IchiGUN wrote:

Hello Natsu!

2. And some suggestions
00:02:304 (4) - maybe move start on 00:02:392 and end on white tick 00:02:740 ? nah I'm sure vocals are starting on blue :c
02:23:845 (4) - move on x:256 y:264? looks more symmetric :3 keeped for now, for spacing reasons
03:27:682 (2) - too hight :C status bar overlap its safe with defult skin, so should be fine
04:10:676 (4) - maybe move start on 04:10:764 and end on white tick 04:11:112 ? same as the first suggestion

Yep, that's all...very pretty mapset!
I want to play it with hitsound

Exa wrote:

[Alice]

00:27:333 (2,1) - These 2 are the same, but you treat them very differently. This mostly occurs because you make the player tap on the red tick, resulting in skipping 00:28:205 - this. yeah I'm following vocals, instruments aren't that important for me, when you map you should prioritize the track you choose to map
00:42:857 (1,2,3) - You could easily put some more spacing here. nah its fine, I don't think that I should stress more those beats
00:43:205 (3) - The slider's tail maps nothing. Even the vocals intend on starting on the blue tick. yeah that's why I did add a circle in blue, since circles need a click action, slider tail doesn't
00:52:973 (4,1) - Strong linear movement because of the sharp jump. I suggest using a straight slider here. nah a curvy one looks better to me
00:55:589 - Don't skip that. Unless you can explain why you did it long 1/1 sliders fit better the hold vocal, 1/2 patterns will stress beats that I don't intended to map
00:59:426 - Same here. Even if you kept the last one, I strongly suggest changing this one so the player can tap on 00:59:601 - where a new sound starts. vocals
01:06:926 (5,6,7) - Ctrl+Shift+S that triangle and make it a bit larger instead of rotating it. There is more tension in all of these beats compared to the previous one. nah my current pattern plays better, tested by myself
01:13:205 (5,6) - Don't break the circular flow here, the song does not suggest it. Ctrl+J (6) and replace it. there wasn't any circular flow at first instance, its just a symmetrical pattern, and yes I like how it plays atm
01:15:473 (8) - It would make far more sense if this was Ctr+G'd because it would create a back-and-forth flow that suit perfectly with the vocals. However there is too little spacing after that, so you might want to change that too. current patterns plays perfectly to me and fit my interpretation of the music really nice
01:24:194 (2,3,4,5) - These look... less pretty than what I personally would like them to look. They propose a pretty forceful flow as well. not really in game these are less stressful to play than normal sliders
01:52:799 - Don\t skip that. same explain as 00:55:589
01:57:508 (1) - Remove NC lel. there is a new stanza I don't see a logical reason to remove it
02:00:996 (1) - NC? no, its part of the same music section
02:12:508 (8,9) - You could use a bit more spacing here too. I do tr to keep the same spacing between combos, if you notice is like that in all the diff
02:23:322 (3,4) - A-are you trying to blanket? If yes, then this an imperfect blanket this one isn't noticeable in game
02:27:159 (2,3) - Nazi imperfect blanket. Don't touch this lel. looks fine to me o.o
02:30:996 - Oh wow definitely don't skip that. Mapping the vocals does not really justify skipping that beat. lol even the music suggest to map it as 1/1 slider, notice that the strong hold sound its starting at 02:30:822 - the one that you pointed is just to keep the metronome
02:35:880 (1) - This slider's tail maps nothing. same respond as before case
02:50:357 (3) - Ctrl+G this for broken flow in order to bring out the strong red tick. nah I rarely like to break flow, mainly cuz it plays bad
02:53:496 (1,2) - Imperfect blanket. looks fine to me o.o
02:55:589 (1,3) - Imperfect blanket. this one is a bit off, but is part of a big pattern changing it will make me move too many things
02:55:240 (5,3) - You can avoid that overlap. can't notice ingame just in the editor should be fine
02:58:729 (6) - Ctrl+G that because tension and nice flow. if I do this I'll ruin the flow to 02:59:252 (7,1) -
02:59:950 (4,6) - Imperfect blanket I guess. Don't touch that either. seems fine to me
03:17:043 (1,2) - Imperfect blanket. ^
03:23:496 (1) - Remove NC. different spacing + vocal starting need a NC IMO
03:23:845 (3) - Add NC. is the end of the vocal section that I started with the before one
03:24:368 (1) - Remove NC. new section in the music starts here
03:25:764 (2,2,2) - I would do Ctrl+G individually on them. nah its an intended pattern
03:29:252 (1) - God of beat skipping. following guitar bring a better effect in this part, also doing long sliders is good for a non break map, since players can take a break here
03:34:833 (1) - Poor beats D; Pretty slider though. I don't understand what you call poor beat, if you like to map to the metronome that's ok, but try to understand that some people map to other instrument or vocals as well and there isn't nothing wrong with that, mapping to the guitar at this point is better to me than sticking to the metronome
03:36:403 (1) - Seems like you did Ctrl+G on that after finishing it. Move the anchors around so the slider-body outer lines are not visible on the head's and tail's curves. (Also place a hitcircle in the middle of the turns to know when they are perfectly circular). its a copy of 03:34:833 (1) -
03:43:380 (1,2) - Oh yuch, I personaly dislike these sliders too much. It's like they were are fat with curves, not sexy with with nice curves. sorry I love them too much lol
03:44:775 (1,2,1,2) - Use same DS. cymbal is clearly at 03:44:949 (2) - need different spacing
04:10:415 (3,4) - The vocals actually start on the red tick (check timing fix on general after you apply the mod and you'll see) so the head of (4) map's nothing. keeping this for now, since Im unsure about your timing, but I'll check this with a friend later, since he is good at timing
04:24:019 (1,2) - Imperfect blanket. looks fine to me o.o
04:29:078 (7,8) - Space them out. Don't stop the cursor's movement here. no vocals no movement
04:32:391 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make it a star shape (just move the slider between (2,3)) so the slider's shape makes sense.
04:37:973 (1,2,3,4,5) - Skipped every single major beat here nah I think my circle pattern is better, also I did use too many start patterns already
04:55:764 - Feels really weird not tapping here. vocals > instruments

[General]

- Offset should be 303. I'll check with someone else
- What is the diff's name relation to the song? its Alice theme song
- Pretty diff overall, good luck with ranking

Feb wrote:

hellou o/

from your queue. General stuff later.
very chill map ~

[Alice]
01:13:389 (6,7) - mirror them? sure
01:15:482 (8) - I think I almost missed there because I thought it was CTRL+G. ctrl G will break flow here, personally I think its fine
01:16:005 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I thought this is harder lol, you can buff this surely. XD
01:17:575 (1,2,3,4,5) - wanna make spacing here like in next kiai? nah I like variations
01:23:505 (1,2,3) - felt not quite right, I'd CTRL+G this, maybe. just linear flow :c
01:35:191 (1,2,3,4) - suggestion: how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3537535 for now I prefer to keep my symmetry
01:52:633 (3) - how about curving this as well? will ruin my blanket 01:51:935 (1) -
02:01:354 (1) - NC, maybe. I'll think about this one, keeped for now
02:12:517 (8) - ^ ^
02:24:901 (1,2,3,4) - suggestion: how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3537561 its basically the same as mine
02:43:912 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I expected sth like this before first kiai :^) hehe for variations, firts EZ then increase the diifficulty
03:11:121 (3) - wanna pull this little bit down? still with ds tho. why its not outside playfield
03:46:005 (1) - pull this little bit down. yeah
04:39:552 (1,2,3) - how about this? I quite liked it: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3537647 keeped mine for now

[General]

1. Timing: seems on-point
2. Check AiMod 2 Green lines on same tick. ups
3. Hitsounds: I like em
4. I think the OD felt kinda to hard for this map. AR 9 OD 8 is cmmon this days, also OD 7 - 7.5 is too EZ imo
5. Only one 1/4 slider!

holycrap this was mod was bad.


chill map natsu, gl with ranking.
pew!
thanks

FCL wrote:

M4M from your queue

• [General]

1. double lines, remove pls those lines are ok, since they are used to change the SV
2. suggestion: to do less SV in some moments song. For example, 00:00:308 to 00:32:052 I would have reduced SV I think the sv is ok :c

• [Alice]

1. 00:07:808 (3,4) - stack with the end 4 slider nah it play better like it is
2. 00:28:040 (1,2) - uneven blanket fixed
3. 00:35:714 (3) - this slider is good, for the moment I prefer my current one tbh
4. 00:40:598 (3,2) - stack or not I feel that stacks break flow, so I rarely use them, unless triplets
5. 00:44:959 (7,1) - uneven blanket. hope is better now
6. 00:48:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - Ctrl+H and stack with 00:49:145 (1) , for to avoid overlap with 00:47:401 (5) not noticeable in game
7. 01:05:017 (6,1) - blanket? tryed c:
8. 01:24:203 (2,3,4,5) - may be better be changed to curved sliders. b-but I like them
9. 01:28:040 (3,3,4,5) - need stack didn't understand this one
10. 01:28:912 (2,4) - ^ ^
11. 01:29:174 (4,5) - ^ ^
12. 01:33:621 (3) - uneven blanket. Change next on 1,63x okay
13. 01:34:319 (5) - ^ ^
14. 02:10:075 (3,1,2,3) - stack nah is ok atm
15. 02:11:121 (7,5,6,7) - ^ already stacked
16. 02:45:482 (1,2,3,4,5) - Leave DS permanent, it is not very convenient for the game, imo its just a crescendo should be fine
17. 02:48:273 (1,2,3,4,5) - why these patterns in the shape of a star does not turn a certain angle? idk didn't think about it
18. 02:56:906 (4,2) - stack? spacing will be so big
19. 03:03:447 (2,4) - suggest blanket k
20. 03:05:889 (2,3,5) - stack all tryed
21. 04:00:656 (4,1,2,3) - stack? mmm I dont undertand what u mean with this
22. 04:39:203 (5,1,5) - ^
23. 04:42:865 (5,4) - ^
24. 04:43:127 (8,5) - ^
25. 04:47:924 (4) - uneven blanket. Change next on 1,72x k

it's all. Good luck!

DropTimes wrote:

[Alice]

hello~ M4M

00:56:121 (5) - ctrl+G seems for better flow It will create a weird jump, I prefer to keep it
01:07:109 (6,7) - swap these its fit for vocal gonna keep this for now, I believe leaving a hit on the stanza is better, but if more people point this I'll do a long slider maybe
01:30:133 (4,6) - make perfect stacks yeah
02:26:121 (2) - remove clap from this I prefer to keep my hitsound pattern with those beats tbh
02:26:296 (3) - add clap at this
02:27:691 (3) - *
03:17:924 (1) - this nc really need to? if or not just remove. fixed


03:29:261 (1) - nice slider !
perfect map!! good luck

Bonsai wrote:

Preamble: My hands are currently broken since quite some time and only started to really get into mapping after they broke, meaning I couldn't playtest it and my points on flow might be a bit wrong since I can never be 100% sure what plays well and what doesn't, but I hope it helps anyways ^^
00:02:052 (3,4) - The slider on the 1/4 is kinda unexpected, I had to listen at 50% to finally hear that the vocal is a bit delayed, but on 100% it's almost unnoticeable imo. If you want to let it be as it is I'd at least increase the spacing so they overlap a bit so it's easier to read
(If you decrease spacing here, might as well do with 00:12:865 (1) , just mentioning it, not necessarily) I did reduce the spacing betwee them, still didn't overlap since I like clean mapping LOL, about the second one I did just remove the slider, cuz I didn't feel that it fit my mapping, I did add a whistle at first one to cover the delay, even tho I'm sure the vocal land on blue tick

00:03:273 (6) - I understand offbeat-sliders when they are mapped because the vocals are on the offbeat, but here these are two piano-hits. imo, the song would call for a bit more emphasis on the slidertail and 00:03:796 (2) (<- would've ignored that if it wasn't for the slider), so I'd suggest to ctrl-g 00:03:273 (6,1) chronologically. Same with 00:16:180 (2,3) , it just feels a bit weird : \ Also 01:49:668 (2,3) - well beed doing this during years, I'll explain how it works, I did use a slider at those points mmm how to explain lol, well next vocals after the slider are 1/2 so I have to map them with circles, doing circles as where the sliders are will kinda kill the special meaning of the vocals circles, so yeah that's why I prefer to have different objects for the instruments and vocals, hope you did understand lol, didn't know how to explain this properly haha

00:15:482 (5,1) - The slider got an awkward angle to play, I'd rotate it by around +40° well due to the slider leniency, you don't have to do that movement when playing, keeping it for now, I'll change if more people complain about it

00:18:360 (5) - Why 1/4 here? O.o remove the object, there is a piano sound, actually should be 1/4 and 1/8 beats, but I did just ignore the 1/8 one cuz too hard xD

00:28:563 (2) - Mapping the second note when there is no beat in the music and silencing it - I don't see a reason for that and it confuses a bit. A reverse-1/1-slider would seem to fit, or just replace it with a circle lol cuz the hold sound, will change if someone else complain, even tho I did the same as different parts in the diff

00:43:214 (3,4,1,2) - The flow here is very weird because it stops at (4,1) but then continues in the same direction and the slider also goes in that direction. Since I don't really understand the offbeat-slider anyways I'd ctrl-g (1,2) chronologically there is a vocal in 2

00:44:784 (6) - The first two whistles of this combo are both on the downbeat, making the third one stand out in an awkward way. I know, it's mapped to the vocals, but at first it gives the impression that it's mapped to the downbeats making the third a bit weird. Dunno how to fix it though, I'm not good with hitsounding lol there is a piano at red, idk I'll remove it if someone point it again

00:50:366 (5,6) - Again the angle of the slider breaks the flow a bit, would play and look much better imo gonna break my symmetry haha, also same explain as before one

00:51:935 (1,2) - Kinda high spacing here, 2,39x when similar parts like 00:53:156 (1,2) and 00:54:028 (4,5) are just 1,94x : \ well since is a slider you don't have to move all the way of it to archivie 300, so the spacing lie there, but I'll do something if someone else complain, mainly cuz I don't have a nice idea atm, to make it look nice in other way, I care too much about visuals lol

01:04:319 (1,2,3,4) - Flow is a bit again, maybe move the stack down a bit? did move this 01:04:319 (1,2,3) - up instead, I'm symmetry god

01:07:982 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Maybe unstack one of these since two of them break the flow pretty hard imo well its a cmon pattern that I use sometimes, since is 1/4, you really don't feel it in game

01:13:214 (5,6) - I know it's a pretty pattern but the slider angle is weird for flow again : \ pls I love this hahahaha

01:33:621 (3) - Normally I'd say this is a weird angle again, but it fits very good to the tone-shifting of the vocals or something like that, very nice o.o thanks

Actually quite a lot of these angles again in this part, I guess I'll just stop pointing them out, just when it's combined with very high spacing like in 01:41:819 (4,1) it feels especially weird I guess. And there are some that are veery close to weird like 02:12:517 (8,9) Oh I do change spacing between combos, mainly to bring more emphasis to vocal verses or cymbals like is the case in 01:41:994 - about the sliders, they don't play like they look, since if you notice the approach circle don't let you to break combos even if you don't follow them from start to the end, that's why people always take shortcurts when playing sliders

01:49:668 (2,3) - Again I don't really see the reason for this offbeat-slider, would ctrl-g again to bring click actions only to the vocals here: 01:50:017 (3,4,5) - I have a really strong ¨rules¨ for myself when mapping to vocals lol xD

02:23:854 (4,5) - Piano and bass have a heave emphasis on (4), so I'd ctrl-g again to emphasize it with the slider too make sense the only problem is that the next rhythm will force me to ignore the downbeat at 02:24:028 - so I guess my current rhythm is probably the best choise here

02:35:889 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Again two stacks in a row, dunno about that same as before

03:31:877 - Even though the missing beat is not that loud it doesn't feel good leaving it out imo, maybe reverse-1/2 that one will think about this one, you make me doubt about my slider part haha, but need to get more opinions, even tho slider tick help covering it

03:33:273 - Again leaving out beat, this time this beat is really strong, rhythmically it would seem reaally nice to ctrl-g these two 03:33:098 (3,4) this one is cuz the guitar, I kinda prefer to follow the special sounds rather to the bpm

03:47:575 (2) - This beat really needs more emphasis, maybe turn (2,3) into a slider? nah every vocal need a hit, yeah is my retarded way of mapping lol, I always try to bring hits to every vocal, the tiny jump actually bring emphasis to the cymbal tho

04:10:075 to 04:18:098 - This part still seems mapped too hectic imo, I'd decrease the spacing a bit more, to give some rest to the players in this calm part actually is the same spacing and slider velocity as the first secion, is just cuz the AR9 makes everything seems fast, maybe I'll use 8,5 instead

04:10:424 (3,4) - see very first point ^^ did the same as before

04:42:517 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - This stream is quite long, and I think it would also give more (imo needed) emphasis on 04:43:009 if you turned (1,2,3) into one 1/2-slider pls I love circle streams :c

That's all, I like this map very much

I'll pm you once my map is ready to be modded by you

thanks :3

Riven wrote:

Hi, M4M from your queue.

00:01:877 (2,3) - This flows poorly, the transition from 2 to 3 is harsh considering the pattern before it. Moving 00:02:052 (3) - down seems to play better. (00:02:313 (4,5) - will need some readjustments if you do change 00:02:052 (3) - ) its a lineal pattern, idk why you think it flow poorly, since when playing you just move you cursor in a liner way.
00:12:865 (1) - Piano notes come in here, I suggest you space out those 00:12:691 (5,1) - just like you have done here 00:04:319 (5,1) - I'll think about this, keeped for now, sicne I can't figure how to make this work and keep a cool pattern
00:43:738 (2) - The kick drums come in here, and many sliders along this part end with a very strong beat. I realize that that you are mapping to the vocals mostly, however, I tried changing your slider starts to where the strong beat is, and it feels a lot better to play. It's actually possible with a lot effort you can achieve mapping to the vocals while starting the sliders on the strong beats. No, you can't map both vocals and drums, well basically yes, but that will end in you mapping alot of random, 1/2 circles that will make the game play confused, also I love map to vocals that's why I do mapping xD, so yeah basically I prefer to keep this like it is, and yes not changing them under any case, cuz it will break my mapping logic orz
00:46:877 (3) - I'm just pointing out the sliders that end on a strong beat so you don't have to look for them if you decide to change it.
00:47:575 (6) - This.
00:47:924 (7) - This.
00:53:156 (1) - This.
00:53:505 (2) - This.
01:19:668 (5) - The movement the player has to make from (5) to (6) is actually very steep, since the slidertail is so small, almost no one will follow that slider to the end, and it might cause some sliderbreaks or 100s. yeah, you don't need to end the sliders to the end to do a 300 hit, if you actually test the map you will notice that there is no way to break combo or hit 100 there, that's how sliders works
01:32:401 (3) - I am personally fine with this kind of slider, but it could cause some confusion among players because of its movement, especially if you're playing it for the first time. shape is really clear, I don't know what you find confused about this
02:54:203 (3) - Some of your sliders in the kiai time also end in strong beats. It's very few though, you could keep it. I did explain those in previous mod
02:56:296 (4) - Likewise. cause of vocals
03:34:842 (1) - Because the slider is very short, it could confuse and make movement harsh. Unlike 03:36:412 (1) - this. This is fine. both are fine, already did use them in other maps, even in a normal diff, also already test them by myself and I personally don't find issue with it
03:43:912 (2) - Please do change this. why?

The rest is fine, I didn't find anything else to point out.

sorry for deny alot, but actually the slider shapes are all fine, there are any issue with them orz, and slider ending on drums is on purpose, since I'm basically mapping only to the vocals like I do in all my maps, changing one will mean changing everything in the map (remap)
Good luck with ranking!

Leader wrote:

Hello

[Alice]

1. You should try finding a new diff name, maybe looking for an adjective/noun that ressembles or describes the character would be better than using the name of the character itself mmm ya tbh I feel it weird as well, I did change to something else
2. 00:02:052 (3,4) - I'd reduce the spacing between these two sliders in order to make the 1/4 distance more clear for everyone, it comes a bit too sudden as it is now ya other people did point this as well, did overlap them a bit
3. 00:39:203 (7) - It's technically fine, but the clap on the slider's tail sounds a bit too loud for my ears... did reduce volume a bit
4. 01:04:668 (4,5) - The whole pattern would play definitely better if you don't stack these two notes. As it is now, the stack actually ruins the nice flow that these two triplets produce fixed
5. 01:06:412 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - By looking at the whole map, I would totally stack this kind of pattern in order to make the map look more structured and cleaner (there are a few others, don't forget to fix them as well if you are going to accept my suggestion) yeah, but still want to keep this, since those rotate triangles do a kind of fun movement when playing, keeping this one for now
6. 01:24:203 (2,3,4,5) - Althought the pattern plays totally fine, I'd prefer to see simple curved sliders, would flow and look better as the song is calm and paced ya you are the second person who told me this, so I did them curved instead
7. 01:36:935 (2) - This could be better if the slider is inclined by 90° compared to the previous one sure
8. 02:23:156 (2) - How about moving this a bit up? Better flow there k
9. 02:32:575 (4,5) - Same as 01:04:668 (4,5) - yup
10. 03:53:331 (5) - Aw man, this slider looks a bit too crumpled ah I did move and add some control point hope is better now
11. 04:10:424 (3,4) - You could also fix these as I pointed out in the first suggestion ya
12. 04:25:249 (1,2,3,4) - Such a lazy pattern, it could be emphasized much better as the voice is going to be shriller... mmm keeped for now, I think its fine, but if I think in a better pattern I'll do for sure
13. 04:44:087 (4) - Not so relevant, but that's not perfectly stacked to the stream! done
14. 04:50:889 (2) - I wouldn't incline this, just a simple mirrored version of the previous slider would be better I'll keep this too, I think is kind of funny when playing

Really impressed by this map, awesome flow and fun to play too, good luck!