22:39 MasterSonic10: heyyyyy
22:39 ChuChuez: hi
22:39 *MasterSonic10 is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/704111 kors k x marasy8 - Play Time!! (Unofficial Title?)]
22:39 MasterSonic10: check it :3
22:40 ChuChuez: it has easier diffs now?
22:40 MasterSonic10: yee
22:40 ChuChuez: hype
22:41 MasterSonic10: ikr
22:42 ChuChuez: ill take a look at it after ctb wc is done
22:42 MasterSonic10: Sure
22:49 ChuChuez: ok
22:49 ChuChuez: ill take a look at it
22:49 MasterSonic10: Alrighty then
22:53 ChuChuez: the hd is a bit weird
22:55 ChuChuez: i think you should make the od on the whole mapset a bit higher
23:01 MasterSonic10: Eh
23:02 MasterSonic10: I dunno
23:02 MasterSonic10: Look at Usagi's Oboro
23:02 MasterSonic10: the hardest diff is at 8OD
23:02 MasterSonic10: or was it 7..?
23:03 ChuChuez: i think you should have these runs in the hd
23:03 ChuChuez: at 00:02:210
23:03 ChuChuez: 00:16:643 -
23:04 MasterSonic10: Hmm?
23:04 ChuChuez: just like
23:05 ChuChuez: a group of 3 notes in 1/4
23:05 MasterSonic10: here as well?
23:05 MasterSonic10: 00:07:399 -
23:05 ChuChuez: yes
23:05 ChuChuez: it doesnt really add to the diffeculty
23:06 ChuChuez: so it should be fine
23:06 MasterSonic10: mkay
23:06 ChuChuez: like
23:06 ChuChuez: in hd diffs
23:06 ChuChuez: it should be mainly 1/2
23:06 ChuChuez: with some 1/4 bursts
23:07 MasterSonic10: mkay
23:07 ChuChuez: 00:34:481 -
23:07 ChuChuez: whats the 1/4 notes there for?
23:08 MasterSonic10: hear in the background
23:08 MasterSonic10: um
23:08 MasterSonic10: It's less noticeable with my headset on, but I can still hear it
23:08 MasterSonic10: it's like this part 00:29:129 -
23:09 ChuChuez: idk if it should be there
23:09 ChuChuez: because its very hard to hear
23:10 MasterSonic10: :/
23:10 MasterSonic10: I could hear it fine when I play it
23:11 ChuChuez: its a bit hard for hd level
23:11 ChuChuez: maybe give it the same pattern as 00:29:129 -
23:12 MasterSonic10: eh, it'd change the pattern completely
23:14 MasterSonic10: Hmm..
23:14 MasterSonic10: well...
23:14 ChuChuez: im just not a fan of the pattern
23:14 ChuChuez: but i guess its ok
23:15 MasterSonic10: Mmh... I'll keep it for now
23:15 MasterSonic10: Again, I'll be getting modders sometime soon
23:17 ChuChuez: 00:35:129 -
23:18 ChuChuez: i think at 00:35:940 -
23:18 ChuChuez: it should stop going upwards
23:18 ChuChuez: because thats when the piano part ends
23:18 MasterSonic10: the piano stops yes
23:18 MasterSonic10: but then the purcussion takes over
23:18 MasterSonic10: percussion*
23:18 ChuChuez: yes
23:18 ChuChuez: so i dont think it should just be all stairs
23:19 MasterSonic10: I can
23:19 MasterSonic10: can't do something like this
23:19 MasterSonic10:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/316165223:19 ChuChuez: lol
23:20 ChuChuez: maybe something like this?
23:20 ChuChuez:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/316165923:22 MasterSonic10: it's hard when you have 2 people modding two seperate difficulties
23:23 MasterSonic10: hold on
23:23 ChuChuez: lol
23:26 MasterSonic10: mkay
23:26 MasterSonic10: I applied it
23:29 ChuChuez: 00:42:264 -
23:30 ChuChuez: i dont think this pattern matches the music
23:33 MasterSonic10: I know
23:33 MasterSonic10: but
23:33 MasterSonic10: I was told to tone it down
23:34 ChuChuez: you can have a 1/4 burst in there
23:34 ChuChuez: its not that hard
23:34 MasterSonic10: mkay
23:35 MasterSonic10: I did that to both sections
23:37 ChuChuez: 00:59:129 - should be a 1-3 chord
23:37 ChuChuez: because it has a different pitch from 00:58:886 - and 00:59:372 -
23:37 MasterSonic10: o ty
23:37 MasterSonic10: yee ik
23:38 ChuChuez: 01:06:102 -
23:38 ChuChuez: i dont think it should have 3 notes\
23:39 ChuChuez: because it doesnt have emphasis on the percussion like the ones after it
23:39 MasterSonic10: True.....
23:39 MasterSonic10: yeah
23:40 ChuChuez: 01:11:291 -
23:40 ChuChuez: the pattern here doesnt make much sense
23:41 MasterSonic10: How so?
23:41 ChuChuez: because the music doesnt really change
23:41 ChuChuez: but you use an entirely different pattern from before
23:41 MasterSonic10: I'm confused
23:41 MasterSonic10: the [14] jump is meant to like
23:42 MasterSonic10: not be with the pitch, but be with it
23:42 MasterSonic10: er....
23:42 ChuChuez: i meant after that
23:42 ChuChuez: the bit with the 1-3-4 chords
23:43 MasterSonic10: oh
23:43 MasterSonic10: it's the percussion
23:44 MasterSonic10: like
23:44 MasterSonic10: eh....
23:44 ChuChuez: i think you should keep using the pattern before it
23:45 ChuChuez: because the percussion isnt really the focus
23:45 MasterSonic10: no...
23:45 MasterSonic10: it's not the percussion
23:45 MasterSonic10: uh... how do I put this
23:46 MasterSonic10: obviously I can't put it like this
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/316177823:48 ChuChuez: idk
23:48 ChuChuez: i dont know how to say it
23:48 MasterSonic10: Yeah neither can I
23:48 MasterSonic10: Uh.. sorry...
23:48 MasterSonic10: just feeling stressted out since switching here and there
23:49 ChuChuez: i understand
23:49 ChuChuez: my reasoning is that 01:01:237 - and 01:11:291 - sound pretty much the same
23:49 ChuChuez: so the same or a similar pattern should be used
23:50 MasterSonic10: wait
23:50 MasterSonic10: at this part
23:50 MasterSonic10: 01:11:778 -
23:50 MasterSonic10: there's um
23:50 MasterSonic10: you know, added percussion
23:50 ChuChuez: i know
23:51 MasterSonic10: I could try this..?
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/316180823:51 ChuChuez: but i dont think the percussion is significant enough for the pattern to change that much
23:51 ChuChuez: just keep it the way it is now
23:51 MasterSonic10: In that picture or
23:51 MasterSonic10: before
23:51 ChuChuez: because both are pretty similar
23:52 ChuChuez: just ignore it for now
23:52 ChuChuez: and come back to it later
23:52 MasterSonic10: Mkay
23:53 ChuChuez: 01:16:643 -
23:53 MasterSonic10: it's for PP
23:53 ChuChuez: emphasis on 01:16:643 - and 01:17:291 -
23:53 MasterSonic10: don't ask
23:53 ChuChuez: lol
23:53 MasterSonic10: oh
23:53 MasterSonic10: okay lol
23:53 ChuChuez: 01:17:291 - should have a chord on it
23:54 ChuChuez: and really
23:54 MasterSonic10: Yeah
23:54 MasterSonic10:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/316182223:54 ChuChuez: i think the 3 note chords are a bit overkill
23:54 MasterSonic10: it's for the PP pls
23:54 ChuChuez: lol
23:54 MasterSonic10: it's an easy pattern
23:54 ChuChuez: who plays 3* maps for pp
23:54 MasterSonic10: lmao
23:54 MasterSonic10: nevermind
23:55 ChuChuez: theres easier options than this
23:55 ChuChuez: with higher stars
23:55 MasterSonic10: I know I know
23:55 ChuChuez: lol
23:55 MasterSonic10: it's.... it's different
23:55 ChuChuez: just dont map stuff with starcount in mind
23:55 MasterSonic10: Nah
23:55 ChuChuez: it usually ends up making the map worse
23:55 MasterSonic10: I trying not to though
23:55 MasterSonic10: I know
23:55 MasterSonic10: This one is different
23:56 MasterSonic10: um
23:56 MasterSonic10: a reason
23:56 ChuChuez: well
23:56 ChuChuez: 01:17:940 - maybe a extra note here?
23:57 MasterSonic10: Added
23:58 ChuChuez: 01:20:535 - have a extra note for each ln to represent the percussion?
23:59 ChuChuez: but you dont have to because there isnt as much percussion on these lns
23:59 MasterSonic10: wait
23:59 MasterSonic10: yeah
23:59 ChuChuez: both are ok tbh
00:09 MasterSonic10: well
00:10 MasterSonic10: I'll
00:10 MasterSonic10: oh
00:10 MasterSonic10: okay
00:10 MasterSonic10: lol
00:10 ChuChuez: 01:21:832 -
00:10 ChuChuez: some of the notes in this section should be chords
00:11 MasterSonic10: I know then
00:11 ChuChuez: ?
00:11 MasterSonic10: Oh er..
00:11 MasterSonic10: what notes to like
00:11 MasterSonic10: put chords on
00:12 MasterSonic10: unless, you want to show me
00:12 ChuChuez: 01:24:102 -
00:12 ChuChuez: something like this
00:12 ChuChuez: because you can tell that there is more than 1 note in the piano
00:13 MasterSonic10: yeah
00:13 MasterSonic10: I figured as much
00:13 ChuChuez: most of them are pretty obvious
00:13 MasterSonic10: yeah
00:14 ChuChuez: tell me when your done with that
00:14 MasterSonic10: Done
00:14 MasterSonic10: lol
00:14 ChuChuez: ok
00:14 MasterSonic10: I should probably fix that in MX if it's like that as well
00:14 ChuChuez: 01:33:021 -
00:15 ChuChuez: just put the 1/4 run there
00:17 MasterSonic10: yee okay
00:18 ChuChuez: i think you dont really use 1/4 bursts that much
00:18 ChuChuez: or is it just this map
00:18 MasterSonic10: just this map lol
00:19 ChuChuez: 01:34:805 -
00:19 ChuChuez: why are these just randomly become lns
00:19 MasterSonic10: the percussion in the background
00:19 MasterSonic10: they're prolonged a little more
00:20 MasterSonic10: if you didn't notice, that section of the song is like
00:20 MasterSonic10: mix between the background and melody
00:20 ChuChuez: hmmm
00:21 ChuChuez: 01:35:940 -
00:21 ChuChuez: this is louder than the lns
00:21 ChuChuez: so would this be a ln?
00:22 MasterSonic10: oh, true
00:22 ChuChuez: idk what you want to do with it
00:24 ChuChuez: 01:35:940 - maybe put a ln in column 4 for these chords?
00:24 ChuChuez: because its the same duration
00:24 ChuChuez: just louder
00:27 MasterSonic10: yee okay
00:27 MasterSonic10: pls be a little quick though
00:28 MasterSonic10: wait why did I say that
00:28 MasterSonic10: I dunno
00:28 MasterSonic10: I feel like I need to rush
00:28 ChuChuez: ?
00:28 ChuChuez: 01:42:589 -
00:28 MasterSonic10: lol
00:29 ChuChuez: i think the lns in this section should be a full beat
00:30 ChuChuez: the chorus after that is fine
00:30 ChuChuez: 02:21:508 -
00:31 ChuChuez: theres no reason why the note on the 1/2s should not be in the 2nd column
00:31 MasterSonic10: Wat
00:31 MasterSonic10: ?
00:32 MasterSonic10: and um
00:32 MasterSonic10: that 01:42:589 -
00:32 MasterSonic10: um
00:32 MasterSonic10: omg hold on xD
00:32 MasterSonic10: okay
00:32 MasterSonic10: made the LN's 1 beat each
00:33 MasterSonic10: and what do you mean by this one?
00:33 MasterSonic10: 02:21:508 -
00:33 ChuChuez: because when you had this theme
00:33 ChuChuez: you would normally go to the 2nd column
00:33 MasterSonic10: oh
00:33 ChuChuez: but here you randomly go to the 3rd and 1st column
00:33 MasterSonic10: well
00:33 MasterSonic10: just for difference lol
00:33 MasterSonic10: well
00:33 MasterSonic10: jacks
00:33 ChuChuez: 1/2 jacks
00:33 ChuChuez: lol
00:34 MasterSonic10: yes
00:34 MasterSonic10: lol
00:34 ChuChuez: is that even a jack
00:34 MasterSonic10: not really jacks but
00:34 MasterSonic10: just for difference
00:34 ChuChuez: 02:22:318 -
00:34 ChuChuez: i think the run should start on column 4
00:34 ChuChuez: and the chord should be 1-2
00:35 ChuChuez: because the chord after that represents the same type of percussion
00:35 ChuChuez: and is also a 1-2 chord
00:35 MasterSonic10: right
00:36 ChuChuez: 02:26:048 -
00:36 ChuChuez: note in 3rd column
00:37 ChuChuez: same reason as the last one
00:37 MasterSonic10: ok
00:37 ChuChuez: 02:27:994 -
00:37 ChuChuez: maybe you should make this a 1/4 stream
00:38 ChuChuez: where it goes 13241324ect.
00:38 MasterSonic10: mhm
00:38 ChuChuez: because it speedds up from the bit before it
00:39 ChuChuez: and its more suitable than 1/2 chords
00:39 MasterSonic10: mm
00:39 MasterSonic10: Yeah
00:39 ChuChuez: and for the end
00:40 ChuChuez: theres a similar section in the middle of the song
00:40 ChuChuez: but you dont use lns for it
00:40 MasterSonic10: Hmm?
00:40 ChuChuez: i think you should either remove the lns
00:40 ChuChuez: or change the bit in the middle to have the same type of lns
00:41 MasterSonic10: I'm sorta confused
00:41 MasterSonic10: oh
00:41 MasterSonic10: ohhh
00:41 MasterSonic10: wait no
00:41 MasterSonic10: can you well, link it?
00:42 ChuChuez: 01:21:832 - this sections is similar to 01:21:832 -
00:42 ChuChuez: i mean
00:42 ChuChuez: 02:42:264 -
00:42 ChuChuez: but the ending has lns
00:42 ChuChuez: and the middle doesnt
00:42 MasterSonic10: oh
00:42 MasterSonic10: Ah
00:42 MasterSonic10: Cannu said that
00:43 MasterSonic10: um
00:43 MasterSonic10: oh
00:43 MasterSonic10: That
00:43 MasterSonic10: omg I forgot hold on
00:43 MasterSonic10: oh right
00:43 MasterSonic10: the ending of diffs usually foreshadow the diff next up
00:44 ChuChuez: hmmm
00:44 ChuChuez: i know what your talking about
00:44 ChuChuez: but idk if its really really matters
00:45 ChuChuez: just checking that theory right now
00:46 ChuChuez: well
00:46 ChuChuez: its kind of true
00:46 ChuChuez: like
00:46 MasterSonic10: mkay
00:46 ChuChuez: aiae mx ending is very similar to the difficulty of aiae sc
00:46 MasterSonic10: I see
00:46 ChuChuez: but aiae hd ending is nowhere near as hard as anything in aiae mx
00:47 MasterSonic10: :/
00:47 MasterSonic10: Again, I dunno
00:47 ChuChuez: well
00:47 ChuChuez: thats about all there is to look at right now
00:47 MasterSonic10: Alright
00:47 ChuChuez: ill take a look at the other diffs some other time
00:47 MasterSonic10: Alright, thanks