it's ambiguous, but i still need help ;w;
For mania:
While most people can't play 7k very well and can play 4k very well, they should be separated for various keys. While various keycount maps like 8k is ranked, it's possible to separate them
PS: This is a suggestion for mania
Hello there!
Small feedback from me, checked it and looks promissing. Nice job guys!
I found small problem with tag "Precision". I am owner of 99% acc FC of Irreversible CS7 maps but there are not taken into consideration in your script (point wise). If you ask me:
1. Spica is extremly easy to play with HDHRDT if you are used to OD9 (it's OD10 tho but there is nothing particulary hard in this map in matter of patterns)
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055&m=0 Irre Extra takes way more effort to FC with high acc than for example https://osu.ppy.sh/b/253595 - can you explain how it's counted?
3. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/297350 is almost full long slider based map, i dont find it fitting into precision category.
When i find time, i will make more research and maybe play highly pointed maps again to find if they -- in my personal opinion -- fits categories.
Yet, thanks guys for this site, as someone who mainly focus on aim and acc, it showed good score: Aim > Precision > Acc.
Keep up good work, it looks very promissing.
Cheers!
Small feedback from me, checked it and looks promissing. Nice job guys!
I found small problem with tag "Precision". I am owner of 99% acc FC of Irreversible CS7 maps but there are not taken into consideration in your script (point wise). If you ask me:
1. Spica is extremly easy to play with HDHRDT if you are used to OD9 (it's OD10 tho but there is nothing particulary hard in this map in matter of patterns)
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055&m=0 Irre Extra takes way more effort to FC with high acc than for example https://osu.ppy.sh/b/253595 - can you explain how it's counted?
3. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/297350 is almost full long slider based map, i dont find it fitting into precision category.
When i find time, i will make more research and maybe play highly pointed maps again to find if they -- in my personal opinion -- fits categories.
Yet, thanks guys for this site, as someone who mainly focus on aim and acc, it showed good score: Aim > Precision > Acc.
Keep up good work, it looks very promissing.
Cheers!
Nice work, the website looks interesting oO
But i found some error. It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -". The website means, that this user doesn´t exist o:
But i found some error. It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -". The website means, that this user doesn´t exist o:
Don't know what you mean by that. Works fine for me. Try here.5522Luca wrote:
It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -".
For mania:I honestly have no idea. I have a feeling most would vote to separate, put let me see by how much more players agree with it: Go here and vote.
While most people can't play 7k very well and can play 4k very well, they should be separated for various keys. While various keycount maps like 8k is ranked, it's possible to separate them
Ok, with the URL it works.jimihenrik wrote:
Don't know what you mean by that. Works fine for me. Try here.5522Luca wrote:
It looks like you can´t input spaced names. As example i tryed to put in "- Hakase -".
I also tried now other names.
Thats some kind of confusing :/
It seems as though once your profile is generated, it doesn't get updated. I generated my profile this morning, and got a new score some hours later that overrides one of my top 100 scores, yet it still uses the old score even now.
SPOILEROld Score
New Score
New Score
are you sure Accuracy is correctly accounting for od11? I don't think Rafis' pressure score is less accurate than some of his ar11 scores...
btw, I love the precision stat. it tends to show cool scores on old maps
btw, I love the precision stat. it tends to show cool scores on old maps
Topic Starter
Thanks for the feedback![Taiga] wrote:
1. Spica is extremly easy to play with HDHRDT if you are used to OD9 (it's OD10 tho but there is nothing particulary hard in this map in matter of patterns)
OD? Precision (ability to hit small circles) takes CS and Agility difficulty of the map into account. OD influences Accuracy instead
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055&m=0 Irre Extra takes way more effort to FC with high acc than for example https://osu.ppy.sh/b/253595 - can you explain how it's counted?
My guess is your score didn't reach top100 in the map and your top PP. There is no good way to retrieve all scores currently
3. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/297350 is almost full long slider based map, i dont find it fitting into precision category.
You're probably thinking about OD here
Be a specialist at some skills and you may receive a cool title, when we add titles~~Whip wrote:
Can i get a cool title just for asking?
Autoupdating and refresh buttons will be added in the next release.sonicyellow wrote:
It seems as though once your profile is generated, it doesn't get updated. I generated my profile this morning, and got a new score some hours later that overrides one of my top 100 scores, yet it still uses the old score even now.
AR11? AR doesn't influence Accuracy skillFranc[e]sco wrote:
are you sure Accuracy is correctly accounting for od11? I don't think Rafis' pressure score is less accurate than some of his ar11 scores...
His top Accuracy score is exactly that one on pressure map
Kert, eventually you're going to have to find a way to access all of a player's recorded scores. For example, I have more than 3300 ranked scores on my account, and I know that I am able to retrieve all of the scores (replays are another matter) just by redownloading the maps that I have scores on. Since those scores are even saved in the first place, it follows that they all must be retrievable from some database somewhere.
Topic Starter
There is a way but I doubt peppy wants me to spam the servers with ~37k osu!api requests for each user.Minhtam wrote:
Kert, eventually you're going to have to find a way to access all of a player's recorded scores. For example, I have more than 3300 ranked scores on my account, and I know that I am able to retrieve all of the scores (replays are another matter) just by redownloading the maps that I have scores on. Since those scores are even saved in the first place, it follows that they all must be retrievable from some database somewhere.
I'd really love this to support all scores too of course