depends on maps
^ thissilmarilen wrote:
i am the better player
I have a friend who is player 2, and I'm the player 1. Overall accuracy is the better way to go, since the combo loss can be a simple mistake. Player 2 however hasn't demonstrated the same amount of control -- lower accuracy to me means key spam.balldoowell wrote:
So my girlfriend and I are having a bit of an argument right now.
Imagine a multiplayer scenario with only two people playing.
Player one scores a combo of 500x and an accuracy of 99%
Player two scores a combo of 1000x with an accuracy of 89%
Its no question that player two won the game, but does that make them a better play than the other?
I say player one is better, because had they not missed that single note they would have won by a landslide.
My girlfriend however thinks that player two is the better player simply because they had won the game.
does skill correlate to accuracy or nah you decide
With a bunch of 100's and 50's.ShadyAngel wrote:
how do you 1000x combo with 89% acc?
Barusamikosu wrote:
Player two is better because he gets PP while acc players are left crying over what could have been.
Oh? I see my meme is still being used...pandaBee wrote:
I'd rather fail a song than mash pass it, muh mussel memory.
Tsk...ZenithPhantasm wrote:
Actually its Noobsicle's meme
99% with 500 combo is just a shitmiss/sliderbreak. It already shows that the player can play the song without any difficulty. Any accuracy below 98.5% shows that the map is a bit out of one's comfort zone. Anything under 90% you are just barely keeping up and mashing.U wot m8?
still mashed through the stream part[Taiga] wrote:
90% is mashing? Also depends... i have few maps where i can keep up 100% acc on single tap part but 1-2 streams will make end acc ~90% becouse i cannot stream for shit. I am talking about maps in range 4,5-5*. How is that button mashing when i am too slow to stream?
Ridiculus....
[Taiga] wrote:
U wot m8?
still mashed through the stream partStill SS on single tap part, i dont give a single F about streams, current meta "who place more braindamaged streams into single map" is just meh.
good luck getting FC on beatmaps above 5 stars then[Taiga] wrote:
still mashed through the stream partStill SS on single tap part, i dont give a single F about streams, current meta "who place more braindamaged streams into single map" is just meh.
I agree about mashed streams but somehow i need to gain speed to not mash them. Still jumping is way more funny than facerolling keyboard on stream.
Old single tap acc mapping >>>>>> current "faceroll keyboard on stream" mapping.
There are more factors that determine a good player. Player two might be one of those players with god aim but horrendous accuracy. While player one might be the opposite. And in osu tournament/lobby, consistent aim is far more stronger than consistent acc due to shitty combo based bullshit. It sucks but its just how it is. The player with stronger aim has better chance at winning. The only exception is when they pick a stream map so it becomes an accuracy and stamina war, this happens sometimes in tournament. In which case good aim won't mean much. I guess that's the gist of it.balldoowell wrote:
Imagine a multiplayer scenario with only two people playing.
Player one scores a combo of 500x and an accuracy of 99%
Player two scores a combo of 1000x with an accuracy of 89%
does skill correlate to accuracy or nah you decide
Streams also have an aim component. Ever notice the difference between the beginning and end of FD4D?KukiMonster wrote:
There are more factors that determine a good player. Player two might be one of those players with god aim but horrendous accuracy. While player one might be the opposite. And in osu tournament/lobby, consistent aim is far more stronger than consistent acc due to shitty combo based bullshit. It sucks but its just how it is. The player with stronger aim has better chance at winning. The only exception is when they pick a stream map so it becomes an accuracy and stamina war, this happens sometimes in tournament. In which case good aim won't mean much. I guess that's the gist of it.balldoowell wrote:
Imagine a multiplayer scenario with only two people playing.
Player one scores a combo of 500x and an accuracy of 99%
Player two scores a combo of 1000x with an accuracy of 89%
does skill correlate to accuracy or nah you decide
Stream maps can include spaced streams yes - it's not a true exception.KukiMonster wrote:
Yeah they are "spaced streams".
Well I'm glad to see your reasoning as to why streams don't require aim.KukiMonster wrote:
ye whatever you say sherlock
You didn't write stream don't require aim - you left it out and used streams as the example where aim is less important and called this the exception; calling it the exception makes it sound like aim is a non-factor. I included something I felt that you left out and you responded with only, "Yeah, they're spaced streams." and that's it as to completely write it off as non important which I don't think it is.KukiMonster wrote:
I use acc and streams as mere examples of more factors that can determine a good player. Despite the obviously simplified, brief single-paragraph explanation, you determine this to be the extent of my knowledge which is rather rude. And although I could write an entire article if I really wanted to, not once did I write that "streams don't require aim", instead you miraculously assume that I am somewhat stupid enough to not understand the dynamics of these simple factors. I was being light hearted in my previous replies hoping that you wouldn't be 'that guy' but you were being unreasonable. pls don't be that guy.
is unreasonable and no I don't pick up the "light heartedness."KukiMonster wrote:
Yeah they are "spaced streams".
I responded to your question regarding the streams toward the end in FD4D. My answer was concise, self-explanatory and doesn't need to be longer than it is especially since we both already know these things. What more do you expect? How is this unreasonable lol!Khelly wrote:
is unreasonable and no I don't pick up the "light heartedness."KukiMonster wrote:
Yeah they are "spaced streams".
Yeah "we" both know these things but I thought your first paragraph mentioning streams was for balldoowell in the first place - not for me.KukiMonster wrote:
I responded to your question regarding the streams toward the end in FD4D. My answer was concise, self-explanatory and doesn't need to be longer than it is especially since we both already know these things. What more do you expect? How is this unreasonable lol!
No just stop it, stop being illogical, stop being overly pedantic, stop making up crap I never wrote. It is a fact that you don't need god aim in a stream war and that's all I wrote. I never said "streams don't require aim" wtf
This sounded to me like you were saying "Yeah, your post is shit, you're wrong, and I don't even want to acknowledge it. There's no reason to discuss it." THAT's where I felt you were discounting the fact that I said streams require aim. Why did you say "Whatever you say" in the first place? What was the point?KukiMonster wrote:
ye whatever you say sherlock
Does player one even exist? Either way, I think the first player has better potential given how long it takes the average player to learn proper streaming.Jojoha wrote:
Since this thread is about comparsion, who is the better player?
The one who gets 100s in singles but always gets 300s in all streams
or the one who gets 300s in all singles but always gets 100s in all streams