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[Announcement] Taiko Nominator Association (disbanded)
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hope not goned Modding Skill.. or just lazy brain. blah engliz.
love it .
What I have the bad modding skill
What I have the bad modding skill
What if I need BNs to check a hybrid mapset of STD and Taiko, but I only mod STD (don't know how to mod Taiko)? Does this queue just not work for me then?
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Your GDers need to fulfill the requirements and submit the map.NolanM wrote:
What if I need BNs to check a hybrid mapset of STD and Taiko, but I only mod STD (don't know how to mod Taiko)? Does this queue just not work for me then?
Ozzy, I love how you call them Nolan's GDers, while it's about you (and prophecy)
Well but it works like that. The mods required are taikos, no other modes. Either learn to mod taiko, or ask the GDers to mod to get their diffs modded.
Does it mean inactive modders will not get their map ranked unless they modded 3 times?
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Pretty much. Maybe in an apocalyptic future there will be rogue taiko BNs not in the TNA.
I think this system is really flawed because if you aren't on for some reason during that one specific time it opens on thursday you have to wait a whole nother week just to get your map checked. BNs should be allowed to look at maps not put through the queue, just maybe a limited amount.
Thursdays are the SCHEDULED openings.IntelliTroodon wrote:
I think this system is really flawed because if you aren't on for some reason during that one specific time it opens on thursday you have to wait a whole nother week just to get your map checked. BNs should be allowed to look at maps not put through the queue, just maybe a limited amount.
It may open on some times beside that. Also, be sure to check it often because you don't know if a map is going to be rejected, in which case a slot is freed and it opens again.
You can't just go saying that this system is flawed for now. I mean it's still new and still trying to adapt on our environment.
And as Raiden said, i saw BNs posting on days beside Thursday so it's not a problem imo
I hope to the best for this new system though~
And as Raiden said, i saw BNs posting on days beside Thursday so it's not a problem imo
I hope to the best for this new system though~
Speaking of this, maybe have the scheduled opening at Thursday 00:00 UTC, ending at Thursday 23:59 UTC, and then use a random number generator to determine which 4 maps to pick? Gives everyone a chance to post in every timezone that way.IntelliTroodon wrote:
I think this system is really flawed because if you aren't on for some reason during that one specific time it opens on thursday you have to wait a whole nother week just to get your map checked. BNs should be allowed to look at maps not put through the queue, just maybe a limited amount.
That way it would be flawed as well because no one knows which maps are going to be rejected (unless you have a good amount of knowledge regarding Taiko mapping), and so people might as well spam F5 while they wait if the TNA has rejected any map.CXu wrote:
Speaking of this, maybe have the scheduled opening at Thursday 00:00 UTC, ending at Thursday 23:59 UTC, and then use a random number generator to determine which 4 maps to pick? Gives everyone a chance to post in every timezone that way.
I think it's fine the way it is right now...
I kinda think it's fine now
Perhaps do a different time every time you open?
First at 0:00 UTC, the next time on 6:00 UTC etc.
RNG would be painful, as all 4 maps might be bad, causing no good maps to be accepted (as Raiden said)
Perhaps do a different time every time you open?
First at 0:00 UTC, the next time on 6:00 UTC etc.
RNG would be painful, as all 4 maps might be bad, causing no good maps to be accepted (as Raiden said)
it's not like the 4 maps accepted now before closing couldn't be bad as well. They just happen to be the first 4 maps posted.
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That sounds interesting. Adding RNG to this system may be weird, but it's already RNG to try to figure out when we'll open up anyways huh. And yeah, the map quality won't matter considering that as long as they qualify for submission they would have been picked anyways. I don't know though.
What is RNG?
Random Number Generator
Everyone's biggest enemy in slightly/heavily luck-based games
Everyone's biggest enemy in slightly/heavily luck-based games
Interesting... let's keep that in mind for now, okay? We would like to see how current system works. After that we could do such refinings. Does this sound good?
Oh dear
RNG in Osu
Help
RNG in Osu
Help
So far so good. I haven't seen any problem beside one thing that just happens to bug me a bit:OnosakiHito wrote:
Interesting... let's keep that in mind for now, okay? We would like to see how current system works. After that we could do such refinings. Does this sound good?
Obviously the red highlight. While it might be a valid reason to "organize the Nominators in a more structured way and ensure that we can fairly split the work among each other", it however cuts away any freedom the BNs have. I suggest revoking this rule completely as it denies the BNs the freedom they should have, while still taking this as an additional or complementary queue instead.
All BNs agreed with this condition several times. So only upon BNs direct request this rule can be removed. Not from outside.
There is nothing else I have to add here.
There is nothing else I have to add here.
Maybe some were just hyped by the situation of the "new system" that was coming along and didn't think about the consequences. I'll leave it to you guys to discuss. Just wanted to share my thoughts on the rule mentioned above.
Meh
I also don't really like that
That the BN in this queue are not allowed to take requests anywhere else
This makes only 1-2 Taiko-specific BN allowed
This way, other BN need to take care of taiko maps
Good thing QAT bubble/qualify now, as that means 4 more bubblers
I also don't really like that
That the BN in this queue are not allowed to take requests anywhere else
This makes only 1-2 Taiko-specific BN allowed
This way, other BN need to take care of taiko maps
Good thing QAT bubble/qualify now, as that means 4 more bubblers
I said more or less the exact same thing and you said I wasn't right to say that the system was flawed in this way T.TRaiden wrote:
Obviously the red highlight. While it might be a valid reason to "organize the Nominators in a more structured way and ensure that we can fairly split the work among each other", it however cuts away any freedom the BNs have. I suggest revoking this rule completely as it denies the BNs the freedom they should have, while still taking this as an additional or complementary queue instead.
As far as I understood your main complaint was about them not opening other days than Thursdays, so I answered to that.
I agree, as the participating BNs are only allowed to mod stuff from this queue, I am limited to request mods from the Taiko BNs that are not participants. I'm required to show 3 Taiko mods, but I am an STD modder trying to get a BN took look at the Taiko portion of a hybrid mapset. As answered earlier, I have to get the GDers to mod 3 maps.. something Id rather not make them do (also one GDer is a participant BN in this queue) sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm bad at explaining and just wanted to add my opinion. :3Raiden wrote:
So far so good. I haven't seen any problem beside one thing that just happens to bug me a bit:OnosakiHito wrote:
Interesting... let's keep that in mind for now, okay? We would like to see how current system works. After that we could do such refinings. Does this sound good?
Obviously the red highlight. While it might be a valid reason to "organize the Nominators in a more structured way and ensure that we can fairly split the work among each other", it however cuts away any freedom the BNs have. I suggest revoking this rule completely as it denies the BNs the freedom they should have, while still taking this as an additional or complementary queue instead.
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You are the owner of the set, you have power over GDers, if they won't look to get the map icon'd then slit their throats.
I lol'd
But true, that's probably the biggest complaint one can have against this
But true, that's probably the biggest complaint one can have against this
Okey I hope I won't have to do that to youOzzyOzrock wrote:
You are the owner of the set, you have power over GDers, if they won't look to get the map icon'd then slit their throats.
lol jk, okey I'll try to order the GDers but that's mean ;w;... Prophecy's been afk for a bit ~_~ bc school just started for some people
SPOILER
But dayum Ozzy you really have made a distinguished line from your personal and your professional osu! lifestyles ~_~
Prophecy only needs to do one mod anyway, he's got one 11 and 5 days ago. Alternatively there's also the Special List - he would only need to mod one of those maps too.
I would propose to reduce the number of required mods for hybrid sets, as they are not complete spreads of taiko diffs, usually only muzu and oni. A one mod could be more appropriate, maybe two.
Special list can be used for that. Only one mod.
That can be reasonable
You can only request a mod after you modded a "special" map, if your mapset is a hybrid mapset
Also, Ono, gratz on 6000th post!
You can only request a mod after you modded a "special" map, if your mapset is a hybrid mapset
Also, Ono, gratz on 6000th post!
Ooh, okay, thanks guys~ I'll be sure to try to remember to tell him that!
geebus 6000 such a pretty numberBaraatje123 wrote:
Also, Ono, gratz on 6000th post!
Can we do something about time zones? Because I've noticed that no one from NA/SA can get in because it always opens at weird times. I've been trying since day one and I've never found it before it got closed :/
EDIT: I asked ono about it earlier and he said to try and get the asian mappers that have guest difficulties to put it in the queue, but that really isn't fair to them or a permanent solution
EDIT: I asked ono about it earlier and he said to try and get the asian mappers that have guest difficulties to put it in the queue, but that really isn't fair to them or a permanent solution
Maybe ask Ozzy to open the queue sometimes.
But i agree with Intelli.
We should have an alternative Way.
How about :
NA -> Ozzy
EU -> Gezo / Ono / Nwolf opens (rip NWolf iknow)
AS -> Nardo / Juddy.
This should be fair.
But i agree with Intelli.
We should have an alternative Way.
How about :
NA -> Ozzy
EU -> Gezo / Ono / Nwolf opens (rip NWolf iknow)
AS -> Nardo / Juddy.
This should be fair.
