If we started hosting a normal + mini game concurrently again, would there be enough demand for it?
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Edit: WHy am i not using the edit function... TOO MUCH MAFIA!!!
"If you don't have time to play, you have no business joining games." - Pjovek
Oh wait, wrong thread.
I find it hard for someone to not be able to see it.
I imagine this could actually be a really cool idea.
On another note, could you give an example of what a role might look like? Like one master and one servant example.
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I can handle over 5 games at a time so it's always fine for me.
Oh btw, just ftr imma use plurality lynch on my next modded game that i put on the mod queue.
Wanna see how different they behave from having Majority lynches games.
Was thinking of using Bankable Deadlines but not sure how many ppl would like that, discuss?
Wanna see how different they behave from having Majority lynches games.
Was thinking of using Bankable Deadlines but not sure how many ppl would like that, discuss?
I don't think it matters too much tbh, well at least in the games I have played day length hasn't felt too short, but waiting out 48h nights was a pain, it should last until all night actions have been submitted I think.
I've always done 24h nights in osu!, if this was MS it'd be a different story but yeah.
My deadlines here are usually 1 week days and 24h nights (it used to be double that but it felt like the days would never end along with osu!'s activity or lack thereof)
My deadlines here are usually 1 week days and 24h nights (it used to be double that but it felt like the days would never end along with osu!'s activity or lack thereof)
I agree with 24h nights, 48 seems a bit too much for this specially since we have a single game going it makes the forum kinda... boring?
Also Im up to play in case we get a normal + mini going.
Also Im up to play in case we get a normal + mini going.
I have my nights last 48 hours because of time zone issues. 24 hours is too short for some scumteams to be able to communicate.
EDIT: I should clarify. I originally had my first modded game set to 24 hours, but I had a request to extend night's deadline because of this reason.
EDIT: I should clarify. I originally had my first modded game set to 24 hours, but I had a request to extend night's deadline because of this reason.
I see, but is there a problem with having the night end once all night actions have been submitted? Scum can just wait with submitting their nightkill if they feel they need the whole night duration/couldn't talk due to timezone issues.
Well we will see how GIM2 fares, considering the randomness and freedom it brings onto peoples alignments and roles.
If anyone has any questions on how that setup works before it's up for modding they can check the previous thread or ask me.
I'm not comfortable with this since it could result in clearing people based on timing of night starting and ending, but I will address it in another way in the next game I host.Drezi wrote:
I see, but is there a problem with having the night end once all night actions have been submitted? Scum can just wait with submitting their nightkill if they feel they need the whole night duration/couldn't talk due to timezone issues.
This place's become quite quiet.
everyone left with you sakura. there is no more gif, pieguy, rb, heck even sephibro (though he makes occassional comments still).
basically it's the same 9 guys playing the same set up because there simply aren't enough people to sustain more.
basically it's the same 9 guys playing the same set up because there simply aren't enough people to sustain more.
GiF went to korea for about 2 months, little before i left, currently trying to convince him to come back
pieguy doesn't wanna come back because reasons i dont know if im allowed to say.
rb and sephibro no idea, i thought sephibro stopped playing because "We're too bad at mafia"
pieguy doesn't wanna come back because reasons i dont know if im allowed to say.
rb and sephibro no idea, i thought sephibro stopped playing because "We're too bad at mafia"
Then i shall bring variety!Tanzklaue wrote:
basically it's the same 9 guys playing the same set up because there simply aren't enough people to sustain more.
Edit: WHy am i not using the edit function... TOO MUCH MAFIA!!!
:/ whatever bothers pieguy, i wish him best of luck in solving whatever the issue is. though i imagine it's something related to people on this site. rb is away because work and school crush him atm or at least did when he disappeared 3 months ago.
what we really need is that we are less intimidating to new people. currently we are way too elitist for most people to wat to join. we also need games that are strictly for newcomers, that have one or two experts in them to guide the newcomers. also, we need to do something to combat activity issues. if you don't plan on being active in a game, don't join. i beg you.
what we really need is that we are less intimidating to new people. currently we are way too elitist for most people to wat to join. we also need games that are strictly for newcomers, that have one or two experts in them to guide the newcomers. also, we need to do something to combat activity issues. if you don't plan on being active in a game, don't join. i beg you.
Doesn't pieguy left because he always get into 1v1 with Sakura most of the games?
I'd assume that because it happens quite often lately.
I'd assume that because it happens quite often lately.
[8:29:37 PM] pieguy: uh fine w/ me
So I shall.
Basically he says that if he starts playing mafia here again then everytime he thinks about osu! he's gonna think about mafia and he wants to avoid that, MS is pretty much the only place i see him at lately and even there i rarely see him.
So I shall.
Basically he says that if he starts playing mafia here again then everytime he thinks about osu! he's gonna think about mafia and he wants to avoid that, MS is pretty much the only place i see him at lately and even there i rarely see him.
so he wants to keep osu and mafia apart?
Something like that, i think he wants to not be thinking about mafia 24/7
Imma quote some smart guy for this:Tanzklaue wrote:
if you don't plan on being active in a game, don't join. i beg you.
"If you don't have time to play, you have no business joining games." - Pjovek
Vote: pieguy
obviously him wanting to stay away from mafia means that he is mafia.
obviously him wanting to stay away from mafia means that he is mafia.
Military annoying yo. Work is fine now, just school. Dont have stable internet though. I just moved in to a new home.
requesting life time mafia ban for BRBP.
also hey rb o/
also hey rb o/
Hi
Dunno if he's gonna be banned from all games, but I certainly have him in my blacklist for any games I mod.
Take my stars!Tanzklaue wrote:
requesting life time mafia ban for BRBP.
Oh wait, wrong thread.
NH's game filled so fast 
Edit: Just wanted to share this setup and looking for some feedback before putting it on queue.
Edit: Just wanted to share this setup and looking for some feedback before putting it on queue.
Chaos in Dummyville - The Sequel!
9p Semi-open
1 Serial Killer
1 Avenger
1 Mafia (Goon, Role Cop, Roleblocker, Arms Dealer)
1 Secret Role Townie
2 Town (Cop, Tracker, Watcher, Doctor, 1-shot Vigilante, Secret Role, Inventor)
3 Vanilla Townies
Notes:
Avenger is a lyncher. Has immunity to SK kills, but Vigilante and Mafia can kill him. Leaves the game after win. Does not win if dead.
Lynchee can be anyone with the exception being the SK.
Arms Dealer targets a person each night and learns if this person has a weapon.
Mafia can use their night action and kill the same night.
9p Semi-open
1 Serial Killer
1 Avenger
1 Mafia (Goon, Role Cop, Roleblocker, Arms Dealer)
1 Secret Role Townie
2 Town (Cop, Tracker, Watcher, Doctor, 1-shot Vigilante, Secret Role, Inventor)
3 Vanilla Townies
Notes:
Avenger is a lyncher. Has immunity to SK kills, but Vigilante and Mafia can kill him. Leaves the game after win. Does not win if dead.
Lynchee can be anyone with the exception being the SK.
Arms Dealer targets a person each night and learns if this person has a weapon.
Mafia can use their night action and kill the same night.
Seems like I come back and there's a sudden increase of players, I didn't know you guys liked me that much <3
I'm a lot more confident about activity now, so I'll start working on one of my setups.
sakura is not the hero the mafia subforum deserves, but the hero it needs right now.
Meh sorry Sakura, but Normal games are boring for me
But normal games are the most intense though.
Lets discuss this set-up
DebatableMafia2
10P game. Closed set-up(I'll be choosing the roles....YOU WON'T KNOW =P)
7Town
2Mafia
1 3rd party
Only 2Known roles out of the 10Roles.
1Mafia CompulsiveRoleCop
1Town CompulsiveRolecop
Mechanics:(More like a big twist)
Both cop will switch reports. The Mafia Rolecop report will be outed at DayStart while TownRoleCop report will go to the mafia's QT.
You cannot target the same target twice in a row UNTIL a Rolecop dies.
Any comments or suggestions? ;3
DebatableMafia2
10P game. Closed set-up(I'll be choosing the roles....YOU WON'T KNOW =P)
7Town
2Mafia
1 3rd party
Only 2Known roles out of the 10Roles.
1Mafia CompulsiveRoleCop
1Town CompulsiveRolecop
Mechanics:(More like a big twist)
Both cop will switch reports. The Mafia Rolecop report will be outed at DayStart while TownRoleCop report will go to the mafia's QT.
You cannot target the same target twice in a row UNTIL a Rolecop dies.
Any comments or suggestions? ;3
since it's a closed setup it's better to discuss it in private with a reviewer who wont take part of the game (or more like won't be able to)
I'm looking for suggestion/comments more on the Mechanics of the set-up because it's going to affect both rolecops a lot.Sakura wrote:
since it's a closed setup it's better to discuss it in private with a reviewer who wont take part of the game (or more like won't be able to)
I don't get the reason of why the reports are made public? Looks like awkward to me, also if they must perform their actions might as well remove that mechanic and call them compulsive (must use their action each night, if no action is sent the action target is RNG'd)
updated. The reason I want the mafia rolecop report to be made public is for town to know who's clear instead of: Mafia kills off town rolecop. RIP all the town clears because both cop exchanges report so no towncop = no mafia rolecop report and any previous clears are gone too.
A second reason is because of the roles I'm picking for the remaining 6towns.
and as usual, my set-up is highly depedent on night actions so outing a clear might not be detrimental for town at all.
A second reason is because of the roles I'm picking for the remaining 6towns.
and as usual, my set-up is highly depedent on night actions so outing a clear might not be detrimental for town at all.
Haha secret jester. Wins while trying to survive.
Wheres that puella magi theme!
Wheres that puella magi theme!
Mine? The setups done and looks like it's next to go. I'll reveal the gimmick when the thread starts.
These forums can't be seen from the main index.
Edit:
Edit:
I guess something got broken again.
I thought I was somehow responsible for a second and it scared the shit out of me.
I was thinking that someone could make a nice post in General Discussion about Mafia to potentially recruit some new players. I believe people don't even notice such section even exists most of the time or are discouraged by a lack of any welcome/guidance.
I wouldn't mind doing that.. Unless someone else wanted to.
Someone should sticky it though.
Someone should sticky it though.
I find it hard for someone to not be able to see it.
The fact that it's visible doesn't mean people actually check it out. If we try to explain the basics to them on the GD forums (which is more popular) we might get some people interested.
oh hey shit's actually alive again.
How to play mafia? I never played it before 
Is irc mafia still a thing? Should I unpin it?
It's not really a thing anymore that I know of, but dkun would be a better person to ask about that than anyone else.
I'd join IRC mafia too again.
idk about how IRC mafia works but I'm interested in joining both that and forum mafia
From what I've seen this looks sweet
From what I've seen this looks sweet
Ohai Tess!
I see you want to get your hands dirty with blood play mafia 
I really do, it looks pretty awesome. I've been reading the Orange Juice thread, if all games are like that this'll be interesting. Also what's up with this IRC mafia thing? It sounds fun too
IRC-Mafia works similar to this mafia, but it's real-time. You go on an IRC-Chat (which is specially prepared for mafia, which commands and such) and play with others. Difference is that rounds are much shorter and that it's automatized.
It's a bit difficult to get people together (timezones etc.).. most I know (and play this game) are from oversea which makes it a bit difficult. I think CalignoBot asked me some time ago, maybe we can ask him for further details.
well, thing is the one that runs the IRC server is dkun and i haven't heard from him.
Could try mafiascum's irc tho.
Forum is the best one to play across all time zones.
Could try mafiascum's irc tho.
Forum is the best one to play across all time zones.
I can try reaching him in Steam, I'll tell you if I hear further.
But wow tho it's been a while since we've had this much interest in mafia, definitively was a good time to revive the forum.
I'm too excited to play ;; getting impatient for the OJ game to finish
It'll take a while to finish, however i may need a replacement soon.
I'm pretty sure the spot we used for IRC Mafia last still exists, I just literally forgot the link to it.
If I could find my way back to it and we could get daisuki back up, we could start using it again since I had admin powers there.
If I could find my way back to it and we could get daisuki back up, we could start using it again since I had admin powers there.
If you mean the whitelist one, i still have that link.
The older one i have no idea.
The older one i have no idea.
Sure, what is the link?Sakura wrote:
If you mean the whitelist one, i still have that link.
The older one i have no idea.
Wow everyone is all back. I have no time though. Been doing lots of volunteering lately, which I really enjoy. Will have fun reading the games though.
apply my mod :'(Raging Bull wrote:
Wow everyone is all back. I have no time though. Been doing lots of volunteering lately, which I really enjoy. Will have fun reading the games though.
I haven't played a game so far where PMs are allowed, it sounds refreshing could someone do one of those perhaps?
I shouldn't really be saying this, but please do remember to not post when a game is in Night Phase (After the game mod posts the lynch scene).
The 3 posts in that one game I'm not allowed to talk about were posted by accident and simultaneously with the lynch scene (sent about 1-2 minutes after it).
Everyone knows that it's not allowed to write during the Night.
Everyone knows that it's not allowed to write during the Night.
minute difference posts are usually okay. 30 miutes however...
me or sakura can take care of it
So I've been thinking about this for a while.. How would a Holy Grail War Mafia work?
14 players - 11 town, 3 mafia?
There are 7 "Masters" and 7 "Servants". The 7 masters have three command spells which they can use to command their servants. Though after a master used all three, they wouldn't be able to control their servants anymore. This would make them a vanilla I guess? Another way to become vanilla is if one's servant is killed. And then I guess there's a qt link for each pairs.
Hmm.. maybe masters won't be VTs and they can still kill each other but they can't kill other servants because servants > masters
and then fucking Berserker is the most OP role because Noble Phantasm
What do you guys think?
14 players - 11 town, 3 mafia?
There are 7 "Masters" and 7 "Servants". The 7 masters have three command spells which they can use to command their servants. Though after a master used all three, they wouldn't be able to control their servants anymore. This would make them a vanilla I guess? Another way to become vanilla is if one's servant is killed. And then I guess there's a qt link for each pairs.
Hmm.. maybe masters won't be VTs and they can still kill each other but they can't kill other servants because servants > masters
What do you guys think?
The "Of Gods and Men" setup I had in the queue a while back had a somewhat similar concept.
I personally think that vanilla masters getting a kill might be too much. If there's already 21 'powers' in the game, there really doesn't need to be more.
EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, you'd have to be very careful to design it in a way that wouldn't be easily broken with a massclaim. Just by claiming what powers each pair has, it would be pretty difficult to not break the game for town.
I personally think that vanilla masters getting a kill might be too much. If there's already 21 'powers' in the game, there really doesn't need to be more.
EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, you'd have to be very careful to design it in a way that wouldn't be easily broken with a massclaim. Just by claiming what powers each pair has, it would be pretty difficult to not break the game for town.
Well, the servants have their own powers too so I guess there's 28 powers in total...
Command spells can be used to change or block their servants' actions.
Powers won't affect alignment. A master can be scum while the servant is town or vice versa.
Command spells can be used to change or block their servants' actions.
Powers won't affect alignment. A master can be scum while the servant is town or vice versa.
The problem with having a lot of power is that you have to keep town from confirming too many people's alignments one way or the other. Massclaiming and directing night actions is very dangerous for scum if not properly planned against.
A game that prevents massclaim?
Actually, power role heavy games should be designed predominantly around a mass claim happening day one.
Maybe you could use Command Spells to gain an additional vote as well. I didn't like the idea of scum/mafia servant/master pairs, but it reminds me of Gil/Tokiomi so it would probably work. Maybe you could tone Berserker down by removing his ability to vote? But giving a really crazy role to make up for that. I think massclaiming on day one would be silly - think of the fate series where the Servants try to hide their Noble Phantasm for as long as they can to be able to launch surprise attacks and prevent counterstrategies.Navizel wrote:
So I've been thinking about this for a while.. How would a Holy Grail War Mafia work?
14 players - 11 town, 3 mafia?
There are 7 "Masters" and 7 "Servants". The 7 masters have three command spells which they can use to command their servants. Though after a master used all three, they wouldn't be able to control their servants anymore. This would make them a vanilla I guess? Another way to become vanilla is if one's servant is killed. And then I guess there's a qt link for each pairs.
Hmm.. maybe masters won't be VTs and they can still kill each other but they can't kill other servants because servants > mastersand then fucking Berserker is the most OP role because Noble Phantasm
What do you guys think?
I imagine this could actually be a really cool idea.
On another note, could you give an example of what a role might look like? Like one master and one servant example.
I'm thinking of preventing mass claims. In Fate series, revealing a servan't true name can put them in a disadvantage.
Instead of a scum-town pair, maybe I could just use the three to be scums and the rest are town.
I don't have any idea about the roles of a master and a servant yet. Only the three command spells one.
Maybe something like one of Shirou's command spell can suppress Saber's Noble Phantasm which is 1-shot vig or smth
Instead of a scum-town pair, maybe I could just use the three to be scums and the rest are town.
I don't have any idea about the roles of a master and a servant yet. Only the three command spells one.
Maybe something like one of Shirou's command spell can suppress Saber's Noble Phantasm which is 1-shot vig or smth
Why not put four scums, two pairs?
Also, an idea for roles of master and servant could be:
Here's an example with Berserker:
...Not gonna lie, I tried my best to balance this (with constant death looming and also having to exchange usage of the NP for your only chance to vote) but it still looks kinda OP lol. Anyway, those are some examples of how it could work. Balancing this would be pretty hard, I can already tell. Or I just suck at this.
Also, these were made assuming same-team pairs. Different team pairs would make some of this rather disastrous lol. What do you think?
Also, an idea for roles of master and servant could be:
You are Kotomine Kirei, Master from the Church, and an Executor. Your Servant is Assassin Hassan.
Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Church Protection - Once per game, you can not be nightkilled.
You are Assassin Hassan. Your Noble Phantasm is Division. Your Master is Kotomine Kirei.
Spy - Once per night, you may target a player. If that player performs a Night action, you will know which night action it was. If you get nightkilled, your Master will be informed of that action instead.
Division - If you are killed by any means other than lynching, you do not die; but your class, name, and Noble Phantasm will be made public. Does not work against Anti-Army or Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms.
Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Church Protection - Once per game, you can not be nightkilled.
You are Assassin Hassan. Your Noble Phantasm is Division. Your Master is Kotomine Kirei.
Spy - Once per night, you may target a player. If that player performs a Night action, you will know which night action it was. If you get nightkilled, your Master will be informed of that action instead.
Division - If you are killed by any means other than lynching, you do not die; but your class, name, and Noble Phantasm will be made public. Does not work against Anti-Army or Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms.
You are Kotomine Kirei, Master from the Church, and an Executor. Your Servant is Assassin Hassan.
Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Church Inheritance - You have one additional Command Spell.
You are Assassin Hassan. Your Noble Phantasm is Division. Your Master is Kotomine Kirei.
Infiltrate - Once per game, you may pick a player. If they are a Master, they'll be knocked out for the Day. If they are a Servant, learn all information about their role.
Division - If you are killed by any means other than lynching, you do not die; but your class, name, and Noble Phantasm will be made public. Does not work against Anti-Army or Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms.
^Alignment-specific abilities with non-alignment specific roles/NPs would prevent any significant massclaims. I could say I'm Assassin but they'd still not know whether I'm town or scum, even if they knew I'm Assassin Hassan. In the case of Division, even if my identity is compromised, my alignment remains a secret.Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Church Inheritance - You have one additional Command Spell.
You are Assassin Hassan. Your Noble Phantasm is Division. Your Master is Kotomine Kirei.
Infiltrate - Once per game, you may pick a player. If they are a Master, they'll be knocked out for the Day. If they are a Servant, learn all information about their role.
Division - If you are killed by any means other than lynching, you do not die; but your class, name, and Noble Phantasm will be made public. Does not work against Anti-Army or Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms.
Here's an example with Berserker:
You are Matou Kariya, representing the Matou family, for Sakura's sake. You are a Master. Your Servant is Berserker Lancelot.
Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Blade Wing Worms - Once per game, you can target a player. If they are a Master, they die. If they are a Servant, you die.
You are Berserker Lancelot. Your Noble Phantasm is Arondight. Your Master is Matou Kariya.
Mad Enhancement - You went Berserk when summoned. You can not vote.
Knight of Honor - Once per Day (either during the day or night), you can target a player. If they are a Master, nothing happens. If they are a Servant, gain the ability from their Noble Phantasm, until the start of the next Day. You can only use this ability once on each player.
For Someone's Glory - Your identity, abilities, and Noble Phantasm, can not be discerned by any kind of ability, until you die.
Arondight - Cancels For Someone's Glory and Knight of Honor for the rest of the game. Target two players. The first has their Noble Phantasm revealed, and is KO'd for the rest of the day. The second dies, along with your Master.
In this case, the only differences for the scum versions could be the following:Command Spells - You have three Command Spells. Use them wisely.
Blade Wing Worms - Once per game, you can target a player. If they are a Master, they die. If they are a Servant, you die.
You are Berserker Lancelot. Your Noble Phantasm is Arondight. Your Master is Matou Kariya.
Mad Enhancement - You went Berserk when summoned. You can not vote.
Knight of Honor - Once per Day (either during the day or night), you can target a player. If they are a Master, nothing happens. If they are a Servant, gain the ability from their Noble Phantasm, until the start of the next Day. You can only use this ability once on each player.
For Someone's Glory - Your identity, abilities, and Noble Phantasm, can not be discerned by any kind of ability, until you die.
Arondight - Cancels For Someone's Glory and Knight of Honor for the rest of the game. Target two players. The first has their Noble Phantasm revealed, and is KO'd for the rest of the day. The second dies, along with your Master.
- Kariya's ability is replaced with Crest Worms - You are weak. If your Servant uses an ability two days in a row, you die.
- Knight of Honor is replaced with Knight of Honor II - When an enemy Servant uses their Noble Phantasm on you, as long as it is an object, cancel their attack. Their Noble Phantasm is now yours, until you release it; it will then return to them. Does not work if you are already holding a Noble Phantasm.
- Noble Phantasm adjusted; Arondight - Cancels For Someone's Glory and Knight of Honor II for the rest of the game. Target two players. The first is KO'd, along with your Master. Their names and Noble Phantasms are revealed.
Also, these were made assuming same-team pairs. Different team pairs would make some of this rather disastrous lol. What do you think?
I don't think different alignment pairs would be a problem, that's where command seals could shine? well it comes down to whether you want mason pairs vs a scumteam or 2p neightbourhoods.
4 scum would be too much for a 14p game probably.
4 scum would be too much for a 14p game probably.
That looks good Tess. I think I would run Fate/Stay Night instead of Fate/Zero. Considering all the powers in the game, yes, it would be hard to balance. Each pair has a neighborhood btw.
I think it's going to be a flavor only reveal
I think it's going to be a flavor only reveal
If you need help balancing you can also contact me. Also stay night would probably be better, the servants there are more balanced imo (f/z berserker is fucking absurd).
@Drezi: I meant this specific setup wouldn't work for different-alignment pairs. Some pairs should always be the same alignment though, for example the Berserker pair. No matter which HGW you'd base it on, Berserker should always lose voting ability, which makes him highly dependent on his Master to achieve anything. Whereas a pair like Saber or Archer could do fine with different alignments, since those are always capable of indepedent action.
@Drezi: I meant this specific setup wouldn't work for different-alignment pairs. Some pairs should always be the same alignment though, for example the Berserker pair. No matter which HGW you'd base it on, Berserker should always lose voting ability, which makes him highly dependent on his Master to achieve anything. Whereas a pair like Saber or Archer could do fine with different alignments, since those are always capable of indepedent action.
Cool. I still have my League Upick so I don't want to worry about this for now.
Not sure if this is the best place to put this but:
Hi, I've been playing mafia for a few years. Just found out OSU has a mafia community. Looking forward to playing with you all.
Is there like, a skype group or something I can join? Or is it more of a 'refresh till a game appears' type thing? Thx
Hi, I've been playing mafia for a few years. Just found out OSU has a mafia community. Looking forward to playing with you all.
Is there like, a skype group or something I can join? Or is it more of a 'refresh till a game appears' type thing? Thx
Well currently we are having 2 games going at a time, so a new game wont open until one of those finish, good to know there's more people interested tho ^_^
does anyone still have the ISo generator