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I find it hard for someone to not be able to see it.
I imagine this could actually be a really cool idea.
On another note, could you give an example of what a role might look like? Like one master and one servant example.
You lose nothing from not being there anyway.
For future reference, if anyone needs a review or a co-host, I'm available until February.
I have quite a bit of free time and don't mind to help anyone :p
Not willing to host my own game until then.
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I guess something got broken again.
I thought I was somehow responsible for a second and it scared the shit out of me.
I was thinking that someone could make a nice post in General Discussion about Mafia to potentially recruit some new players. I believe people don't even notice such section even exists most of the time or are discouraged by a lack of any welcome/guidance.
I wouldn't mind doing that.. Unless someone else wanted to.
Someone should sticky it though.
Someone should sticky it though.
I find it hard for someone to not be able to see it.
The fact that it's visible doesn't mean people actually check it out. If we try to explain the basics to them on the GD forums (which is more popular) we might get some people interested.
oh hey shit's actually alive again.
How to play mafia? I never played it before 
Is irc mafia still a thing? Should I unpin it?
It's not really a thing anymore that I know of, but dkun would be a better person to ask about that than anyone else.
I'd join IRC mafia too again.
idk about how IRC mafia works but I'm interested in joining both that and forum mafia
From what I've seen this looks sweet
From what I've seen this looks sweet
Ohai Tess!
I see you want to get your hands dirty with blood play mafia 
I really do, it looks pretty awesome. I've been reading the Orange Juice thread, if all games are like that this'll be interesting. Also what's up with this IRC mafia thing? It sounds fun too
IRC-Mafia works similar to this mafia, but it's real-time. You go on an IRC-Chat (which is specially prepared for mafia, which commands and such) and play with others. Difference is that rounds are much shorter and that it's automatized.
It's a bit difficult to get people together (timezones etc.).. most I know (and play this game) are from oversea which makes it a bit difficult. I think CalignoBot asked me some time ago, maybe we can ask him for further details.
well, thing is the one that runs the IRC server is dkun and i haven't heard from him.
Could try mafiascum's irc tho.
Forum is the best one to play across all time zones.
Could try mafiascum's irc tho.
Forum is the best one to play across all time zones.
I can try reaching him in Steam, I'll tell you if I hear further.
But wow tho it's been a while since we've had this much interest in mafia, definitively was a good time to revive the forum.
I'm too excited to play ;; getting impatient for the OJ game to finish
It'll take a while to finish, however i may need a replacement soon.
I'm pretty sure the spot we used for IRC Mafia last still exists, I just literally forgot the link to it.
If I could find my way back to it and we could get daisuki back up, we could start using it again since I had admin powers there.
If I could find my way back to it and we could get daisuki back up, we could start using it again since I had admin powers there.
If you mean the whitelist one, i still have that link.
The older one i have no idea.
The older one i have no idea.
Sure, what is the link?Sakura wrote:
If you mean the whitelist one, i still have that link.
The older one i have no idea.
Wow everyone is all back. I have no time though. Been doing lots of volunteering lately, which I really enjoy. Will have fun reading the games though.
apply my mod :'(Raging Bull wrote:
Wow everyone is all back. I have no time though. Been doing lots of volunteering lately, which I really enjoy. Will have fun reading the games though.
I haven't played a game so far where PMs are allowed, it sounds refreshing could someone do one of those perhaps?
I shouldn't really be saying this, but please do remember to not post when a game is in Night Phase (After the game mod posts the lynch scene).
The 3 posts in that one game I'm not allowed to talk about were posted by accident and simultaneously with the lynch scene (sent about 1-2 minutes after it).
Everyone knows that it's not allowed to write during the Night.
Everyone knows that it's not allowed to write during the Night.
minute difference posts are usually okay. 30 miutes however...
me or sakura can take care of it
So I've been thinking about this for a while.. How would a Holy Grail War Mafia work?
14 players - 11 town, 3 mafia?
There are 7 "Masters" and 7 "Servants". The 7 masters have three command spells which they can use to command their servants. Though after a master used all three, they wouldn't be able to control their servants anymore. This would make them a vanilla I guess? Another way to become vanilla is if one's servant is killed. And then I guess there's a qt link for each pairs.
Hmm.. maybe masters won't be VTs and they can still kill each other but they can't kill other servants because servants > masters
and then fucking Berserker is the most OP role because Noble Phantasm
What do you guys think?
14 players - 11 town, 3 mafia?
There are 7 "Masters" and 7 "Servants". The 7 masters have three command spells which they can use to command their servants. Though after a master used all three, they wouldn't be able to control their servants anymore. This would make them a vanilla I guess? Another way to become vanilla is if one's servant is killed. And then I guess there's a qt link for each pairs.
Hmm.. maybe masters won't be VTs and they can still kill each other but they can't kill other servants because servants > masters
What do you guys think?
The "Of Gods and Men" setup I had in the queue a while back had a somewhat similar concept.
I personally think that vanilla masters getting a kill might be too much. If there's already 21 'powers' in the game, there really doesn't need to be more.
EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, you'd have to be very careful to design it in a way that wouldn't be easily broken with a massclaim. Just by claiming what powers each pair has, it would be pretty difficult to not break the game for town.
I personally think that vanilla masters getting a kill might be too much. If there's already 21 'powers' in the game, there really doesn't need to be more.
EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, you'd have to be very careful to design it in a way that wouldn't be easily broken with a massclaim. Just by claiming what powers each pair has, it would be pretty difficult to not break the game for town.
Well, the servants have their own powers too so I guess there's 28 powers in total...
Command spells can be used to change or block their servants' actions.
Powers won't affect alignment. A master can be scum while the servant is town or vice versa.
Command spells can be used to change or block their servants' actions.
Powers won't affect alignment. A master can be scum while the servant is town or vice versa.
The problem with having a lot of power is that you have to keep town from confirming too many people's alignments one way or the other. Massclaiming and directing night actions is very dangerous for scum if not properly planned against.
A game that prevents massclaim?
Actually, power role heavy games should be designed predominantly around a mass claim happening day one.
Maybe you could use Command Spells to gain an additional vote as well. I didn't like the idea of scum/mafia servant/master pairs, but it reminds me of Gil/Tokiomi so it would probably work. Maybe you could tone Berserker down by removing his ability to vote? But giving a really crazy role to make up for that. I think massclaiming on day one would be silly - think of the fate series where the Servants try to hide their Noble Phantasm for as long as they can to be able to launch surprise attacks and prevent counterstrategies.Navizel wrote:
So I've been thinking about this for a while.. How would a Holy Grail War Mafia work?
14 players - 11 town, 3 mafia?
There are 7 "Masters" and 7 "Servants". The 7 masters have three command spells which they can use to command their servants. Though after a master used all three, they wouldn't be able to control their servants anymore. This would make them a vanilla I guess? Another way to become vanilla is if one's servant is killed. And then I guess there's a qt link for each pairs.
Hmm.. maybe masters won't be VTs and they can still kill each other but they can't kill other servants because servants > mastersand then fucking Berserker is the most OP role because Noble Phantasm
What do you guys think?
I imagine this could actually be a really cool idea.
On another note, could you give an example of what a role might look like? Like one master and one servant example.
I'm thinking of preventing mass claims. In Fate series, revealing a servan't true name can put them in a disadvantage.
Instead of a scum-town pair, maybe I could just use the three to be scums and the rest are town.
I don't have any idea about the roles of a master and a servant yet. Only the three command spells one.
Maybe something like one of Shirou's command spell can suppress Saber's Noble Phantasm which is 1-shot vig or smth
Instead of a scum-town pair, maybe I could just use the three to be scums and the rest are town.
I don't have any idea about the roles of a master and a servant yet. Only the three command spells one.
Maybe something like one of Shirou's command spell can suppress Saber's Noble Phantasm which is 1-shot vig or smth
Why not put four scums, two pairs?
Also, an idea for roles of master and servant could be:
Here's an example with Berserker:
...Not gonna lie, I tried my best to balance this (with constant death looming and also having to exchange usage of the NP for your only chance to vote) but it still looks kinda OP lol. Anyway, those are some examples of how it could work. Balancing this would be pretty hard, I can already tell. Or I just suck at this.
Also, these were made assuming same-team pairs. Different team pairs would make some of this rather disastrous lol. What do you think?
Also, an idea for roles of master and servant could be:
You are Kotomine Kirei, Master from the Church, and an Executor. Your Servant is Assassin Hassan.
Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Church Protection - Once per game, you can not be nightkilled.
You are Assassin Hassan. Your Noble Phantasm is Division. Your Master is Kotomine Kirei.
Spy - Once per night, you may target a player. If that player performs a Night action, you will know which night action it was. If you get nightkilled, your Master will be informed of that action instead.
Division - If you are killed by any means other than lynching, you do not die; but your class, name, and Noble Phantasm will be made public. Does not work against Anti-Army or Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms.
Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Church Protection - Once per game, you can not be nightkilled.
You are Assassin Hassan. Your Noble Phantasm is Division. Your Master is Kotomine Kirei.
Spy - Once per night, you may target a player. If that player performs a Night action, you will know which night action it was. If you get nightkilled, your Master will be informed of that action instead.
Division - If you are killed by any means other than lynching, you do not die; but your class, name, and Noble Phantasm will be made public. Does not work against Anti-Army or Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms.
You are Kotomine Kirei, Master from the Church, and an Executor. Your Servant is Assassin Hassan.
Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Church Inheritance - You have one additional Command Spell.
You are Assassin Hassan. Your Noble Phantasm is Division. Your Master is Kotomine Kirei.
Infiltrate - Once per game, you may pick a player. If they are a Master, they'll be knocked out for the Day. If they are a Servant, learn all information about their role.
Division - If you are killed by any means other than lynching, you do not die; but your class, name, and Noble Phantasm will be made public. Does not work against Anti-Army or Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms.
^Alignment-specific abilities with non-alignment specific roles/NPs would prevent any significant massclaims. I could say I'm Assassin but they'd still not know whether I'm town or scum, even if they knew I'm Assassin Hassan. In the case of Division, even if my identity is compromised, my alignment remains a secret.Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Church Inheritance - You have one additional Command Spell.
You are Assassin Hassan. Your Noble Phantasm is Division. Your Master is Kotomine Kirei.
Infiltrate - Once per game, you may pick a player. If they are a Master, they'll be knocked out for the Day. If they are a Servant, learn all information about their role.
Division - If you are killed by any means other than lynching, you do not die; but your class, name, and Noble Phantasm will be made public. Does not work against Anti-Army or Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms.
Here's an example with Berserker:
You are Matou Kariya, representing the Matou family, for Sakura's sake. You are a Master. Your Servant is Berserker Lancelot.
Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Blade Wing Worms - Once per game, you can target a player. If they are a Master, they die. If they are a Servant, you die.
You are Berserker Lancelot. Your Noble Phantasm is Arondight. Your Master is Matou Kariya.
Mad Enhancement - You went Berserk when summoned. You can not vote.
Knight of Honor - Once per Day (either during the day or night), you can target a player. If they are a Master, nothing happens. If they are a Servant, gain the ability from their Noble Phantasm, until the start of the next Day. You can only use this ability once on each player.
For Someone's Glory - Your identity, abilities, and Noble Phantasm, can not be discerned by any kind of ability, until you die.
Arondight - Cancels For Someone's Glory and Knight of Honor for the rest of the game. Target two players. The first has their Noble Phantasm revealed, and is KO'd for the rest of the day. The second dies, along with your Master.
In this case, the only differences for the scum versions could be the following:Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Blade Wing Worms - Once per game, you can target a player. If they are a Master, they die. If they are a Servant, you die.
You are Berserker Lancelot. Your Noble Phantasm is Arondight. Your Master is Matou Kariya.
Mad Enhancement - You went Berserk when summoned. You can not vote.
Knight of Honor - Once per Day (either during the day or night), you can target a player. If they are a Master, nothing happens. If they are a Servant, gain the ability from their Noble Phantasm, until the start of the next Day. You can only use this ability once on each player.
For Someone's Glory - Your identity, abilities, and Noble Phantasm, can not be discerned by any kind of ability, until you die.
Arondight - Cancels For Someone's Glory and Knight of Honor for the rest of the game. Target two players. The first has their Noble Phantasm revealed, and is KO'd for the rest of the day. The second dies, along with your Master.
- Kariya's ability is replaced with Crest Worms - You are weak. If your Servant uses an ability two days in a row, you die.
- Knight of Honor is replaced with Knight of Honor II - When an enemy Servant uses their Noble Phantasm on you, as long as it is an object, cancel their attack. Their Noble Phantasm is now yours, until you release it; it will then return to them. Does not work if you are already holding a Noble Phantasm.
- Noble Phantasm adjusted; Arondight - Cancels For Someone's Glory and Knight of Honor II for the rest of the game. Target two players. The first is KO'd, along with your Master. Their names and Noble Phantasms are revealed.
Also, these were made assuming same-team pairs. Different team pairs would make some of this rather disastrous lol. What do you think?
I don't think different alignment pairs would be a problem, that's where command seals could shine? well it comes down to whether you want mason pairs vs a scumteam or 2p neightbourhoods.
4 scum would be too much for a 14p game probably.
4 scum would be too much for a 14p game probably.
That looks good Tess. I think I would run Fate/Stay Night instead of Fate/Zero. Considering all the powers in the game, yes, it would be hard to balance. Each pair has a neighborhood btw.
I think it's going to be a flavor only reveal
I think it's going to be a flavor only reveal
If you need help balancing you can also contact me. Also stay night would probably be better, the servants there are more balanced imo (f/z berserker is fucking absurd).
@Drezi: I meant this specific setup wouldn't work for different-alignment pairs. Some pairs should always be the same alignment though, for example the Berserker pair. No matter which HGW you'd base it on, Berserker should always lose voting ability, which makes him highly dependent on his Master to achieve anything. Whereas a pair like Saber or Archer could do fine with different alignments, since those are always capable of indepedent action.
@Drezi: I meant this specific setup wouldn't work for different-alignment pairs. Some pairs should always be the same alignment though, for example the Berserker pair. No matter which HGW you'd base it on, Berserker should always lose voting ability, which makes him highly dependent on his Master to achieve anything. Whereas a pair like Saber or Archer could do fine with different alignments, since those are always capable of indepedent action.
Cool. I still have my League Upick so I don't want to worry about this for now.
Not sure if this is the best place to put this but:
Hi, I've been playing mafia for a few years. Just found out OSU has a mafia community. Looking forward to playing with you all.
Is there like, a skype group or something I can join? Or is it more of a 'refresh till a game appears' type thing? Thx
Hi, I've been playing mafia for a few years. Just found out OSU has a mafia community. Looking forward to playing with you all.
Is there like, a skype group or something I can join? Or is it more of a 'refresh till a game appears' type thing? Thx
Well currently we are having 2 games going at a time, so a new game wont open until one of those finish, good to know there's more people interested tho ^_^
does anyone still have the ISo generator
Dunno if this is the right place to discuss it, but on the new forum layout coming soon™, we'll not appear on the front page.
I wonder if we can do something about it.
I wonder if we can do something about it.
Man this new site design makes mafia game toxic with "more pages loading if you scroll down" thing.
It's like osu! followed last.fm's design change which made the site worse.
I think the new site design is straight up worse in general.
Someone needs to start a petition to make sure that the new forum design never see the light of day again.
Maybe we should all migrate to MS
It' true we would be okay in MS, but I like the people and the games we have here. In MS it wouldn't just be the same.
Also it's quite obvious we aren't going to stop the forum changes... And that mafia will be almost unplayable in such forum.
Also it's quite obvious we aren't going to stop the forum changes... And that mafia will be almost unplayable in such forum.
Well i in'd to mod a game together with pie on the Mini Theme queue over there, if anyone's interested, tho it might be a while until it reaches the top of the queue XD
That's just disgusting though. I hope that update seriously doesn't go through or else we're done here.
And I would rather not go to MS, I'll be too sad ):
And I would rather not go to MS, I'll be too sad ):
once there is fully become the new forum design.I may move to MS.(I think)
like i have a abandon account in there.
like i have a abandon account in there.
Most depressing thing I've read today )))):- Magic Bomb - wrote:
I've still never even been on MS, I should probably get ready for the move to there
Today is not my day. The train too so long to get to the stop I needed to get to and now I can't login to Epic mafia from school. I blame EM's new IP policy.
It's ok.Setsuen wrote:
Today is not my day. The train too so long to get to the stop I needed to get to and now I can't login to Epic mafia from school. I blame EM's new IP policy.
You lose nothing from not being there anyway.
Who cares about EM anyway
Town of Salem is better
If anyone here is interested me and pie currently have a game in signups on MS's mini theme queue: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p7320894 feel free to join, we're co-modding this game
Well, that reminds me I have to play that game. After Persona 3 I guess.
also /in-d on that. We should invade that game kek
also /in-d on that. We should invade that game kek
Yes you should ^_^Navizel wrote:
We should invade that game kek
Your MS avatar is amazing.
Idk, i look at it and find it funny
I'm thinking of hosting an 11p closed setup, it's got some elements which are kinda hard to balance
I wonder if anyone would be willing to give up joining to help me with it
it's pretty gimmicky too
I wonder if anyone would be willing to give up joining to help me with it
it's pretty gimmicky too
Down to help if you'd like.Frostings wrote:
I'm thinking of hosting an 11p closed setup, it's got some elements which are kinda hard to balance
I wonder if anyone would be willing to give up joining to help me with it
it's pretty gimmicky too
For future reference, if anyone needs a review or a co-host, I'm available until February.
I have quite a bit of free time and don't mind to help anyone :p
Not willing to host my own game until then.
fuck I have a CRAVING to play again, considering playing a game on mafiascum
fucking play scrub we love u
(This is not related with the current league of Upick)
On 0:13
Setsuen is that you?
On 0:13
Setsuen is that you?
Getting ready to host a game but I'd like a co-host who's willing to be my bitch :*
ahahahaaha but seriously that would be nice :<
ahahahaaha but seriously that would be nice :<
Still LF someone to help review my Lucky Blitz Confusion mafia.
anyone willing to review whatever I'm going to mod next
not sure what's the theme yet but it's a role madness. maybe upick
not sure what's the theme yet but it's a role madness. maybe upick
Totally off topic but merry christmas everyone
<3
merry Christmas to my mafia family
merry Christmas to my mafia family
maybe February
a ded place
dead mafia
dead
dead
/in to host Mafia Restoration Project II and jump the q bc we're dead as fuck