i'm sorry but i laughedbonbori wrote:
people who could potentially become the next ruruchi
i'm sorry but i laughedbonbori wrote:
people who could potentially become the next ruruchi
Play a map with HR that has comfortable bpm for reading(would be3* ~150-180).ShadyAngel wrote:
So many posts, and I'm sitting here being confused about whether or not a skrub like me should put the HR glasses on.
Khelly wrote:
You say people will back away from it and go back to nomod - but I'm not entirely sure. I've seen many a time here new players decide to keep playing 5/6* maps and consider that their skill level and then never want to back down from playing them - and their top ranks are C's on hards for a general example.
Do you think playing things like that and continuing to do so when you're vastly not ready will lead to significant improvement? What's to keep someone from playing 3* Dt and not being able to go higher because they never atopped and went back? Or decided that 90% HR B's were good and now can only read ar10?
_________________________________________________________________bonbori wrote:
If people ruin themselves it's for a reason. Either they don't have anyone to tell them that they fucked up, or they simply have a halter that makes it impossible for them to see any problem with themselves.
I used an extreme example for the purpose of making my point clear, but comic-relief was also intendedAstrofiziks wrote:
i'm sorry but i laughedbonbori wrote:
people who could potentially become the next ruruchi
No, thanks, I like reading threads in here to see what kind of terrible advice people give from time to time, such as:Endaris wrote:
get your ass out of here thenbonbori wrote:
People won't get better at osu for reading the forums, they will get better at osu for playing the game.
As I said I'm not telling anyone what to play unless that person asked for opinions(and I'm also not presenting it as the holy grail).
- ISetsunaI - wrote:
Silly question, how did you get started [into playing FL]?
Oh and do people actually use FL for maps with small jumps (without memorization)? I know there's plenty of maps with short jumps ,but most of them are really old.
__________________________________________________________________________pandaBee wrote:
Flashlight is a terrible mod, please do not play it.
How can you even say that if you don't play anything but nomod? What aspects of DT and HR do you understand to be so confident of your own argument. Seriously, you literally have less than 5 DT and HR runs added altogether. You don't seem to understand my point in this thread. You don't seem to understand that I am not saying how someone should or should not practice.Endaris wrote:
Nomod is a safe way to go though as there is no way to develop the bad habits DT/HR can cause.
Okay, I can pass those 3.5*, it's the 4.5-5.0* that are the nasty ones right now. But I feel like I'm making progress. It's nice to have opinions coming from all ends of the spectrum -- all ends that are still better than me, ahaha. & thanks for making that beginner guide, it's been helpful to have something to start working from. Although I feel the most improvement comes from when I watch my replays and go "oh yeah, I actually DID miss that note because of x/y/z, and this is how I can fix it"Endaris wrote:
Maybe you can't even remember anymore how it was to be to fail 3.5* star maps out of mere lack of skill cause you're such OsuGods but I certainly do.
/edit: Also I'm never telling people how to play unless they ask me to. OP asked, why wouldn't I give my opinion?
!!!!peckc wrote:
Practice. Practice. Practice.
That's what I expect most people to do. People who will "ruin themselves" are the specific case that you mentioned of people who can't understand when it is time to stopKhelly wrote:
So you JUST SAID if they can't handle it they will realise it and back away and now you counter that with "they ruin themselves for a reason"?
Except that this would be like comparing low-end DT with high-end DT, instead of completely different types of gameplay as you have been suggesting up till now.Endaris wrote:
It's more like:
A: Hey, how do i learn to ski a black piste if i never ski'd before?
Me: You start out on blue pistes to learn how to change directions without falling down every 2s and accelerating too fast. Once you can do that you can move on to more steep red pistes and become more familiar with rough terrain.
A: BUT I WANNA DO BLACK PISTES!!!
Me: Enjoy game pls.
Like me, I abused DT and HR enough to break my insidesEndaris wrote:
How is DT different from nomod?
It's just faster -> more steep piste.
I think OP is smart enough to not run into bad habits but depending on who asks the question there are plenty of people that will do.
lol, if you can't distinguish nomod and DT, then I have nothing else to do in here, gl helping other peopleEndaris wrote:
How is DT different from nomod?
It's just faster -> more steep piste.
I think OP is smart enough to not run into bad habits but depending on who asks the question there are plenty of people that will do.
Umm, lots of songs have AR 9.5 that have high BPM. DT is quite indistinguishable nowadaysbonbori wrote:
lol, if you can't distinguish nomod and DT, then I have nothing else to do in here, gl helping other people
I am not talking about low-end DTThe Gambler wrote:
Umm, lots of songs have AR 9.5 that have high BPM. DT is quite indistinguishable nowadaysbonbori wrote:
lol, if you can't distinguish nomod and DT, then I have nothing else to do in here, gl helping other people
unless you're doing AR10.3
Rofl.bonbori wrote:
I am not talking about low-end DT
Endaris wrote:
Rofl.bonbori wrote:
I am not talking about low-end DT
You do realize we talk about a 1,2k pp player, right?
He is NOT going to play high-end DT too soon even if he's the next rrtyui
Uh, no. OD10 is objectively more difficult than OD8. That's not difficult to say at all.Mikakage wrote:
Yet, for many, aiming a pattern or dealing with OD8 streams are easier than dealing with AR10 and OD>=9.8. Hard to say which one is more complex, huh?
Good for you, and you did that, so that's okay.Mikakage wrote:
For me? Until recently, yes,
And the PP system has potential to be so broken that you can get extremely far without having to learn mods purely through map choice that you really shouldn't need mods until a certain level in the first place.Mikakage wrote:
Ok? And?
And? I made my accuracy, reading, and timing better by simply playing more nomod. You don't need mods to improve your accuracy, reading, and timing in general. Playing HR will make you better at playing HR. Playing DT will make you better at playing DT. Playing nomod will make you better at playing nomod. The difference being, playing HR and DT have the potential to make you worse at nomod.bonbori wrote:
No I am also really good at nomod, DT and HD. HR made my accuracy, reading and timing better, which are quite the walls for players who go from OD8 nomods to OD9-10 nomods or even DT/HR. I am quite sure I have more expertise in this matter than you do, so please, refrain from doubting, specially since I made practice courses and helped people practice and pretty much all of them have, not only higher pp (since you're talking about pp, I will do so too), but their actual plays are better than yours.
And why do you think I'm here? I'm here to warn people against fucking up and to try to steer them away from HR. If they're asking for help in GnR, that means they're already unsure about it. If someone thinks HR will help them, they'll be sure about it and play HR. If someone's unsure, then they probably shouldn't be playing HR.bonbori wrote:
If people ruin themselves it's for a reason. Either they don't have anyone to tell them that they fucked up, or they simply have a halter that makes it impossible for them to see any problem with themselves.
So you're saying you're more qualified to talk about how new players will improve in general than I am meanwhile you yourself were both shut-ins in terms of learning. What you're doing is basically taking your own experience and you believe in it as 100% fact that works for all players.bonbori wrote:
a) both Mikakage and I can do DT, no mod, HR and HD (to a certain extent) as well as read lower ARs (he does it better than I do) where neither of us had any single human being trying to point out how we should practice, we did it on our own
https://osu.ppy.sh/u/Falling%20snowStephOsu wrote:
no mod masterrace