Different times, different people. Otherwise I doubt they'd ban Minecraft.Aurani wrote:
Refer to the post above, mate.
It's like claiming that people who glorify Stalin are any different than the ones who lived during his lifetime.
I can't say they've become better, but I can be certain that most of the people you are judging on historical events have changed in the sense that they are now dead. I just find it extreme that you're calling Turkey out over hypocrisy for completely different things. Even if at their core they're mongoloid, invasive barbarians, you can't judge the people of today for actions of the past. That's on par with holding today's white populace accountable for black slavery in the 1800s.Aurani wrote:
All I'm saying is that claiming that the people might have "changed" or "bettered" is very much naive thinking.
you're preaching a bunch of uneducated white peopleAurani wrote:
I never said such a thing. Don't put things like that into my mouth. I'm not claiming today's populace of Turkey is accountable for the Armenian Genocide, but they sure as Hell support it, if even subtly. THAT is what the crux of my post above was. I can't blame them for what their grandfathers and great grandfathers have done, but I CAN if they "cheer" for such past actions.
I still remember a poll that was conducted in Turkey around 2012 (don't quote me on that, my memory is fuzzy as for the exact details such as the date) showed that three fourths of the people there consider Ataturk a hero of the country for "removing the Armenian threat". Now, focus on the last sentence - they worship that person not only for "modernising" Turkey, but for actually brutally murdering a whole ethnic group.
The latter part of my previous post was that they aren't alone in that. EVERY country has those kind of people, but in some, like Turkey - as taken in the example, they are figuratively covering their own feces and primal instincts with social facades, and that Minecraft scandal is merely one of many.
All hail our great Lord Niggercum! Fuck the whites, throw off the shackles of oppression and conquer the world!Choofers wrote:
you're preaching a bunch of uneducated white people
What thing? I said a few things in there so it's hard to pin that down.Aurani wrote:
I never said such a thing. Don't put things like that into my mouth.
I'm not claiming today's populace of Turkey is accountable for the Armenian Genocide,I didn't really say that either, but you cleared up your point a whole lot thanks to that.
but they sure as Hell support it, if even subtly.You sure about that?
THAT is what the crux of my post above was. I can't blame them for what their grandfathers and great grandfathers have done, but I CAN if they "cheer" for such past actions.Fair enough
I still remember a poll that was conducted in Turkey around 2012 (don't quote me on that, my memory is fuzzy as for the exact details such as the date) showed that three fourths of the people there consider Ataturk a hero of the country for "removing the Armenian threat". Now, focus on the last sentence - they worship that person not only for "modernising" Turkey, but for actually brutally murdering a whole ethnic group.Yes, and I'm sure people affirm Lincoln ended slavery knowing full well all the details behind the Civil War. You see, if I was in charge of propaganda and nationalism was my thing, I'd know full well those numbers could easily be bullshit. That's statistics. Now, if you told me that you know a bunch of Turkish people and that their character lines up pretty well with what you've described me, I'd buy it.
The latter part of my previous post was that they aren't alone in that. EVERY country has those kind of people, but in some, like Turkey - as taken in the example, they are figuratively covering their own feces and primal instincts with social facades, and that Minecraft scandal is merely one of many.I can see that odd logic there but that only holds if the same nationalists were the ones banning video games.
Woah, the fuck?Frostei wrote:
Click hereAutoMedic wrote:
Woah, the fuck?
That is like literally saying that you need proof that most North Americans dislike Russians, or that Serbs dislike Balkan kebab.Brian OA wrote:
You see Nancy, I'm not going to judge a whole bunch of people even if they did support Ataturk the Mass Murderer because I doubt most of them even see him the way you do. I know what it's like to sit in a history class and have your teacher ramble on about how justice was always on your country's side while holding back those little bits about who threw the first punch because it was "total chaos" or "there were no witnesses."
Unless you could prove that they all do indeed hate Armenia and support Turkleton knowing full well what he did.
You do that one more time, I'll fucking rip your guts outTrash Boat wrote:
I never knew you were that COLD, Frostei.
Don't forget to fuck them. You can't bear my children if you don't wish to rape Boat.AutoMedic wrote:
You do that one more time, I'll fucking rip your guts out
Deal breaker.Aurani wrote:
You can't bear my children if you don't wish to rape Boat.AutoMedic wrote:
You do that one more time, I'll fucking rip your guts out
Speak for yourself.B1rd wrote:
All of this sodomistic speech is absolutely disgusting.
What a lovely butt you have there - it would be a shame if someone were to sodomize it.B1rd wrote:
All of this sodomistic speech is absolutely disgusting.
Riince wrote:
kuvster a rank 22k player got a 430pp play because loltouchscreen
and tom94 is defending him on his ask.fm because "it was hard"
newsflash
its not supposed to be 'hard' for a rank 22k player to get a 400pp score
its not
supposed
to be
possible
but its ok because tom94 knows how hard a touchscreen is to play with, so what if the score is impossible even for tablet/mouse players 100x better than him
of course i realize theres nothing to be done about it because he probably didnt hack, just venting
Diamondsolivia272 wrote:
Do you know what else is >hard<?
But werent TAG4 maps "unranked" for the same reason? Talk about being a hypocryte...Riince wrote:
kuvster a rank 22k player got a 430pp play because loltouchscreen
and tom94 is defending him on his ask.fm because "it was hard"
newsflash
its not supposed to be 'hard' for a rank 22k player to get a 400pp score
its not
supposed
to be
possible
but its ok because tom94 knows how hard a touchscreen is to play with, so what if the score is impossible even for tablet/mouse players 100x better than kuvster
of course i realize theres nothing to be done about it because he probably didnt hack, just venting
flawed as fuck logic ignoring my point entirely/10Kheldragar wrote:
Go buy a touchscreen and pratice for hours everyday and play granat DT 2000 times and then come back, Riince.
You can be different skill levels with different input methods. Stop being so jealous of what other people can do.Riince wrote:
flawed as fuck logic ignoring my point entirely/10Kheldragar wrote:
Go buy a touchscreen and pratice for hours everyday and play granat DT 2000 times and then come back, Riince.
Oh, don't worry, I'll fuck you gently with my off-hand.Brian OA wrote:
There's this special kind of fucking I picked up during my trip to Canada called fuck off
Memorisation can be a skill, and if he wants to put untold hours into one map, then he deserves the pp. He's not going to be making those once a day.Riince wrote:
the point is you dont need skill if you can memorize, but it doesnt work that way with tablet/mouse, you cant just memorize, you have to actually be able to execute movements lengthwise not just remember where to touch with your finger. you can't brute force that if the map is way out of your league.
i have several friends who have done similar things, even one who played four dimensions fully around 1000 times with similar pp to mr touchscreen, and his best play on it is.. 40% with nofail. because the map is just too hard, no amount of memorizing fixes that unless you use a touchscreen.Kheldragar wrote:
Memorisation can be a skill, and if he wants to put untold hours into one map, then he deserves the pp. He's not going to be making those once a day.Riince wrote:
the point is you dont need skill if you can memorize, but it doesnt work that way with tablet/mouse, you cant just memorize, you have to actually be able to execute movements lengthwise not just remember where to touch with your finger. you can't brute force that if the map is way out of your league.
I'm saying you can't compare 4D to Granat.Riince wrote:
and the guy im talking about isnt even a touchscreen player, seriously now, you're just agreeing with me at this point, the guy im talking about didnt use touchscreen, why couldnt he get the epic play on a stream map with memorizing?|
How does that even workAurani wrote:
Oh, don't worry, I'll fuck you gently with my off-hand.Brian OA wrote:
There's this special kind of fucking I picked up during my trip to Canada called fuck off
It doesntBrian OA wrote:
How does that even work
Well dammit, now I have to resize it. Again.Frostei wrote:
Click here
Riince wrote:
yes because a mouse/tablet player of kuvsters level couldnt dt granat OR fc freedom dive for the same reason of it being way too hard, but with a touchscreen and enough memorizing can at least do 1 for similar amounts of pp, which is the main linking factor between the 2 maps here.
Everything works when you're on an acid trip, mate.Brian OA wrote:
How does that even work
And do you ever wonder why it shouldn't be possible with large amounts of hard work? Is it like how we're not allowed to have 600+ pp scores rip _index 2015?Riince wrote:
doesnt matter how -hard- it is for me to do, it -shouldnt be possible- for me to set a score worth that much for at least another year or 2, regardless of how much i spam a map where the jumps are trivial because i dont have to keep my hand on the playfield.
PfffftchhhhhahahhehehapffttchhRiince wrote:
doesnt matter how -hard- it is .
small circles are currently broken, thats no secret, a play being overweighted isnt the fault of the player or equipment.Kheldragar wrote:
And do you ever wonder why it shouldn't be possible? Is it like how we're not allowed to have 600+ pp scores rip _index 2015?Riince wrote:
doesnt matter how -hard- it is for me to do, it -shouldnt be possible- for me to set a score worth that much for at least another year or 2, regardless of how much i spam a map where the jumps are trivial because i dont have to keep my hand on the playfield.
i know context is hard for finns, but please tryolivia272 wrote:
PfffftchhhhhahahhehehapffttchhRiince wrote:
doesnt matter how -hard- it is .
not really, dt is broken all-around, glad we agreed on something thoughKheldragar wrote:
high 4 star + dt excluded.
I'm not going to call Gangsta DT, or remote control DT broken; I'm going to call daidai genome and koigokoro broken.Riince wrote:
not really, dt is broken all-around, glad we agreed on something thoughKheldragar wrote:
high 4 star + dt excluded.
Who are you and why are you in our collab.FuZ38100 wrote:
Now kiss
remote control is absolutely broken, gangsta dt would be broken if anyone could actually do it, any map where most of the difficulty is contained in one small section but it still gets the length/acc bonus that adds as if the whole map is that difficult is fundamentally broken.Kheldragar wrote:
I'm not going to call Gangsta DT, or remote control DT broken; I'm going to call daidai genome and koigokoro broken.
Because every one of those also includes a chance to miss even if it's not as high as the difficult section? If you stripped out remote control except for its hard parts, how much less pp would it give?Riince wrote:
remote control is absolutely broken, gangsta dt would be broken if anyone could actually do it, any map where most of the difficulty is contained in one small section but it still gets the length/acc bonus that adds as if the whole map is that difficult is fundamentally broken.Kheldragar wrote:
I'm not going to call Gangsta DT, or remote control DT broken; I'm going to call daidai genome and koigokoro broken.
theres only about 15 notes on remote control that are difficult, and for some players, the anti-jumps at the beginning as well. why should it even count hundreds of objects towards the pp and star rating?
I wanted to look cool like all of you, i hope i'm doing it rightKheldragar wrote:
Who are you and why are you in our collab.FuZ38100 wrote:
Now kiss
It's just me and you now. teheFuZ38100 wrote:
wanted to look cool like all of you, i hope i'm doing it right
I'm suspect of this and have no way of seeing if it's true or not.Riince wrote:
very little, and the point is even if the 'joke easy' parts of remote control in particular which is pretty much everything in the middle, was suddenly changed to be extremely difficult but not quite as hard as the end, the map would still give the same pp,
the system only cares about the hardest part of the map. that's why in this map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/29157 the hour marathon is exactly the same star diff as the hardest standalone song.Kheldragar wrote:
I'm suspect of this and have no way of seeing if it's true or not.Riince wrote:
very little, and the point is even if the 'joke easy' parts of remote control in particular which is pretty much everything in the middle, was suddenly changed to be extremely difficult but not quite as hard as the end, the map would still give the same pp,
I'm not sure about that "no increase in pp" part. I think it would still increase the pp gains, even if by some small amount. Look at "Battle for everyone's souls" vs Koigokoro. I think souls peaks at a far harder difficulty than Koigokoro yet it gives less pp for a higher acc since the first 400 combo are almost trivial. I can't speak for DT maps I haven't played.Riince wrote:
so even if you made that part 2 times harder, there would be no gain on star rating or pp.
It's a Finnish song.Kheldragar wrote:
Listen to this amazing music.
Exactly what she said. Thanks m8olivia272 wrote:
He wrote "places and countries such as...".
Because those pirates don't need any more ego boost, that's why.Aurani wrote:
Don't leech off of her. It was still logically inconsistent. Just because it was correct, doesn't mean it makes sense. Why the shit did you write London and not Great Britain, if you named COUNTRIES after that?