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[Announcement] Taiko Nominator Association (disbanded)

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Bara-
When will this start?
Also, who are the participating BN?
EdamaMe411
ok
CXu

OzzyOzrock wrote:

  1. You show three recent mods of yours on any map you want.
Does this include all mods, or only taiko mods?
Raiden
Logic tells us that they should be taiko mods, but idk lol
JUDYDANNY

CXu wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

  1. You show three recent mods of yours on any map you want.
Does this include all mods, or only taiko mods?
Only Taiko.
OnosakiHito
@Baraatje: This will be announced soon.
@Cxu: Only Taiko mods. If other modes would be included, we couldn't generate mods for Taiko in a sufficient way. I guess you are worried about GDs? The guest differ should slowly learn to find mods by their own anyway.

Edit: lol, three people posted at the same time.
JUDYDANNY

OnosakiHito wrote:

Edit: lol, three people posted at the same time.
www http://puu.sh/jLpte/590109d261.jpg
Nardoxyribonucleic

CXu wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

  1. You show three recent mods of yours on any map you want.
Does this include all mods, or only taiko mods?
Sorry that I didn't explain it in a more detailed way in PM. You may coordinate with the guests and let them have a try when the TNA queue is formally open.

I hope it would be more clear to you now.
Bara-
Nice ninja's
Looking forward to it
Dino99
cool~~
Surono
hope not goned Modding Skill.. or just lazy brain. blah engliz.
Prophecy
love it .

What I have the bad modding skill
Nuolong
What if I need BNs to check a hybrid mapset of STD and Taiko, but I only mod STD (don't know how to mod Taiko)? Does this queue just not work for me then?
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OzzyOzrock

NolanM wrote:

What if I need BNs to check a hybrid mapset of STD and Taiko, but I only mod STD (don't know how to mod Taiko)? Does this queue just not work for me then?
Your GDers need to fulfill the requirements and submit the map.
Bara-
Ozzy, I love how you call them Nolan's GDers, while it's about you (and prophecy)
Raiden
Well but it works like that. The mods required are taikos, no other modes. Either learn to mod taiko, or ask the GDers to mod to get their diffs modded.
Senritsu
Does it mean inactive modders will not get their map ranked unless they modded 3 times?
Topic Starter
OzzyOzrock
Pretty much. Maybe in an apocalyptic future there will be rogue taiko BNs not in the TNA.
Intelli
I think this system is really flawed because if you aren't on for some reason during that one specific time it opens on thursday you have to wait a whole nother week just to get your map checked. BNs should be allowed to look at maps not put through the queue, just maybe a limited amount.
Raiden

IntelliTroodon wrote:

I think this system is really flawed because if you aren't on for some reason during that one specific time it opens on thursday you have to wait a whole nother week just to get your map checked. BNs should be allowed to look at maps not put through the queue, just maybe a limited amount.
Thursdays are the SCHEDULED openings.

It may open on some times beside that. Also, be sure to check it often because you don't know if a map is going to be rejected, in which case a slot is freed and it opens again.
Senritsu
You can't just go saying that this system is flawed for now. I mean it's still new and still trying to adapt on our environment.
And as Raiden said, i saw BNs posting on days beside Thursday so it's not a problem imo
I hope to the best for this new system though~
CXu

IntelliTroodon wrote:

I think this system is really flawed because if you aren't on for some reason during that one specific time it opens on thursday you have to wait a whole nother week just to get your map checked. BNs should be allowed to look at maps not put through the queue, just maybe a limited amount.
Speaking of this, maybe have the scheduled opening at Thursday 00:00 UTC, ending at Thursday 23:59 UTC, and then use a random number generator to determine which 4 maps to pick? Gives everyone a chance to post in every timezone that way.
Raiden

CXu wrote:

Speaking of this, maybe have the scheduled opening at Thursday 00:00 UTC, ending at Thursday 23:59 UTC, and then use a random number generator to determine which 4 maps to pick? Gives everyone a chance to post in every timezone that way.
That way it would be flawed as well because no one knows which maps are going to be rejected (unless you have a good amount of knowledge regarding Taiko mapping), and so people might as well spam F5 while they wait if the TNA has rejected any map.

I think it's fine the way it is right now...
Bara-
I kinda think it's fine now
Perhaps do a different time every time you open?
First at 0:00 UTC, the next time on 6:00 UTC etc.
RNG would be painful, as all 4 maps might be bad, causing no good maps to be accepted (as Raiden said)
CXu
it's not like the 4 maps accepted now before closing couldn't be bad as well. They just happen to be the first 4 maps posted.
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OzzyOzrock
That sounds interesting. Adding RNG to this system may be weird, but it's already RNG to try to figure out when we'll open up anyways huh. And yeah, the map quality won't matter considering that as long as they qualify for submission they would have been picked anyways. I don't know though.
OnosakiHito
What is RNG?
Bara-
Random Number Generator
Everyone's biggest enemy in slightly/heavily luck-based games
OnosakiHito
Interesting... let's keep that in mind for now, okay? We would like to see how current system works. After that we could do such refinings. Does this sound good?
Bara-
Oh dear
RNG in Osu
Help
Raiden

OnosakiHito wrote:

Interesting... let's keep that in mind for now, okay? We would like to see how current system works. After that we could do such refinings. Does this sound good?
So far so good. I haven't seen any problem beside one thing that just happens to bug me a bit:



Obviously the red highlight. While it might be a valid reason to "organize the Nominators in a more structured way and ensure that we can fairly split the work among each other", it however cuts away any freedom the BNs have. I suggest revoking this rule completely as it denies the BNs the freedom they should have, while still taking this as an additional or complementary queue instead.
OnosakiHito
All BNs agreed with this condition several times. So only upon BNs direct request this rule can be removed. Not from outside.
There is nothing else I have to add here.
Raiden
Maybe some were just hyped by the situation of the "new system" that was coming along and didn't think about the consequences. I'll leave it to you guys to discuss. Just wanted to share my thoughts on the rule mentioned above.
Bara-
Meh
I also don't really like that
That the BN in this queue are not allowed to take requests anywhere else
This makes only 1-2 Taiko-specific BN allowed
This way, other BN need to take care of taiko maps
Good thing QAT bubble/qualify now, as that means 4 more bubblers :P
Intelli

Raiden wrote:



Obviously the red highlight. While it might be a valid reason to "organize the Nominators in a more structured way and ensure that we can fairly split the work among each other", it however cuts away any freedom the BNs have. I suggest revoking this rule completely as it denies the BNs the freedom they should have, while still taking this as an additional or complementary queue instead.
I said more or less the exact same thing and you said I wasn't right to say that the system was flawed in this way T.T
Raiden
As far as I understood your main complaint was about them not opening other days than Thursdays, so I answered to that.
PatZar
waiting for an invitation :^) jk, good luck, also when? i'm ready to spam my beatmaps.
Nuolong

Raiden wrote:

OnosakiHito wrote:

Interesting... let's keep that in mind for now, okay? We would like to see how current system works. After that we could do such refinings. Does this sound good?
So far so good. I haven't seen any problem beside one thing that just happens to bug me a bit:



Obviously the red highlight. While it might be a valid reason to "organize the Nominators in a more structured way and ensure that we can fairly split the work among each other", it however cuts away any freedom the BNs have. I suggest revoking this rule completely as it denies the BNs the freedom they should have, while still taking this as an additional or complementary queue instead.
I agree, as the participating BNs are only allowed to mod stuff from this queue, I am limited to request mods from the Taiko BNs that are not participants. I'm required to show 3 Taiko mods, but I am an STD modder trying to get a BN took look at the Taiko portion of a hybrid mapset. As answered earlier, I have to get the GDers to mod 3 maps.. something Id rather not make them do (also one GDer is a participant BN in this queue) sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm bad at explaining and just wanted to add my opinion. :3
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OzzyOzrock
You are the owner of the set, you have power over GDers, if they won't look to get the map icon'd then slit their throats.
Bara-
I lol'd
But true, that's probably the biggest complaint one can have against this
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