13:36 Mazzerin: super jump test
13:36 Mazzerin: if something plays well
13:36 *Mazzerin is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/706562 Spawn Of Possession - Apparition]
13:36 Mazzerin: redl this and try whathefuk diff
13:37 Mazzerin: its only 270 bpm singles
13:37 Mazzerin: 9 per group
13:37 Axarious: oh jeez 
13:37 Axarious: okies
13:37 Mazzerin: i guess you can alternate that
13:37 Mazzerin: since youre pro at that
13:37 Axarious: probably
13:37 Axarious: slow dl speed, 2 min
13:37 Mazzerin: i wanna know if it flows well
13:37 Mazzerin: it should be fine but really hard
13:37 Axarious: 11second drain 7*
13:37 Mazzerin: because of bpm
13:37 Axarious: lmao 
13:37 Mazzerin: LOL
13:40 Axarious: eh 
13:40 Axarious: not really
13:40 Axarious: movements are too circular
13:40 Axarious: too hard to snap when they're arranged like that
13:41 Mazzerin: welp it got dqd cause they used to be too sharp
13:41 Mazzerin: so im trying to keep it circular
13:41 Axarious: circular makes that movement so much harder
13:42 Mazzerin: hmm
13:42 Mazzerin: i see that up/down pattern always works
13:42 Mazzerin: i think the last one is the worst
13:42 Axarious: back and forths are 500% easiest
13:42 Axarious: easier*
13:42 Axarious: than squares arranged in a circle let's say
13:43 Mazzerin: ye the last one is retarded
13:43 Mazzerin: i can see you spinning around
13:44 Mazzerin: can you try the main diff till the first stream part?
13:44 Mazzerin: so like first 30~ seconds
13:44 Mazzerin: i remapped the jumps there too
13:45 Axarious: i can't od10
13:45 Axarious: lOl
13:46 Mazzerin: but is it fine to aim now?
13:46 Axarious: i don't know what it was before
13:46 Mazzerin: uhh what about without comparing
13:46 Mazzerin: does it play fine
13:46 Mazzerin: or is it retardedly hard
13:46 Mazzerin: to me its good
13:46 Axarious: i could point to some stuff in editor that's hard to play? 
13:46 Mazzerin: sure
13:47 Mazzerin: that other part is here 06:09:792 (1) -
13:47 Axarious: lmao no one will fc this ever
13:47 Axarious: 00:58:194 (5,1,2,1) - 
13:48 Mazzerin: what would be better?
13:48 Axarious: you could ctrl g 1/2 and that would be better
13:48 Mazzerin: if i ctrl g'd 00:58:319 (1,2) - ?
13:48 Axarious: yeah
13:48 Mazzerin: it would be easier to snap
13:48 Axarious: precisely
13:48 Axarious: it's hard as seen by 7odoa's pluto
13:48 Mazzerin: the small ones are fine i think
13:48 Mazzerin: its just the big ones
13:48 Axarious: ? 
13:49 Axarious: small ones? 
13:49 Mazzerin: jumps
13:49 Axarious: ah
13:49 Axarious: well
13:49 Axarious: 00:55:819 (2,3) - 
13:49 Mazzerin: 01:03:569 (1,2) -
13:49 Mazzerin: ctrl g too?
13:49 Axarious: no those are fine 
13:49 Axarious: but like
13:50 Axarious: circular movement 00:55:569 (1,2,3,4) - 
13:50 Axarious: very hard to play
13:50 Mazzerin: its funny because it got dqd for too many sharp angles
13:50 Mazzerin: ehhhh
13:50 Axarious: imo you're mapping this too hard ;;
13:50 Mazzerin: will have to fight them over some things
13:50 Mazzerin: fk
13:51 Axarious: i mean
13:51 Axarious: there are sharp angles
13:51 Axarious: but that doesn't mean they aren't allowed
13:51 Axarious: this 00:58:819 (2,3,4) - 
13:51 Axarious: 00:59:569 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - 
13:52 Axarious: these all carry momentum around a circle
13:53 Axarious: a good example of something that's much easier to hit but more spaced 
13:53 Axarious: 01:43:819 (2,3,4,5) - 
13:54 Mazzerin: LOL
13:54 Mazzerin: i made it all circular because i was told to
13:54 Mazzerin: i talked to asphyxia, yales about this
13:54 Mazzerin: they said its good like this
13:54 Mazzerin: eh
13:54 Mazzerin: and that part you linked
13:54 Mazzerin: was the "bad" part
13:54 Axarious: the last thing i linked? 
13:54 Mazzerin: yeah
13:55 Axarious: there's a reason as to why people can't play bd maps
13:55 Axarious: because squares which carry shit momentum
13:55 Axarious: circular doesn't necessarily mean ~flow~
13:55 Axarious: i don't even understand
13:55 Axarious: how are people supposed to hit that when it's nearly impossible to snap to them
13:56 Mazzerin: yeah thats how i feel too but only about ovals/lines
13:56 Axarious: a lot of players even say that they move their cursor in circles and spamming to hit squares @.@
13:56 Mazzerin: lines aer the worst
13:56 Axarious: oh really? 
13:56 Axarious: oh 
13:56 Axarious: if you're talking like
13:56 Axarious: three things arranged in a line?
13:56 Axarious: like kokou no sousei? 
13:56 Mazzerin: 3 is fine
13:56 Mazzerin: when its 4 its stupid
13:56 Axarious: oh 
13:56 Mazzerin: when its 5 its impossible
13:56 Mazzerin: i mean 3 is already kinda hard
13:57 Mazzerin: the worst parts in koko sosei is that
13:57 Mazzerin: double zigzag
13:57 Mazzerin: for me
13:57 Axarious: yeah same
13:57 Axarious: hardest to hit 
13:57 Mazzerin: when it goes left right and then randomly goes somewhere far away
13:57 Mazzerin: and does that again
13:57 Axarious: yep
13:57 Axarious: gross as fuck pattern
13:57 Axarious: one zigzag is bad enough
13:57 Axarious: and then it's ctrl h'd
13:57 Axarious: LOL 
13:58 Mazzerin: there are triangles that are cool there thats it
13:58 Mazzerin: i like triangles
13:58 Mazzerin: i think theyre the easiest
13:58 Mazzerin: thats why i form them mostly
13:58 Axarious: except in image mat
13:58 Mazzerin: idk i hit those too
13:58 Axarious: oh wtf
13:58 Axarious: i've hit them once lmao
13:58 Axarious: 02:00:069 (1,2,3,4,5) - 
13:58 Mazzerin: i tried it yesterday and it was easy o.O
13:58 Axarious: w.w
13:58 Axarious: bragging rights to triangle power
13:58 Mazzerin: i had that part as
13:59 Mazzerin: back and forth jumps
13:59 Mazzerin: doomsday said its handbreaking
13:59 Mazzerin: and said squares are better
13:59 Mazzerin: LOL
13:59 Mazzerin: fucking mouse
13:59 Axarious: okay uh i guess different players have different strengths
13:59 Axarious: a clockwise square like that to me is only doable by cookiezi
13:59 Axarious: LMAO 02:01:069 (1,2,3,4) - 
13:59 Axarious: i didn't even see this
13:59 Mazzerin: what does clock direction have to do with it
14:00 Mazzerin: hahahaha
14:00 Axarious: oh oops that's counter clockwise
14:00 Axarious: i can only do counter clock squares
14:00 Mazzerin: LOL
14:00 Mazzerin: why
14:00 Axarious: don't know
14:00 Mazzerin: how
14:00 Axarious: that's why my atama is HR
14:00 Mazzerin: i dont see how it matters
14:00 Mazzerin: how did you even notice
14:00 Mazzerin: a thing like that
14:01 Axarious: i think
14:01 Axarious: because of bd
14:01 Mazzerin: cant read it anymore?
14:01 Axarious: i can do the mittens HR which has counter clock but i can't hit them nomod
14:01 Axarious: i think i can't snap to clockwise squares
14:03 Mazzerin: are stars ok?
14:03 Mazzerin: they area fine for me
14:03 Axarious: i'm fine with stars
14:03 Axarious: just no circle movement pentagons pls
14:04 Axarious: but 
14:04 Axarious: i think a song like this
14:04 Axarious: wouldn't be fitting for stars
14:04 Axarious: okay
14:04 Axarious: 04:38:006 (2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - 
14:05 Axarious: whoever thinks circular patterns are easy
14:05 Mazzerin: LOL
14:05 Mazzerin: YES
14:05 Axarious: like
14:05 Mazzerin: I KNEW YOURE GONNA MENTION THAT
14:05 Axarious: who the fuck 
14:05 Mazzerin: i was actualy about to link it
14:05 Axarious: thinks this 
14:05 Axarious: is doable
14:05 Axarious: by any means
14:05 Axarious: this is why world wide choppers isn't fcable
14:05 Axarious: because of an expanding circle pattern at 130 1/4ths
14:05 Axarious: absolutely no one can snap to it
14:06 Axarious: and this one's larger + higher bpm
14:06 Axarious: and people expect that this is more flow than like
14:06 Axarious: fullscreen back and forths or something? lmaOOOOooo
14:06 Mazzerin: yeah
14:06 Mazzerin: youre the first one who understands me
14:06 Mazzerin: i thought im going mad
14:06 Axarious: i could handle like
14:06 Mazzerin: i had made it all jagged and and snappy before
14:07 Axarious: doomsday's argument before
14:07 Axarious: until that circle
14:07 Axarious: pattern*
14:07 Axarious: like HELL NO
14:07 Axarious: NO ONE
14:07 Axarious: EVER.
14:07 Axarious: WILL HIT THAT EVER
14:07 Axarious: 04:39:686 - 
14:07 Axarious: from this point until the kiai
14:08 Axarious: anyone who can do these so-called "flow" patterns
14:08 Axarious: is not human. 
14:08 Mazzerin: LOL
14:08 Axarious: like 
14:08 Axarious: 04:52:166 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 
14:08 Axarious: there are so many maps
14:09 Axarious: which show that patterns like these aren't very playable
14:09 Axarious: exact reason why gold dust DT is only done by rrtyui right now
14:09 Mazzerin: ive seen a lot of people hit that
14:09 Axarious: wow they're god wtf
14:09 Mazzerin: what do you suggest there?
14:09 Mazzerin: rafis hit it
14:10 Axarious: yeah, rafis is god.
14:10 Mazzerin: doomsday
14:10 Axarious: they aren't human man
14:10 Axarious: i'm telling you LOL 
14:11 Mazzerin: http://puu.sh/i1EhP/294399b4e1.jpg
14:11 Mazzerin: is this fine?
14:11 Mazzerin: in another spot
14:11 Axarious: which end does it start at
14:11 Axarious: top or left
14:11 Mazzerin: top
14:12 Axarious: that's more playable to me
14:12 Axarious: but idk about other people
14:14 Axarious: 07:06:379 (1,2,3) - no
14:14 Mazzerin: http://puu.sh/i1EAy/7fc2ae471b.jpg
14:14 Mazzerin: is this good?
14:14 Mazzerin: :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
14:15 Axarious: ehhh
14:15 Axarious: i don't know if that's hard or not
14:16 Axarious: it's comboable at the very least
14:16 Mazzerin: so its good i guess
14:17 Axarious: how did you manage to increase the sr
14:17 Axarious: @.@
14:17 Mazzerin: the new jumps on 270 part
14:17 Mazzerin: lol
14:17 Axarious: w.w
14:17 Axarious: imo the sliders are too fast
14:18 Mazzerin: thats why the jumps are big
14:18 Mazzerin: 04:52:166 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) -
14:18 Mazzerin: what do ith this
14:18 Mazzerin: if i change squares to up down or something
14:18 Mazzerin: its good?
14:19 Axarious: no idea
14:19 Axarious: i've never really seen a map this fast with this diff rating
14:19 Axarious: so i can't really say whether or not stuff is doable www
14:19 Mazzerin: omfg
14:19 Mazzerin: its not the jumps that are 8 stars
14:19 Mazzerin: its the couple of streams
14:19 Axarious: i know
14:19 Mazzerin: that has nothing to do with them
14:19 Mazzerin: the jumps are ez for you
14:20 Axarious: not really 
14:20 Mazzerin: yeah im not being serious but you know what i mean
14:21 Axarious: i don't think you need to change it actually
14:21 Axarious: it's only 250bpm there
14:21 Mazzerin: yeah i did anyways
14:22 Axarious: o
14:22 Mazzerin: i mean i want it to flow nicely
14:22 Mazzerin: ok sec ill reup
14:23 Axarious: okies
14:23 Mazzerin: and youll try the 270 part again
14:23 Mazzerin: uh,, main diff is 7,91 now
14:23 Mazzerin: shit
14:23 Mazzerin: LOL
14:23 Mazzerin: but its supposed to be better
14:23 Mazzerin: cuz up down instead of circular
14:23 Mazzerin: ok done now
14:24 Axarious: so it is _some_ of the jumps that add to difficulty
14:24 Axarious: lmao
14:24 Mazzerin: well, theyre not even 7 stars all of them summed up
14:24 Mazzerin: while solo is 7,6 alone ~
14:24 Mazzerin: idk how it works really
14:24 Mazzerin: lol
14:27 Axarious: i think it's nicer than what is was
14:27 Axarious: definitely
14:27 Mazzerin: nice
14:27 Mazzerin: is there any particular spot that is retarded
14:27 Mazzerin: or is it just hard and thats it?
14:27 Axarious: just hard