High carbon steelolivia272 wrote:
Do you know what else is >hard<?
Diamondsolivia272 wrote:
Do you know what else is >hard<?
But werent TAG4 maps "unranked" for the same reason? Talk about being a hypocryte...Riince wrote:
kuvster a rank 22k player got a 430pp play because loltouchscreen
and tom94 is defending him on his ask.fm because "it was hard"
newsflash
its not supposed to be 'hard' for a rank 22k player to get a 400pp score
its not
supposed
to be
possible
but its ok because tom94 knows how hard a touchscreen is to play with, so what if the score is impossible even for tablet/mouse players 100x better than kuvster
of course i realize theres nothing to be done about it because he probably didnt hack, just venting
flawed as fuck logic ignoring my point entirely/10Kheldragar wrote:
Go buy a touchscreen and pratice for hours everyday and play granat DT 2000 times and then come back, Riince.
You can be different skill levels with different input methods. Stop being so jealous of what other people can do.Riince wrote:
flawed as fuck logic ignoring my point entirely/10Kheldragar wrote:
Go buy a touchscreen and pratice for hours everyday and play granat DT 2000 times and then come back, Riince.
Oh, don't worry, I'll fuck you gently with my off-hand.Brian OA wrote:
There's this special kind of fucking I picked up during my trip to Canada called fuck off
Memorisation can be a skill, and if he wants to put untold hours into one map, then he deserves the pp. He's not going to be making those once a day.Riince wrote:
the point is you dont need skill if you can memorize, but it doesnt work that way with tablet/mouse, you cant just memorize, you have to actually be able to execute movements lengthwise not just remember where to touch with your finger. you can't brute force that if the map is way out of your league.
i have several friends who have done similar things, even one who played four dimensions fully around 1000 times with similar pp to mr touchscreen, and his best play on it is.. 40% with nofail. because the map is just too hard, no amount of memorizing fixes that unless you use a touchscreen.Kheldragar wrote:
Memorisation can be a skill, and if he wants to put untold hours into one map, then he deserves the pp. He's not going to be making those once a day.Riince wrote:
the point is you dont need skill if you can memorize, but it doesnt work that way with tablet/mouse, you cant just memorize, you have to actually be able to execute movements lengthwise not just remember where to touch with your finger. you can't brute force that if the map is way out of your league.
I'm saying you can't compare 4D to Granat.Riince wrote:
and the guy im talking about isnt even a touchscreen player, seriously now, you're just agreeing with me at this point, the guy im talking about didnt use touchscreen, why couldnt he get the epic play on a stream map with memorizing?|
How does that even workAurani wrote:
Oh, don't worry, I'll fuck you gently with my off-hand.Brian OA wrote:
There's this special kind of fucking I picked up during my trip to Canada called fuck off
It doesntBrian OA wrote:
How does that even work
Well dammit, now I have to resize it. Again.Frostei wrote:
Click here
Riince wrote:
yes because a mouse/tablet player of kuvsters level couldnt dt granat OR fc freedom dive for the same reason of it being way too hard, but with a touchscreen and enough memorizing can at least do 1 for similar amounts of pp, which is the main linking factor between the 2 maps here.
Everything works when you're on an acid trip, mate.Brian OA wrote:
How does that even work
And do you ever wonder why it shouldn't be possible with large amounts of hard work? Is it like how we're not allowed to have 600+ pp scores rip _index 2015?Riince wrote:
doesnt matter how -hard- it is for me to do, it -shouldnt be possible- for me to set a score worth that much for at least another year or 2, regardless of how much i spam a map where the jumps are trivial because i dont have to keep my hand on the playfield.
PfffftchhhhhahahhehehapffttchhRiince wrote:
doesnt matter how -hard- it is .
small circles are currently broken, thats no secret, a play being overweighted isnt the fault of the player or equipment.Kheldragar wrote:
And do you ever wonder why it shouldn't be possible? Is it like how we're not allowed to have 600+ pp scores rip _index 2015?Riince wrote:
doesnt matter how -hard- it is for me to do, it -shouldnt be possible- for me to set a score worth that much for at least another year or 2, regardless of how much i spam a map where the jumps are trivial because i dont have to keep my hand on the playfield.
i know context is hard for finns, but please tryolivia272 wrote:
PfffftchhhhhahahhehehapffttchhRiince wrote:
doesnt matter how -hard- it is .
not really, dt is broken all-around, glad we agreed on something thoughKheldragar wrote:
high 4 star + dt excluded.
I'm not going to call Gangsta DT, or remote control DT broken; I'm going to call daidai genome and koigokoro broken.Riince wrote:
not really, dt is broken all-around, glad we agreed on something thoughKheldragar wrote:
high 4 star + dt excluded.
Who are you and why are you in our collab.FuZ38100 wrote:
Now kiss
remote control is absolutely broken, gangsta dt would be broken if anyone could actually do it, any map where most of the difficulty is contained in one small section but it still gets the length/acc bonus that adds as if the whole map is that difficult is fundamentally broken.Kheldragar wrote:
I'm not going to call Gangsta DT, or remote control DT broken; I'm going to call daidai genome and koigokoro broken.
Because every one of those also includes a chance to miss even if it's not as high as the difficult section? If you stripped out remote control except for its hard parts, how much less pp would it give?Riince wrote:
remote control is absolutely broken, gangsta dt would be broken if anyone could actually do it, any map where most of the difficulty is contained in one small section but it still gets the length/acc bonus that adds as if the whole map is that difficult is fundamentally broken.Kheldragar wrote:
I'm not going to call Gangsta DT, or remote control DT broken; I'm going to call daidai genome and koigokoro broken.
theres only about 15 notes on remote control that are difficult, and for some players, the anti-jumps at the beginning as well. why should it even count hundreds of objects towards the pp and star rating?