Different times, different people. Otherwise I doubt they'd ban Minecraft.Aurani wrote:
Refer to the post above, mate.
It's like claiming that people who glorify Stalin are any different than the ones who lived during his lifetime.
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The inherent factor here is that many people were (and are being) taught to hate others, based on the past. It runs in the family. Claiming that Japanese have changed as a people would be a lie, a big one. Do you REALLY think Japan wants to be in NATO? Do you really think the Japanese people have forgotten those nukes? They will take the first opportunity they can to backstab USA when it gets weaker. Same goes for every other country and its people.
Hatred is a simple emotion, yet hard to root out.
Hatred is a simple emotion, yet hard to root out.
I wouldn't disagree to backstabbing the US.
All I'm saying is that claiming that the people might have "changed" or "bettered" is very much naive thinking. The masses are incredibly easy to manipulate and no country in the world is innocent in that. The ugly thing about it is that simple-minded people are prone to it and no matter how good you might be, it WILL awaken your basic instincts when the time comes.
Germany can't be taken as an example of it anymore, as they have gotten more politically intelligent and are now conquering Europe by the force of economy, rather than outright war, but just take a more peaceful and "neutral" country for example - Sweden. It's a democratic country, no? Its people are prosperous and mostly content with the current state of affairs, apart from the kebab problem, but put that aside. Can you bring yourself to tell me that if Russia were to weaken completely along with the rest of Europe, they wouldn't want revenge for the failure of Gustav Adolf and the eventual disgrace they experienced in the immediate aftermath?
You have clearly skipped your psychology classes if you believe that a person holds no beliefs, even if buried deep, deep inside them, of their country's territorial expansion rights. People can appear civilised, but the unshakable truth is that only a very, very tiny fraction of the whole populace is truly neutral in that regard, and the rest are just putting up a social facade.
Germany can't be taken as an example of it anymore, as they have gotten more politically intelligent and are now conquering Europe by the force of economy, rather than outright war, but just take a more peaceful and "neutral" country for example - Sweden. It's a democratic country, no? Its people are prosperous and mostly content with the current state of affairs, apart from the kebab problem, but put that aside. Can you bring yourself to tell me that if Russia were to weaken completely along with the rest of Europe, they wouldn't want revenge for the failure of Gustav Adolf and the eventual disgrace they experienced in the immediate aftermath?
You have clearly skipped your psychology classes if you believe that a person holds no beliefs, even if buried deep, deep inside them, of their country's territorial expansion rights. People can appear civilised, but the unshakable truth is that only a very, very tiny fraction of the whole populace is truly neutral in that regard, and the rest are just putting up a social facade.
I can't say they've become better, but I can be certain that most of the people you are judging on historical events have changed in the sense that they are now dead. I just find it extreme that you're calling Turkey out over hypocrisy for completely different things. Even if at their core they're mongoloid, invasive barbarians, you can't judge the people of today for actions of the past. That's on par with holding today's white populace accountable for black slavery in the 1800s.Aurani wrote:
All I'm saying is that claiming that the people might have "changed" or "bettered" is very much naive thinking.
heil hitlerKheldragar wrote:
The Japanese involved in WWII aren't even alive anymore so why are you treating the country like those people are still in charge? Same goes for Germany too.
I never said such a thing. Don't put things like that into my mouth. I'm not claiming today's populace of Turkey is accountable for the Armenian Genocide, but they sure as Hell support it, if even subtly. THAT is what the crux of my post above was. I can't blame them for what their grandfathers and great grandfathers have done, but I CAN if they "cheer" for such past actions.
I still remember a poll that was conducted in Turkey around 2012 (don't quote me on that, my memory is fuzzy as for the exact details such as the date) showed that three fourths of the people there consider Ataturk a hero of the country for "removing the Armenian threat". Now, focus on the last sentence - they worship that person not only for "modernising" Turkey, but for actually brutally murdering a whole ethnic group.
The latter part of my previous post was that they aren't alone in that. EVERY country has those kind of people, but in some, like Turkey - as taken in the example, they are figuratively covering their own feces and primal instincts with social facades, and that Minecraft scandal is merely one of many.
I still remember a poll that was conducted in Turkey around 2012 (don't quote me on that, my memory is fuzzy as for the exact details such as the date) showed that three fourths of the people there consider Ataturk a hero of the country for "removing the Armenian threat". Now, focus on the last sentence - they worship that person not only for "modernising" Turkey, but for actually brutally murdering a whole ethnic group.
The latter part of my previous post was that they aren't alone in that. EVERY country has those kind of people, but in some, like Turkey - as taken in the example, they are figuratively covering their own feces and primal instincts with social facades, and that Minecraft scandal is merely one of many.
you're preaching a bunch of uneducated white peopleAurani wrote:
I never said such a thing. Don't put things like that into my mouth. I'm not claiming today's populace of Turkey is accountable for the Armenian Genocide, but they sure as Hell support it, if even subtly. THAT is what the crux of my post above was. I can't blame them for what their grandfathers and great grandfathers have done, but I CAN if they "cheer" for such past actions.
I still remember a poll that was conducted in Turkey around 2012 (don't quote me on that, my memory is fuzzy as for the exact details such as the date) showed that three fourths of the people there consider Ataturk a hero of the country for "removing the Armenian threat". Now, focus on the last sentence - they worship that person not only for "modernising" Turkey, but for actually brutally murdering a whole ethnic group.
The latter part of my previous post was that they aren't alone in that. EVERY country has those kind of people, but in some, like Turkey - as taken in the example, they are figuratively covering their own feces and primal instincts with social facades, and that Minecraft scandal is merely one of many.
All hail our great Lord Niggercum! Fuck the whites, throw off the shackles of oppression and conquer the world!Choofers wrote:
you're preaching a bunch of uneducated white people
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What thing? I said a few things in there so it's hard to pin that down.Aurani wrote:
I never said such a thing. Don't put things like that into my mouth.
I'm not claiming today's populace of Turkey is accountable for the Armenian Genocide,I didn't really say that either, but you cleared up your point a whole lot thanks to that.
but they sure as Hell support it, if even subtly.You sure about that?
THAT is what the crux of my post above was. I can't blame them for what their grandfathers and great grandfathers have done, but I CAN if they "cheer" for such past actions.Fair enough
I still remember a poll that was conducted in Turkey around 2012 (don't quote me on that, my memory is fuzzy as for the exact details such as the date) showed that three fourths of the people there consider Ataturk a hero of the country for "removing the Armenian threat". Now, focus on the last sentence - they worship that person not only for "modernising" Turkey, but for actually brutally murdering a whole ethnic group.Yes, and I'm sure people affirm Lincoln ended slavery knowing full well all the details behind the Civil War. You see, if I was in charge of propaganda and nationalism was my thing, I'd know full well those numbers could easily be bullshit. That's statistics. Now, if you told me that you know a bunch of Turkish people and that their character lines up pretty well with what you've described me, I'd buy it.
Usually I don't buy into blanket statements like that because I've seen statistics and they're far too easy to manipulate. Only reason why I'd believe someone if they told me that all Argentinians are assholes is because, well, all Argentinians I've had the pleasure to speak to face to face have been assholes. In other words, an anecdote would be better than a poll.
You see Nancy, I'm not going to judge a whole bunch of people even if they did support Ataturk the Mass Murderer because I doubt most of them even see him the way you do. I know what it's like to sit in a history class and have your teacher ramble on about how justice was always on your country's side while holding back those little bits about who threw the first punch because it was "total chaos" or "there were no witnesses."
Unless you could prove that they all do indeed hate Armenia and support Turkleton knowing full well what he did.
The latter part of my previous post was that they aren't alone in that. EVERY country has those kind of people, but in some, like Turkey - as taken in the example, they are figuratively covering their own feces and primal instincts with social facades, and that Minecraft scandal is merely one of many.I can see that odd logic there but that only holds if the same nationalists were the ones banning video games.
It's like India banning porn. I doubt it's the general populace's choice because every Indian I've talked to complains to me about how even showing a woman's neck is too risque over there.
Woah, the fuck?Frostei wrote:
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Woah, the fuck?
I never knew you were that COLD, Frostei.
That is like literally saying that you need proof that most North Americans dislike Russians, or that Serbs dislike Balkan kebab.Brian OA wrote:
You see Nancy, I'm not going to judge a whole bunch of people even if they did support Ataturk the Mass Murderer because I doubt most of them even see him the way you do. I know what it's like to sit in a history class and have your teacher ramble on about how justice was always on your country's side while holding back those little bits about who threw the first punch because it was "total chaos" or "there were no witnesses."
Unless you could prove that they all do indeed hate Armenia and support Turkleton knowing full well what he did.
Yes, there will always be people who don't really give two shits about such affairs, but those are a serious minority. Propaganda, after all, works wonders, as you've stated too.
I have no idea why you spouted that out, as you should know better. Claiming to need proof for something just because you haven't experienced it first hand is swinging heavily to the ignorant side. If you need proof THAT badly - every common Turk (tourist) I've seen pass through Serbia has either caused unrest or claimed to heavily dislike all Orthodox people (I wonder why). I don't need any more proof than that.
If you can claim oh-so-lovely that every Argentinian you've met so far has been a dick, and thus concluded that they're mostly dicks, I can also safely use it and say that every single Turk but ONE (he is actually quite a nice friend of mine) I've met has behaved like a total asshole and held rather imperialistic beliefs for his country - and I've personally met more than just a few. Now, don't misunderstand me, I give zero shits about someone's wet dream of the great Ottoman Empire, but I DO give a shit if they hate someone based on such a thing as religion.
I'm really not going to go into an argument of subjective thoughts, as you have yours and I have mine, so I'm dropping out of this discussion, after this post.
You do that one more time, I'll fucking rip your guts outTrash Boat wrote:
I never knew you were that COLD, Frostei.
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Don't forget to fuck them. You can't bear my children if you don't wish to rape Boat.AutoMedic wrote:
You do that one more time, I'll fucking rip your guts out
Deal breaker.Aurani wrote:
You can't bear my children if you don't wish to rape Boat.AutoMedic wrote:
You do that one more time, I'll fucking rip your guts out
All of this sodomistic speech is absolutely disgusting.
lol o-o
Speak for yourself.B1rd wrote:
All of this sodomistic speech is absolutely disgusting.
What a lovely butt you have there - it would be a shame if someone were to sodomize it.B1rd wrote:
All of this sodomistic speech is absolutely disgusting.
Confirmed rule of thumb: Sarcasm and jokes(even good ones) are raepable
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kuvster a rank 22k player got a 430pp play because loltouchscreen
and tom94 is defending him on his ask.fm because "it was hard"
newsflash
its not supposed to be 'hard' for a rank 22k player to get a 400pp score
its not
supposed
to be
possible
but its ok because tom94 knows how hard a touchscreen is to play with, so what if the score is impossible even for tablet/mouse players 100x better than kuvster
of course i realize theres nothing to be done about it because he probably didnt hack, just venting
and tom94 is defending him on his ask.fm because "it was hard"
newsflash
its not supposed to be 'hard' for a rank 22k player to get a 400pp score
its not
supposed
to be
possible
but its ok because tom94 knows how hard a touchscreen is to play with, so what if the score is impossible even for tablet/mouse players 100x better than kuvster
of course i realize theres nothing to be done about it because he probably didnt hack, just venting
IppE
Riince wrote:
kuvster a rank 22k player got a 430pp play because loltouchscreen
and tom94 is defending him on his ask.fm because "it was hard"
newsflash
its not supposed to be 'hard' for a rank 22k player to get a 400pp score
its not
supposed
to be
possible
but its ok because tom94 knows how hard a touchscreen is to play with, so what if the score is impossible even for tablet/mouse players 100x better than him
of course i realize theres nothing to be done about it because he probably didnt hack, just venting
We should just ban those abusive touchscreen players forever
Diamondsolivia272 wrote:
Do you know what else is >hard<?
But werent TAG4 maps "unranked" for the same reason? Talk about being a hypocryte...Riince wrote:
kuvster a rank 22k player got a 430pp play because loltouchscreen
and tom94 is defending him on his ask.fm because "it was hard"
newsflash
its not supposed to be 'hard' for a rank 22k player to get a 400pp score
its not
supposed
to be
possible
but its ok because tom94 knows how hard a touchscreen is to play with, so what if the score is impossible even for tablet/mouse players 100x better than kuvster
of course i realize theres nothing to be done about it because he probably didnt hack, just venting