18:53 Nyquill: Hello, are you busy right now?
18:53 Tari: oh
18:54 Tari: yeah , I need to go soon, I won't be back till 1 hour :<
18:54 Nyquill: alright then, poke me when you're back
18:54 Nyquill: I'm about ready to rank your map, just need to touch up on some minor things
18:56 Tari: you'll be here still when I'm back correct?
18:56 Nyquill: most likely
18:56 Nyquill: unless a meteor falls on me
18:56 Tari: 2012 never happened
18:56 Tari: so your safe
18:56 Tari: lol
18:56 Nyquill: probably
18:56 Nyquill: or at least I hope
20:04 Tari: mkay
20:04 Tari: 1 sec
20:05 Tari: okqy
20:05 Tari: okay*
20:05 Nyquill: okay
20:06 Nyquill: one second
20:07 Nyquill: I changed when your title appears to the first break, is that okay?
20:08 Tari: yeah ~
20:08 Tari: You should also change the color of the text in the break too
20:08 Nyquill: I did
20:09 Tari: oh
20:09 Tari: Can you I see?
20:09 Nyquill: yes
20:09 Tari: Can I see*
20:09 Tari: bleh
20:09 *Nyquill is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/210164 nao - Kirihirake! Gracie*Star (Short Ver.) [Sinful Stars]]
20:09 Nyquill: wait, do you want a different colour?
20:10 Nyquill: you can see the new colour by playing the map
20:10 Tari: I trust you can come up with a nice color o3o
20:10 Nyquill: well its just fitting
20:10 Nyquill: for the video right now
20:10 Nyquill: haha
20:11 Tari: well
20:11 Nyquill: if you want different colours I can change that
20:11 Nyquill: I just changed it to something general until I could contact you
20:11 Tari: as long as it doesn't blend in too much with the video I'm fine with any color
20:12 Nyquill: it stands out perfectly fine with both bg and video
20:12 Nyquill: okay, a couple of things
20:12 Tari: yup its fine with me
20:14 Nyquill: open up hard
20:15 Nyquill: 00:16:051 (1) - This is the only time in the entire map where you used this 1/1 stack, I'd strongly suggest just spacing this out normally
20:16 Nyquill: because as it is its very inconsistent, and isn't even teaching the player any sort of pattern that might be useful for the rest of the map
20:16 Tari: I can do that , but its pretty readable
20:16 Nyquill: Well, its just for the sake of consistency
20:16 Nyquill: not really readability
20:16 Nyquill: anyone can read 1/1 stacks, but is it always fun to?
20:17 Nyquill: for the record I love 1/1 stacks, its just that if you're going to only ever use it once in a map it loses any sort of meaning it might carry
20:17 Nyquill: might as well not have it
20:17 Tari: ahh , It will require me to change the whole combo
20:20 Nyquill:
http://puu.sh/2H9CY.jpg perhaps something like this? preserves distance snap and keeps the original slider in place
20:21 Nyquill: I mean the (1) slider
20:21 Tari: oh no
20:21 Nyquill: so it leads into the next combo without having to change the next combo
20:21 Tari: I did something different
20:21 Nyquill: whatever works for you
20:21 Tari: I like circle mouse movement
20:21 Nyquill: I do too
20:22 Nyquill: good practice to use in hards as well
20:22 Nyquill: keeps things easy
20:24 Tari: I have one more thing to ask you in hard
20:24 Nyquill: go ahead
20:25 Tari: In hard, I'm not so sure about this slider 01:23:972 (4) -
20:25 Tari: I feel it misses so many beats xD
20:26 Nyquill: ah
20:26 Nyquill: you mean the hitsounds
20:26 Tari: yeah
20:26 Tari: but it follows vocals fine
20:26 Nyquill: I honestly think thats perfectly fine
20:26 Nyquill: no one's going to go after you for a missing hitsound
20:27 Nyquill: maybe I would have once upon a time haha
20:27 Tari: yeah , I wanted to do tick rate 2
20:27 Tari: but
20:27 Tari: it would be much too extreme , at least for the insane diff
20:27 Nyquill: well
20:28 Nyquill: damn puush is down
20:29 Nyquill: oh wait no its just laggy
20:29 Nyquill: a nice compromise would be to remove a repeat and do something like
http://puu.sh/2H9TY.jpg20:29 Nyquill: but yeah a rhythm like that would keep your hitsounds
20:29 Nyquill: and follow the vocals at the same time
20:29 Tari: well , usually when I map
20:30 Tari: hitsounds fit everytime
20:30 Nyquill: yup
20:30 Tari: I don't intend to make hitsounds fit rhythm
20:30 Tari: I just map it and then do hitsounds
20:30 Nyquill: honestly I've never done that in my life haha
20:30 Nyquill: but I think I'm the odd one out rather than you
20:31 Tari: oh yeah , please double check the changes I made lol
20:31 Tari: just in case I missed something
20:31 Nyquill: Of course I will
20:31 Nyquill: its what I'm supposed to do
20:31 Nyquill: haha
20:32 Nyquill: (or I get backlash for it orz)
20:33 Tari: and
20:33 Tari: this slider too 01:13:523 (5) -
20:33 Tari: It follows vocals really well
20:33 Tari: but misses clap in-between slider
20:33 Nyquill: yeah
20:34 Nyquill: do you want to change it?
20:34 Tari: yeah
20:34 Tari: if its fine to change it
20:34 Nyquill: then I think the rhythm of the combo you just linked should be
http://puu.sh/2Ha4r.txt20:35 Nyquill: to follow the vocals while keeping hitsounds
20:35 Nyquill: crap
20:35 Nyquill: bad puush
20:35 Nyquill:
http://puu.sh/2Ha5l.txt20:35 Nyquill: ...
20:35 Nyquill:
http://puu.sh/2Ha6b.jpg20:35 Nyquill: I like how broken puush is right now
20:36 Tari: I did it like this
20:36 Tari:
http://puu.sh/2Ha6U.jpg20:36 Tari: I want note 6 to hit the vocal point
20:36 Nyquill: well 1/2 spam works too
20:36 Tari: well
20:36 Tari: I think thats the best fix , unless I change the previous notes
20:37 Nyquill: alright
20:37 Tari: oh yeah I need that puush link for this slider : 01:23:972 (4) -
20:38 Tari: whatever you came up with
20:38 Nyquill: For that slider
20:38 Nyquill: you can remove the repeat and add a note and another 1/1
20:38 Nyquill:
http://puu.sh/2Haav.jpg20:38 Nyquill: disregard the pattern, just look at the timeline
20:41 Nyquill: also, you didn't change that 1/1 stack yet
20:41 Tari: didn't update
20:41 Nyquill: oh
20:41 Nyquill: osu told me there was an update
20:41 *Nyquill slaps osu
20:42 Tari: still trying to make it work
20:42 Tari: I might need to change the whole pattern in this combo 01:23:129 (1) -
20:42 Tari: LOL
20:43 Nyquill: thats the thing about completely distance snapping hards
20:43 Nyquill: rofl
20:43 Tari: ORZ
20:47 Tari: k
20:47 Tari: hopefully this works
20:47 Tari: here some images
20:47 Tari:
http://puu.sh/2HasV.jpg20:47 Tari:
http://puu.sh/2Hatj.jpg20:48 Nyquill: that works
20:49 Tari: oh and
20:49 Tari: 01:17:062 (5) -
20:49 Tari: Clap should be there?
20:49 Tari: honestly there was no sound
20:49 Nyquill: yes
20:49 Tari: but just curious what you think
20:49 Nyquill: I think there is a clap there
20:49 Nyquill: I hear the snare there
20:49 Nyquill: the percussion track has a snare there
20:50 Nyquill: also, any particular reason why 01:17:399 (6) - can't be snapped?
20:50 Nyquill:
http://puu.sh/2Hazf.jpg20:51 Tari: oh yeah
20:51 Tari: all notes should be snapped
20:51 Tari: but
20:51 Tari: there that taiko error
20:51 Tari: where snap leads to missing taiko tick
20:51 Tari: whatevers its called
20:51 Tari: unless its that idk
20:52 Nyquill: I mean distance snapped
20:52 Tari: but snapped anyway
20:52 Tari: oh
20:52 Tari: sorry , I didn't quite understand
20:52 Nyquill: haha
20:53 Nyquill: 01:26:332 (2) - also I think you meant to bump it up one grid to get this stacked
20:53 Nyquill: /nazi
20:53 Nyquill: /shame
20:53 Tari: its fine actually
20:53 Tari: 1.02x spacing for both
20:54 Tari: Prev and Next
20:54 Tari: if I move it up the prev will be 1.01
20:54 Nyquill: are you talking about 01:17:062 (5,6) - 1.02x spacing?
20:55 Nyquill: because I see 1.13
20:55 Nyquill: oh you meant the other one
20:55 Tari:
http://puu.sh/2HaI6.jpg20:55 Tari: ?
20:55 Tari: o.O
20:55 Nyquill: I'm talking about the previous
20:55 Nyquill: 01:17:062 (5,6) -
20:55 Nyquill: but anyways, .01 isn't going to madde
20:55 Nyquill: matter*
20:56 Nyquill: then again, 1 grid isn't either
20:56 Tari: what , I am confused
20:56 Nyquill: confused about?
20:56 Tari: you linked me to 01:26:332 (2) -
20:56 Tari: and said that was spacing issue
20:56 Tari: then change items o.o
20:56 Nyquill: no, I didn't say that was a spacing issue
20:57 Nyquill: its just not stacked
20:57 Nyquill: not stacked with 01:25:152 (6) -
20:57 Nyquill: but it doesn't matter
20:57 Tari: oh
20:58 Nyquill: anyways
20:58 Nyquill: are you done with all the changes in hard?
20:59 Tari: yeah
20:59 Nyquill: just one completely opinionated suggestion in insane then
20:59 Tari: wait let me update just in case lol
20:59 Nyquill: alright
21:01 Tari: k
21:01 Tari: ready
21:01 Nyquill: so the last note in insane, 01:35:770 (1) - I feel that the placement of this should be made more snappy as opposed to just repeating the same back and forth movement to finish off
21:01 Nyquill: so the last note in insane, 01:35:770 (1) - I feel that the placement of this should be made more snappy as opposed to just repeating the same back and forth movement to finish off
21:01 Nyquill: one sec let me show you what I mean
21:02 Nyquill:
http://puu.sh/2HaVJ.jpg21:02 Nyquill: completely my opinion, because it feels cool if you finish off with a very snappy jump
21:02 Tari: uh
21:03 Nyquill: because at the end of the map, your cursor is still going to be moving from the last note because of the snap
21:03 Nyquill: so it feels awesome d(o_o)b
21:03 Nyquill: just my opinion haha
21:03 Nyquill: anyways, if you don't want to do that its up to you
21:04 Tari: I don't know that cursor movement is suppose to be reflective
21:04 Tari: like in hard
21:04 Tari: but I'd like to keep it
21:04 Nyquill: osu is a very organic game, promoting freedom of movement to keep the game interesting
21:05 Nyquill: but if thats how you feel, then I wont stop you
21:05 Nyquill: its just my opinioni
21:05 Nyquill: opinion*
21:05 Tari: and UWS isn't on right now
21:05 Tari: :<
21:05 Nyquill: sadly
21:06 Nyquill: I half feel like UWS would agree
21:06 Nyquill: but maybe not
21:07 Tari: hmm
21:07 Tari: give me one sec to think about this
21:07 Nyquill: do you know when UWS would get on?
21:07 Tari: uh
21:07 Tari: not really
21:08 Tari: she's not online in-game ,
21:10 Nyquill: do you want to wait for her opinion?
21:10 Tari: I don't know
21:10 Nyquill: haha its okay
21:10 Tari: cause
21:10 Tari: this map would of been ranked , but there was missing video in her diff
21:10 Tari: so yeah
21:11 Tari: its kinda both of us to blame for that
21:11 Nyquill: well thats on the ranking side
21:11 Nyquill: but theres always things to be done to improve the map
21:11 Nyquill: if you really don't want to wait anymore, then I'll rank it right here right now
21:12 Tari: hmm
21:12 Tari: I've decided
21:12 Tari: to keep it
21:12 Nyquill: your call~
21:13 Tari: WAIT
21:13 Nyquill: hahaha
21:13 Nyquill: really if you don't want to wait anymore then its fine, its just a map
21:13 Nyquill: you're sure to get many more ranked
21:13 Nyquill: but if you really want to make your map the best it can be
21:13 Nyquill: who knows? maybe UWS wouldn't even agree with me
21:14 Nyquill: and this would be a waste of time
21:14 Tari: well
21:14 Tari: says she's online in site
21:15 Tari: so give me one sec lol
21:15 Nyquill: alright
21:15 Tari: I like to take in everyone consideration
21:17 Tari: honestly , do you strongly agree that should be changed
21:18 Nyquill: Well
21:18 Nyquill: I think it makes the ending very memorable
21:18 Nyquill: but its not necessary
21:18 Nyquill: if she gets on though, I would also like to ask her to change some stacks as a favor to HDHR players orz
21:18 Nyquill: haha
21:20 Tari: yeah , It would have been much better if UWS was on
21:21 Nyquill: her map is actually extrmely fun on HDHR
21:21 Nyquill: and many HDHR players will appreciate it greatly
21:21 Nyquill: trust me when I say that the most prevalent scores on this diff will be HDHR scores
21:24 Tari: now
21:24 Tari: you can check to UWS
21:24 Tari: talk to UWS*
21:24 Tari: I need to relog , don't mind me